Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kennard F. Bubier

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The result was no consensus. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 13:26, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kennard F. Bubier

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No evidence of notability other than as a recipient of the Navy Cross. Undoubtedly a prestigious award but without anything else, it doesn't amount to notability. Fails WP:GNG JaneciaTaylor (talk) 00:26, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~delete~~ All I can find is that he was awarded the Navy Cross. Unless that is an automatic grant of notability under a special notability guideline, he does not appear notable based on coverage.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 08:34, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Changing to Keep. I found sources for the fact that a mount in Antarctica was named after him, and that he had a role int he 1930 film With Byrd at the South Pole. The bare minimum now exists to keep.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 06:55, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - An article about a guy which only has one of his accomplishments (Navy Cross), few sources from the military (which means he probably isn't notable), and two paragraphs (stub article). Analog Horror, (Communicate) 00:11, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. NCO with a single second-level gallantry decoration. Fails WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO and WP:SOLDIER. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:50, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The Navy Cross is a second-level decoration, so you need more than one to pass WP:SOLDIER. However he may qualify due to participation in the Byrd Expedition. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:12, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this. I think we have to apply at least some selectivity on the members of the Byrd expedition, otherwise we may end up building pages for the expedition's cooks and janitors. That said, perhaps he did something on the expedition that went beyond being a mechanic. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 06:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hawkeye7:, I have found a few more sources and changed to keep. See comment above.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 06:55, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In addition to what ThatMontrealIP listed, he also has the Byrd Antarctic Expedition Medal from here. I also think he went a bit further in the service than indicated; this source indicates that he made lieutenant colonel. His mentions in Gbooks is mostly in passing. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Vernon:, I thought the Google books source Little America: Aerial Exploration in the Antarctic, the Flight to the South Pole. was a little better than passing mentions. I can't see the whole of it, but it seems to mention him frequently as a central member of the team. I found one 1930s newspaper article, but suspect there are others. The feeling I get is that this was big news then, and he was part of it. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 07:24, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ThatMontrealIP: Hmmm, I took a closer look and I would agree. The Leatherneck magazine also seemed to give him a nice write-up. Keep, I think he meets GNG. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:30, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I think with the Byrd expedition he meets WP:SOLDIER and WP:GNG. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 11:53, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:SOLDIER and WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 08:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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