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Kiss

Hi, I just wanted to drop you a short note as to why I reverted the recent edit that you made to Gene Simmons. Although the band normally spells Kiss in all caps, it is part of the Manual of Style to treat trademarks as words and not use all caps. This is explained in MoS:TM, Kiss is even one of the provided examples. Cheers, J04n(talk page) 00:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, changed it. J04n(talk page) 01:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

And yet you still did it. ViperSnake151  Talk  19:26, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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Criteria for Deletion

Dear Mistakefinder, to answer the question from my talk page, for Z-Chen I think the issue that lead people to think he's not notable is lack of coverage in English-language media. There are actually a whole mess of rules/standards on this stuff. See WP:GNG, WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:MUSICBIO and related pages. As for your concern about similar artists who have not been deleted, see also WP:OTHERSTUFF. A person's vote in these debates is supposed to be impartial and without prejudice, and I don't think everybody on Wikipedia behaves that way, but most do. So there's no hatred toward Z-Chen, hopefully, but people just concluded that he is not (yet) notable enough for Wikipedia. DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 16:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Maps

Please see response, in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps#China and Taiwan map in Cross Relations article.

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Local churches (affiliation)

Hey, I just wanted to explain that I undid your edit over at Local churches (affiliation) - I appreciate your desire to wikify things and to make sure there are informative links for people to jump to, but in this case, there were just too many links :) We try to pick our links carefully so that whatever *is* linked to is relevant to the article and will enhance the reader's understanding of it. If you want to read more about what is considered overlinking (along with policy on links in general), please click here. Thanks!

-- Joren (talk) 10:09, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

First sentence

Your approach has promise. For the moment, I'm going to change national flag to civil ensign, "under" to "in", and "is the business" to "describes the business". I have a feeling that "that registrant" and "sovereign state" could be polished. Cheers. Haus^Talk 18:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Colloquial usage of "country"

I invite you to provide a reliable source and/or discuss it further. Thanks. --Hm2k (talk) 01:06, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Two Chinas

Hi, your edits clearly state Two Chinas, this POV is contradicted by both the "One China" and the "One China, One Taiwan" POVs. T-1000 (talk) 01:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC) Anyone interested in this discussion, please go to the China discussion page. Mistakefinder (talk) 08:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Republic of Taiwan (false)

On 23-May, you tagged Republic of Taiwan (false) with {{rfd}}, but you did not complete the nomination by listing it at WP:RFD. Can you please complete the second step of the nomination per the instructions at the WP:RFD page? If you do not list it within a reasonable amount of time, I'll assume you no longer wish to see it deleted and will remove the template. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks JLaTondre. I've completed the RFD listing. Mistakefinder (talk) 08:01, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Taiwan, China

Hi, from here: [1], the convention states to "As a general rule of thumb, the official political terms "People's Republic of China" or "PRC" and "Republic of China" or "ROC" should be used in political contexts (that is, to describe the existing governments or regimes) rather than the imprecise and politically charged terms "China" and "Taiwan." For example, "Hu Jintao is the President of the People's Republic of China" is preferred over "Hu Jintao is the President of China." Likewise, one should write "one must be an ROC citizen to vote in the ROC presidential election" as opposed to "one must be a Taiwanese citizen to vote in the Taiwanese presidential election."" T-1000 (talk) 16:14, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikify?

Here, you linked the word 'fortnight' under the guise of "wikification'. The word has no salience to the subject of the article; all you are doing is supplying a potential dictionary definition. Please refer to WP:OVERLINK. Thanks for your attention. Cheers, --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 13:29, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

• • You're right. Thanks for the pointing to the guidelines. I'll revert it. I was thinking it wasn't a commonly used word (at least in the US). Perhaps it's much used in the British Commonwealth world? Mistakefinder (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Re Military occupation

That text is problematic for more reasons than its being unsourced. It is a total fringe position held by no one except some KMT extremists that China is under military occupation. (So I don't believe that you can find reliable sources saying that directly; otherwise I would have just slapped a {{citation needed}} tag on there) There's a better case to be made that Taiwan is under military occupation, since the world's governments basically recognize the PRC as the legitimate government of China and China's position on Taiwan, but making that argument is not my intention. Shrigley (talk) 22:48, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad you're no longer saying that Taiwan claims the mainland. However, you still don't have a source that says China considers Taiwan "occupied territory". Also, your last sentence about "Taiwanese [living] under long-term threat and fear of war" is still hyperbolic and not neutral. Shrigley (talk) 00:47, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't think such feelings are necessary to mention at all. The article is supposed to be about occupied territory, and it should only really discuss the legal aspect. Shrigley (talk) 01:03, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

The text looks good now! Merry Christmas to you too. Shrigley (talk) 20:44, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Why revert my edit of Taiwan?

• Post-recent-move, the article is now also about the island of Taiwan, so no hatnote is needed for it.
• I agree that normally using less generic hatnote templates would be preferable. However, the hatnotes need to include their reason for existence, which would make them repetitive in this case:

"Republic of China" redirects here. For other uses, see Republic of China (disambiguation).

"Republic of China" redirects here. Not to be confused with People's Republic of China.

Hence the combined generic {{hatnote}}, to avoid saying "Republic of China" redirects here twice. --Cybercobra (talk) 07:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, joining in because I've reverted your hatnote at Geography of Taiwan. The purpose of a hatnote is to help people who arrive at an article by mistake find the article they were really after. No-one is going to arrive at Geography of Taiwan when they're looking for the country (unless they've followed a misdirected link, in which case it's the link that needs fixing). Kanguole 08:23, 8 April 2012 (UTC) To Cybercobra and Kanguole,

• Is the island article being merged into the former ROC article? I didn't see the concensus on merge. Only saw that all island related entries [Island of Taiwan, Taiwan (island),etc.] redirected to Geography of Taiwan. So seems it's necessary to clarify it's on the Geog of Taiwan island, not Taiwan/ROC as a whole?

Cyber, I'll need to revert yours to restore my paragraph, then I'll keep your hatnote. Mistakefinder (talk) 08:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

WP:NAMB explains the issue. It's implausible that anyone looking for the country would go to "Geography of Taiwan", "Island of Taiwan" or "Taiwan (island)". Kanguole 09:08, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Taiwan (island) was indeed merged (by others) into Taiwan prior to being redirected to Geography of Taiwan. --Cybercobra (talk) 14:26, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Supreme Court

Regarding your addition to the lead in the Supreme Court of the United States: we used to have a mention of the SCOTUS abbreviation in the lead. After discussion it was decided to remove it. That's why I directed you to the archive. See also the more extensive discussion in the current talk page. First: you should not simply state that it is used "often" without references. Second: the press does not seem to use the abbreviation much, though it is somewhat common in Blogs aimed at professionals (but even such sites as SCOTUSBlog usually uses "The Court" when talking about it). Of the many things that the Supreme Court is called (e.g., "the High Court", "the Court", "the Supreme Court", "the Supremes") SCOTUS is just not that common outside a particularly narrow circle. I'm posting essentially this in the talk page, perhaps we can discuss it there. Magidin (talk) 03:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Coronary arteries WP:DABCONCEPT violation

Please note that disambiguating Coronary arteries appears to create a WP:DABCONCEPT violation. I would suggest restoring the previous redirect to Coronary circulation. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:11, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Taiwan

What is it, precisely, that you want to add that you don't feel is adequately covered by the previous version? The history section has a much more detailed and nuanced explanation of the issue, and we already spend one paragraph in the lead talking about it...

Consider replying with what you're trying to say in Chinese? :/ Aside from generally finding it unnecessary, I'm also confused by what you're trying to say with your new paragraph. Thanks. wctaiwan (talk) 12:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Division of China listed at Redirects for discussion

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Additions to dab pages

Hi there,

I was curious about the a couple of the edits you made to Waterloo; one was

• Waterloo, Belgium, location of the famous District battle

Though I appreciate that there are occasionally good reasons to go against the "one bluelink per line" and piping rules, I can't see that this is one of them; the battle is referenced elsewhere and I'm not sure what an obscured link to Napoleon Bonapart (rather than the battle itself) adds.

I also removed the link to "eponym" as the dab page isn't about that term and (IMHO) isn't something to be bluelinked.

I'm assuming that (as you've been around since 2009), you're probably familiar with the basic rules for disambiguation pages (and don't need a pointer to WP:MOSDAB!) Your other changes seemed sensible, so this is probably correct.

But I'd be interested to hear if there was a reason behind the changes mentioned above.

All the best, Ubcule (talk) 18:08, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. Ok I'm fine with your comment. I haven't actually fully reviewed MOSDAB so thanks for pointing it out. I'm not sure why you piped "District" for Napoleon and what that means, but your latest edit is fine. Thanks! Mistakefinder (talk) 08:30, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I'd definitely recommend that you read MOSDAB then; I can't claim to know every word of it myself, but it helps to know the main points. There's also a short summary of the basic rules displayed every time you edit a disambiguation page.

Regarding "I'm not sure why you piped "District" for Napoleon and what that means"... *I* didn't add it at all(!) The diff link shows that it was added by you, that's why I asked you about it(!!)

Weird! I guess it may have been on my paste clipboard by accident... thanks. Mistakefinder (talk) 20:24, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

All the best, Ubcule (talk) 18:38, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks. Addressed. Mistakefinder (talk) 22:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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This is a mess and needs deleting. You've been advised to read WP:MOSDAB before. Did you? Here's some links. Although you may mean well, this may be perceived as disruptive editing or not listening to other editors despite clear violations of several guidelines / policies. Widefox; talk 08:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I replied to you talk page. Please feel free to fix. I will try to get to it these few days. If it's unfixable and inappropriate, then perhaps deleting is OK. However, you didn't answer my question about China (disambiguation), where many entries within it appears to be what you call WP:PTM. Perhaps entries there need to be edited too? Mistakefinder (talk) 22:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I did reply - see Talk:Transbay. Widefox; talk 23:09, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Suruç

Shouldn't the word be pronounced like /suɾutʃ/, not [sɪŋt͡ʃi] which suggests a Turkish spelling of Singçi ? --Mahmudmasri (talk) 14:31, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

That's how it sounds like here, so is the recording wrong? Mistakefinder (talk) 16:17, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I added the stress mark. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 16:29, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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The appearance of advocacy

After having checked and found that only 105 main space articles reference Singular they, I was going to explain and then revert your change to Ankara train collision. But I see now that someone else has changed to a less awkward construction.

As someone who favors the singular 'they', rather than impose a pronoun on someone, I have no problem with the usage. However, in forcing the insertion of the explanatory link, it comes across as advocacy - or imposition - of the singular they. Simply by calling attention to this usage, this one word, in an article otherwise about a tragedy.

It would be similar to linking word succumbed. That would be calling attention to a particular word, but that in no way helps explain the subject of the article. Certainly doing so in the lede is a distraction. But anyway, the same later edit simplified that to 'died'. Shenme (talk) 03:59, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Eswatini

Hi Mistakefinder, thanks for your edit to Eswatini. I'm afraid you'll find that it will soon be reverted, if it hasn't been already, as there are a couple of editors there who are repeatedly reverting similar changes that have been made by numerous other editors. Just wanted to let you know that I agree with your edit. There's discussion, in case you're interested, at Talk:Eswatini#"formerly known as Swaziland", as well as some overlapping comments in Talk:Eswatini#Replacing mentions of "Swaziland" with "Eswatini" in all articles. The reason given in the edit summaries for the reverts is usually "discussed ad nauseum" or similar. It's true there has been a lot of discussion, but unless the discussion leads to consensus, which I don't think it has, that's not a valid reason... --IamNotU (talk) 11:00, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing me to the discussion. Mistakefinder (talk) 10:37, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

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For the time being I have moved it to Draft:GOOD TV. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:25, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

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Political status of Taiwan --> Recognition of Taiwan as part of the PRC

You are absolutely correct. The majority of countries do not explicitly recognise Taiwan as part of the PRC. The way it actually works is that the PRC claims that Taiwan is part of China, and then none of the PRC's allies (anyone who recognises the PRC) are allowed to protest against this (aside from some of the great powers) out of fear of offending China and suffering from economic sanctions imposed by China. In fact, few countries explicitly recognise Taiwan as part of the PRC, despite the fact that they recognise the PRC in favour of the ROC, because they still want to do business with Taiwan under the table, and recognising Taiwan as part of the PRC will probably result in economic sanctions from Taiwan and the severance of unofficial diplomatic relations. The thing is, although Taiwan is a lot smaller than the PRC in terms of geography, population, economy, etc., Taiwan is still a very important member of the international community regarding culture, society, diplomacy, trade, industry, etc. Cutting off all ties to Taiwan (whether official or unofficial) is not in anyone's interests. The only countries that are willing to do this are tiny and/or poor countries such as the Solomon Islands since they can survive purely on whatever China (PRC) is willing to hand out to them for free (in exchange for recognising the PRC over the ROC). Jargo Nautilus (talk) 04:08, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Translation request Isabelle de Charrière

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