Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dean Schneider

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Spartaz ^Humbug! 20:03, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Dean Schneider

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No clear evidence of significant notability, article has become source of significant BLP violating edit warring over alleged animal abuse. Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:19, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

• Request to withdraw. Since the deletion request has been made, the subject of the article and the animal abuse allegations have been covered in reliable english language sources: See Flanagan, Jane (2020-05-01). "Instagram's lion king Dean Schneider risks wrath of the pride by punching cub on video". The Times. ISSN 0140-0460. Archived from the original on 2020-05-01. Retrieved 2020-05-01. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:19, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 15:27, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 15:27, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

• Delete In favour of his fake narcissist Wikipedia he made using his Pr to be deleted, nothing is factual no proof of studying banking the only proof is a video of him punching a lion he hold captive. He has been trying to become famous for over 3 years, he made a way and that was by paying for self made publicity so that he could use lions wildlife that he holds in his garden captive for fans likes and donations — BettyLioness (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 15:50, 21 April 2020‎ (UTC).

  Your comment does not advance any valid reason for deletion. Additionally, it contains accusations (without evidence) against editors who have worked on this article, as well as the article subject himself. — Newslinger talk 05:00, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

• Delete Wikipedia is not LinkedIn. It should not be used for self-promotion. This is one reason why we need extra scrutiny of articles on living people. Considering yesterday I saw a nomination for an article that had existed 16 years I believe with no sources at all, I have grave doubts we have anywhere near enough oversight on articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:53, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
• Keep Den Schneider has a popular instagram and YouTube channel. Zhto makes him an iconic person in the modern world, including in the field of promoting the protection of wild animals. He used his own money to hire 6 armed guards to guard the reserve with wild animals. Before his arrival, animals in South Africa were killed EN masse for the sake of paws and fangs, this brutal attitude was interrupted thanks to Dan Schneider.

https://www.instagram.com/dean.schneider/ - His instagram account has 6,700,000 followers today. So it is more than reasonably made to Wikipedia.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIsz3XD8_E1ebhE4YScWeJg?app=desktop - his YouTube channel has more than 1,000,000 subscribers.

And out of hundreds of videos and millions of people subscribed to it, there was some one taken out of context, posted on some unpopular small site. No, that doesn't prove that anyone is cruel! About 7,000,000 people watch Dan Schneider online. And if he had done evil, he would have been sued long ago. That's all I wanted to say. The article is significant by all criteria. Den Schneider is John Irving of the 21st century and it is great that he is on our Land. Leave the article, haters are not allowed to make false news.

I will add that the site and the information on it, which was referred to by critics of den Schneider, removed this page as unreliable and in fact fake. That is, the data source was already unreliable, and now even a non-popular site has got rid of this article. This indicates that the news against den Schneider is clearly fake. In General, information from a site that is barely subscribed to by several dozen people is not a source for Wikipedia, in my opinion it is obvious. So you can create any page on Facebook, recruit a couple of dozen friends and post fakes, and then insert it into Wikipedia as an authoritative source.--Бутывский Дмитрий (talk) 12:38, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

The lioness Nayla is not only alive, but also constantly participates in the video of Dean Schneider, squeezes with him, caresses, plays, lives fully and fun. So attempts to create fake news that Dean Schneider is beating someone-have no grounds. The fact that the Lions sometimes need to give pokes in response is a fact, a given, they are inside the pride, too, poke each other with their paws, scratch and it is important to stop them in time. But this has nothing to do with the beating at all, Dean never beat the lions, they would have eaten him for the beating.--Бутывский Дмитрий (talk) 20:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. While the article has been been subject to recent WP:BLP violations, I don't think deletion is the right approach. Articles that are frequently vandalized or edited with improperly sourced information are generally protected, not deleted, on these grounds. The subject of this article meets WP:GNG with significant coverage in the following independent reliable sources:
  1. "Dean Schneider, rencontre avec l'homme qui danse avec les lions" from Paris Match
  2. "Dean Schneider, der Schweizer Instagram-Star, der mit Löwen kuschelt" from Aargauer Zeitung
  3. "Schweizer Löwenflüsterer wird zum Instagram-Star" from 20 Minuten
  4. «Las personas protegen lo que aman» from Las Provincias

Per WP:NONENG, non-English sources are allowed on Wikipedia, and WP:GNG specifies that qualifying sources do not have to be in English. — Newslinger talk 12:12, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

• Keep per WP:GNG as explained by Newslinger above. I started the article in July 2019 and have no connection with the subject. I suggest using WP:PP or selectively blocking connected contributors from editing this article. TJMSmith (talk) 12:45, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
• Delete The whole Wikipedia article seems like a PR ploy. I searched on Google but couldn't find any reputed news sources on him. There's one by Daily Mail and others are non-English sources. If the article is kept then it should be reviewed once again as there are lots of claims that are not supported, and the article should be protected considering the recent WP:BLP violations by relatively fresh accounts. - TheodoreIndiana (talk) 16:26, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

  According to the notability guideline, "Sources do not have to be available online or written in English." — Newslinger talk 12:00, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Many of the claims in the article like that he "worked in finance" are vague and not directly cited. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:52, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

[1] states that he "Estudió finanzas" (studied finance) and that he had a financial planning company. Yes, it is vague but it is sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 18:21, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 18:54, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Comment I added a sentence about an investigation from a new reputable article in The Times: [2]. TJMSmith (talk) 13:38, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Comment - What do we have in the end? The one who tried to submit an article for deletion, disregarded the norms of Wikipedia. Dean Schneider has long been an iconic person, a person in instagram, YouTube and Facebook. He is a well-known animal rights activist and activist for the protection of all living things. Millions of people have subscribed to it, it is well-known and clearly meets the criteria of significance for an article in Wikipedia. He's not a low-level Internet celebrity.

• The lioness Nayla is alive, healthy, hugs and kisses with Dean Schneider, so no real harm to her he did not cause, since Nayla is still a wild animal, without any collar. And Dean Schneider are all the same and there was not in the hands of sticks and other things.

• Conclusion-article to leave, news that when the Dean Schneider knuckle hit Nayla on the paw, for what Nayla his grabbing claws for a neck-to leave, the link to the magazine Time this is authoritative. To add to this information, the fact that Nayla is alive and well and making out with Dean is proof of this hundreds of videos on Dean Schneider's instagram.--Бутывский Дмитрий (talk) 18:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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