Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margaret Helen Bayly

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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 23:57, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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A bad case of inherited notability. Apart from giving some advice, learning to use a teleprinter, and entertaining guests, there is nothing here at all notable. It is nearly all about her husband. Derek Andrews (talk) 19:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Derek Andrews I tend to agree with you, checked newspapers.com and HighBeam, 0 mentions for her. There are however some book mentions at this article. I think it needs more investigation. She possibly has some notability - even as just a host for William Stephenson, Alan Turing and Gordon Welchman. I will suggest to the author of the article to clarify these book mentions. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:37, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We have no policy on notability being earned as a host or hostess. If we did we would have many many more articles. 104.163.147.121 (talk) 23:30, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 00:34, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 19:46, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I could not find good sources in a search. The article seems to rely on inherited notability. Sections such as "she entertained her husband's guests"... well, those do not point towards notability. Of course the times were different, but what we have here are many sources on the husband and few to none on the wife.104.163.147.121 (talk) 23:20, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete unless references can be added to the article to reinforce notability guidelines. Hmlarson (talk) 19:09, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I'd be interested in hearing the take of the article creator as to what elements of WP:BIO -- or indeed, of any notability criteria on Wikipedia -- s/he thinks the subject meets. For my money, the answer is zero. Casual mentions in other people's biographies don't cut it. Ravenswing 20:50, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete unles sources can be found and cited that discuss her (not her husband or her associates) in some detail. It may w3ell be that there is an interesting story to tell about Bayly, but unless someone has told it in a published reliable source, Wikipedia can't be the place to recount it. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 00:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Bayly's role in convincing her eventual husband to pursue electrical engineering may be worth mentioning in his biography, but this is a clear case of violating the not inherited rule.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:10, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.