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Miss you

Die Fliege

Thank you for the immense contributions to French and German culture that we wouldn't have without you. Who will help me with Opéra de Montréal, a sad stub mentioned on the Main page? We can talk on the German Wikipedia, - you might drop help for that article on my talk there, for example. I'd understand, however, if you had no further intention to help here. Merci. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will miss you too. Thanks for what you've done. Thanks for translating over 6000 German and French articles into English. Thanks for the immense work, you have done. You are a loss for the whole Wikipedia project. You can contact me under de:Benutzer Diskussion:Grimes2. Grimes2 (talk) 09:08, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I mentioned you on my talk, inviting "teh community" to create the two authors of "let me not be here in vain" which you can't do. I thank you so much for those you could do, such as Tag des offenen Denkmals. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Today, I dedicate La Passion selon Sade to you, - a Christian hymn seemed not quite right ;) - I decorated with the image another missed friend took. I dedicated Mass in B minor structure to him. The Passion will grow, promised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Offer

Thanks for responding to my question at AN regarding your language skills. (Actually, based on your last response at AN (diff, perma) and your user page, you're a bit higher than an en-3; I'd place you probably around en-3.5 or en-3.7, but the {{Babel}} template does not permit that.) Unfortunately, I learned of that AN discussion too late to take part in a substantive way. The discussion there is over now, so I don't wish to rehash it; I don't know how I would have voted on the block, and what I "might have said" in the discussion would not be relevant or helpful to you now.

However, I did want to let you know (perhaps you already do) that an indefinite block is not an infinite block, and if you did want to contribute again at some point in the future, an appeal for an unblock is not impossible. I don't think that road would be an easy one, and if you choose to go that route, I think you should let some time elapse first (probably six months at least) and then marshal your resources and think about your approach for how to go about it. It sounds like Gerda would be willing to help out if you asked, she is clearly an ally, and if you pinged me I would be willing to give you some feedback about your plans to come back. I'm struggling with how to say this properly so it doesn't come out wrong: you shouldn't view me either as an ally or as someone who's out to get you, because I'm neither; rather, you should see me as someone who is willing to help you attempt a return, even if it involves saying some things straight up that might be hard for you to hear, but could increase your chances of success. If you want that, ping me in six months or so, or email me via the link on the left sidebar on my Talk page, if you prefer a private connection, although I prefer open communication as much as feasible. (Gerda, you can do the same, if you initiate something.) In the meantime, enjoy a break, get out and smell the roses, and don't think about Wikipedia. If and when you're ready to think about a comeback and want some feedback about it, let me know. Good luck, Mathglot (talk) 16:56, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Luftangriff auf Magdeburg

LouisAlain, You mentioned this German article at AN, and I wondered if you've started work on it someplace. I could maybe finish it. I don't see anything in Draft: space. Mathglot (talk) 23:41, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

250 DYK's

Thanks for 250 DYK's. Impressive Statistic about your high quality articles on mainpage. Grimes2 (talk) 12:28, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Grimes2 (talk) 09:32, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Grimes2. Please also make one for whom he thanked, - LouisAlain, for how many infoboxes did you thank me? 50 in 2021 is my estimate. I'll loose my position without them ;) - DYK that the line "Every editor is a human being" was my first editnotice? - ... was written by Geometry guy in 2021? ... in an AN discussion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:47, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Jascha Nemtsov

Hello, LouisAlain. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Jascha Nemtsov".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 14:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, could you please spare a blocked user the irony of "happy editing" that the template produces? ... perhaps also check out why he is is blocked: I understand "for lying by omission" which is too vague for my taste. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:56, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:David Graham (composer)

Hello, LouisAlain. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "David Graham".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 21:46, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Wolfgang Anheisser

On 1 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wolfgang Anheisser, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Wolfgang Anheisser was the leading baritone at the Cologne Opera while simultaneously a member of East Berlin's State Opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wolfgang Anheisser. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Wolfgang Anheisser), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Wilfried Gruhn

On 2 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wilfried Gruhn, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Wilfried Gruhn founded a centre for early childhood music learning in Freiburg, based on the Gordon music learning theory? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wilfried Gruhn. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Wilfried Gruhn), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pictured DYK on Portal:Germany (diff, where 3 of the 8 most recent hooks are by you, and the fourth, Monika Salzer, would also have been by you ... - Anyboday now to create Edwin Gordon (just a redirect)? ... Kunstmuseum Krefeld? - Thank you! Did you know that Gruhn is cited in Stockhausen pieces? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know ...

... that Wilfried Gruhn founded
a centre for early childhood music learning in Freiburg,
based on the Gordon music learning theory?

... that Leo Kestenberg, a concert pianist,
initiated a large-scale
reform of music education in Prussia,
but had to flee the Nazis
first to Prague and then to Tel Aviv?

Sorry that I didn't see that we have Kunstmuseen Krefeld already. Thank you for great content! We would be poorer without it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Never forget you

LouisAlain you are not forgotten. I miss your articles. Grimes2 (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

October songs

Same, and working on it. I uploaded new pics (click on songs), including "our" concert (after exactly two years without) and a cow sunset, - I liked the premiere of This too shall pass in the presence of the composer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Today: #1700, and I uploaded more images, mostly blue and green, for hope. Missing the "perennial" gang. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Listening on radio to Mady Mesplé singing Mozart, Madame Herz, no kidding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Petzold moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Frank Petzold, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Mccapra (talk) 05:13, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will take care of it, but patience please. Do you really believe a red link is better for our readers than this information, Mccapra? Would you please at least restore the interlanguage links if you think so? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:26, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: thank you for taking this on. Personally I think it is indeed better for us to have a red link rather than an article without proper sourcing. That is also what WP:VERIFY says. Until we have a properly sourced article ready for mainspace, anyone searching for this subject will find the de.wiki article and can google translate it if they want to. I'm not sure about interlanguage links but as far as I understand it they don't link to draft articles so they can't be restored until the article comes back into mainspace. All the best Mccapra (talk) 09:53, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I can't follow. What do interlanguage links have to do with this being in draft space, why not have Frank Petzold where he is mentioned? Is there any contentious information in the article which would require particular verification? Personally, I believe it would be better for this article to be in Main space where people see it and can add a ref or two. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] - See also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:28, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If you think it should be in mainspace you’re welcome to move it back. Mccapra (talk) 11:13, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'll wait until I have time for it, installing the refs properly and perhaps from what they say, and then let a third person inspect. I think the author should not be blocked, but who's listening to what I think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: G. Ulrich Großmann has been accepted

G. Ulrich Großmann, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

DGG ( talk ) 07:39, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Karl-Heinz Petzinka

On 8 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Karl-Heinz Petzinka, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Karl-Heinz Petzinka, the rector of the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf, designed the Stadttor (pictured) in Düsseldorf? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Karl-Heinz Petzinka. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Karl-Heinz Petzinka), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Anton Josef Reiss

On 9 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anton Josef Reiss, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Anton Josef Reiss created a marble Pietà sculpture for Cologne's St. Gereon? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anton Josef Reiss. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Anton Josef Reiss), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Another good topic about culture in Central Europe: mostly black&white. Thank you!--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your talk page access

LouisAlain, tl;dr: Despite your previous comments to the contrary, I think you still have Talk page access. Try replying below and see what happens.

Details: you previously stated somewhere that you couldn't respond here at your Talk page because of your block, but a WP:BLOCK and talk page restriction are two different things, and I don't see that your Talk page access is restricted:

If your access here were restricted, when you follow the 'block log' link it would say "(account creation blocked, cannot edit own talk page)" (emphasis added), but it does not say that. Unless there is some kind of logging restriction that I am unaware of that doesn't show up at the 'block log', you continue to have free access to this page, and you may reply here, within the constraints of guidelines and policy. In particular, you could appeal your block on this page at any time.

I mention this, because the ongoing discussion at AN, includes a new subsection entitled, "Suggestion / formal proposal" by User:Berig with a proposal of partially unblocking you. As I understand policy, it is permissible for you to respond via admin proxy, by responding here on your Talk page with whatever it is you'd like to say at the AN discussion, and requesting an admin to copy it there with your sig & timestamp. (I'm sure I've seen admins transfer good faith content about an AN blocking issue from a blocked User talk page to AN before, but I can't find a reference to it at WP:BLOCK. Berig, can you please confirm this, and provide a guideline or policy link if possible?)

That said, Louis, I would be extremely cautious about making such a request to copy comments of yours to AN, as to be honest, you can be your own worst enemy sometimes, and silence there is probably your best bet right now. If I were you, I'd just let the conversation continue without you, with one exception: brief, neutrally-worded correction of clear errors of fact.

If you were to reply at AN via this method, I would restrict your comments to completely neutral statements about 100% provable errors of fact, and not to any (perceived) errors of judgement, opinion, or unprovable assertions. In particular, stay away from anything involving machine translation. For example: if an editor at the AN thread says something like, "On Octember 32nd, Louis added unsourced content to Weimar Republic" you can reply with, "No, I didn't; here is a link to the page history, and I am not listed there", and just leave it at that. No argumentation, no opinion, no comments on other editors and what their motivations might be, no comments on how difficult/unfair the whole process is; just plain, simple, correction of fact, and nothing more. (Trust me; this is for your own good. The other exception would be if an admin or trusted editor at AN asks you a specific question there and asks you to respond here, but that probably won't happen.)

Louis, please try and respond to this thread now with just a "Hello. ~~​~~" — that should establish whether your page access is working or not. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mathglot, I think what you suggest is perfectly acceptable per WP:COMMON.--Berig (talk) 07:20, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mathglot, thanks for your kind intervention and advice. Just, I have no intention whatsoever to crawl on the ground and twist like a worm in order to beg pardon and mercy. I was blocked for an invented lie that wasn't one. First, I didn't like to be summoned to court where the final result was already set up. Had I been asked if I used a translation machine I would have answered : yes. I simply answered the question that was asked. Just, I don't use Google translate but another one (DeepL). This imaginary and made up lie sure called for a block. There was a massive drive to push me out (no name given following your suggestion) and like many other users before me, it succeeded.
Apart native anglophones like you with an astounding abilities in many foreign languages, who doesn't use online translators ? Yes, the end result is bound to be an pleasant read for English speakers. One even asked some years ago if I really understood what I was writing. How nice of him! And I thought Wikipedia was a collaborative encyclopedia where everyone was invited to improve the project. Quite the opposite, some here behave like vandals.
I thought the references issue was closed since my 30 or so last translations were filled with references a galore. Yet, someone called for the deletion of Cologne Cathedral quarter with 48 checked and verified references. I'm no longer interested in working in such friendly environment. Anyway, using a translating machine will always be fraught with mistakes and errors. It would be criminal from me to pursue my wrecking job here. I've returned to the fr. Wiki, publishing under I.P. The attribution thingie is meaningless to me.
As Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs) wrote, there was an effective German Mannschaft at work here and it has been dispelled by "well meant" people. Wikipedia's lost, not mine.
I've started trying my hand on the de. Wiki but with mitigated success so far. If Grimes2 (hi Grimes2) is curious, it's there : de:Anne-Sophie Lapix and de:Harry Roselmack. The third try was deleted.
As you can see, this reply was written without Google Translate nor DeepL. Is it better or even wore ? 2A01:E0A:98E:9040:189E:1399:3187:8ACE (talk) 15:29, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kowtow

There is a vote about you in AN. Some of the administrators ask for your Kowtow. Grimes2 (talk) 07:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Grimes2, yes, I linked the discussion in the section above, at #Your talk page access. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 07:53, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]