Talk:Torna atrás

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ethnic groups, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles relating to ethnic groups, nationalities, and other cultural identities on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Ethnic groupsWikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groupsTemplate:WikiProject Ethnic groupsEthnic groups articles

???

This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Ethnic groups open tasks:

Here are some open WikiProject Ethnic groups tasks:

Meta-tasks:
- Place the {{Ethnic groups}} template on the talk page of articles within the scope of this project.
- Resolve the disparity in importance rankings among different ethnic groups
Articles about ethnic groups that currently have issues needing resolution:
Start an article:
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Article requests

Feel free to edit this list or discuss these tasks.

Spain

	Spain portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spain, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Spain on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SpainWikipedia:WikiProject SpainTemplate:WikiProject SpainSpain articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Tambayan Philippines Mid‑importance

	Philippines portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Tambayan Philippines, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to the Philippines on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Tambayan PhilippinesWikipedia:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesTemplate:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesPhilippine-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

Outdated term

I am removing this article from categories of present-day ethnic classifications, just as has been done with other outdated ethnic terms such as Negro. As the opening paragraph itself states, tornatras is a term that has long fallen into disuse. For that same reason, I am removing the list of people who would have been classified as Tornatrás should the Philippines still have been a part of the Spanish empire.

Usually a different meaning in Spanish

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Just a comment: This term, "tornatras", has a different meaning in Spanish. Perhaps in Philippines you had change the original meaning.

In Spanish, "tornatrás" means usually http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltGUIBusUsual?LEMA=tornatr%C3%A1s a person of very mixed racial origin, that shows very clearly the racial characters of just one ot their racial antecessors. For example, a very mixed descendant of white and black, whose characters are of a pure black person.

But in the dictionary also appears "tornatrás" used in Mexico with a very particular meaning, I suppose they applied the word to a different meaning, as you did in Philippines. In Mexico "tornatrás" is the descendant of:

european + black = mulato

european + mulato = morisco

european + morisco = albino

european + albino =tornatras

So, in Mexico a "tornatras" would be a person with all european antecessors, but a black great-great-grandfather. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.104.217 (talk) 12:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Add topic