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editThanks for closing. Regarding the consensus to merge, I wonder if you saw this discussion? — xDanielx T/C\R 22:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I wasn't aware of that discussion. I have now amended my close and liked the previous merge discussion. Vpab15 (talk) 22:40, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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Would you please elaborate on how you have assessed the consensus here. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:06, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, most editors opposed the move (9 vs 3 supporters) and per ngrams, most sources use uppercase. Vpab15 (talk) 07:44, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Consensus is WP:NOTAVOTE and the threshold for capitalisation per MOS:CAPS is not most but a substantial majority? Cinderella157 (talk) 09:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but MOS:CAPS doesn't define what "a substantial majority" is, so it is up to editors to reach a consensus. In this case, the clear consensus is that uppercase should be used. Vpab15 (talk) 09:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- My recollection is that only two editor discuss what a substantial majority is quantitatively. One who opposes states that this should not be above 90% and that we should consider the most recent figure|s. The other considers the most recent figure|s and that it falls short of 70%. The burden per MOS:CAPS is to show that caps are necessary. Most comments do not engage in any meaningful way and many make spurious other stuff comments. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but MOS:CAPS doesn't define what "a substantial majority" is, so it is up to editors to reach a consensus. In this case, the clear consensus is that uppercase should be used. Vpab15 (talk) 09:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Consensus is WP:NOTAVOTE and the threshold for capitalisation per MOS:CAPS is not most but a substantial majority? Cinderella157 (talk) 09:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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editDear Vpab, Thank you for your reply to my 'talk' entry on the Public Schools (United Kingdom) page and for your work on suggesting/effecting a move/change to Public Schools (England). I can see you did quite a lot of groundwork in starting the process and inviting discussion - I'm relatively new to editing on WP, and I happily admit I'm utterly bamboozled by the technical aspects of the project. I'm still trying my best to get my head around the 'view history' tab and figuring out who made or when/why they made various edits. I'm still at the stage of randomly clicking different 'prev'/'curr' radio buttons to try to figure out who did (or undid!) what, when and why.
I'm rather prone to verbosity, and I happily take the time to state the details of any edits I've made and my rationale, in the 'reasons for edit' box. I find rather too often that other editors don't extend the same courtesy and I find it frustrating trying to figure out who did what and why. Perhaps it's a strategy by some folk to edit/revert things by stealth. It's no secret that a lot of people do not like change.
From what I see (and I get really bored and frustrated trying to figure these things out) someone put some degree of Kibosh on your suggested move (or rename) for this article. Unfortunately I have this feeling that the continuing use of the term 'public school' to mean an English private school is part & parcel of the elitist culture around such establishments.
But whatever the absurd-rationale for using one word to mean its polar opposite, the fact that only in England are private schools called public schools means that the title "Public Schools (United Kingdom)" is invalid.
I'll keep my eye on this and hopefully the work you've done can be brought to fruition.
thanks again,
F (I've no idea how to spell my user name in full) Flusapochterasumesch (talk) 22:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Flusapochterasumesch No worries, feel free to participate in the move discussion and express your opinion (supporting the move I assume).
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- PS. Regarding private schools in the UK, there is the general article Private schools in the United Kingdom. The article Public school (United Kingdom) just covers a narrow subset of the general article. Vpab15 (talk) 19:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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