Talk:Tafsir Ibn Kathir
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editThis is not right. Why would you allow the URL to a racist, anti-islamic site "http://www.kafirnation.com" as part of the external links. Makes me question the impartiality of Wiki.
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Requested move 7 October 2021
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Number 57 19:55, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Tafsir ibn Kathir → Tafsir Ibn Kathir – Capitalisation 2001:16A2:EA92:8103:ED05:C08C:E339:E54B (talk) 00:29, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:21, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- @2001:16A2:EA92:8103:ED05:C08C:E339:E54B: "ibn" in Arabic names means "son of" and often has lowercase 'i'. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:22, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Anthony Appleyard: You are right, but when a patronymic stands on its own (e.g. Ibn Kathir) the 'i' is usually upper case. In this case it is the name of a tafsir, that is, the "Ibn Kathir tafsir". So I think the move makes sense here. Srnec (talk) 04:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Islam has been notified of this discussion. VR talk 20:32, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Srnec:I agree it should be changed to Ibn. Every other tafsir written by someone named “Ibn Something” capitalizes “Ibn”. Keeping it lower-case gives the impression this could be a person named Tafsir the son of Kathir, haha. --Zaynab1418 (talk) 04:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Proposing Deletion
editI put a lot of work a few months ago into editing this page. Since then, it has basically only gotten worse. The page has been repeatedly targeted by anonymous editors unfamiliar with the Wiki rules who add masses of unsourced information in broken English, arbitrarily change the transliteration and capitalization, and generally make the article more difficult to read and less in-line with Wikipedia standards. This was the issue in the first place before I edited it a few months ago. If we removed the unsourced information and personal research, 90% of this article would be gone. The article right now is poorly written and full of unsourced information and personal research. A section on the page Ibn Kathir adequately covers his tafsir and is much better written than this page. I suggest we just add the image of the tafsir and the cited information about the translation to his biography and delete this page. We don't need two articles on the same thing but one is terrible. The tafsir can be covered on his biography.
This page has seen many different iterations and been constantly rewritten with virtually all of them being horrendous quality -- broken English, advertising, sectarianism, personal research, lacking citations, plagiarism, egregious non-neutrality, incoherent writing, poor formatting, non-sensical transliteration, endless vandalism and blanking, etc.
I don't think there has been a single time this page met Wikipedia standards and when these issues were removed all that remained was a sentence or so. Out of four citations, one is a random webpage entirely in Arabic and one is a link to a bookstore.