Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Italian Winter Throwing Championships

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The result was redirect to Athletics in Italy. More input here would have been optimal, but that hasn't particularly occurred. Redirection is a reasonable compromise in my view, relevant to the input that has occurred here. The nomination has not been countered, and despite the views of the keep !voter, independent sources that provide significant coverage have not been provided and may not be existent. The notion of redirection is in accordance with WP:ATD-R, and leaves open an option for some of the content to be selectively merged, as suggested by the opiner for redirection herein. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:12, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Italian Winter Throwing Championships

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Fails WP:SPORTSEVENT. Just a results listing. Almost all the sources are primary from the Italian Athletics Federation. LibStar (talk) 05:34, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and Italy. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 06:51, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep strongly I would like to point out the not very nice behavior of the User:LibStar who, despite being me the creator of the page, did not warn me of the deletion. Secondly, the sources are authoritative precisely because they are all from the federation that organizes it. Third: it is more about the list of winners because that must be this type of page. Last but not least, the page of a national championship is wrong to be deleted because otherwise all in Category:National athletics competitions should be. --Kasper2006 (talk) 17:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the significant third party coverage to meet WP:SPORTSEVENT? Also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason for keeping. LibStar (talk) 22:17, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Look for example at this page of the same category, does it seem more significant to you? Look at how many red links of Egyptian athletes, but do you know that some of the athletes of the page you want to delete have won medals in world or Olympic events? You "erasers at any cost" sometimes shift the focus, you are not able to... "think three-dimensionally" (cit. Back to the Future).

--Kasper2006 (talk) 04:31, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If you think another article is not notable, nominate it for deletion. LibStar (talk) 04:37, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ALLORNOTHING applies here too to your reasoning. LibStar (talk) 04:41, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice, but I would never allow myself to ask the delation of a Wikipedia article... human beings are not all the same, everyone has their own modus operandi... their own morality, their own ethics. For example, I have respect for people's work and the desire to belittle it is not one of my priorities. --Kasper2006 (talk) 04:47, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Athletics in Italy with a 1-2 sentence mention of this competition in that page. Fails WP:GNG with no independent WP:SIGCOV found on a basic Google search. I could possibly see some coverage being out there so please ping me if anything is found. Frank Anchor 12:43, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 06:30, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:34, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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