Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicole Bass (television personality)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. People disagree on whether the subject meets WP:ENT and/or WP:ACTOR. What makes it really difficult to close this is that nobody actually analyzed specific sources, so I'm forced to go on a nosecount of "did not" / "did too" arguments. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole Bass (television personality)

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Stub article for non-notable reality tv participant. Jamesbuc (talk) 10:19, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Jamesbuc (talk) 10:19, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 11:53, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Thsmi002 (talk) 12:00, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Jamesbuc, are you doing any WP:BEFORE on this long list of nominations or is this just WP:IDONTLIKEIT? Why are you not even suggesting WP:ATDs? WP:ENT #1 states: Actors, voice actors, comedians, opinion makers, models, and celebrities: Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. She has had significant roles in multiple notable TV shows. Boleyn (talk) 11:11, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have been checking beforehand and have been selective with ones I have picked. This does indeed fall under what people and most wikipedia editors would consider non-notable and from what is here and what I can find, this person has very little notability with participation in only 2/3 shows. There is very little other information outside of these small appearances. In regards to your accusation that I am going after WP:IDONTLIKEIT it should be worth noting that I have contributed to reality television pages in the past and I am not opposed to articles about reality television participants but I have been picking out a few which have minimal information and notability attached to them. If you want to discuss this any further please use the talk page. Jamesbuc (talk) 22:58, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In what way does it no meet the guidelines at WP:ENT, Jamesbuc? It's also very unclear why you are suggesting deletion and not merge or redirect. Boleyn (talk) 07:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - coverage is run-of-the-mill for people who have appeared on TV and is really publicity for the shows rather than in-depth coverage of the person - does not meet WP:NACTOR, "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" - appearing in a couple of reality show episodes does not seem significant - Epinoia (talk) 17:11, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Epinoia, you appear to have misread WP:ENT #1 - the reality shows do not need to be significant (and that's a very subjective term) but they need to be 'notable'. The Only Way Is Essex and Ex on the Beach are shows that garner a lot of coverage and have many viewers - they both have articles and are both notable. 'Multiple' is covered by the fact that she had been in three notable shows - TOWIE, Ex on the Beach and The Challenge. How does it not meet WP:ENT #1? Boleyn (talk) 17:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

-I didn't say the shows were not significant, I meant that the appearance in the show was minor and did not meet WP:ENT's "significant roles" - other reality show performers of minor notability have come up for deletion recently, Sarah Goodhart and Maria Fowler, the Goodhart article was deleted and the Fowler article was kept, so it doesn't seem that we have any clear consensus on whether appearing in a minor reality show is notable or not - my view is that it is not notable at all, but if others feel it is notable and that the sources are solid and consensus is reached, then that's fine with me - Epinoia (talk) 21:49, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 04:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The coverage in various regional newspapers (not just limited to one region), and MTV, gives her enough for WP:GNG IMHO. Clearly for people who follow this sort of thing, she is a household name. — Amakuru (talk) 10:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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