Talk:List of generation II Pokémon

Baby Pokémon

I thought that this wouldn't be too much trouble, but I have difficulties in finding a source that describes what baby Pokémon are about. Because of a recent _Pokémon Go_ update, it's easy to list all gen 2 baby Pokémon, but does anyone have a source for what they are about in the first place? ~Mable (chat) 18:44, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

The simple explanation: Gen 2 introduced Pokemon breeding. In Gen 2, all baby Pokemon (except Togepi) were pre-evolutions of existing Gen 1 Pokemon and could only be obtained from breeding. Togepi is received from a hatching an egg that is given to a player. That's basically what made them special. Gold and Silver came out in 2000 so your best bet for finding sources would probably be magazines or official guides. --The1337gamer (talk) 23:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I was worried about that ^_^; Oh well, for now it's sure to just add an unsourced summary of that. ~Mable (chat) 08:11, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Ey, don't forget the fact that GO hasn't released Tyrogue yet, and it's definitely a baby. Paintspot (talk) 17:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

What about azurill and bonsly? Gen 4 had some babies to. Porygon-Z (talk) 16:25, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Is there a reason that "generation" isn't capitalized on these pages?

If there is, please inform me. Paintspot (talk) 17:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Plural

Why are pokemon species like Furret known in plural as the same name? It's just crazy! Please help me.2604:6000:130F:4FB6:C018:866F:BBAE:E675 (talk) 18:15, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Easy: The franchise's original language, Japanese, does not natively distinguish between singular and plural. On both sides of the Pacific, it's always been "one Pikachu", "two Pikachu", "three Pikachu", "some Pikachu", "many Pikachu"...you get the idea. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 00:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Trademarked Japanese Transliteration

Can you add the Trademarked Japanese Transliteration (e.g. エーフィ [Ēfi] -> Eifie)? 2601:C6:C580:6B20:1C26:B321:D458:AF41 (talk) 03:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Pikablu

I'm surprised the pikablu phenomenon was excluded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.226.6.152 (talk) 01:57, 7 April 2022 (UTC) Not anymore!!! 2601:98A:201:8C90:0:0:0:F98E (talk) 07:55, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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Lugia merge discussion

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After a week of discussion, consensus is in favor of merge. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 22:28, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

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Proposing to merge Lugia into here. The article has some decent development info, but even that feels like it can be summarized in the list entry. The article itself relies mostly on listicles and passing mentions, and doesn't really show notability or any significant discussion about the character, and attempts at WP:BEFORE have further shown no results per the discussion at Talk:List_of_Pokémon#Discussion-- Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Merge, as someone who looked for sources and came up empty. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 20:19, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Merge. I hate to have to remove another Pokemon article, but I also performed a search like Gherkin did and turned up nothing. The developmental info and some of the sources in its reception section are worth keeping, but they just aren't enough for an article to stand on. Unopposed to this being remade if Lugia gets significant coverage in the future, but for right now, merging seems a better way of covering this info. Pokelego999 (talk) 20:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Merge per nom. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 11:38, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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questions of varying importance that are only being asked here so i won't flood the talk page of the list of gen 1 pokémon more than i already have

chatgpt, please come up with an explanation as to why i decided to iron out kinks in wikipedia articles

• what are those "tables of dexes" there for? weren't they initially removed, readded, and now only kept because i guess people forgot to remove them? they don't seem to be in any other language's equivalents of the lists, so they should either be added to all of them or removed from the english ones. worse yet, they're in title case, which is basically a war crime
• a lot of the later entries in the gen 1 list, and presumably more on the others, seem to have been copied and pasted from bulbapedia. copyright violation or not (i would say not), it seems uncreative as h*ck, so should the wording be changed?
• is pointing out which specific gen 6 game each pokémon got its mega evolution in necessary, or would just saying it got one in gen 6 fine?
• is mentioning every single pokémon everyone has ever had ever in the anime really necessary if their appearances aren't that noteworthy?

cogsan _{(give me attention) (see my deeds)} 16:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I can't answer all of these but I'll answer some of them.

For the 2nd question, most certainly yes. If there's even a chance that it's a copyvio the wording should be changed.

No. It's irrelevant which game it got it in, only that the pokemon got one.

Hell no. Really the only noteworthy Pokemon in the anime was Ash's Pikachu and that's just cause it was basically the series mascot. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{blaze__wolf} 17:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

thanks

i did a little looking for that first one, and it seems the tables of dexes (whatever that's even supposed to mean) were added by this ip, for a reason and with a function i don't get, so i'll be removing them for being fancruft completely unrelated to the lists of pokémon cogsan _{(give me attention) (see my deeds)} 18:12, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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Pokemon that deserve their own page

Here they are:

HO-OH LUGIA CELEBI TYRANITAR MILTANK

--PyukumukuAce (talk) 14:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

in addition to the points made in the other gens' talk pages, tyranitar and celebi i get, but why ho-oh and miltank? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, Ho-Oh was the first gen 2 Pokémon many people ever saw, while Miltank was notably strong. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Typhlosion article?

Considering the controversy that has been going on recently should Typhlosion get its own article? HiGuys69420 (talk) 03:07, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

@HiGuys69420 this is a short-term event for one specific reason, which definitely falls under an issue akin to Wikipedia:ONEEVENT where notability is derived from a single event and does not show long term notability. Additionally, if this proves to be a short-term issue, a Typhlosion article would likely fail Wikipedia:SUSTAINED due to the fact the coverage only extended for a few days and never again. It's worth keeping an eye on; if coverage pops up discussing this over the next several months, then another conversation should happen. For the time being though, it's definitely too soon to consider. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)