Ryuch

Hello Cheol, welcome to Wikipedia. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian. You can learn more on the how to edit page. The naming conventions and style guide pages are also useful. There is a sandbox which you can use to experiment in. If you have any questions, see the help pages or add a question to the village pump. Angela

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반갑습니다. soax 05:52, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

하나하나 배워가고 있습니다. 많이 도와주세요. Ryuch 14:21, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Hi, where did you get Image:Baekjebronzecenser.jpg? If it is copyrighted, please listed list it on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion, because we cannot take others' copyrighted material here. Thank you. --Menchi 04:27, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I got it from Buyeo Museum website, I requested the permission to use. If they do not grant, I will list it on the list. Thanks. Ryuch

I just created wikipedia:images for deletion and moved your image there. Martin 21:52, 20 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Please explain your removal of the sentence relating to 日本海/東海 in the article South Korea. 感射합니다. --Ce garcon 04:51, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I answered at Talk:South_Korea. Thank you. -- Ryuch 05:33, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

King names

Hi, Ryuch. Thanks a lot for all the work you've been doing, especially on Baekje.  :-)

As far as the king names go, I think you're basically right: simpler is better. I've just been following the standards at Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Korean), which were put up by User:Sewing. These standards state that the format should be King X of Y, where X is the ruler's name and Y is the kingdom's name. There hasn't been any discussion of these conventions that I can find.

The current Korean standards do follow Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(monarchs)#Monarchical_titles, which say that we should "pre-emptively disambiguate" the monarch's name by adding the name of the country. This makes sense in Europe, where you have King Charles of Spain, King Charles of England, etc. etc. But as you say, it isn't really necessary in the Korean context, where only a few names (Taejo, Taejong) have been held by more than one person.

I think we could make this change. Here's what I reckon we should do: 1. Start a discussion in Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean), to make sure there are no objections. Also mention it on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (monarchs) 2. If there are no objections, change the text of Naming conventions (Korean). 3. Move all of the articles to their new names (and change their text also). There are currently about 40 articles that would need to move. 4. Change all of the links in Rulers of Korea to the new format, so that anyone who adds a new article will give it the correct name. ... That's a lot of work, but can be done pretty quickly after step 1 (give it a week or two).

I'll go do step 1 shortly. As you say, simpler is better.

Cheers, and thanks again for your hard work! -- Visviva 03:46, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

WikiProject South Korean counties and cities

Hi again, Ryuch! Thanks again for your contributions. If you have time, perhaps you would like to help out with Wikipedia:WikiProject South Korean counties and cities. It's an initiative with the goal of massively improving our coverage of South Korean geography. Feel free to discuss or change anything on the project page, too, it's still rather unfinished. Cheers! -- Visviva 04:51, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Unverified image

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I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the image and I'll tag it for you. Thanks, Kbh3rd 05:14, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Need Help

Hi there, I need help, I just overhauled the Hanjin page, but I can't fix the little table on the right because I do not know what goes there. Can you fill it in correctly? WikiDon 08:21, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Notice board

Hello again Ryuch! I haven't seen you around much lately. I hope you're doing OK. Anyway, I'm posting here to let you know that there is now a notice board for Korea-related topics. This board is a central place to discuss all matters pertaining to Wikipedia's coverage of Coreana. I hope you'll drop by and help the board to take shape. -- Visviva 15:01, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Starting this July, we will work to get one article as close to featured article status as possible. Please please please please please help! Below is the information message for this collaboration. Feel free to post it on your user page. Cheers! -- Visviva 06:42, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The current collaboration of the month for WikiProject South Korean counties and cities is Gyeongju. Please help bring it up to Featured Article standard.

Another one!

Dear Korean notice board member,

Starting this July, we will work to get one article as close to featured article status as possible. Please please please please please help! Below is the information message for this collaboration. Feel free to post it on your user page. Cheers! -- Visviva 06:42, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Sea of Japan/East Sea

Hello! Currently, there is a vote over the name of Sea of Japan/East Sea in Korean contexts. If you are interested in voting, please go here. Kokiri 12:32, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Hello again from WPSKCC

Hello Mr Cheol,

Please drop by the Nominations section of the WikiProject notice board (here) and vote or nominate your favorite town. I have gotten us started by nominating three counties and cities from the southwest, in the spirit of countering systemic bias. -- Visviva 13:23, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Karasuk culture

A Blast from the Past. Are you agreed? Do you have better sources? --FourthAve 02:45, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

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Your imjinwaeran article

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Hi

I put the image of the Baekje incense burner [1] for a speedy deletion. I did this because even if permission was given by the museum there isn't any proof of that permission and the image has a fair use rationale. This image: [2] has a creative commons license. I hope this is okay with you. Thanks for your time. Tortfeasor 07:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I visited Booyeo National Museum and got the permission to use in Wikipedia. You could checkt it by asking to the museum. No problem to use in Wikipedia! But, if you have better image which has good quality image of the burner you could replace. You don't need to delete [3] - Ryuch

R: Thanks for the reponse. I don't mean to step on any toes. If you want to remove the tag, that is cool with me. I figured that since we have a better licensed image we could remove the duplicate. Thanks for your time. Tortfeasor 21:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

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Korean name review

Hi, the article Korean name is undergoing a Featured Article Review right now. As far as I can tell, it's the only Korea-related Featured Article, and I doubt it can survive the way it is now. I noticed you worked on this article before, so I hope you can help now, and maybe continue on to make one or two more Korea-related Featured Articles eventually. Maybe you can contact others who may be interested, since it's not getting much attention right now. Thanks. Chuniac (talk) 18:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Why do you create the task force without discussion?

Suppose that Takeshima/Sea of Japan task force is created after people find your creation of Dokdo/East Sea taskforce? Wikipedia is not a place for political agenda even though the recent news regarding Japanese textbook controversy is a motivation for you to do this. However, as far as I've known, you have NOT participated in the past naming disputes or votes, so I'm wondering why you unilaterally decided to create the task force? I believe this is required for pre-discussion with members. --Caspian blue (talk) 10:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Requested move

Cheol -- You may not have noticed that I relisted the projected move of Eulsa Treaty at WP:Requested moves#Current discussions/August 31. It is only prudent for me to alert all contributors in our discussion about changing the name of this article.

Please consider Talk:Eulsa Treaty#Relisting at WP:Requested moves.

On one hand, this can be construed as an unnecessary delay. On the other hand, this ensures the possibility of wider community input which may bring out any points-of-view which remain unstated or glossed over. --Tenmei (talk) 17:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Mediation

I sought assistance here — Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2010-10-04/Eulsa Treaty. I do not know what happens next. --Tenmei (talk) 21:13, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Summarizing the so-called discussion which began at Talk:Eulsa Treaty in early August here:

A. In an attempt to help us start discussion, options were proposed here and refined here.

1. Leave it at its current name?
2. To Japan-Korea Protectorate Treaty?
3. To Japan-Korea Treaty of 1905?
4. To 1905 Protectorate Treaty?
5. Or what?; see the second paragraph of page Eulsa Treaty.

B. Valentim presented the results of a Lexis/Nexis search here. This supplements several Google searches.

In the many weeks of so-called discussion thread development, those opposing the move have either been unwilling or unable to present refutation or counterargument; and therefore, I propose we delay no longer.

In other words, I suggest that there is a consensus to act now on the basis of the Lexis-Nexis search outcome. The time has come for this article to be renamed Japan-Korea Treaty of 1905. --Tenmei (talk) 19:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Wahyudi

Hello this is Wahyudi from Wiki id ^_^ I also made some short Korea-related articles here. Regards 02Wahyudi (talk) 08:35, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Wahyudi. I will have a look. Happy editing! --Cheol (talk) 06:11, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

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Signpost

Hi Ryuch,

I found the slides of your recent presentation about the Korean Wikipedia quite illuminating. Would you be interested in making them into a "Sister project report" for the Signpost? This is an irregular series that presents the basics of a Wikimedia project, its history, characteristics, successes and issues, and current (longer term importance) developments. Considering the Signpost audience (English Wikipedians and other Wikimedians), one can be brief about basics that are similar to other Wikipedias, but assume some interest for peculiarities that are unique to the project.

(You may have noticed that we ran a story concerning the Korean Wikipedia not long ago - based on a Foundation-l posting by PuzzletChung -, which appears to have gone down quite well with readers. But Sister project reports are intended to take up an entire section and have a larger scope, encompassing the whole project instead of one particular news item.)

If you are interested in presenting your project in such a Signpost report, one way to start would be to begin a draft in your user space. As you may know, the Signpost is published on Mondays. It should be sufficient to have a rough version of the story ready by Sunday early afternoon (UTC) before the intended publication date, to allow for subsequent (copy-)editing.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:56, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello, HaeB! Thank you for the attention. It's great to publish about Korean Wikipedia on Signpost. I will start to draft a article but I'm not sure I can make it ready for next issue. You mentioned Sister project reports but I am not sure the coverage of Signpost. If it covers only English Wikipedia, you are right it's a Sister project. If it covers entire Wikipedia projects, it's not a Sister. What do you think? --Cheol (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Great, looking forward to it! Yes, it doesn't need to be ready for the next (March 21) issue - one of the following weeks is fine too. It's just important to leave some time for refining and editing before the intended publication date.

The name "Sister project report" is indeed somewhat a leftover from the time when the Signpost was exclusively covering the English Wikipedia only. In a discussion last year there was consensus to widen the scope to all Wikimedia matters (that's when it was renamed from "Wikipedia Signpost" to "Signpost", to indicate that reporting about Commons and other non-Wikipedia Wikimedia projects is welcome too). But so far we kept the name, also since some sections ("Features and admins", "Arbitration report") still focus on the English Wikipedia.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 19:03, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

How about aiming for publication in the upcoming April 11 issue? I'll be happy to look over a draft or make suggestions. If you are on IRC, you can usually find us in the #wikisignpost channel on Freenode ([4],Webchat). Regards, HaeB (talk) 19:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, too late. I lost your proposal already. But I have a news. On coming Saturday, Korean Wikimedian would gather to discuss founding a local chapter in Korea. After that meeting I will post a draft to be published on Signpost. --Cheol (talk) 07:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Liancourt Rocks

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Infobox Korean Film

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안녕하세요

안녕하세요! I'm sorry to write to you like this but I saw your entry at the Wikimania attendees list and I am so happy that finally I see at least one person from Korea attending the conference, as I am learning Korean :)) I also saw your slides about kowiki and I think there are a lot of similarities between our Hungarian Wikipedia and kowiki, in terms of nature and behaviour of editors. Hope to meet you in Hong Kong, I hope we will have some time to chat! Kind regards, Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 15:05, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Teemeah. Nice to hear you are coming to Hong Kong. I hope I could meet Wikipedia editor friends from all over the world. It's unusual for me to meet a Hungarian who can speak Korean. See you soon in Hong Kong. --Cheol (talk) 10:11, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you, Tim. It required me a few more steps to use the Tools server. Sorry to bother you, but you gave the information exactly what I wanted to know. My tool was migrated to tools-login, but still I am not sure it is the right server. --Cheol (talk) 04:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Re

Annyeonghaseyo, Cheol-ssi! Thank you for your message. I just arrived back home :) I'm glad we could meet at Wikimania. :) By the way, I was thinking about nominating Heritage preservation in South Korea for FA or GA, what do you think? Kamsahamnida :) Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 14:34, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Nice to hear your safe travel. The article looks good for me. I would like to add some text if I can afford some time. Good luck. ----Cheol (talk) 01:04, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

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FYI

I reverted your pointy edits to the [[Chinese influence on Korean culture article. There is currently a discussion of he MOS in question, and your view is clearly the minority one. But even if this was not the case, you should still not have altered a direct quotation. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 07:34, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

That's not related. Someone are debating or not. --Cheol (talk) 17:59, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

I pointed out to you an example of an article that ran against the current wording, but in accordance with the previous RFC and the current discussion's general consensus. You went to the page and radically altered the romanization system in use solely in order to make a point about the discussion we were having on the MOS talk page, and in the process you mangled a direct quotation.

Do you understand why this is inappropriate? If not, I will have to consider requesting that you be blocked from editing, as changing direct quotations to conform to (your interpretation of) Wikipedia's MOS, without indicating that the quote was altered, is unacceptable.

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Dead Secret

Hey Ryuch, I am creating the video game Dead Secret under Dead Secret over the weekend and have changed your link from Dead Secret to Dead Secret (Novel) on User:Ryuch/famous books I hope you don't mind. Let me know if that is ok? D Eaketts (talk) 11:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

That looks good. But I don't remember why the list is under mine. --Cheol (talk) 11:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, Strange how you don't recall that page. Anyway I will carry on with it, Hope you figure out what Wikipedian created that list? D Eaketts (talk) 11:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Maybe, me. But I don't remember how I induced the list. I think I did some queries against the database on a machine of WMF Labs, but I lost the script. --Cheol (talk) 06:44, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Dasan Machineries Company

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Dasan Machineries Company for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:02, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

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