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Doug Drysdale

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Mildly WP:PROMO bio of a non-notable businessman. Despite being a WP:REFBOMB, the sources do not meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. They are limited to:

Routine news in WP:TRADES publications ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6])
Press releases ([7])
WP:PRIMARYSOURCE Q&A interviews/speaker bios ([8], [9], [10], [11])
A WP:FORBES "contributor" post (i.e., not reliable) and a "citizen contributor" (i.e. unedited blogger) post on a local news site.
And finally, a promotional profile on a website whose stated purpose is promoting the success of executives and their diverse team of business partners and thus not independent.

I didn't find anything else qualifying in the WP:BEFORE search. I also checked on the statement that he won an EY Entrepreneur of the Year Award, which might meet WP:ANYBIO#1, but it turns out he won a New Jersey region EY award (source) Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Medicine, and England. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The subject may meet notability standards under WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. Coverage across multiple sources, including recognition through an EY Entrepreneur of the Year (regional) award, demonstrates relevance and significance in their field. While some sources are primary or publications, they complement others that provide independent context. The article can be improved for neutrality and sourcing rather than deleted. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 05:11, 2 December 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: 24eeWikiUser (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]

@24eeWikiUser, please say which sources meet the test of WP:GNG or WP:NBIO, not just asserting that they do. And the criterion of WP:ANYBIO that allows a subject to be considered automatically notable for winning an award applies to "major" awards like Nobel Prizes, Oscars, MacArthur Genius Grants, etc -- not to being one of 11 people from New Jersey to win a business award. Dclemens1971 (talk) 05:15, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may not yet be convinced that the subject, Doug Drysdale, is notable; however, he has 30 years of experience in his field, including 12 years as CEO of three pharmaceutical companies with global reach Alvogen, Pernix Therapeutics, and Cybin Inc. Among them are a NASDAQ-listed company and another he served as Founding CEO. He has also chaired the boards of other NASDAQ-listed companies and has made widely recognized contributions. Since the sources back up his background and align with the listed awards and recognitions, I reiterate that the article can be improved for neutrality and sourcing rather than deleted.

1. Sustained Attention: Routine mentions, when taken collectively, contribute to notability by indicating sustained attention to the subject's career.
2. Regional EY Award: Regional awards are part of the broader EY Entrepreneur of the Year program, which adds credibility and weight to his achievements.
3. Field Contributions: Detailed coverage in interviews and other publications, provide valuable insight into his influence and significance.
4. Sources Are Not Disqualifying: What you referred to as promotional sites and Forbes articles are not entirely disqualifying when they complement other sources.

24eeWikiUser (talk) 06:58, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I note that you have still not answered my question: which sources do you think qualify the subject as notable? Your comments do a lot of hand-waving about routine mentions, when taken collectively and detailed coverage in interviews and complement other sources but you have offered no competing analysis of sources, nor even suggested a mere WP:THREE, that meet the standard here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:45, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment. Please check these sources, [12], [13], [14], and he was also listed among 10 Psychedelics CEOs To Pay Attention To In 2022. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 17:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All of these sources are already discussed in my nomination statement, but here's some more detailed analysis of each of the links you offered:

A local news profile by a "citizen contributor." "Citizen contributor" = community member/blogger, not an actual journalist and thus not someone writing to the standards expected of reliable sources.

A Forbes profile by a "senior contributor." Per WP:FORBESCON, Most content on Forbes.com is written by contributors or "Senior Contributors" with minimal editorial oversight, and is generally unreliable.

A press release posted by Drysdale's company on BusinessWire. Per WP:PRSOURCE, A press release is clearly not an independent source as it is usually written either by the business or organization it is written about, or by a business or person hired by or affiliated with the organization.

A brief mention in a list of CEOs. This is a WP:TRIVIALMENTION, not WP:SIGCOV. It's also directly copied from his official corporate bio and thus not WP:INDEPENDENT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:55, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 06:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]