Talk:Conservative Party (UK)

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Section sizes

Section size for Conservative Party (UK) (63 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	34,944	34,944
History	439	143,609
Origins	2,768	2,768
1867–1914: Conservatives and Unionists	4,592	4,592
First World War	1,980	1,980
1920–1945	2,086	2,086
1945–1975: Post-war consensus	81	8,115
Popular dissatisfaction	675	675
Modernising the party	5,332	5,332
1965–1975: Edward Heath	2,027	2,027
1975–1990: Margaret Thatcher	7,041	7,041
1990–1997: John Major	7,190	7,190
1997–2010: Political wilderness	6,772	6,772
2010–2024: Austerity, Brexit, and the pandemic	7,587	38,735
2010–2016: David Cameron	5,909	5,909
2016–2019: Theresa May	5,373	5,373
2019–2022: Boris Johnson	8,025	8,025
2022: Liz Truss	6,376	6,376
2022–2024: Rishi Sunak	4,477	4,477
2024: Kemi Badenoch	988	988
Economic policy	3,813	3,813
Social policy	12,513	12,513
Foreign policy	11,669	11,669
Defence policy	5,070	5,070
Health and drug policy	3,426	3,426
Education and research	3,662	3,662
Family policy	3,274	3,274
Jobs and welfare policy	5,444	5,444
Energy and climate change policy	3,845	3,845
Justice, crime and security policy	1,622	1,622
Transport and infrastructure policy	4,743	4,743
European Union policy	2,574	2,574
Constitutional policy	2,236	2,236
Organisation	20	32,259
Party structure	2,970	2,970
Membership	5,334	5,334
Prospective parliamentary candidates	2,232	2,232
Young Conservatives	2,654	2,654
Conferences	252	252
Funding	4,856	11,205
Financial ties to Russian oligarchs	6,349	6,349
International organisations	3,121	3,121
Logo	4,471	4,471
Party factions	3,069	11,204
One-nation Conservatives	2,014	2,014
Free-market Conservatives	3,301	3,301
Traditionalist Conservatives	1,659	1,659
Relationships between the factions	1,161	1,161
Electoral performance and campaigns	2,050	20,661
UK general election results	18,611	18,611
Notes	1,045	1,045
Associated groups	106	2,798
Ideological groups	1,032	1,032
Interest groups	431	431
Think tanks	226	226
Alliances	467	467
Party structures	536	536
See also	409	409
Notes	74	74
References	33	33
Further reading	6,678	8,176
Historiography	1,498	1,498
External links	2,112	2,112
Total	257,324	257,324

Conservate party are not "Centre" Right.

The Conservative and Union party of Great Britain are not a "Centre" Right party, they are a Right wing party. 78.145.65.76 (talk) 06:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There might be some merit to this point. (This is WP:Synth. BUT.. yougov shows significantly more people think they are right wing or very right wing than 'centre' Conservative Party alignment (yougov.co.uk)) I'll see what other sources I can find for this. JeffUK (talk) 15:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Under the Truss premiership and government, the economic ideology of the party is (according to the Financial Times) the most right-wing in all of Europe, and more right-wing than the Republicans in the United States. I agree, and would want to change it as such. Mooreo.odm (talk) 12:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Centre" right

I propose that the political position be changed to "centre-right to right wing" to accurately describe the factions in the party, especially due to the talking points in the Leadership campaign with regards to issues like LGBT topics, economic policy and migration. The party has shifted heavily away from the centre-right since 2016. 82.69.36.127 (talk) 22:20, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Under the Truss premiership and government, the economic ideology of the party is (according to the Financial Times) the most right-wing in all of Europe, and more right-wing than the Republicans in the United States. I agree, and will change it as such. Mooreo.odm (talk) 12:08, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DUP

The Conservatives have aligned with the DUP especially during the coalition government under Johnson. This is missing from the Irish affiliation section. 2A00:23C7:5122:BE01:B170:C8D1:312C:4E67 (talk) 15:58, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Change "centre-right" to right wing

Agree with the above two comments that centre right now needs to be right-wing, especially under the leadership of Boris Johnson and Liz Truss, and with what we've seen in the Leadership Election. We now have a home secretary that supports leaving the European Convention of Human Rights ^[1], which would put the UK on-par with only Russia and Belarus, and there have been further threats to the humans rights act. ^[2] The Conservatives' plan to deport asylum seekers to Rwanda, a country with poor humans rights records, should also be noted. ^[3]

That's not to mention a series of authoritarian laws implemented this year, such as the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022 (removing the right to protest), the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 (allowing the Home Office to strip British citizenship of any individual without warning), and the Elections Act 2022 (requiring voter ID, giving the Government power over the electoral commission). Additionally, Liz Truss has campaigned on tax cuts for the rich, and the leadership election had a disproportionate focus on "culture wars" and "woke issues". AWikipediaEditor99 (talk) 19:19, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done .... would need academic sources that discuss this.Moxy-

20:12, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

while i agree with this judgement, it should be noted that the current academic sources are from 1994 (and so outdated with respect to the trajectory of the modern conservative party) and 2016 (since which uk politics has changed dramatically). the current description of 'centre-right' is inaccurate. Plifal (talk) 15:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

'Centre-right to right-wing' should be the description, it reflects the two main groupings within the party. The more moderate wing that governed in the 2010s, and the more right-wing faction that governs in the 2020s. Mooreo.odm (talk) 18:20, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Academic source like this? Much better of an academic source about Cameron's politics in 2016, as now... --Skyfall (talk) 21:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Far-Right Economically

The Financial Times has labeled the conservative party as the most right-wing party in the developed world [1]https://www.ft.com/content/d5f1d564-8c08-4711-b11d-9c6c7759f2b8 [2]https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/trussanomics-swings-tories-right-trump-and-bolsonaro 82.14.227.184 (talk) 08:08, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. They should be referred to as ‘Centre-right to right-wing’ in the political position section to reflect the different groupings within the party. Mooreo.odm (talk) 12:11, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Make it Centre-Right to Far Right because there is a far right group within the tories. we shouldn't downplay it. 82.14.227.184 (talk) 16:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The far-right element is not a major enough force to be in the description (Labour is not referred to on Wikipedia as 'Far-left to Centre' to reflect the penecommunist-to-Blairite spectrum). The two main groupings within the Conservative party are the broad centre-right, embodied by the administrations of the 2010s, and the right-wing, embodied by the figures of the 2020s. I'm endorsing 'Centre-right to right-wing'. I'd like to get concensus on this so we can change it. Mooreo.odm (talk) 18:15, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

okay 82.14.227.184 (talk) 22:41, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, that's not what "far-right" means, where it comes to economics. The far-right are closer to the centre on economics. More importantly, though, we don't change the political position of the party based on a single leader -- we only do it if sources demonstrate that the party as a whole, from top to bottom, represents a new change in its direction. That definitely doesn't happen after a few weeks. — Czello 22:48, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not advocating for adding ‘far-right’ to the description. As you can see, I oppose it. What I do believe is that it is obvious that the Conservative party, as a whole like you appreciate, represents a centre-right to right-wing spectrum. These two broad categories have been the dominating forces in the party for essentially its entire existence. To merely call it ‘centre-right’ is an inaccuracy, and it should certainly be changed to ‘centre-right to right-wing’. Mooreo.odm (talk) 17:39, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, centre-right is not an apt description of the party and hasn't been for some time, there are mild far-right elements but as mentioned earlier these are not strong enough to incorporate 'far-right' in the description. However, for some time now the party has been controlled by MPs who would be considered 'right' on issues such as the economy, immigration and crime, with push back on some issues from those on the centre-right. Thus as these factions struggle for control of the party, centre-right to right would be a more apt description of the party. As mentioned previously the public has held this perception long before the lurch to the right under Truss, https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/conservative-party-alignment. In terms of academia, https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41293-021-00165-9 this article outlines the factional disputes between what can essentially be categorised as the centre-right and right within the party over Brexit, with this further article from 2020 outlining the ideological closeness of UKIP and the Conservative Party https://ras.jes.su/meimo/s013122270008985-4-1-en Txmhhh (talk) 14:13, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] UK must curb influence of European human rights rules, says Braverman | The Guardian

[2] Bill of Rights Bill

[3] What is the UK's plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda and how many could go?

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