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SignpostSMB name change to Jacco de Bruijn

Hello,

Thanks for responding to my name change request. I am comfortable with the implications associated with using a real name.

Thanks again,

Jacco SignpostSMB (talk) 15:14, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—July and August 2014

The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.

Dialog boxes in VisualEditor have been re-designed to use action words instead of icons. This has increased the number of items that need to be translated. The user guide is also being updated.

The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.

• Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
• You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
• All references and footnotes (<ref> tags) are now made through the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, including the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "Insert" menu. The "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-referencelist-tooltip⧽" is still added via the "Insert" menu.
• When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
• All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
• The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
• The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.

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The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.

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Physical Therapy Page Edit

Hello,

I wanted to enquire why you have reverted my updates to the 'External Links' section on 'Physical Therapy' page? The links placed are relative and provide direct information for the Governing body of Chartered Physiotherapists, Find a qualified Physiotherapist and the National Health Service for Physiotherapy. Can you please let me know what the issue is with that info?

Kind Regards, John — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheProWriter (talk • contribs) 13:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

@TheProWriter: The issue is that I believed the external links to be a matter of link spam - basically when a mass amount of often unrelated or promotional links are added to an article. I do believe one of the links probably didn't belong there, I believe the "Find a Physiotherapist" one, since Wikipedia isn't the yellow or white pages. The links also appeared to be focused on a single country/region and didn't represent a worldwide view of the subject. If you're citing a piece of information in the article, consider using the <ref></ref> tags instead. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 13:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I have also tried to update the title to a cap 'T' but it has not worked. Can you please help with this?

--TheProWriter (talk) 13:56, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

@TheProWriter: No, per WP:MOS, page titles must begin with a capital and then remain lowercase throughout unless it is specifically written that way, for example, eBay. The first letter of a capital is always capitalized, as it's a technical feature in the MediaWiki software that runs Wikipedia. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 14:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

The Plague, by Albert Camus

A section of the article describes how the novel is an allegory of occupied France and offers no alternative view. It is, therefore, an article that lacks balance. I have tried to redress this by including an opening paragraph to the section offering the alternative view of the novel, but you have deleted the edits on demand of a citation. The allegorical nature of the novel, if it exists, is of a secondary nature, and the article needs to acknowledge Camus' insistence that the novel carry his metaphysical ideas of the absurd as the central, driving force of the work. The section in the article on allegory suggests that the work was not art but contrived artifice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:C800:4101:CB01:2C02:CB50:AF5:E04A (talk) 13:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

The incorrect response would be to add awkward commentary above the paragraph, or blank and remove the entire paragraph to replace it with a sentence saying it was completely wrong. Consider raising the issue on the talk page, and then slowly working the issue out with other editors. It may take some time, but the end result builds consensus. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 14:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I have made a comment on the talk page for the article, and note that it is the first to have been made for four years. It will be interesting to see whether, after all this time, one of the other editors of the page gets back to me. If not, then what to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:C800:4101:CB01:2C02:CB50:AF5:E04A (talk) 14:32, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

The article is covered by 4 WikiProjects - you might want to leave a note on each WikiProject's talk page to get attention - [1][2][3][4] --k6ka (talk | contribs) 14:47, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014

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Associated Act question

K6ka,

Hi, I am a new member to Wikipedia and I saw your message that I could contact you. I was wondering what qualifies as an associated act for musician pages. I added an associated act to rapper Big Sean's page twice now and she has been removed both times. Thanks.

Frank Wiki Editor 77 (talk) 01:28, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello. I'm not exactly sure what qualifies either, so I would probably recommend that you bring your question over to the Teahouse, where there will most definitely be someone there who knows the answer to your question. Thanks! --k6ka (talk | contribs) 02:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response and I appreciate your help. I'll be sure to check out the Teahouse.

Frank Wiki Editor 77 (talk) 03:09, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the blanked page

Hey man, I appreciate you reverting the vandalism on Fmlybnd yesterday. That guy is persistent in removing key details about the band and I suspect he's in it. Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for keeping an eye out.Ha-ha! You'll know when I've left once I've been here. (talk) 05:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

No problem! I enjoy reverting vandalism on Wikipedia, so I am glad to be of assistance. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 21:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my mistake

Hi K6ka, I really don't know what happened there but I undid that action. Terrible. Thanks for reverting it too. Stanleytux (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Untitled

hello there just a quick message sorry about the v chip comment just couldn't believe you could actually change anything but the comment about the bee lady phone box is true she is fundraiser for cancer research check it out online ad since Hull has won the city of culture award it would be nice so see something about that on here people nee to know these things

yours sincerely

Mr Barlow-Fletcher — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.114.24 (talk) 22:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Please provide a citation for it. If it is true, then certainly you can provide me with a source for it. We can't accept original research or uncited additions on the biography of a living person. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 22:38, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Untitled 2

Hi,

I made a change to the TIKONA DIGITAL Page and i put the reference links below.

You can check... I will try to put the details back , but i am not sure how exactly you want me to reference it.

Talkback : tausifahmad_01

Thanks !! Tausif Ahmad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tausifahmad 01 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Templates and links

Just to let you know that I stole the 2 link shortcuts (1 is a template) and credited you. Please take a look at my new user page if you have time!

Cheers, Romtam^talk 00:51, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

@Romtam: No problem, glad to be of apparent service! --k6ka (talk | contribs) 01:00, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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mailto links

Regarding this edit summary...unless I'm misreading what you mean, all you have to do is click the "diamond" in the top right when you're logged in to gmail. That's the mail handler. Tarc (talk) 15:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

@Tarc: What I meant was how the "mailto" function was broken in Chrome. When you click on a mailto link in Chrome, nothing happens. I remember mailto links work in other browsers like Firefox and IE. Could be just me being dumb, or maybe I didn't set something correctly in the browser settings. Anyways, I still replaced the mailto links with {{nospam}} in an attempt (and precaution) against spambots reading the email address and then preparing to mass-send crappy emails for crappy products. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 15:07, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

That's what I was saying; it isn't broken, just off by default. :) I have no preference for what the links are on Jimbo's page, that's fine, but when you have a moment login to gmail via Chrome and look for the diamond icon in the upper right. I just tried it on mine a moment ago and once you enable it, it lets mailto: links be usable via Chrome. Tarc (talk) 15:23, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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Reflection (Fifth Harmony album)

I think we are fighting a computer. π♂101 (talk) 02:16, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

@Piguy101: I think we are. Still waiting for a sysop to respond to my WP:RFPP request. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 02:18, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Crisis averted! @Discospinster: What do you think was going on that page? It was crazy! π♂101 (talk) 02:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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Edits regarding Emily Menges Page

Hello this is Kyle Menges. I am the cousin of Emily Menges and I was trying to supply a more accurate background of her early life. However, Buffbills7701 prevented me from doing so. I am outraged! I am pretty sure I know my cousin better than he does. Therefore, I would like to post accurate information about my cousin on this site.108.41.105.240 (talk) 02:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)Kyle Menges

Your case is an example of original research, in which Wikipedia prohibits. Please cite a reliable source for all additions you make, especially on the biography of a living person. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 02:52, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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