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[[File:Ambox notice.svg|link=|25px|alt=Information icon]] There is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. [[User:Lukeno94|<span style="color:Navy">Luke</span><span style="color:FireBrick">no</span><span style="color:Green">94</span>]] [[User talk:Lukeno94#top|<i>(tell Luke off here)</i>]] 02:01, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I just had a chance to see what you've done to the high-speed trading, and keeping i one sided to the finacial industry. greak work stalker bo [[User:EllenCT|EllenCT]] ([[User talk:EllenCT|talk]]) 21:43, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
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Please comment on Talk:World Vision International

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Wealth tax

I replied to your question (on my talk page) about my edits on Wealth tax. 01:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok I've finished for the day and done all section moves I expect to do. There's a lot of work to be done to reframe the middle and end of the article as neutral economic analysis instead of political advocacy, but that might take some time and mental energy, so I'll leave it for now.

Ben Arnold (talk) 02:43, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit warring on Economic Growth

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Economic growth. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
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In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount and can lead to a block, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection.

Which three sequences of edits do you think constitute an edit war? I have replaced your deletions and left your new insertions in the article. Please remember to sign your talk page comments with four tildes. EllenCT (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Economic Growth Talk section for POV tag

- a POV tag seems to match there is discussion going on, and I'll ask you to please start a Talk section to match that where you set out the explanation of what the tag is for and beginning a discussion of removing it. Markbassett (talk) 16:40, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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16:47, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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Would you be interested in helping to implement your idea? Go Phightins! 03:37, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Pharmaceutical industry

EllenCT,

I see you've met Jytdog, perhaps more times than you wanted. I ran into him in the editing of Valsartan/sacubitril and some other articles. [34] He seems to have a great love for the pharmaceutical industry and very little tolerance for criticism of his great love. He claimed that Marcia Angell, John Ingelfinger, and Jerome Kassirer (former editors of the New England Journal of Medicine), Richard Horton (editor of the Lancet), Richard Smith (former editor of BMJ), and articles published in those peer-reviewed journals, were all WP:FRINGE because he personally disagreed with their opinion that journal publications by drug companies were "marketing." And he felt free to delete anything that said so. And whenever Jytdog shows up, some "uninvolved" editor like Kingofaces43 shows up to provide Jytdog a consensus and back up his deletions.

Fortunately, I can resist the urge to tell him something that would let him get me on WP:CIVILITY, and I just stick to the facts. My goal is to leave a good written record for the inevitable dispute resolutions.

I am sorry to see that the article Pharmaceutical industry looks like my favorite sweater when the moths got through with it. I might like to work on the article but first we must do something about the vandals who are tearing it up. The ideal would be to attract people from someplace like WP:MEDICINE, so we would at least have people editing it who are neutral and understand what WP:MEDRS and WP:NPOV is.

I read or skim about 10 of the major medical journals every week, so I could contribute with peer-reviewed sources, which to any normal person would be WP:RS. Here's one on industry influence on clinical trials.

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleID=1898873 Industry Collaboration and Randomized Clinical Trial Design and Outcomes Nitin Roper, Nasen Zhang, Deborah Korenstein JAMA Intern Med. 2014;174(10):1695-1696. doi:10.1001/jamainternmed.2014.3590

Here's another:

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2109855 Research Misconduct Identified by the US Food and Drug Administration: Out of Sight, Out of Mind, Out of the Peer-Reviewed Literature Charles Seife, MS JAMA Intern Med. February 09, 2015. doi:10.1001/jamainternmed.2014.7774 [Free full text]

(Even though there was deliberate fraud, leading to prison for 1 investigator, which changed the conclusions of the results, the FDA didn't disclose that fraud to their own advisory committee members, nor did it correct the published conclusions based on that fraud, or publicly disclose the fraud so that the journals could correct the results. Seife lists the excuses the FDA gives for not disclosing fraud.)

Quote: That misconduct happens isn’t shocking. What is: When the FDA finds scientific fraud or misconduct, the agency doesn’t notify the public, the medical establishment, or even the scientific community that the results of a medical experiment are not to be trusted. On the contrary. For more than a decade, the FDA has shown a pattern of burying the details of misconduct. As a result, nobody ever finds out which data is bogus, which experiments are tainted, and which drugs might be on the market under false pretenses. The FDA has repeatedly hidden evidence of scientific fraud not just from the public, but also from its most trusted scientific advisers, even as they were deciding whether or not a new drug should be allowed on the market. Even a congressional panel investigating a case of fraud regarding a dangerous drug couldn't get forthright answers. For an agency devoted to protecting the public from bogus medical science, the FDA seems to be spending an awful lot of effort protecting the perpetrators of bogus science from the public

(This was also published in journalistic form in Slate:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/02/fda_inspections_fraud_fabrication_and_scientific_misconduct_are_hidden_from.single.html Are Your Medications Safe? The FDA buries evidence of fraud in medical trials. My students and I dug it up. By Charles Seife Slate Feb. 9 2015)

These pro-industry edits are going against ongoing articles and mainstream opinion in all the major peer-reviewed journals. --Nbauman (talk) 23:04, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be best to keep discussion of this article on the article Talk Page, so that a broad community of editors can participate. I've copied the parts of this note that do not involve comments about other editors over to that page for that purpose. thanks Formerly 98 (talk) 00:04, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Anti-whistleblower legislation

A tag has been placed on Anti-whistleblower legislation, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Actually, there is a discussion on the Ag-gag talk page & editors are suggesting a redirect to Anti-whistleblower legislation.

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Also, please see my comment on the Ag-gag talk page. (The above is a Twinkle generated message.) Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 05:15, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-whistleblower legislation listed at Redirects for discussion

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Interaction

I note your comments re interaction on the redirects for discussion page. Your comments there and on the RFC (whether or not invited by the bot) are certainly welcome. But how interaction between us impacts the deletion discussions (or RFC) eludes me. (Please note that I initiated the Ag-gag RFC.) Thank you. – S. Rich (talk) 17:47, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:VP(T)

I commented on your question there. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:06, 18 February 2015 (UTC).

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Recent activity at American Left

You might or might not find my userpage User:Flying Jazz amusing, but based on your contribution to the talk page at American Left, I thought you should be aware of it. The relevant activity on the talk page begins at Talk:American_Left#Encyclopedia_of_the_American_Left_2nd_ed._1998_verification_failure_.28use_of_first_edition.27s_preface.29 . Some additional attempts at discussion and actual discussion is on my talk page and at User_talk:Ghostofnemo#Removal_of_correct_citation_of_Buhle_at_American_Left and User_talk:Collect#American_Left_Arbmin_adcom_wikidrama_thing . I freely confess to not knowing what the heck I'm doing. But I seem to be doing something. Flying Jazz (talk) 22:28, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for getting back to me. I share your "opinion that we should point out clearly and repeatedly that both Republicans and Democrats are clearly to the right of the demographic center," and I agree it seems like a minority opinion in the mass media. But I still view it as a neutral POV. With this view, the idea that "the Democratic Party is almost evenly divided between left-of-center liberals and more centrist moderates" seems irrelevant in the lead of an American Left article. I thought that text written in the prefaces to the Encyclopedia of the American Left might hold sway over other editors by serving to dispel disagreements about the scope, lead, and the most important subdivisions of topic. That might be the case in German Wikipedia, and I think it's the case here in science and history articles, but, in politics, perhaps no academic authority can ever hold sway over editors here. This means that even the foundational defining terminology of US politics articles like this one with a potentially ambiguous scope might never be stable. But I respond easily to baiting, I bait other editors myself, I can be sarcastic, and I spend way too much time in talk pages while being a very infrequent (but confident) contributor to actual articles. If the article is improving now, then it's probably best for someone like me to just shut up. But if what I wrote makes sense to you, there may be a real opportunity there at the moment for your NPOV-ish minority opinion to count for a lot. Regardless of whether you agree with my opinions above, I hope you consider contributing to the RfC there. I can't give a recap beyond what I already wrote above. Flying Jazz (talk) 05:22, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate editors who try to take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves. Your comment attempted to serve the reader better than anything I could write. It didn't just address my concerns. It also surpassed them. Thanks for trying! Flying Jazz (talk) 13:32, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa. It looks even more like kabuki theater than usual in that talk page now. My take on what's happening is that I think that nobody is paying attention to your comment about the Democrats because the entire lead and definition and foundation and everything else still seem to be in flux. That seems like an even greater opportunity for you. You're the only rational person there citing sources right now. Check out the last few comments at User_talk:Collect#American_Left_Arbmin_adcom_wikidrama_thing. If you feel like it, maybe you could combine a complete citation of Buhle's prefaces for NPOV ideological scope with your citation for NPOV demographic/population-size scope relative to the two parties, write an NPOV lead, and plop it in the talk page with the references for others to grok at. In a real community of encyclopedia-builders, you would win one for the reader. Teh stoopid may recognize on this one that their POVs are so impossible to reconcile that you'll carry the day. Unusually good things may happen with this article, or at least with the lead. And if they don't, I'm thinking of delivering the entire pretty story of the article's recent history over to Swedish Wikipedia for a good derisive laugh at how much of a failure English Wikipedia has become at depicting US politics. There may be joy in Åarhus. They could come to help out too. Flying Jazz (talk) 07:30, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. Looks like Åarhus is in Denmark. Flying Jazz (talk) 13:44, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean to goad you on, but I think your recent edit [53] is insufficiently bold. On the talk page you wrote "The sentence is not about the U.S. population, it's about the Democratic Party." If you believe that's true then why just tack on another phrase to the sentence? If the Pew Research poll is a primary source and primary sources are a no-no then why not just yank the reference? Make the sentence about the topic of the article instead of the Democratic Party. If policy is on your side then use policy. The sources show that the demographic center is to the left of both Democrats and Republicans. American Left is to the left of the demographic center. Get rid of the POV parts of the lead, justify the edits, and try to create an NPOV lead. I recommend that you reread Buhle's prefaces at Talk:American_Left#Encyclopedia_of_the_American_Left_2nd_ed._1998_verification_failure_.28use_of_first_edition.27s_preface.29 and my statement at [54] because Buhle's encyclopedia prefaces define the term in an ideological sense according to WP:Scope just like your references define the term in a demographic sense. But that's just a recommendation. You sure don't have to let me know about every edit. I'm just a chemistry guy who got sufficiently PO'd by certain editors here to throw some derision around, go to the library and correct one important thing that changed the lead, throw more derision around, run away for 2 years like a drama queen, and now I'm still throwing even more derision around. I won't throw derision your way because you seem to know what you're doing to make the lead more NPOV. OK. Maybe I do mean to goad you on. Flying Jazz (talk) 22:25, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing: I name-dropped you at User_talk:Dairyfarmer777#Don.27t_let_anyone_bother_you_here.2C_including_me.. Flying Jazz (talk) 22:37, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Tech News: 2015-10

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

  • A Lua function to use Wikidata has changed. You need to update the pages that use it. [55]
  • You can use the Content Translation tool on Wikipedia in Uzbek and Minangkabau. You need to enable it in your Beta options.
  • You can now hide banners if you don't have an account. [56] [57]

Software changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 3. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 4 (calendar).
  • You can use the Content Translation tool on Wikipedia in Punjabi and Kyrgyz. You can ask for the tool in other languages.
  • Editing the fake blank line in VisualEditor is now simpler. This change also fixed a few bugs. [58] [59] [60] [61]
  • The TemplateData editor now warns you if a related page already has TemplateData. [62]
  • The TemplateData table now tells you if a template doesn't take any parameters. [63]

Meetings

  • You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 4 at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join technical meetings in France and Mexico this year. You will be able to ask for help if you can't pay yourself. [64]

Future changes

  • You will be able to get a direct link for a section of a page. [65]

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Tech News: 2015-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now create books on almost all wikis. It doesn't work yet on wikis using the language converter. [66] [67]
  • VisualEditor had problems with categories in Safari. It sometimes moved or removed the categories. The issue is now fixed. [68] [69] [70]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 10. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 11 (calendar).
  • In VisualEditor the "Edit beta" button is now called "Edit" on the English Wikipedia. [71] [72]
  • The feedback tool in VisualEditor now looks like the other tools. It also asks for information about your browser to help fix bugs. [73] [74]
  • You now see the VisualEditor toolbar even if the rest of the page is still loading. [75] [76]
  • You now see more information when you edit a link, a reference or other items in VisualEditor. You also see a clearer edit button in those tools. [77] [78]
  • If you use the ContentTranslation tool you now see red links in the list of articles in other languages. The link is red if the article doesn't exist in the language of your options or of your browser. You can translate the article by clicking on the red link.

Meetings

  • You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 11 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join a technical meeting in France in May. You can ask for help if you can't pay yourself. [79]

Future changes

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15:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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WP gender problem

...stalking, tagteams, mansplaining, and the endless accusations that my politics, because they are actually congruent with the demographic center's preferences[5] instead of skewed to the right as the major political parties skew in their desperate attempt to garner campaign contributions from moneyed interests,[6][7][8] are somehow out of the mainstream... I feel bad for you (male editor here), no doubt that women around here experience some rough things due to the presence of immature idiots. --AmaryllisGardener talk 02:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Some women go as far as to use a gender neutral name to "pass" as male...not to mention any names. :-) Have you considered creating a page focused on "hydraulic fracturing and health"? It is still important to get the health info back onto the main page, but might also be good to have a page that discusses the issues more thoroughly and in more detail. I think that in addition to gender bias, the HF page has a "paid editor" problem.66.42.213.180 (talk) 02:55, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hydraulic fracturing#Health risks hasn't gone anywhere. EllenCT (talk) 04:21, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Tech News: 2015-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The servers that resize images are using new software. You should report new problems that you notice with images. [82]
  • You can now see lists of bugs about Commons, Wikisource and Wiktionary. [83]
  • It is now easier to add special characters in VisualEditor. You can edit the list of characters for your wiki. [84] [85]

Problems

  • Wikis were broken for a few minutes on Thursday due to a code error.

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 17. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 18 (calendar).
  • A puzzle piece icon (icon) now shows hidden templates in VisualEditor. You can edit the template by clicking the icon. For example, you can now edit anchor templates. [86] [87]
  • You can now add examples, and details about old parameters, in TemplateData. [88] [89]

Meetings

  • You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 18 at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The list of bad user names on your wiki will no longer work. The global list will replace it. You can ask to add rules for bad user names on Meta. [90] [91]
  • You can comment on how you want to see Wikidata edits in your watchlist on other wikis. [92]
  • The final steps of single user login (SUL) will happen in April. You can see the rules to rename accounts. [93]

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 2

For this month's issue...

Making sense of a lot of data.

Work on our prototype will begin imminently. In the meantime, we have to understand what exactly we're working with. To this end, we generated a list of 71 WikiProjects, based on those brought up on our Stories page and those who had signed up for pilot testing. For those projects where people told stories, we coded statements within those stories to figure out what trends there were in these stories. This approach allowed us to figure out what Wikipedians thought of WikiProjects in a very organic way, with very little by way of a structure. (Compare this to a structured interview, where specific questions are asked and answered.) This analysis was done on 29 stories. Codes were generally classified as "benefits" (positive contributions made by a WikiProject to the editing experience) and "obstacles" (issues posed by WikiProjects, broadly speaking). Codes were generated as I went along, ensuring that codes were as close to the original data as possible. Duplicate appearances of a code for a given WikiProject were removed.

We found 52 "benefit" statements encoded and 34 "obstacle" statements. The most common benefit statement referring to the project's active discussion and participation, followed by statements referring to a project's capacity to guide editor activity, while the most common obstacles made reference to low participation and significant burdens on the part of the project maintainers and leaders. This gives us a sense of WikiProjects' big strength: they bring people together, and can be frustrating to editors when they fail to do so. Meanwhile, it is indeed very difficult to bring editors together on a common interest; in the absence of a highly motivated core of organizers, the technical infrastructure simply isn't there.

We wanted to pair this qualitative study with quantitative analysis of a WikiProject and its "universe" of pages, discussions, templates, and categories. To this end I wrote a script called ProjAnalysis which will, for a given WikiProject page (e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Star Trek) and WikiProject talk-page tag (e.g. Template:WikiProject Star Trek), will give you a list of usernames of people who edited within the WikiProject's space (the project page itself, its talk page, and subpages), and within the WikiProject's scope (the pages tagged by that WikiProject, excluding the WikiProject space pages). The output is an exhaustive list of usernames. We ran the script to analyze our test batch of WikiProjects for edits between March 1, 2014 and February 28, 2015, and we subjected them to further analysis to only include those who made 10+ edits to pages in the projects' scope, those who made 4+ edits to the projects' space, and those who made 10+ edits to pages in scope but not 4+ edits to pages in the projects' space. This latter metric gives us an idea of who is active in a certain subject area of Wikipedia, yet who isn't actively engaging on the WikiProject's pages. This information will help us prioritize WikiProjects for pilot testing, and the ProjAnalysis script in general may have future life as an application that can be used by Wikipedians to learn about who is in their community.

Complementing the above two studies are a design analysis, which summarizes the structure of the different WikiProject spaces in our test batch, and the comprehensive census of bots and tools used to maintain WikiProjects, which will be finished soon. With all of this information, we will have a game plan in place! We hope to begin working with specific WikiProjects soon.

As a couple of asides...

  • Database Reports has existed for several years on Wikipedia to the satisfaction of many, but many of the reports stopped running when the Toolserver was shut off in 2014. However, there is good news: the weekly New WikiProjects and WikiProjects by Changes reports are back, with potential future reports in the future.
  • WikiProject X has an outpost on Wikidata! Check it out. It's not widely publicized, but we are interested in using Wikidata as a potential repository for metadata about WikiProjects, especially for WikiProjects that exist on multiple Wikimedia projects and language editions.

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Tech News: 2015-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 24. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 25 (calendar).
  • The text of a reference is now more visible when you click on it. It has a blue background. Many wikis already have the blue color. Those wikis can now remove it from their CSS page. [94]
  • VisualEditor is now much faster. For many users it is now at least as fast as the wikitext editor. [95] [96] [97]
  • When you add a list of references in VisualEditor, you now see it right away. You can still change its group by editing it. [98]

Meetings

  • You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 25 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Talk pages using "LiquidThreads" on mediawiki.org will soon use the new system. [99]

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15:09, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2015-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now hide site banners even if you don't have an account. [100]
  • You can now add citations more easily with VisualEditor on the French and Italian Wikipedia. The tool adds the information when you add some types of links. In the future you will be able to add this tool to your wiki. [101] [102] [103]
  • All sites should now be faster if you have a recent browser. [104]
  • You could see a serious bug when editing some templates with VisualEditor. It was fixed quickly. [105]
  • VisualEditor could break when you edited an image. The issue was fixed quickly. [106]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 31. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 1 (calendar).
  • VisualEditor is now the main editing tool on 53 more Wikipedias. [107]
  • You can now edit the mobile site of all wikis without an account. [108]
  • You can test a new tool on the beta mobile site on the English Wikipedia. With the new tool, you can create lists of articles. [109]
  • You can now see that VisualEditor is opening even if you're not looking at the top of the page. [110]
  • VisualEditor doesn't leave empty titles with just nowiki tags any more. [111] [112] [113] [114]

Meetings

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Tech News: 2015-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • The import tool was broken for a few days. Imports didn't add log entries. You can delete and import pages again if necessary. [121]
  • Labs was broken several times this week. [122] [123] [124] [125]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 1. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 7. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 8 (calendar).
  • You can now add the same special characters with VisualEditor as with the wikitext editor. [126]
  • Many bugs around copy-paste in VisualEditor are now fixed. [127] [128]
  • You can now use basic tools of VisualEditor in the new talk tool. You can add links, bold and italics. You can also mention people. [129]

Meetings

  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 8 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You can again comment on how you want to see Wikidata edits in your watchlist on other wikis. [130]

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Discussion on U.S. islander territories

I don’t like the earlier 20th century American colonial experiment as an injustice to the indigenous islander peoples and I’m glad it has evolved into mutual territorial political union WITHOUT the earlier military tribunals, military governors and no voice in Congress that the judicial “unincorporated-1901” allowed. Most of the advances came after the Voting Rights Act of 1965 for DC (majority African-American) and the five major territories (majority hispanic or polynesian).

I strongly disagree with editors who would place the territory islanders on a par with Guantanamo Bay detainees (another miscarriage of justice) since contemporary territories with permanent populations of U.S. citizens/nationals are under the protection of regular federal district courts, not military tribunals. They are no longer “aliens” to democratic practice, nor culturally "alien" by their Roman Catholicism, nor a “danger” to the American republic as the Insular Cases defined them a century ago, cases which scholars have pronounced racist. Congress has mutually made islanders citizens/nationals, with elective self governance, a delegate Member of Congress, and their own constitutions for Puerto Rico, Northern Mariana Islands and American Samoa, --- gutting the judicial “unincorporated-1901” holdings by the same Court that gave us Plessy v. Ferguson.

The internal self-determination by a distinctive people to join a nation state by plebiscite is acknowledged as one of the three alternatives in modern international law: a) independence, b) freely associated states in a larger nation-state (with dual citizenship (Denmark-Greenland) or without (U.S.-Palau, Micronesia and Marshall Islands). Political union with a larger state is attained by mutual consent, including a plebiscite among those of the minority group. Internal self-determination to conform to international law must have human rights, elective self-governance and participation in the national councils. — Which is the point of the U.S. Core Document report to the U.N. Committee on Human Rights in 2011 for contemporary non-state DC and the five major unincorporated territories [131]. -- even though the judicial "unincorporated" remnant applies to internal tariffs, which it could not constitutionally, were the territories states.

The source is a reliable U.S.G. source, TFD has not identified any "experts" to counter the six experts initially identified supporting the U.S.G. position. Or am I missing something? TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 11:39, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 14. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 15 (calendar).
  • Developers will start to rename 1.5 million accounts on Wednesday. After that all accounts will be unique and will work on all wikis. [137] [138]
  • All users can now test link previews ("Hovercards") on several Wikipedias. [139]

Meetings

  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 15 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
For your general work in editing Wikipedia articles related to politics and your patience dealing with agenda driven editors, I AaronY award you this barnstar. Keep up the great work! AaronY (talk) 13:41, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 3

Greetings! For this month's issue...

We have demos!

After a lengthy research and design process, we decided for WikiProject X to focus on two things:

  • A WikiProject workflow that focuses on action items: discussions you can participate in and tasks you can perform to improve the encyclopedia; and
  • An automatically updating WikiProject directory that gives you lists of users participating in the WikiProject and editing in that subject area.

We have a live demonstration of the new WikiProject workflow at WikiProject Women in Technology, a brand new WikiProject that was set up as an adjunct to a related edit-a-thon in Washington, DC. The goal is to surface action items for editors, and we intend on doing that through automatically updated working lists. We are looking into using SuggestBot to generate lists of outstanding tasks, and we are looking into additional options for automatic worklist generation. This takes the burden off of WikiProject editors to generate these worklists, though there is also a "requests" section for Wikipedians to make individual requests. (As of writing, these automated lists are not yet live, so you will see a blank space under "edit articles" on the demo WikiProject. Sorry about that!) I invite you to check out the WikiProject and leave feedback on WikiProject X's talk page.

Once the demo is sufficiently developed, we will be working on a limited deployment on our pilot WikiProjects. We have selected five for the first round of testing based on the highest potential for impact and will scale up from there.

While a re-designed WikiProject experience is much needed, that alone isn't enough. A WikiProject isn't any good if people have no way of discovering it. This is why we are also developing an automatically updated WikiProject directory. This directory will surface project-related metrics, including a count of active WikiProject participants and of active editors in that project's subject area. The purpose of these metrics is to highlight how active the WikiProject is at the given point of time, but also to highlight that project's potential for success. The directory is not yet live but there is a demonstration featuring a sampling of WikiProjects.

Each directory entry will link to a WikiProject description page which automatically list the active WikiProject participants and subject-area article editors. This allows Wikipedians to find each other based on the areas they are interested in, and this information can be used to revive a WikiProject, start a new one, or even for some other purpose. These description pages are not online yet, but they will use this template, if you want to get a feel of what they will look like.

We need volunteers!

WikiProject X is a huge undertaking, and we need volunteers to support our efforts, including testers and coders. Check out our volunteer portal and see what you can do to help us!

As an aside...

Wouldn't it be cool if lists of requested articles could not only be integrated directly with WikiProjects, but also shared between WikiProjects? Well, we got the crazy idea of having experimental software feature Flow deployed (on a totally experimental basis) on the new Article Request Workshop, which seeks to be a place where editors can "workshop" article ideas before they get created. It uses Flow because Flow allows, essentially, section-level categorization, and in the future will allow "sections" (known as "topics" within Flow) to be included across different pages. What this means is that you have a recommendation for a new article tagged by multiple WikiProjects, allowing for the recommendation to appear on lists for each WikiProject. This will facilitate inter-WikiProject collaboration and will help to reduce duplicated work. The Article Request Workshop is not entirely ready yet due to some bugs with Flow, but we hope to integrate it into our pilot WikiProjects at some point.

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Tech News: 2015-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • There was sometimes a problem when saving a page in VisualEditor. It is now fixed on all wikis. [140]
  • VisualEditor sometimes showed empty warnings for wikis using Flagged Revisions. This is now fixed on all wikis. [141]
  • You can get the new version of the Wikipedia app for iOS. With it you can share facts with your friends. [142]
  • If you write JavaScript, you should stop using importScript and importStylesheet. [143]

Problems

  • There was a problem with Labs on Monday. [144]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 21. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 22 (calendar).
  • Developers are renaming 1.5 million accounts. After that all accounts will be unique and will work on all wikis. [145] [146] [147]
  • If your wiki has the auto-fill tool for citations, you can now use it when you edit a reference. [148]
  • You can now give examples for template options in TemplateData. [149]

Meetings

  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 22 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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Confirmation bias

Glad you liked the Wikipediocracy thread. I have been editing Wikipedia (on and off, ha ha) since 2003 and I have collected a little more on the subject of article degradation than my one remark suggests! On confirmation bias (in this case, selection bias) see this. I got in touch with the authors of the Epic survey to ask what methodology they used to select the sample articles. but they refuse. Obviously a survey on article quality is no good if you select the articles that look the best. And as I pointed out, even the ones they selected had significant errors. Peter Damian (talk) 07:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • All accounts are now unique and work on all wikis. [152] [153]
  • You can read a report from experts who tested the security of MediaWiki. [154]
  • There was a problem between VisualEditor and an antivirus software. It is now fixed. [155]
  • You can help test VisualEditor to see if it works in your language. [156]

Problems

  • Some Labs tools had problems due to a software bug. [157]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 22. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 28. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 29 (calendar).
  • It is now clearer that you can delete several rows and columns when you edit tables in VisualEditor. [158]
  • You now see more information when you search for a template in VisualEditor. [159]
  • You can now cancel when you add citations on desktop, or edit links on mobile, in VisualEditor. [160]
  • You can now see the list of other formats for videos only after they're ready. [161]

Meetings

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15:10, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Brown rice

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Brown rice. Legobot (talk) 00:04, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support request with team editing experiment project

Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.

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Tech News: 2015-19

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Recent changes

  • You can now chat with other users in Phabricator. [162]
  • There was a rare problem with VisualEditor. The text of another wiki could be added to your edit. The issue is now fixed. [163] [164]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 29. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from May 5. It will be on all Wikipedias from May 6 (calendar).
  • It is now easier to add a link in VisualEditor. You can see an image and a description about the page. [165]

Meetings

  • You can join a meeting with the Language team. The meeting will be on May 5 at 14:30 (UTC). [166]
  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on May 6 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join an event in France on May 22−25. You need to sign up before May 8. [167]

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15:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Xiaomi

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

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  • You can now make charts and maps on your wiki with the new "graph" tool. If you have an old browser, you will see images instead. It uses a tool called Vega; you can learn how to use it and write help pages for your wiki. You can use the Vega edit tool to make charts and copy the code to your wiki. Charts and maps use complex code and you should put them into templates. In the future, you will be able to create charts with VisualEditor. [168] [169] [170]
  • You can apply for technical jobs to develop tools for the community. [171]
  • The logos of all wikis are now in a new place. It will make pages load faster. You can still ask to change the logo. You can also use local CSS for brief changes. [172] [173]

Problems

  • There was a problem that caused slow editing. [174]
  • Pages were sometimes removed from your watchlist in VisualEditor. This problem is now fixed. [175]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since May 6. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from May 12. It will be on all Wikipedias from May 13 (calendar).
  • You can now use data from Wikidata on more pages. The page doesn't need to be linked to the Wikidata item. It works on a few wikis and more wikis will be added soon. [176] [177]
  • You should get fewer errors when you add files to Commons. [178]
  • When you use an external link to link to a wiki page, VisualEditor now converts it to a wiki link. [179]
  • When you add a link in VisualEditor, you see pages that match what you type. It is now easier to see where they match. [180]

Meetings

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15:41, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Economic growth

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Your recent editing history at Economic growth shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Please cease edit warring at Economic growth...again Capitalismojo (talk) 14:17, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Capitalismojo: "The best practice at this stage is to discuss" -- where is your discussion on the talk page? I've been discussing every step of the way. You've been reverting longstanding graphs from impeccable sources, and a compromise description of a source, none of which you have discussed even once. EllenCT (talk) 14:39, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion was going on there. You are now deep into editwar territory with three other editors. I'd suggest self-reverting. Your editing is becoming disruptive. Capitalismojo (talk) 16:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Beepi

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Beepi. Legobot (talk) 00:01, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Uber regulation summary: help needed

Hi EllenCT, I'm reaching out to each of the editors who commented on the "Request for Comment" at Talk:Uber (company) re: the Uber article's section on regulation and legal issues. As you might remember, editors were overwhelmingly in favor of splitting off that information into a new article, then summarizing in the Uber article. While the first part happened, there has been no movement on the summarizing and Regulatory opposition continues to grow and grow. To help kickstart that process, I've put forward a draft for everyone to take a look at that aims to cover the key details in a summary form: Summarizing Regulatory opposition

My conflict of interest means that it's best for me not to be bold and move this into the article myself, but I hope that it can at least be a starting point for other editors to work from. Would you mind coming back to the page to have a look? Craig at Uber (talk) 19:50, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Disruptive edit warning

According to Wikipedia policy I should notify you before opening a case against you for repeatedly expanding the income inequality section, a minority view, way beyond its significance. It is suggested that you summarize this section as briefly as possible, moving whatever you wish to keep to the main article Economic inequality where you can list all of these various papers. I would move them myself, but you having having posted most of this section, would be better at incorporating it into the main article.22:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)Phmoreno (talk) 02:00, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Phmoreno: I am still waiting you to provide any sources indicating that income distribution isn't the largest independent determinant of growth as the IMF and JEL reviews say it is, or any reasons why it shouldn't be due to aggregate demand. I welcome the opportunity for other editors to ask why you didn't participate in the extremely extensive discussion of the topic in January including the RFC even though you were actively editing then. The productivity section is larger. Please remember to sign your talk page comments with four tildes. EllenCT (talk) 22:36, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't participate in the discussion because have a bad history here on Wikipedia (per administrator boards). You are only interested in promoting your POV with poor quality references and no demonstrated knowledge of the broader subject matter.Phmoreno (talk) 02:52, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Who has had a bad history? The IMF is the largest WP:SECONDARY study on the topic ever. The JEL review is peer reviewed and stands unchallenged among literature reviews. Where are your sources? EllenCT (talk) 05:28, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Bad history: I've seen your name in complaints to administrators about pushing your point of view and disruptive editing and I've had bad experiences with you also. Your editing is very selective and you've misrepresented key points from some of your sources. You keep asking for cites on fundamentals of economics, which you should already know if you are going to write about it. You can't or won't summarize your case into a concise, coherent overview. It reads like a random list. Phmoreno (talk) 12:22, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have never once been sanctioned in the slightest. Certainly many people complain about me, because I take a strong stand against bias when I see it, as we all should. The worst a closing admin has ever said about me is that I can be strident when frustrated. You know one of the things that frustrates me? Editors who say that they have sources in support of their opinions but don't cite them. Anything beyond WP:CK needs sources if challenged, per the pillar policies WP:OR and WP:V. The IMF chart you tried to delete is a concise, coherent overview of the independent variables causing economic growth. EllenCT (talk) 05:11, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-21

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Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since May 13. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from May 19. It will be on all Wikipedias from May 20 (calendar).
  • References are now always in the right order. Also, the reference list now only shows references used on the page. [181]
  • You can no longer create an account with a colon ':' in it. If you already have one, it still works. [182]
  • The toolbar in VisualEditor now looks different. It is easier to see the icons. [183]
  • You won't be able to use e-mail lists for a few hours on Tuesday. [184] [185]
  • UploadWizard now shows better matches when you add a category to your file. [186]
  • A test about VisualEditor will start on the English Wikipedia on Thursday. [187]

Meetings

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  • You can join a technical meeting in France this week.

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15:20, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act

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ANI notice

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A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence of stalking people
I just had a chance to see what you've done to the high-speed trading, and keeping i one sided to the finacial industry. greak work stalker bo EllenCT (talk) 21:43, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

keep on stalking for a one sided wikipedia!

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