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[[User:Bishonen|<bdi>Bishonen</bdi>]] ([[User talk:Bishonen|talk]]) 14:59, 13 December 2020 (UTC) |
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== Impact == |
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I wanted to give you this for '''your passion for accessibility'''. I wrote a little article today (to nourish and grow) about [[Vertraut den neuen Wegen|the new ways]], and wish you all the best for yours. Miss your help, and - more - [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#RexxS|you]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:I hope [[User:Gerda Arendt]] doesn't mind me adding to this - in real life, I have a passion for accessibility features when they are ''feasible'' - unlike most who seem to only "like" them when they are ''easy and cheap''. When I began on Wikipedia, I didn't realize just how much thought went into accessibility on Wikipedia - but I still remember you introducing me to [[WP:DTT]] which I attempt to follow completely in articles and everywhere else where feasible now. Sure, it takes more time to follow DTT guidance, and it takes more time to attempt to comply with [[MOS:LISTGAP]] and other guidelines, but that time is worth it because it is ''feasible'' to do so (i.e. doesn't require intensive coding of each instance). It still pains me to think that some people may be virtually unable to contribute to talk pages and articles because they would need to deal with sloppy code which is unintelligible to screen readers and other assistive software/devices... but I do my best now to fix problems when I see them and can. I worry that if we lose you permanently we may lose one of the most accessibility-focused administrators on Wikipedia - but after having seen the arbitration case and how it seems that some negative things are being given undue weight given all the good. In my opinion, people are treating you worse than the AstraZeneca vaccine is in some media right now - and that is an issue in which life/death can be invoked - yet they're still treating you worse for things much more minor. If you happen to see this, please just know that your dedication to accessibility has left a mark on me for the duration of my Wikipedia editing - since you showed me [[WP:DTT]] I've actively searched for accessibility guidance on this website and attempted to assist with more - and intend to continue to do so. Regards -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez ([[User:Berchanhimez|User]]/[[User talk:Berchanhimez|say hi!]]) 03:03, 20 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::I would also like to say that Rexx's accessibility work has been great. He did a really good job of explaining accessibility and alt image texts at a London meetup a few months ago, which encouraged me to go back through articles I'd create to add alt text for accessibility. [[User:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b>]][[User talk:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#000000">2302</b>]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302|talk)]] 12:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::: [[User:Bishonen|Bish]], please tell us the secret of how to make a thread not fall victim to archiving. Newcomers: look in the archives, especially [[User talk:RexxS/Archive 65#LocalPunk]] and the complete [[User talk:RexxS/Archive 66]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:19, 6 May 2021 (UTC) |
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Today: [[Thomas Fritsch]], the German character voice of Diego in [[Ice Age (2002 film)|Ice Age]]. I wonder how I could make my 12 calendar pics change automatically when the new month comes, such in my edit notice. - As said before, I wrote [[Vertraut den neuen Wegen]] thinking of you, RexxS, and was pleased to hear it sung again in a livestreamed service, opening the service opening the {{ill|Ökumenischer Kirchentag|de}} in Frankfurt, open air, with the skyline in the background. It seems the melody of the year, with "[[O komm, du Geist der Wahrheit]]" (Now come, you Spirit of Truth) sung to the same. Today is Pentecost Monday here, traditionally the day for ecumenical togetherness. Miss you. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC) |
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See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1025910264 my talk today], - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:37, 30 May 2021 (UTC) |
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You must have a template that you substitute to get <code><nowiki><nowiki>{{template}}</nowiki></nowiki></code> → <nowiki>{{template}}</nowiki> because there is no way you type that every time! — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:54, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
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: {{re|MSGJ|label=Martin}} yeah, somebody created a template to do that, but I can't remember its name, so I can't use it. Please excuse me refactoring your markup, but it screws up my syntax-highlighting if you allow the parser to see an opening angle bracket. |
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: Anyway, before I compose a reply, I use the edit-box to test the code I'm calling. I use an old editing interface that allows me to insert <code><nowiki></nowiki></code> with the cursor positioned in the centre, so I just cut the code, insert the code-nowiki; paste the code; add → at the end; and then paste the code again. |
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: If I had a better memory, I could subst a template, but sadly, my powers are declining as my seventh decade approaches. Cheers --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 22:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::{{u|RexxS}}, Was it {{tl|tl}}? [[User:Vexations|Vexations]] ([[User talk:Vexations|talk]]) 22:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::: {{re|Vexations}} nope, sorry. It would have to have content something like <syntaxhighlight lang="moin"><code><nowiki>{{{1|}}}</nowiki></code> → {{{1|}}}</syntaxhighlight> I know it's out there somewhere. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 22:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::While looking at some changes at [[Template:Val/doc]], I noticed [[Module:DemoTemplate]]. I have never used it and I don't think RexxS or I will change our ways, but anyone compiling a list might like to start with that. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 02:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::: Sadly, I can't get it to work quite right when there's an invoke inside a parameter. Compare: |
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:::::# {{#invoke:DemoTemplate|Cite Q/sandbox | Q2924826, Q13872896 }} |
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:::::# <code>{{Cite Q/sandbox|1= {{#invoke:WikidataIB |getPropertyIDs |qid=Q2752669 |P1343 |fwd=ALL |osd=n}} }}</code> → {{Cite Q/sandbox|1= {{#invoke:WikidataIB |getPropertyIDs |qid=Q2752669 |P1343 |fwd=ALL |osd=n}} }} |
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::::: The first one just uses <code>Q2924826, Q13872896</code> as the parameters to CiteQ; the second one actually has an invoke of WikidataIB, but you don't see it; the third one uses <code>safesubst:</code>. but the module sticks an extra <code>1= </code> into it. Close, though. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 03:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC) |
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I nearest thing I found was [[Template:Codenowiki]], but it doesn't do the arrow and the evaluation — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 12:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Hello. [[User:Zongqi]] who you unblocked the other day is repeating inappropriate editing. |
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In [[Shikigami]] page, which has nothing to do with traditional Chinese medicine, he used sources that have nothing to do with shikigami to promote traditional Chinese medicine. |
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His edits was also confirmed in the [[Ikigai]] from October to December 2020, and his behavior did not change before and after he was blocked. |
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His edits have also been criticized by IP users in the summary section of Ikigai. I am concerned that he keeps writing incorrect information to promote traditional Chinese medicine and philosophy, using irrelevant or inaccurate sources on various wikipedia pages.--[[User:Green cigarette|Green cigarette]] ([[User talk:Green cigarette|talk]]) 02:52, 7 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Thinking of you, with some [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2021|impressions of places, flowers and music]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:09, 20 June 2021 (UTC) |
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... and of [[User:SlimVirgin]], whose last reply to me was in a thread [[User talk:SlimVirgin/February 2021#Green for hope|Green for hope]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC) |
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:: {{re|Green cigarette}} I've dealt with it. But please remember [[WP:Vandalism]] defines "vandalism" as {{tq|"editing (or other behavior) {{em|{{strong|deliberately}} intended to obstruct or defeat the [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|project's purpose]]}}"}}. I know it's galling to be accused of vandalism, but it is never appropriate to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glossary_of_Shinto&diff=prev&oldid=1005386944 reply in kind]. It doesn't matter how inaccurate or inappropriate another editor's contributions may be, unless they are irrefutably editing with a clear intent to damage the encyclopedia, you can't accuse them of vandalism, or you may find yourself in trouble for [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]]. I hope you will consider this advice in the spirit in which it is intended. Cheers --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 20:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Still thinking of you, and these flowers go well with the image on SlimVirgin's user page. I also think about making the template reminding of Precious a bot, in order of surviving me. How would I code questions such as: |
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* Which users have an anniversary of the award, and how many years? Then for each one: |
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* Did a user edit during the last year? (if not, no reminder necessary.) |
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* Is the user banned or blocked? (if yes, possibly better no reminder, although I know cases where I'd defiantly do it anyway.) |
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* Did the user opt-out being reminded? (which would have to be coded, and while some openly say so, some show just by deleting so it should be somewhat invisible/private) |
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I guess we'd need a better organisation of a table. Just thinking ... --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC) |
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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2021#Fidelio|Music happens]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:38, 14 July 2021 (UTC) |
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More music: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1033904500 2 songs], the morning song - about rising from being down, in more than one sense - is a GA, - there should be more given my initials, but I also want to care for articles of [[WP:QAI/Recent deaths|those who recently died]] (now [[Esther Béjarano]]), and [[WP:QAI/Psalms|psalms]] in memory of Yoninah, - more missing than there. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:02, 16 July 2021 (UTC) |
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Hi, I wanted to ask your advice because I am starting to see occasional errors appearing on [[List of lighthouses in England]]. Is there a technical limit on the number of wikidata items that a page can access, or do I need to make my template more efficient? Either way I would like to analyse loading times, lags, memory usage, etc. of this page more carefully and I don't know the best tools to do that. Thanks — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:35, 8 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Today, [[Teresa Żylis-Gara]], the second soprano to impress me on stage, died, - long live the memory of her beautiful singing, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1041137042 remembered with thanks]. 28 August 2013 was a special concert day: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images#28 August 2013|look]]. After Hillbillyholiday [[User talk:Gerda Arendt/Archive 2013#A tree for you!|gave me a tree]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:48, 28 August 2021 (UTC) |
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Page watcher: The limits/data of interest can be found in the HTML source at the bottom of the parser output. For my version of the page, this is what it had to say: |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1042920996 Omas gegen Rechts] - enjoy strong women! I thought of Yoninah on the first day of [[Rosh Hashanah]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:51, 7 September 2021 (UTC) |
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today: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1044318965 the day of bold red and black], for Dante who died 700 years ago, and Peter Fleischmann who died recently, leaving us films full of vision. Dante: just heard [[Inferno (opera)|Inferno]], imagined by a woman, the main character both speaking and singing with an inner 4-part voice! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:04, 14 September 2021 (UTC) |
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On [[International Day of Peace|Peace Day]], I thought of your [[User:RexxS/Infobox factors]] and wonder how you'd apply them to Mahler's [[Symphony No. 8 (Mahler)|Eighth Symphony]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:27, 21 September 2021 (UTC) |
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The error that you have been seeing is directly related to the <code>Lua time usage: 8.525/10.000 seconds</code> line; if I had had the same issue it would have been >10 seconds. |
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While there is a limit to the number of Wikidata items accessed (400 apparently), this issue is only indirectly related (in that you are accessing 80 items and that's taking Lua a long time to chew on). As you can see, a lot of that time is being spent either in the Wikibase Lua library or one of our implementations of that module. |
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I am not personally sure what can be done to fix these issues, or how to troubleshoot inefficient code better, since we don't have access to the instructions generated or any other standard IDE offerings. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 00:51, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
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: Hi {{u|MSGJ|Martin}}. There is indeed a technical limit of 400 Wikidata items that can be accessed on a page, but that's not what's bumping up against the limit on that page. When you get performance issues, you should open the relevant page for editing and preview it. That ensures you get an uncached version. At the bottom of the preview you will find some tables labelled as 'parser profile data', which you may have to expand to see. Looking through those, you will get an idea of what values are getting close to their limits. By the way, those values fluctuate from run to run depending on a host of other factors, but they will give you a good idea of what's happening. In the case of [[List of lighthouses in England]], you only have 83 out of 400 entities loaded, so that's not your problem, but you will see that the Lua is taking over 8 seconds to run the scripts, and only 10 seconds are allowed before it times out. If you hit a busy time when there is some extra latency in returning the database calls, then it can easily hit the time limit. So time is the problem and you need faster code. I see that you have a count of 93 expensive parser functions, and they are often the prime culprits (certain calls are marked as 'expensive' because of the amount of resources/time they consume). |
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: You have 80 {{tl|list item}}s in the page. If I remove 40 of them and preview, I can see that the Lua time drops to around 4 seconds and the count of expensive parser functions is 53. That indicates that each list item is taking around 100 ms and 1 expensive call. The {list items} are responsible for almost all of the Lua time in rendering the page ({{tl|convert}} uses relatively little). I should point out that I got Lua times between 3.5 and 5 seconds on several runs, so you have to take a guess at the average and worst cases{{snd}} you soon get a feel for it after a few previews. There are 8 expensive parser calls in {{tl|Portal bar|United Kingdom|Engineering|Architecture|Lists}}, but that's a minor contribution. |
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: Anyway, Lua time is the barrier (and we don't really want pages taking over 10 seconds to load), so you need to optimise the speed of the {{tl|list item}} template. |
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: You can use something like this to isolate the template call in your user sandbox: |
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:Preview that and you'll see a Lua time around 100 ms with an expensive parser function count of 1 as expected. Then you'll need to look at the 'Templates used in this preview' and try to work out which one is taking the time. I think it might be that each cell is a separate call to Wikidata with all its overheads. Here's the county: |
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:* <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:wd|properties|linked|Q15182446|P7959}}</nowiki></code> → {{#invoke:wd|properties|linked|Q15182446|P7959}} |
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: You can't improve that by switching to WikidataIB (<code><nowiki>{{#invoke:wikidataIB|getValue|ps=1|qid=Q15182446|P7959}}</nowiki></code>) as it also takes 21 ms. You only need about half a dozen calls per row at 20 ms each to push the row time over 100 ms, and then when you have 80 rows, you run into the 10 second limit. |
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: So, I would have to recommend getting a specific Lua module to create each table row for you, which should reduce the overhead. Let me know if you want me to try to work on that with you. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 01:04, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
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: {{re|Izno|MSGJ|label2=Martin}} I got interested in the general problem and performance. To test out my guess that the overhead in the #invoke was the main culprit, I wrote a demo module to create a table from Wikidata at [[Module:Sandbox/RexxS/Wikidata table]]. It just does fetching of raw values but it can fetch 80 rows of 6 columns in 600 ms – preview an edit at [[Module talk:Sandbox/RexxS/Wikidata table]] and see the parser profiling data. The Lua code only creates the table rows, so you make your own caption, header, etc. as usual, but that's probably a good thing. I'll refine it a bit and see if I can make it usable. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 14:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::Yeah, I was pretty close to suggesting that but hadn't looked at the details to know if that would work. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 17:42, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::Adding about 150 conversions increases the Lua time to about 1 second. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 18:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::That's very nice and at least proves that the approach is viable. It will need a bit of work before it's ready to insert in articles, e.g. with references, qualifiers, editonwikidata links, etc. which I would be happy to work with you on. The downside of having the module produce the whole table, rather than row by row, is that individual columns can't be overwritten, which I think would be important in an article. I guess {{tl|list item}} could be made more efficient in Lua while still retaining much of its flexibility. For a start, would it be possible to remove the expensive function? Anyway thanks for the useful technical information. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 20:26, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::: {{re||MSGJ|label=Martin}} well it shows how fast it can run with optimisations. I wasn't suggesting it as a replacement. Actually making each invoke consumes quite a lot of time, and you can gain a fair amount by moving from 1 call per table cell to 1 call per table row, which would allow overrides for any cell on a per-column basis. I'll have a look at that later. As it turns out the "expensive" functions don't make much difference, as [[Module:Wd]] uses expensive calls to get values and [[Module:WikidataIB]] doesn't, but they consume the same amount of time to fetch a value. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 21:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::One call per table row would be good to try, and it would be interesting to compare the times with the whole table version. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 13:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::: {{re||MSGJ|label=Martin}} I've added the single row functionality to [[Module:Sandbox/RexxS/Wikidata table]], and created a couple of demo templates at [[Template:Wdtable row]] and [[Template:Wdtable row/lighthouse]] to encapsulate the invoke. Using the second template, I've made a demo with 95 rows at [[Module talk:Sandbox/RexxS/Wikidata table #Testing WDtable row]]. I've previewed it a few times and it takes between 1.2 and 1.8 seconds for 95 rows, which seems to indicate that one call per row is the optimisation you need. Cheers --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 18:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::: {{ping||MSGJ|label=Martin}} Thanks for the reformatting of the columns. I've added functionality to enable multiple pids per cell, like location and coordinates. You need to make sure that each cell's properties are separated by spaces or commas or both. Pids not separated by spaces or commas (I use '+') will all go inside the same table cell separated by a {{tag|br|o}}. The pids string for [[Template:Wdtable row/lighthouse]] is now <code>|pids=P18, P276+P625, P7959, P571, P2048, P2923, P2929, P137</code>. I've built functionality to allow qualifiers separated from the pids in the cell by a '/', (so something like <code>P137/P580+P582</code>}, but I haven't coded the actual fetching of the parameters yet. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 23:33, 10 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::: I've moved the module to [[Module:Wikidata table]] as sandbox code can't realistically be used in articles. Further discusion is at [[Template talk:Wdtable row]]. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 17:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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== Zongqi == |
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Hello, RexxS. Is there any insight you can give me? Requesting unblock at {{UTRS|40392}}. |
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* {{tqb|I had a another new editor start removing my edits on curtain pages without giving a reasonable explanation for their removal}} |
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* {{tqb|The page in question has a very lucrative publishing purpose.}} |
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* {{tqb| so other editors could not see it to make a good judgement of the situation, }} |
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* {{tqb| please look into sock puppetry and editor cohesion with these editors}} |
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I've seen your extensive AGFness on their talk page. |
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Thanks, --<b>[[User:Deepfriedokra|<span style="color:black">Deep</span><span style="color:red">fried</span><span style="color:DarkOrange">okra</span>]] [[User talk:Deepfriedokra|(<span style="color:black">talk</span>)]]</b> 10:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{tpw}} Hi, RexxS, {{u|Deepfriedokra}}! Sorry to butt in, I happened to see this. Isn't it likely that this is another sock of Shenqijing, who RexxS already knows? I haven't looked deeply, but the timing looks right (account created a few days after the Sntmichael sock was created and blocked), they both claim to be Dharma teachers, and there seems to be [https://intersect-contribs.toolforge.org/index.php?project=enwiki&namespaceFilter=all&users%5B%5D=Shenqijing&users%5B%5D=Zongqi&users%5B%5D=&users%5B%5D=&users%5B%5D=&users%5B%5D=&users%5B%5D=&users%5B%5D=&sort=0 a good deal of overlap in edits]. Regards to you both, [[User:Justlettersandnumbers|Justlettersandnumbers]] ([[User talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 13:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{reply|Justlettersandnumbers}} Thanks. Not familiar with that SM, but I was wondering if they were someone's sock. --<b>[[User:Deepfriedokra|<span style="color:black">Deep</span><span style="color:red">fried</span><span style="color:DarkOrange">okra</span>]] [[User talk:Deepfriedokra|(<span style="color:black">talk</span>)]]</b> 15:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:: Hi {{u|Deepfriedokra}}! Without seeing the UTRS ticket, I obviously can't comment on the request as a whole, but Zongqi seems to concentrate only on other people's behaviour and rarely addresses their own. I looked through their contributions before taking action and there is a catalogue of attempting to link [[Wuxing (Chinese philosophy)]] to a wide range of "fringey" topic areas despite regular objections from editors on the affected articles. You only need look at [[Talk:Ayurveda/Archive 18 #Addition of Wyxing]] for an example of how difficult it is to communicate with them, and their seeming inability to understand other editors. I removed my initial block on the grounds that they might keep away from conflict, but they simply went back to their previous ''modus operandi'', sadly. |
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:: As for the quotes you gave above, I believe the first was when another editor removed Zongqi's addition of Wuxing to an article (a Japanese article, I think) on the grounds of Wuxing being unrelated, Zongqi simply dismissed that as 'unreasonable' and proceeded to label the reverts as vandalism. |
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:: I have no idea what "a very lucrative publishing purpose" is intended to mean in relation to a Wikipedia article. |
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:: Zongqi has no idea that page histories exist, and so believes that any edit they make should remain until other editors can judge it. I believe that is an untenable situation. |
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:: Zongqi has clearly been quick to level evidence-free accusations of sockpuppetry against editors who disagree with them, which unfortunately I no longer find surprising. |
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:: Sorry I can't be of more assistance, but I've reached the end of my tether with Zongqi, and I think we're firmly in [[WP:standard offer]] territory now. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 16:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protection psychosis == |
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RexxS or {{u|Ajpolino}} could you glance at {{la|psychosis}} in terms of semi-protection? [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 16:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Semi-protected for two weeks. Will post on IP's talk page (not sure IPs ever really see their talk pages, but worth a shot), and look into their contributions at [[Hallucination]] as well. [[User:Ajpolino|Ajpolino]] ([[User talk:Ajpolino|talk]]) 17:33, 13 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:: Thx ... ipad typing ... possibly related to that crazy psychosis in pregnancy thread at wt:med months ago, but I am on hotspot in car ... [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 17:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::: Thanks, {{u|Ajpolino}}, good call. The IP is conducting "fringey" OR, but not vandalism, so we can AGF on their intentions. I'll watchlist the page for a few weeks. The Ipv6 made a couple of edits from a slightly different IP, still in the /64 range, so the IP hops and it's unlikely they will ever see any messages left for them. It's a Comcast Cable address, so may be stable in the /64 range for the individual. As they are the only editor causing problems, their /64 range could be partially blocked form the page if necessary to avoid further semi-protection once it expires. Cheers --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 18:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::: They have registered now ... I would add to talk but am ipad hotspot ... [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 18:46, 13 February 2021 (UTC) |
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== Module:Formatnum == |
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Hello. What happened with what you were doing in the sandbox? [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 19:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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: Hi {{u|Trigenibinion}}. |
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: In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Formatnum/sandbox&diff=922518794&oldid=922517614 this edit], I enabled the main function to be called via a direct invoke, as it otherwise can only pick up parameters from a wrapper template. I use an external IDE that cleans up indents from using spaces to using tabs, so that accounts for the other changes in that diff and is the reason why the sandbox was 449 bytes smaller. |
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: In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Formatnum/sandbox&diff=922520681&oldid=922518794 this edit] and the subsequent one, I allowed the main function to accept "none" as a value for {{para|lang}} that can be passed to the formatNum function. I also set a fallback to the site's content language, which is useful for multilingual wikis. |
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: Nothing came of it, because I think it was only a demo when I was discussing the modules called by [[Module:WikidataIB]] with Jarekt, who maintains [[Module:Formatnum]] on Commons. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 19:42, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::OK, then I will just reset the sandbox because I think this module is a good place for a function that will replace a template I am using. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 21:36, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::Change of plans: I have converted the Commons test cases. I will promote your code. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 23:40, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::frame:getParent().args would grab the wrong arguments. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 18:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::: If the module were called from a wrapper template, frame:getParent().args would contain the arguments supplied to the wrapper template. There are no "wrong" arguments; it just depends on whether the module is invoked directly or through a template. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 19:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::You broke {{tl|FXConvert}} by reinstating that code. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 15:33, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::And now you broke it again by removing wordify. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 15:54, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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{{od}} Then fix {{tl|FXConvert}}. You must not alter the main entry point for an established module without sandboxing it and testing there. I've restored [[Module:Formatnum]] to the state it was prior to your changes. Your code is still in the sandbox, but is faulty in how it handles the parameters passed. It is clear that code like this: |
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local args = frame.args |
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if not args[1] and not args.number then |
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is nonsensical. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 15:55, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:I just left your |
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if not args[1] and not args.number then |
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to point out that something was being attempted here. It is harmless. |
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:{{tl|FXConvert}} is not broken. The code from the sandbox was tested before being promoted. It was later in the {{tl|FXConvert}} sandbox where I caught the problem with your code. |
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::The Formatnum sandbox now uses [[Module:Arguments]]. It is working both for the testcases and the {{tl|FXConvert}} sandbox. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 18:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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{{od}} |
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What do you mean "my code"? The sandbox code I wrote was: |
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<syntaxhighlight lang="lua"> |
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local args = frame:getparent().args |
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if not args[1] and not args.number then |
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Note the :getParent() in the first line. |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Formatnum&diff=1007745764&oldid=1007739736 This is the diff]] where you changed the first line to <code>local args = frame.args</code> which results in the nonsense I pointed out. That's your code, not mine. The [[Module:Formatnum]] may be called by [[Module:WikidataIB]], which is in use on about 1,120,000 pages on the English Wikipedia and 118 other Wikimedia projects. You can't just change its main entry point or its dependencies without causing chaos across multiple projects if they synchronise from enwiki. It's easy enough to deal with parameters without making yet another dependency. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 19:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Ah, I see the getParent() was already there, you only added: |
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:Well, this getParent() handling was already wrong then. Let [[Module:Arguments]] do its job. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 19:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::Note that the test cases (which did not exist until I added them) show that the production code is broken if you use that instead of the sandbox. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 19:59, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::The code you added fixes one problem but not both. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 20:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::: The frame:getParent().args handling was was perfectly correct. It fetches the parameters supplied to any template that wraps the #invoke calling the module. If you remove it, wrapper templates won't function unless they explicitly pass each parameter in the #invoke of the module. That is completely unnecessary and causes maintenance work on every wrapper template if the module is updated to include another parameter. |
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:::: The original author of the module did not use [[Module:Arguments]] because it's unnecessary to add a dependency for trivial tasks like reading parameters. We can't ask over a hundred other projects who use Formatnum to add yet another dependency just because you won't code the parameter handling. |
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:::: The sole problem with the standard module is that it ''only'' picks up parameters from a wrapper template (i.e via frame:getParent().args). The change I put into the sandbox was to show how it could be simply modified to use the parameters from a direct #invoke. It doesn't need Module:Arguments. Almost all of the time, it's called from another module, not from #invoke, anyway. If you don't believe me, go and ask {{u|Jarekt}} on Commons. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 20:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::I looked at the getArgs() code in [[Module:Arguments]], this will by default get the parameters from both the frame and the parent, putting the frame arguments first, which is the correct normal behavior. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 20:58, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::: There is no "correct normal behaviour". You could also look at [[Module:Wikidata table]], function makerow (line 442) that will show you how to merge the arguments from frame and parent, with the frame overwriting the parent arguments when they conflict. You would swap the lines 445 and 448 to achieve the opposite effect. You can also see how getWD (line 317) does custom processing of its parameters (but only uses frame because it's for debugging), or even how function ucf (line 102) does a minimal amount of processing on the passed parameter, again because it's just for debugging. "Horses for courses" and not a single dependency. You really don't want them as far as possible if other wikis are going to install your modules. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 22:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::OK, I have removed the dependency in the sandbox. It also checks out. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 23:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::: That looks much better to me. Have you had a chance to compare the outputs of the sandbox and the main module? I would expect no difference in the main function when called from a wrapper, but I would expect the main function to return nothing when invoked directly. If that checks out and you're ready to commit, I'd be happy to update the module from the the sandbox for you, although if you're thinking of applying for template editor permission at some point, you'll need a number of successful edit-protected requests, so you could make a formal request at [[Module talk:Formatnum]] using {{tl|edit-protected}} - read its documentation carefully if you haven't used it before, and let me know if you need any help with it. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 01:11, 21 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::::I tried calling the original code from the test cases but it returns nothing without your fix. The foreign test cases need to be looked at by someone familiar with those languages, because I copied the results from Commons and some do not match, but the main function was not changed. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 12:46, 21 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::::Is [[Module:Math]] OK or should I duplicate _round()? Is [[Module:TableTools]] OK or should I duplicate 2 new functions? Thanks. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 01:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::: Module:TableTools has a version on most wikis and Module:Math has a version on a number of wikis, so you might be able to use them without causing problems in most cases. I don't think it's a good idea to use them inside the main function call, but you can always write an alternative function to call via #invoke. Try to load external modules 'lazily', that is, define the variable to hold the imported table of functions without a value, and then test whether that variable is nil before you use imported functions, only loading the external module if it is nil. It may be that you're getting to the point where you are better off writing a separate new module and requiring Formatnum into your new module. Then you could experiment with different imported modules without compromising the ability of Formatnumber to be updated to sync with other wikis. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 01:32, 23 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Hello. I think wordify() is already so big that it belongs in its own module. It will only get bigger with time. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 13:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC) |
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[[Module:Formatnum]] is used on Commons to presents digits in a way customized for given language. On Commons it is only used from modules and occasionally from templates and never through "#invoke" statements. The input argument handling is done in a way that works with those modules and templates, and it did not changed much in last ~7 years. In the modules I write now I only use [[c:Module:Core]]'s getArgs function which is lightweight, merges 2 ways of passing arguments from templates, is not case sensative and treats "_" and spaces in field names interchangeably. It is also used without issues on ~60+M pages. But this module really did not need it. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|talk]]) 03:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Hello, before applying changes to production code, I saw that on wikipedia it was only being called from other modules. So {{tl|FXConvert}} would be the first template that tries to call it here. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 12:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Period grouping separator is not working. [[User:Trigenibinion|Trigenibinion]] ([[User talk:Trigenibinion|talk]]) 00:16, 22 February 2021 (UTC) |
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==Notice of noticeboard discussion== |
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== English heritage data and Wikidata == |
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Hi, about a year ago you started a template at {{tl|English Heritage listed building row/Wikidata}} based on a discussion we had about pulling the data from WD rather than manual compilation from WP in a list article. For whatever reasons we put it on the back-burner, anyway I finally go off my fat-backside to have a look at LUA coding. I'd mocked up at [[User:Nthep/sandbox8]] an idea of what I wanted to achieve and my first go at a module to populate it is at [[Module:Sandbox/Nthep/building]]. It's undoubtedly poorly written so I'd appreciate any feedback on how it can be improved. Also I have some questions about how to achieve a couple of things. |
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# Inserting the equivalent of a <nowiki><BR></nowiki> into a cell. If I use \n in the module it pushes all the subsequent cells into the one I put the newline in. There's a couple of cells e.g. heritage designation where I'd like the designation and the date on separate rows. |
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# Also on heritage designation I've managed to set the background colour of the cell based on the designation but it's by matching the text in property P1435 which is subject to error if the label of the item is changed. How do you make the comparison with the designation of the item e.g.Q15700831 rather than the text "Grade II* listed building" ? |
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Thanks for any assistance. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 11:59, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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: {{re|Nthep}} the code works, but will be slow and resource-heavy because you are calling frame:expandTemplate to make each wikidata call. It's using around 50ms of Lua time per row, so will start to run into problems once you reach around 100 rows in a table. If you add references, that will probably double the processing time and halve the number of rows attainable. You would improve it a lot by requiring [[Module:Wd]] and using its functions directly. I can try to give you example code when I get a chance. |
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: To insert {{tag|br|o}} into a cell, you can just concatenate <code><nowiki>"<br>"</nowiki></code>. I've amended line 60 to include an html break (using "\n" inserts a newline into the ''source wikitext'', not what you want inside a table). |
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: To get the entity-id, you can use the <code>raw</code> parameter. Compare: |
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: <code><nowiki>{{wikidata|property|Q26547186|P1435}}</nowiki></code> → {{wikidata|property|Q26547186|P1435}} |
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: <code><nowiki>{{wikidata|property|raw|Q26547186|P1435}}</nowiki></code> → {{wikidata|property|raw|Q26547186|P1435}} |
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: which is {{q|Q15700834}}. You can make your choice of colour from that. |
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: Coincidentally, I've been working with {{u|MSGJ}} to create generic table rows using a new module [[Module:Wikidata table]]. It won't do all of the customisation that you've built into your module, so I don't suggest replacing it, but it can generate the sort of tables that are commonly used in list articles directly from Wikidata. The idea is to allow non-Lua programmers to leverage the speed and functionality of a module for many common lists. Here's an example, using your data: |
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!scope="col" | Name |
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!scope="col" | Location |
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!scope="col" | Architect |
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!scope="col" | Heritage designation<br>(Date of listing) |
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!scope="col" | Notes |
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!scope="col" | Grid ref<br>Geo-coordinates |
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!scope="col" | Image |
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!scope="col" | Entry number |
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{{Wdtable row |pids=P131, P580, P84, P1435/P580, P1, P613+P625, P18, P1216, P373 |qid=Q26547186 |c6=notes for Woodsley Terrace}} |
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{{Wdtable row |pids=P131, P580, P84, P1435/P580, P1, P613+P625, P18, P1216, P373 |qid=Q17533992 |c6=Roger Stevens Building}} |
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It's a work in progress and needs to recognise that Commons category should be urlencoded before being linked. It's easy to create a sub-template like {{t|Wdtable row/lighthouse}} to save having to type the list of properties each time. You can see it used in [[List of lighthouses in England]] and that might give you some ideas. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 17:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:that's really helpful, thanks. An example of requiring module:WD would be useful as I'm still finding my feet (very slowly) into the LUA coding so require etc are still mostly a mystery to me. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 17:36, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:: {{re|Nthep}} I've made a demo module at [[Module:Sandbox/RexxS/Wd]] and put its output along with comparisons with the equivalent {{tl|wikidata}} calls at its talk page [[Module talk:Sandbox/RexxS/Wd]]. See if that gives you sufficient idea. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 21:40, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::Again, thanks for the guidance. I've done some tidying up and although I'm sure it can be drastically improved I'm ok with it. I ever managed to work out some SQL to populate it with. One last question (for the time being anyway) - is there a way to return a site link. For example [[:wikidata:Q7432461]] has a sitelink to the WP article [[School of Geography, University of Leeds]]. I can't see any property value associated with the sitelink. The idea is to use the WD label unless there is a WP article in which case I'd link to the WP article. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 20:48, 22 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::: {{re|Nthep}} You've done a good job, I've been following your module sandbox and it looks absolutely fine. The function you want in Lua is <code><nowiki>mw.wikibase.getSitelink("Q7432461")</nowiki></code>, but you might want to look at [[Module:Wikidata table]] lines 179-203, the _getLink function for code that will return a complete wiki-link from the entity-id (qid), wherever possible. The display returned from the function matches the capitalisation of the ''label'' (sitelinks are always capitalised). You're always free to re-use any code I write and there's no attribution required. Cheers --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 22:00, 22 February 2021 (UTC) |
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{{outdent|4}} Hi again, still progressing and refining this module now at [[Module:Wdtablerow/listed buildings]]. A couple of questions: |
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# Lua syntax is <code>not A and not B</code> the same as <code>not (A and B)</code> ? |
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# <s>There's a WD item that has two values for property P84. My code as it stands picks up just the first, how do I pick up both (all) instances of a property?</s> |
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Thanks again. (PS no rush if the arbcom case is occupying your time) [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 18:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:You might consider asking further questions at [[WT:Lua]]. Re Q1: no. In <code>not A and not B</code> each <code>not</code> has a high precedence so it is <code>(not A) and (not B)</code> which is <code>not (A or B)</code> although exactly what that means in Lua would need careful thought since only <code>false</code> and <code>nil</code> are regarded as false. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 23:59, 27 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Strike second question, I think I've worked it out. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 21:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC) |
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== Arbitration notice == |
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You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#RexxS]] and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration guide|guide to arbitration]] and the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Arbitration proceedings|Arbitration Committee's procedures]] may be of use. |
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Thanks,<!-- Template:Arbcom notice --> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 14:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC) |
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: I've opened an RfC at [[Wikipedia talk:General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 #RfC on use of COVID-19 editnotice]] to settle the question "Should admins have the ability to place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions?" That should throw some light on the issues. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS#top|talk]]) 19:23, 24 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Thank you for <nowiki>{{User QAIbox/auto|years=Six}}</nowiki> which I call daily, several times. I'd like to control that the right image is not forced below something else on the right, such as an archive box. What can I do to avoid a separation of header and image in such cases. Anybody? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:35, 23 October 2021 (UTC) |
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If you look [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1009012682 at my talk today] you see a box on top with the DYK for [[Wilhelm Knabe]]. I'd like him to look "in", so would like a way to have the image box left, {{tl|user QAIbox}} while the default should be right. Also: the box "disturbs" indenting, - any help for that? |
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:Hello, [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda]]. As I thought about this question it reminded me of another question you asked (in March, as it turns out), because I thought I remembered [[Special:Diff/1012976359|answering you]]. Although the questions are actually somewhat different, the conclusion is, I fear, the same, as is the explanation. {{User QAIbox/auto}} is implemented as an infobox, which is designed to (adamantly) be on the right (which puts it below any other elements trying to adamantly do the same thing). I know of no way to fix this, other than to rewrite or replace QAIbox. Sorry, but maybe somebody else stalking this page can help you more. <small>(Edited)</small><i>— [[User:JohnFromPinckney|JohnFromPinckney]] ([[User talk:JohnFromPinckney|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/JohnFromPinckney|edits]])</i> 00:35, 24 October 2021 (UTC) |
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: Thank you, answered, and sorry I didn't remember March. What I do is adamantly place a "clear" template before the QAIbox template if I see a right TOC or similar stuff. In the longer run - and I had hoped for help by RexxS - I want to no longer send the reminders manually. My idea is to send one for ten years (with a different image, not as large as for nine years), which produces the option of being notified in future years or not. In a longer run, all reminders might be sent automatically, and what would that take? Brainstorming. I miss RexxS much. And LouisAlain. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:16, 24 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::The automatic sending sounds like a neat idea, and I think it's a job for [[Wikipedia:Bots|a bot]], which is something I've never worked with. I've never even requested a bot run, but {{em|you}} could. Got to [[Wikipedia:Bot requests]] and click the "Make a new request" button to add your request to the list. <i>— [[User:JohnFromPinckney|JohnFromPinckney]] ([[User talk:JohnFromPinckney|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/JohnFromPinckney|edits]])</i> 16:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::: Good idea but would need preparation, for example by a better table, and probably some eyes on how it would be useful. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::: Working on the better table. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC) |
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== Arbitration Case Opened == |
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You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS]]. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Evidence]]. '''Please add your evidence by March 13, 2021, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Workshop]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]]. For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:SQL|<span style="font-size:7pt;color: #fff;background:#900;border:2px solid #999">SQL</span>]][[User talk:SQL|<sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query me!</sup>]] 04:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC) |
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YGM. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 05:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::Oh Dear, one turns ones back for five minutes and you all get into all sorts of ridiculous predicaments. I was going to make a statement in your defence, but the opining Arbs all seem to be beyond my ken. Where on earth have they all come from? I suppose it’s connected with the schools all being currently closed. It’s a pity because I have vast experience of trumped up incivility cases. Anyhow, I can only point you in the direction of this: [[User:Giano/On civility & Wikipedia in general|coping with idiots]]. It’s very old, but I think you’ll find the types of Wikipedians still prevail. What a nuisance for you, but I’ve no doubt you’ll keep smiling through. Don’t laugh too much though, it can make people look a little simple, or like an American with newly bleached teeth - why do they do that to themselves? I see Trump has popped up again, he’ll probably start editing Wikipedia now he has the time, if he’s not already. What a world! <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Giano|<font color="blue">Giano</font>]]</span> [[User talk:Giano|'''(talk)''']] 20:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:::Trump's got no Wikipedian editing career; he wouldn't know what a reliable source was if one came up from behind and shouted "boo". [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 13:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC) |
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== LocalPunk == |
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In blocking {{u|LocalPunk}}, you prevented him from editing [[Autisim]], but not [[Autism]]. Maybe you should fix the error? [[Special:Contributions/Chicdat|🐔]] [[User:Chicdat|Chicdat]] <sup>''<font face="Times New Roman">[[User talk:Chicdat|Bawk to me!]]</font>''</sup> 11:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC) |
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: He is not around. Please find someone else. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::I took care of it. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 14:44, 2 March 2021 (UTC). |
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::: Thank you, Bish. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC) |
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==A rather neat solution== |
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[[File:Catania Festa S.Agata CANDELORA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|St Agatha of Sicily]] |
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As you probably know, I don’t normally hold with Papist claptrap, Henry VIII was one of my childhood hero’s, but my nephew assures me that praying to the Blessed Saint [[Agatha of Sicily]] solves most problems including violent eruptions and whatnot. Funny woman if you ask me, it’s all very well making great value out of virginity; nymphomaniac I expect, they always find religion, anyway, I’m digressing. Apparently you pray to her, and your enemies are immediately swamped in molten lava and are vaporised, then their neighbourhood is swallowed by an earthquake. Quite a neat solution, one can’t help but admire Sicilians. [[User:The Lady Catherine de Burgh|The Lady Catherine de Burgh]] ([[User talk:The Lady Catherine de Burgh|talk]]) 21:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::She doesn't seem to work for losing weight though. I suppose you can't ask for everything. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 22:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:::''//[[User:El C/Buck Flower (security guard)|Buck Flower]] makes an inappropriate pass at the Lady, while at the same time, ducking from Bishzilla's wrath (yes, he is that versatile!).'' [[User:El_C|El_C]] 17:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::::*Never mock the power of the Catholic saints! Do you think I would be the highly respected elder statesman of Wikipedia without them? Everything I am, I owe to the blessed [[Dymphna|Saint Dymphna]]. Whose page tells me has her sacred shrine in [[Massillon, Ohio]]. Which begs the curious question: what the fuck was she doing there? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Giano|<font color="blue">Giano</font>]]</span> [[User talk:Giano|'''(talk)''']] 20:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::::*:Me? Erm, I mean, ''Mr. Flower?'' '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fgCqauP7YA Never!]''' Also, joy for a [[User:Giano|Giano]] sighting! I feel like a birdwatcher when they come across a most rare and beautiful bird. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 20:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::::*:{{replyto|Giano}} She's Irish, and they are ''everywhere'', even Ohio. There are more Irish outside Ireland than inside: well-known fact. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 13:28, 5 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::::*::The blessed and much revered Santa Dymphna (of blessed memory) is Sicilian! Just because every USA President likes to claim some tenuous ancestry to Ireland, doesn’t mean Catholic saints have to too. Much as it pains me to point this out, Catholic saints are not inclined to spend their vacations in Ohio, wherever that is! <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Giano|<font color="blue">Giano</font>]]</span> [[User talk:Giano|'''(talk)''']] 22:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::::*:::Her Wikipedia page says {{tq|According to Christian tradition, St. Dymphna was born in [[Ireland]] in the 7th century. Dymphna's father Damon was a petty king of [[Kingdom of Oriel|Oriel]].}} - no mention of Sicily. Maybe it was vandalised? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the laugh![[User:Littleolive oil|Littleolive oil]] ([[User talk:Littleolive oil|talk]]) 22:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::You’ll claiming next that Don Corleone’s middle name was Patrick. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Giano|<font color="blue">Giano</font>]]</span> [[User talk:Giano|'''(talk)''']] 17:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC) |
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I am '''horrified''', simply '''''horrified''''', to see that so many of you have commented in this section without any one of you calling out on [[User:The Lady Catherine de Burgh|Lady de Burgh]] for "Henry VIII was one of my childhood hero’s". At what kind of school did she learn English? I mean, that is not grammatically complete, as it doesn't specify one of her childhood hero's ''what''. One of her childhood hero's ancestors? One of her childhood hero's worst enemies? One of her childhood hero's ex-boyfriends? One of her childhood hero's socks? Hmmph. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 22:16, 6 March 2021 (UTC) |
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== WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - March 2021 == |
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== Help pls == |
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== Hoping you will come back == |
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You've helped me before with a template issue I had and so I'm hoping you can help again. {{t|Pete Buttigieg series}} is causing the articles it's transcluded into to have an extra blank line at the top of the page. Could you figure out what's causing it? [[User:Bait30|<span style='color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;'><b> Bait30 </b></span>]] [[User Talk:Bait30|<sup><span style='color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;'><b>''Talk 2 me pls''?</b></span></sup>]] 05:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC) |
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: [[User:Bait30|Bait30]], sorry and sad: he is not around. Look around. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:47, 7 March 2021 (UTC) |
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RexxS, I sincerely hope that you will come back to Wikipedia. The very significant good things that you have done for the project, for which you deserve abundant thanks, really have very little to do with adminship, and much more to do with what you have to offer as the person you are. Please take as much time as feels right, but when you are ready, I hope to see you back here again. --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 23:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Sadly, that seems most unlikely. Wikipedia gets to keep the editors it deserves. What passes for Arbs these days, will realise, if and when they grow up, that “what goes around comes around,” which no doubt they will think is a Justin Timberlake song. Assuming one cares, it’s really quite concerning. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Giano|<span style="color:blue;">Giano</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Giano|'''(talk)''']] 00:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*I dunno what to say, RexxS. Others will come here and say it for me. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 01:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*[[File:SMirC-cry.svg|x20px|;,(]] [[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"><small>Atsme</small></span>]] [[User talk:Atsme|💬]] [[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]] 03:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*I'm very much saddened to find out what's happened here. Please know that I deeply appreciated your accessibility work and advocacy over the years. It was also great to get the chance to meet you in person at Wikimania back in 2012. I wish you the best for whatever you decide to do in the future. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 07:12, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Such a disappointing outcome, but totally expected from that [[kangaroo court]]. You've been a great editor and hopefully at some point you'll be back helping fix the accessibility issue on here. [[User:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b>]][[User talk:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#000000">2302</b>]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302|talk)]] 09:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Come back when you're ready. Being an admin is a worthless, thankless, pointless overhead on improving Wikipedia. The place is worse off without you. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] <small>([[User talk:The Rambling Man|Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!]])</small> 09:58, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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* Quoted from [[User talk:Antandrus#February flowers 2|Antandrus]]: "May our lives be about kindness. ... You know what I like most about Wikipedia, ultimately? It gives stuff away for free. All our little ego-battles blow away in the wind. They're nothing. The articles remain." (February 2021) - [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#RexxS|My expectation for your return is slim.]] Why would you? I said before this last ego-battle that it wouldn't improve kindness, nor an article. So I'm [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&oldid=1014354366 with Bish here]. See also, [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2015/05/26/scuba-diving-on-wikipedia/ for diving in]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*I...was not expecting this. :( I hope you come back. Been fortunate to interact with you in person and I know what a great person and fantastic editor you are. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 10:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*I'm not happy about this. Yesterday I was improving [[Rocky Mount Instruments]], thinking "This could do with an infobox to be consistent with similar articles, what's the best one to use and how should I mark it up. I'll ask .... oh wait, I can't, he's left". :-( I don't mind Arbcom trying out new things to make the overall arbitration experience better, but not putting ProcrastinatingReader as a party to the case was a major error, as it gives people the impression they can now dig up dirt on admins they don't like and haul them off to Arbcom without fear of boomerangs. And I don't even think [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ritchie333&diff=1010455949&oldid=1010454418 PR wanted this, anyway]. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 12:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Yes, of course. Not holding my breath, though.... [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 13:36, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Take care. [[User:PackMecEng|PackMecEng]] ([[User talk:PackMecEng|talk]]) 14:19, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Wishing you the best - and I completely understand why you don't come back if you don't - nobody should ''ever'' have to be dragged through what you were and you will be missed. I'll do my best to try and keep editing because I don't think you'd want people to leave over your treatment. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez ([[User:Berchanhimez|User]]/[[User talk:Berchanhimez|say hi!]]) 14:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*I do so hope that we shall see you restored to us. You really must not take these things too much to heart. The world is run by some very sad people, one just has to rise above. When one obstacle pops up, one just finds a way of overcoming it. [[User:The Lady Catherine de Burgh|The Lady Catherine de Burgh]] ([[User talk:The Lady Catherine de Burgh|talk]]) 21:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Much has been said which I cannot phrase any better. When and if you return, it will not only be appreciated by fellow editors who understand what value is yours to add to the encyclopaedia, but also by its readers, unbeknownst of what goes on within. Peace, RexxS. —[[User:Sluzzelin|Sluzzelin]] [[User talk:Sluzzelin|<small>talk</small>]] 23:07, 27 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Miss your level head and helpful guidance. You are missed and I hope you will return soon. The ArbCom case was a complete mess and there was absolutely no rhyme or reason to it. [[User:Montanabw|<span style="color: #006600;">Montanabw</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 07:22, 28 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*And ''that's'' why I don't like ArbCom. [[Special:Contributions/Chicdat|🐔]] [[User:Chicdat|Chicdat]] <sup>''<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">[[User talk:Chicdat|Bawk to me!]]</span>''</sup> 10:29, 28 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*So sorry it has gone this way. I hope we see you back again. Meanwhile stay safe. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 15:15, 28 March 2021 (UTC) |
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* There was a time, some years ago, when I thought that the arbitration committee, while not perfect, was substantially a constructive and reasonable group of people, doing on the whole a good job. However, times move on, and there is a turnover of members of the committee, and over the last few years they have, in my opinion, become more and more a bunch of useless fools. Maybe not yet all of them deserve that description, but any exceptions there may be are gradually disappearing. The RexxS case is just one more nail in the coffin of the respect that I once had for the arbitration committee. Stupid. Stupid. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 19:49, 28 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*I'm also sorry about the whole thing, but would like to remind you that most productive editors aren't admins and don't need to be. As an admin or not, it doesn't affect my view that you did a lot of useful work and still could if you decided to edit again. In any case, thank you for your contributions and I hope to see you around in the future. Meanwhile, have a happy break, —[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]] – 23:07, 28 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Very sad to see this whole business. You are missed. [[User:SlimVirgin|SarahSV]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</sup></small> 01:38, 29 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*I wish you happiness whether here or somewhere else. [[User:Littleolive oil|Littleolive oil]] ([[User talk:Littleolive oil|talk]]) 03:22, 29 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*I can't say it better than [[User:JBW|JBW]]. Getting rid of one of our most dedicated and most valuable contributors and educators, for pushing back against individuals stubbornly refusing to adhere to consensus, is one of the most damaging things ArbCom has done for some time. RexxS, you've done far more for this project than most of those clowns will ever do in their lifetimes, and you certainly have my thanks for that. [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 11:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*Yeah, we need people here who make things better - like {{u|RexxS}}. As Churchill wrote, sometimes it's a matter of KBO (for the greater good). [[User:Alexbrn|Alexbrn]] ([[User talk:Alexbrn|talk]]) 17:23, 29 March 2021 (UTC) |
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*In the days since the ArbCom case closed, multiple members of ArbCom have, themselves, drawn attention for having done various things that were ill-considered and, arguably, not the best use of admin privileges. Oh, the irony! I hope that RexxS has the occasion to look in here, and see that. Maybe, some utopian day, Wikipedia will come to learn that everyone loses their cool on occasion, and ''that'' is not sufficient reason to make a federal case out of it. It's sufficient reason to calm the f—k down. But that probably won't happen. In any case, I think that recent events say more about other people, ''a lot'' of other people, than they do about RexxS. --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 17:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC) |
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* Hope we'll see you back soon, RexxS. You are one of the good guys around here. — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 14:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC) |
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* Sorry to see this, You were a great admin and didn't deserve this. I hope you'll come back one day, In the meantime take care and I wish you all the very best. –[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color:blue;">'''Davey'''</span><span style="color:orange;">'''2010'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color:navy;">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 10:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC) |
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* What a shame. Now, I can only recommend you to drop the negative thoughts, and then, focus on enjoying, relaxing and getting comfy, rather than trying to keep that attitude when it comes fixing others' wrongs, let alone [[Runglish]] tier typos. By the way; as promised (in COVID Positive section), I took 2 Gam-COVID-Vac jabs before 2021 started. I also managed to quit coffee addiction somehow. But! As for the possible reasons... I remember the heated discussions in [[Gam-COVID-Vac]] on Fall 2020 and I feel ''comme ci comme ca'' about the de-adminization, to be honest. |
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** ''Rex'', you indeed was ''X-S''essive a little: you showed an astronomical amount of determination to fix others' wrongs you have been showing before falling ill of COVID. I mean, you even had lengthy discussions on mere "a" vs "the" articles, on whether one should say "a spokesperson" or "the spokesperson" and such back then; that's a lotta energy you have been spending; let alone telling me and Motin how annoying WP:IDHT is. |
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Just treat this crisis as an opportunity to take a rest from many annoying accounties, and, plz, take it easy. [[User:Uchyot|Uchyot]] ([[User talk:Uchyot|talk]]) 12:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC) |
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*I have not clocked whatever it was that led RexxS to leave Wikipedia – yet another nasty ''ad hominen'' attack of the type that has driven so many top-flight editors away? – but whatever it was, I should like to add a belated comment that I found Rex thoughtful, helpful and kind and though we didn't agree about everything I shall miss him, as will so many other editors, as seen above. Please come back! '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Tim riley|<span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span>]][[User talk:Tim riley|<span style="color:#848484"> talk</span>]]</span>''' 20:44, 6 May 2021 (UTC) |
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*:{{ping|Tim riley}} this particular ad hominem attack came from [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS|from on high]]. A very unfortunate business, but I remain hopeful that RexxS will be back to resume what he does best before too long. — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 20:56, 6 May 2021 (UTC) |
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*::Good grief! How wearingly familiar! Like Fram, Kudpung and other much needed star editor/admins felled by the [[Committee of Public Safety]]. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Tim riley|<span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span>]][[User talk:Tim riley|<span style="color:#848484"> talk</span>]]</span>''' 21:13, 6 May 2021 (UTC) |
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*::: yes, {{diff|User talk:Hammersoft|1008526593|1008526056|see}}? "If ArbCom want to review my administrative actions seriously and dispassionately, I'm willing to discuss and try to learn any lessons. But if they want to simply provide a forum for everybody who has ever disagreed with me to sling mud, and then take on the role of civility police, it's not a game I'm willing to play." --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC) |
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*:::: What a shame. Yet another case of the ArbCom destroying an amazing editor. I'm seeing a pattern form with regard to these cases. I have read enough of them to know that not a single person involved in any of them can claim the high road. I've even had some "discussions" with a few involved in this case (not about this case) and can say, unequivocally, they think they are the Universe's gift to this Earth and nothing matters more than their own ego. I shall leave them unnamed because my intention is not to attack them, only write the truth as it is observed through actions. --[[User:Tsistunagiska|<span style="color:#b76e79">'''A'''</span><span style="color:#be4f60">'''Rose'''</span>]][[User talk:Tsistunagiska|<span style="color:#b87333">'''Wolf'''</span>]] 13:49, 7 May 2021 (UTC) |
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*Just found out you're no longer editing. Do whatever's best for you, but you're very much missed; you're one of the most knowledgeable and helpful people here. I hope to see you here again one day. All the best. [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] ([[User_talk:Mike Christie|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie|contribs]] - [[User:Mike Christie/Reference library|library]]) 14:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC) |
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*It was established on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Deceased_Wikipedians&oldid=1097060097|this permalink]] that Anthony Appleyard, who was with RexxS in Manchester ([https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Doug_Taylor#/media/File:Meetup_Manchester6.jpg per this photo]), was no longer with us since February 2022. I just hope the same has not happened to RexxS here at this moment. [[User:Iggy the Swan|Iggy]] ([[User talk:Iggy the Swan#top|Swan]]) ([[Special:Contribs/Iggy the Swan|Contribs]]) 11:14, 8 July 2022 (UTC) |
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*Just stopping by to say Hi after editing one of the articles you started in the dim and distant past. Just in case you stop by sometime to catch up on anything. Cheers, · · · [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter Southwood]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 15:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
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St Lucy's day for you
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Bishonen (talk) 14:59, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Impact
[edit]Thank you for your impact | |
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in a reasoned approach, fresh wind to an emotional topic |
(repeated from User talk:RexxS/Archive 40#Impact)
I wanted to give you this for your passion for accessibility. I wrote a little article today (to nourish and grow) about the new ways, and wish you all the best for yours. Miss your help, and - more - you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- I hope User:Gerda Arendt doesn't mind me adding to this - in real life, I have a passion for accessibility features when they are feasible - unlike most who seem to only "like" them when they are easy and cheap. When I began on Wikipedia, I didn't realize just how much thought went into accessibility on Wikipedia - but I still remember you introducing me to WP:DTT which I attempt to follow completely in articles and everywhere else where feasible now. Sure, it takes more time to follow DTT guidance, and it takes more time to attempt to comply with MOS:LISTGAP and other guidelines, but that time is worth it because it is feasible to do so (i.e. doesn't require intensive coding of each instance). It still pains me to think that some people may be virtually unable to contribute to talk pages and articles because they would need to deal with sloppy code which is unintelligible to screen readers and other assistive software/devices... but I do my best now to fix problems when I see them and can. I worry that if we lose you permanently we may lose one of the most accessibility-focused administrators on Wikipedia - but after having seen the arbitration case and how it seems that some negative things are being given undue weight given all the good. In my opinion, people are treating you worse than the AstraZeneca vaccine is in some media right now - and that is an issue in which life/death can be invoked - yet they're still treating you worse for things much more minor. If you happen to see this, please just know that your dedication to accessibility has left a mark on me for the duration of my Wikipedia editing - since you showed me WP:DTT I've actively searched for accessibility guidance on this website and attempted to assist with more - and intend to continue to do so. Regards -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 03:03, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I would also like to say that Rexx's accessibility work has been great. He did a really good job of explaining accessibility and alt image texts at a London meetup a few months ago, which encouraged me to go back through articles I'd create to add alt text for accessibility. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Bish, please tell us the secret of how to make a thread not fall victim to archiving. Newcomers: look in the archives, especially User talk:RexxS/Archive 65#LocalPunk and the complete User talk:RexxS/Archive 66. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- I would also like to say that Rexx's accessibility work has been great. He did a really good job of explaining accessibility and alt image texts at a London meetup a few months ago, which encouraged me to go back through articles I'd create to add alt text for accessibility. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
May corner
[edit]Today: Thomas Fritsch, the German character voice of Diego in Ice Age. I wonder how I could make my 12 calendar pics change automatically when the new month comes, such in my edit notice. - As said before, I wrote Vertraut den neuen Wegen thinking of you, RexxS, and was pleased to hear it sung again in a livestreamed service, opening the service opening the Ökumenischer Kirchentag in Frankfurt, open air, with the skyline in the background. It seems the melody of the year, with "O komm, du Geist der Wahrheit" (Now come, you Spirit of Truth) sung to the same. Today is Pentecost Monday here, traditionally the day for ecumenical togetherness. Miss you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
See my talk today, - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:37, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
June corner
[edit]Thinking of you, with some impressions of places, flowers and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
... and of User:SlimVirgin, whose last reply to me was in a thread Green for hope --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
July corner
[edit]Still thinking of you, and these flowers go well with the image on SlimVirgin's user page. I also think about making the template reminding of Precious a bot, in order of surviving me. How would I code questions such as:
- Which users have an anniversary of the award, and how many years? Then for each one:
- Did a user edit during the last year? (if not, no reminder necessary.)
- Is the user banned or blocked? (if yes, possibly better no reminder, although I know cases where I'd defiantly do it anyway.)
- Did the user opt-out being reminded? (which would have to be coded, and while some openly say so, some show just by deleting so it should be somewhat invisible/private)
I guess we'd need a better organisation of a table. Just thinking ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Music happens. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
More music: 2 songs, the morning song - about rising from being down, in more than one sense - is a GA, - there should be more given my initials, but I also want to care for articles of those who recently died (now Esther Béjarano), and psalms in memory of Yoninah, - more missing than there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:02, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
28 August
[edit]Today, Teresa Żylis-Gara, the second soprano to impress me on stage, died, - long live the memory of her beautiful singing, remembered with thanks. 28 August 2013 was a special concert day: look. After Hillbillyholiday gave me a tree. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Gerda's September corner
[edit]Omas gegen Rechts - enjoy strong women! I thought of Yoninah on the first day of Rosh Hashanah. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
today: the day of bold red and black, for Dante who died 700 years ago, and Peter Fleischmann who died recently, leaving us films full of vision. Dante: just heard Inferno, imagined by a woman, the main character both speaking and singing with an inner 4-part voice! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
On Peace Day, I thought of your User:RexxS/Infobox factors and wonder how you'd apply them to Mahler's Eighth Symphony. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
October songs
[edit]Thank you for {{User QAIbox/auto|years=Six}} which I call daily, several times. I'd like to control that the right image is not forced below something else on the right, such as an archive box. What can I do to avoid a separation of header and image in such cases. Anybody? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Gerda. As I thought about this question it reminded me of another question you asked (in March, as it turns out), because I thought I remembered answering you. Although the questions are actually somewhat different, the conclusion is, I fear, the same, as is the explanation.
is implemented as an infobox, which is designed to (adamantly) be on the right (which puts it below any other elements trying to adamantly do the same thing). I know of no way to fix this, other than to rewrite or replace QAIbox. Sorry, but maybe somebody else stalking this page can help you more. (Edited)— JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 00:35, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Precious years! - Thank you, answered, and sorry I didn't remember March. What I do is adamantly place a "clear" template before the QAIbox template if I see a right TOC or similar stuff. In the longer run - and I had hoped for help by RexxS - I want to no longer send the reminders manually. My idea is to send one for ten years (with a different image, not as large as for nine years), which produces the option of being notified in future years or not. In a longer run, all reminders might be sent automatically, and what would that take? Brainstorming. I miss RexxS much. And LouisAlain. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- The automatic sending sounds like a neat idea, and I think it's a job for a bot, which is something I've never worked with. I've never even requested a bot run, but you could. Got to Wikipedia:Bot requests and click the "Make a new request" button to add your request to the list. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 16:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Good idea but would need preparation, for example by a better table, and probably some eyes on how it would be useful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Working on the better table. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- The automatic sending sounds like a neat idea, and I think it's a job for a bot, which is something I've never worked with. I've never even requested a bot run, but you could. Got to Wikipedia:Bot requests and click the "Make a new request" button to add your request to the list. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 16:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Hoping you will come back
[edit]RexxS, I sincerely hope that you will come back to Wikipedia. The very significant good things that you have done for the project, for which you deserve abundant thanks, really have very little to do with adminship, and much more to do with what you have to offer as the person you are. Please take as much time as feels right, but when you are ready, I hope to see you back here again. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sadly, that seems most unlikely. Wikipedia gets to keep the editors it deserves. What passes for Arbs these days, will realise, if and when they grow up, that “what goes around comes around,” which no doubt they will think is a Justin Timberlake song. Assuming one cares, it’s really quite concerning. Giano (talk) 00:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- I dunno what to say, RexxS. Others will come here and say it for me. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Atsme 💬 📧 03:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm very much saddened to find out what's happened here. Please know that I deeply appreciated your accessibility work and advocacy over the years. It was also great to get the chance to meet you in person at Wikimania back in 2012. I wish you the best for whatever you decide to do in the future. Graham87 07:12, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Such a disappointing outcome, but totally expected from that kangaroo court. You've been a great editor and hopefully at some point you'll be back helping fix the accessibility issue on here. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Come back when you're ready. Being an admin is a worthless, thankless, pointless overhead on improving Wikipedia. The place is worse off without you. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:58, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Quoted from Antandrus: "May our lives be about kindness. ... You know what I like most about Wikipedia, ultimately? It gives stuff away for free. All our little ego-battles blow away in the wind. They're nothing. The articles remain." (February 2021) - My expectation for your return is slim. Why would you? I said before this last ego-battle that it wouldn't improve kindness, nor an article. So I'm with Bish here. See also, for diving in. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- I...was not expecting this. :( I hope you come back. Been fortunate to interact with you in person and I know what a great person and fantastic editor you are. Acalamari 10:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not happy about this. Yesterday I was improving Rocky Mount Instruments, thinking "This could do with an infobox to be consistent with similar articles, what's the best one to use and how should I mark it up. I'll ask .... oh wait, I can't, he's left". :-( I don't mind Arbcom trying out new things to make the overall arbitration experience better, but not putting ProcrastinatingReader as a party to the case was a major error, as it gives people the impression they can now dig up dirt on admins they don't like and haul them off to Arbcom without fear of boomerangs. And I don't even think PR wanted this, anyway. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, of course. Not holding my breath, though.... Johnbod (talk) 13:36, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Take care. PackMecEng (talk) 14:19, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Wishing you the best - and I completely understand why you don't come back if you don't - nobody should ever have to be dragged through what you were and you will be missed. I'll do my best to try and keep editing because I don't think you'd want people to leave over your treatment. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 14:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- I do so hope that we shall see you restored to us. You really must not take these things too much to heart. The world is run by some very sad people, one just has to rise above. When one obstacle pops up, one just finds a way of overcoming it. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 21:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Much has been said which I cannot phrase any better. When and if you return, it will not only be appreciated by fellow editors who understand what value is yours to add to the encyclopaedia, but also by its readers, unbeknownst of what goes on within. Peace, RexxS. —Sluzzelin talk 23:07, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Miss your level head and helpful guidance. You are missed and I hope you will return soon. The ArbCom case was a complete mess and there was absolutely no rhyme or reason to it. Montanabw(talk) 07:22, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- And that's why I don't like ArbCom. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:29, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- So sorry it has gone this way. I hope we see you back again. Meanwhile stay safe. PamD 15:15, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- There was a time, some years ago, when I thought that the arbitration committee, while not perfect, was substantially a constructive and reasonable group of people, doing on the whole a good job. However, times move on, and there is a turnover of members of the committee, and over the last few years they have, in my opinion, become more and more a bunch of useless fools. Maybe not yet all of them deserve that description, but any exceptions there may be are gradually disappearing. The RexxS case is just one more nail in the coffin of the respect that I once had for the arbitration committee. Stupid. Stupid. JBW (talk) 19:49, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm also sorry about the whole thing, but would like to remind you that most productive editors aren't admins and don't need to be. As an admin or not, it doesn't affect my view that you did a lot of useful work and still could if you decided to edit again. In any case, thank you for your contributions and I hope to see you around in the future. Meanwhile, have a happy break, —PaleoNeonate – 23:07, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Very sad to see this whole business. You are missed. SarahSV (talk) 01:38, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I wish you happiness whether here or somewhere else. Littleolive oil (talk) 03:22, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I can't say it better than JBW. Getting rid of one of our most dedicated and most valuable contributors and educators, for pushing back against individuals stubbornly refusing to adhere to consensus, is one of the most damaging things ArbCom has done for some time. RexxS, you've done far more for this project than most of those clowns will ever do in their lifetimes, and you certainly have my thanks for that. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, we need people here who make things better - like RexxS. As Churchill wrote, sometimes it's a matter of KBO (for the greater good). Alexbrn (talk) 17:23, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- In the days since the ArbCom case closed, multiple members of ArbCom have, themselves, drawn attention for having done various things that were ill-considered and, arguably, not the best use of admin privileges. Oh, the irony! I hope that RexxS has the occasion to look in here, and see that. Maybe, some utopian day, Wikipedia will come to learn that everyone loses their cool on occasion, and that is not sufficient reason to make a federal case out of it. It's sufficient reason to calm the f—k down. But that probably won't happen. In any case, I think that recent events say more about other people, a lot of other people, than they do about RexxS. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Desiderata--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hope we'll see you back soon, RexxS. You are one of the good guys around here. — Amakuru (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry to see this, You were a great admin and didn't deserve this. I hope you'll come back one day, In the meantime take care and I wish you all the very best. –Davey2010Talk 10:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- What a shame. Now, I can only recommend you to drop the negative thoughts, and then, focus on enjoying, relaxing and getting comfy, rather than trying to keep that attitude when it comes fixing others' wrongs, let alone Runglish tier typos. By the way; as promised (in COVID Positive section), I took 2 Gam-COVID-Vac jabs before 2021 started. I also managed to quit coffee addiction somehow. But! As for the possible reasons... I remember the heated discussions in Gam-COVID-Vac on Fall 2020 and I feel comme ci comme ca about the de-adminization, to be honest.
- Rex, you indeed was X-Sessive a little: you showed an astronomical amount of determination to fix others' wrongs you have been showing before falling ill of COVID. I mean, you even had lengthy discussions on mere "a" vs "the" articles, on whether one should say "a spokesperson" or "the spokesperson" and such back then; that's a lotta energy you have been spending; let alone telling me and Motin how annoying WP:IDHT is.
Just treat this crisis as an opportunity to take a rest from many annoying accounties, and, plz, take it easy. Uchyot (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have not clocked whatever it was that led RexxS to leave Wikipedia – yet another nasty ad hominen attack of the type that has driven so many top-flight editors away? – but whatever it was, I should like to add a belated comment that I found Rex thoughtful, helpful and kind and though we didn't agree about everything I shall miss him, as will so many other editors, as seen above. Please come back! Tim riley talk 20:44, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Tim riley: this particular ad hominem attack came from from on high. A very unfortunate business, but I remain hopeful that RexxS will be back to resume what he does best before too long. — Amakuru (talk) 20:56, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Good grief! How wearingly familiar! Like Fram, Kudpung and other much needed star editor/admins felled by the Committee of Public Safety. Tim riley talk 21:13, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- yes, see? "If ArbCom want to review my administrative actions seriously and dispassionately, I'm willing to discuss and try to learn any lessons. But if they want to simply provide a forum for everybody who has ever disagreed with me to sling mud, and then take on the role of civility police, it's not a game I'm willing to play." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- What a shame. Yet another case of the ArbCom destroying an amazing editor. I'm seeing a pattern form with regard to these cases. I have read enough of them to know that not a single person involved in any of them can claim the high road. I've even had some "discussions" with a few involved in this case (not about this case) and can say, unequivocally, they think they are the Universe's gift to this Earth and nothing matters more than their own ego. I shall leave them unnamed because my intention is not to attack them, only write the truth as it is observed through actions. --ARoseWolf 13:49, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- yes, see? "If ArbCom want to review my administrative actions seriously and dispassionately, I'm willing to discuss and try to learn any lessons. But if they want to simply provide a forum for everybody who has ever disagreed with me to sling mud, and then take on the role of civility police, it's not a game I'm willing to play." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Good grief! How wearingly familiar! Like Fram, Kudpung and other much needed star editor/admins felled by the Committee of Public Safety. Tim riley talk 21:13, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Tim riley: this particular ad hominem attack came from from on high. A very unfortunate business, but I remain hopeful that RexxS will be back to resume what he does best before too long. — Amakuru (talk) 20:56, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just found out you're no longer editing. Do whatever's best for you, but you're very much missed; you're one of the most knowledgeable and helpful people here. I hope to see you here again one day. All the best. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- It was established on [permalink] that Anthony Appleyard, who was with RexxS in Manchester (per this photo), was no longer with us since February 2022. I just hope the same has not happened to RexxS here at this moment. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 11:14, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Just stopping by to say Hi after editing one of the articles you started in the dim and distant past. Just in case you stop by sometime to catch up on anything. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 15:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Randy in space
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