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August 17
Baba Rampuri article
The Baba Rampuri article is being used as part of a fraud and blackmail scheme. There are factually incorrect statements, references to fraud websites, and defaming material. This goes against the conditions of use of Wkipedia, and certainly against the spirit and intentions of wikipedia. It also cause harm to me personally to be so misrepresented. I'd be happy to discuss this with someone who may correct this injustice.
Best regards,
Baba Rampuri — Preceding unsigned comment added by BabaRampuri (talk • contribs) 05:30, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Post your comments to the article talk page. If the comments are libelous, you may post to WP:BLPN. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:10, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Multiple Pages on Subject at obscure level
United States presidential election in New Mexico, 1964 is just an example of not one, but many pages that seem to have been created recently by a user. It seems inappropriate for an article for Presidential Election in XXXX state for XXXX year election. All this information can be found on the Presidential Election for XXXX year page. It seems like creating articles just to create them, there's nothing being added that wouldn't be found on the main election page. I ask here because with so many of them created within such a short period of time and being a fairly new user I'm just not sure where to post this to. If there's some new consensus that this is how US Presidential Elections should be handled please let me know. Caffeyw (talk) 05:42, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- If you feel they don't meet the criteria for notability, feel free to list them for deletion. You can give full reasoning for each article, and if nobody objects, they'll be deleted. drewmunn talk 17:26, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- No, while it may not have any unique information at this point, there state US Pres election pages certainly do contain them for later elections. See United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico,_2008 for example. If they are expanded so that the 1964 pages have the same sort of state specific information as the 2008 do, I would welcome them.Naraht (talk) 03:24, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
svg file
I found an updated Logo on the German page of a club. Now I'm edditing the english page of this club and I'm not sure if I can use the same .svg file and how to upload it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayham333 (talk • contribs) 06:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- You should at least specify the page that you are editing. Ruslik_Zero 17:32, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
To browse main page of particular date in past.
I want to see the Main page of WIKIPEDIA dated 5th July 2013.How can I do this? In general how can I open Main page of Wikipedia of any date in past since this feature started? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.79.40.26 (talk) 09:23, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Main Page history/2013 July 5 has 5 July's; you can find any main page by going to Wikipedia:Main Page history/DATE in YYYY Month DD form. ~HueSatLum 17:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just like any other page, the Main Page has a Revision history tab at the top. You can select the version from any date from there. Rojomoke (talk) 17:17, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- The Main Page revision history isn't much help, Rojomoke. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Clicking on the Revision History tab takes me to here, which gives access to the entire history.. Your link seems to be the result of two separate temporary redirects. Rojomoke (talk) 18:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- The Main Page isn't updated every day; it transcludes individual templates for FA, DYK, ITN, etc., so using the revision history doesn't give the desired result. ~HueSatLum 19:37, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Clicking on the Revision History tab takes me to here, which gives access to the entire history.. Your link seems to be the result of two separate temporary redirects. Rojomoke (talk) 18:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- The Main Page revision history isn't much help, Rojomoke. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
WikiArcheology
OK, this one is going to take a real WikiArcheologist...
Recently, at Wikipedia talk:Flow, the following argument was made:
"Of course when you poll a group of Wikipedians right now about how they want to deal with [X], they will say they want [Y]. That's how they currently deal with those things – just like if you'd asked Wikipedians in 2001 how they want to create internal links in Wikipedia, they would have said 'CamelCase!'"
My question is this; was there any real opposition to Wikipedia replacing CamelCase with square brackets? Is that discussion in our history, or was this before we have reliable records? --Guy Macon (talk) 09:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- As far as I can find, the earliest archived discussion on linking is at the MOS, and it is from 2005 (by which time brackets were already in use). This is not to say it doesn't still exist, but I can't find it anywhere that I think it may be. It's always worth asking an older Wikipedian, as they may remember it. If you still have no luck, try the staff themselves. drewmunn talk 17:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- I spent a couple of hours searching and didn't find anything either. This has my curiosity up; I think it would be fascinating to see how those early decisions were made and how well the predictions that happen during any policy discussion have held up. Has anyone else found anything? --Guy Macon (talk) 20:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- The earliest revision of Help:link says it was copied from M (meta), and the earliest version of M:Help:Link is from 2004, at which time internal links were already made by brackets. I think maybe User:Patrick, who created that page and is one of the earliest users, might very well be able to shed light (with Echo in place, he should now be informed of this discussion if he logs on, but note that he hasn't made any edits since last month).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, Echo works fine. I use Wikipedia since 2002, when CamelCase was already abolished. See Wikipedia:CamelCase and Wikipedia. - Patrick (talk) 23:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- You may want to get input from Manning Bartlett or BenKovitz. Manning's been around forever (I think he wrote the original version of MediaWiki) and is still active. Ben's account is somewhat newer, but he's been involved since the get-go (see our Ben Kovitz redirect), and while he's not super-active, he's still around somewhat and is active enough that he was at a meetup that I attended in June. Nyttend (talk) 03:16, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I wasn't involved when double brackets were invented, but I do remember one fact about this. Larry Sanger expressed dislike of CamelCase at the taco-stand conversation because they led to clunky neologisms like MrAristotle. Your best source of info about this is probably Larry Sanger. (Let me know if you need help contacting him.) —Ben Kovitz (talk) 20:35, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, Echo works fine. I use Wikipedia since 2002, when CamelCase was already abolished. See Wikipedia:CamelCase and Wikipedia. - Patrick (talk) 23:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- The earliest revision of Help:link says it was copied from M (meta), and the earliest version of M:Help:Link is from 2004, at which time internal links were already made by brackets. I think maybe User:Patrick, who created that page and is one of the earliest users, might very well be able to shed light (with Echo in place, he should now be informed of this discussion if he logs on, but note that he hasn't made any edits since last month).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- I spent a couple of hours searching and didn't find anything either. This has my curiosity up; I think it would be fascinating to see how those early decisions were made and how well the predictions that happen during any policy discussion have held up. Has anyone else found anything? --Guy Macon (talk) 20:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Howdy all. Yes, I WAS there when we still had CamelCase. Everyone hated it and we were universally delighted when we got rid of it. @Nyttend - I didn't write the original version (or any version) of MediaWiki, that was Magnus Manske. (FWIW My biggest contribution was the Wikiproject concept.) But getting rid of Camel Case was one of the most requested features. (Automatic talk pages was the other - we had to create them manually). Manning (talk) 21:10, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Edit - On reflection, the following might just be the inane ramblings of a fuddled memory. One more thing to clear up - there were ALWAYS double square brackets for links, even during the UseModWiki/CamelCase era. Plus you always could pipe to alternate text. CamelCase was needed because the database couldn't handle spaces in a page name. So for Abraham Lincoln you needed to write [[AbrahamLincoln|Abraham Lincoln]]. Which is why we all hated it. Manning (talk) 21:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I never knew that. I knew that the software automatically linked any word with two or more capitals (thus the debate over whether we have an article on AustraliA, AUstralia, etc.), so I just assumed that FreeLinks with brackets were first enabled as the CamelCase auto-linking was being phased out. I didn't know that it was even possible to have what we now call a piped link. And thanks for the correction vs. Magnus; I tend to get the two of you confused, unfortunately. Nyttend (talk) 02:09, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- And now that you say that, I'm beginning to seriously doubt what I wrote above. Maybe we actually didn't have the double bracket links at the beginning... heck, it was a long time ago, and I'm an old fart now. But as to the main point of the discussion - yes, we all hated CamelCase and getting rid of it was universally popular. I'm 100% certain of that :) Manning (talk) 05:09, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- User_talk:Magnus_Manske#CamelCase_and_UseModWiki - this sheds a bit more light on things. Manning (talk) 09:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Can't convert to global user account
So I'm trying to convert my account to a global user account. In my preferences, I click on "Manage your global user account", I put in my password, and it brings up the error:
The home wiki for this account (listed below) has a different password to the one you entered. Please enter the password for the home wiki.
Under that it says:
Home wiki
The password and email address set at this wiki will be used for your unified account.
ja.wikipedia.org (home wiki)
I've never been on Japanese Wikipedia. Looking at the account with the same name as me there, it was created after me the last edit was a few years ago (my account has more recent activity). What should I do? DK (talk) 14:36, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- The other account may be able to be deleted, but it may be quicker for you to change your username instead. drewmunn talk 16:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- The right to a global account isn't based on age but number of edits. The Japanese account currently has around 20 more edits than you. If you make around 20 further edits then you should get the right. All edits at en.wikipedia.org count. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Note to self: make more typos. Every edit counts, including fixing your own errors... (smile) --Guy Macon (talk) 20:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help guys, I'll get right on it. Starting with this. DK (talk) 23:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
water
Assuming that 16" pipe weighs 90 pound per foot empty. Estimate the weight of a 20 foot length of pipe filled with water ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.235.237.129 (talk) 16:51, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- You want the reference desk, this page is for questions about using Wikipedia. drewmunn talk 16:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Wikipedia Help Desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misinterpretation, but it is our aim here not to do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn nearly as much as doing it yourself. Please attempt to solve the problem or answer the question yourself first. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, feel free to tell us where you are stuck and ask for help. If you need help grasping the concept of a problem, by all means let us know. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- And depending on the level of precision that your teacher is looking for, you may need more information. Dismas|(talk) 10:28, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Biograph page
Hello,
I am and author and creating a biography in the Sandbox. I have not even started on my literary works yet, so am not ready to put the file into Wikipedia.
I have many professional papers etc., and when I added a URL link [and I did follow the proper format] I couldn't get the links to work. Is it because they are in the Sandbox? I would get an error re-credential (N^$% logon box. Can URLs be added in the Sandbox article.
- 2. Can images be uploaded to the Sandbox article? I must be missing something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laura Joyce Moriarty (talk • contribs) 17:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- I suggest that before you proceed any further, you read the Wikipedia notability guidelines - in particular WP:AUTHOR. I see nothing in your article so far to indicate that you would meet the guidelines, and unless you do, a biography on you would not be accepted. Note that we need evidence from third party published reliable sources to indicate the level of notability required. Were you to meet the guidelines, the article would in any case need substantial rewriting - it reads more like a resume than an encyclopaedia biography. I would also recommend reading Wikipedia:Autobiography - we strongly discourage autobiographical articles, and generally advise that if people are of sufficient notability to merit a Wikipedia article, it is best left to others to write. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Grump, My understanding of the sandbox was that it was "play/practice" area and I read nothing about sandbox files that had to remain permanent and uploaded. I was also of the understanding that the sandbox areas were not accessible to anyone outside of my account. My intention was to prepare something for when I die. I have already had a biography written by a professional in a university and it is fine except for the fact it is filled with minutia errors.
So my intend was to create a sandbox so the details are available for my children/next biographer to work with and that I approve of when I'm dead, and if at that time there is a need to create a biography, they don't have to look up and organize data or learn Wikipeadia formats. I have NO intention of posting/uploading my biography while I am alive. I didn't know it was a requirement to send sandbox files as live files. I assumed it would take me a couple of years considering I have very little time to devote to this, to organize pics I like etc.
You have mistaken my question for "how to" and/or "can it be done" as one of being accepted into Wikipeadia by your adjudication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.171.228 (talk) 13:59, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an online encyclopaedia. It is not a free webhosting service. We do not provide private workspace - and nor is there any guarantee that material in a sandbox will remain undeleted. I suggest that you copy your biography to a secure place. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:11, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- The question of "how to" and "can it be done" is inseparable from the question about being accepted into Wikipedia, as Andy's answers show. BTW, you're not actually working in the Sandbox, which is a public test area frequently overwritten, but in a user sandbox, which is a place mainly for working on content intended for publication. Your user sandbox content is visible to everyone (I can see it) and subject to all the usual rules governing inclusion and deletion. Any pictures you add to it will likewise be public, because they must first be uploaded under a suitable licence permitting public reuse, which may not be what you want to do with your pictures. I concur with Andy's appraisal of your sandbox content and his advice to copy it elsewhere if you want to keep it. If it sits there for a while it may well be deleted as a WP:STALEDRAFT, even if it is not nominated for deletion on other grounds. Preparing something "for when you die" is not really feasible at Wikipedia, where death does not confer notability and where the subject of an article has no right of approval over the content. - Karenjc 15:11, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I did not realize the content in the account was publicly accessible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.171.228 (talk) 18:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
What happened to HotCats?
It appears to be turned off on all the language versions that I use, even though I have it check-marked under the Gadgets. I've attempted to turn it off and back on, but it still doesn't work! Can someone fix the HotCats issue? --Sanya3 (talk) 19:58, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Have you tried WP:VPT?— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
eric owens
by his own words - just last wednesday - i heard eric (as did 35 others) credit the great steven smith with being his most important teacher...yet you mention him nowhere in your list of the great bass-baritone's teachers. what's up with this??????? can you rectify this lacuna?????? thanks, chris walling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.166.154.35 (talk) 21:14, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- "I heard..." is not a verifiable source, so no, we can't do that unless you find a published reliable source that contains the same claim/information. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:23, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Monthly pageview stats
There use to be a way to get monthly pageviews within a year by changing the YYYYMM part of the URL to just YYYY. Is there a way to get monthly pageviews for an entire year anymore.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 22:51, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
August 18
Advanced Search
Is there a way to search all the articles in a category, e.g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Telecommunications_standards ? (I wonder how many merit tagging like this or action along those lines.)--Elvey (talk) 01:40, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Check out Help:Searching#Parameters. Looks like it would be incategory: Telecommunications_standards as part of your search terms. Monty845 02:05, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Mistake in the protected article: Anders Celsius
The article is protected, so I can't correct anything. Was the scale invented one year after Celsius' death? "Inverted" would be more proper ;-) 85.193.219.237 (talk) 02:51, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I've made your requested edit. For future reference, you can always make a request on the article talk page and tag it with {{Edit semi-protected}}, which will add it to a category of pending requests, and someone will look at it eventually. Monty845 03:07, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you :-) 85.193.219.237 (talk) 04:46, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
changes to serena williams page
Last time I checked serena williams page; I read " arguably the greatest female player of all time. Before that was " one of the greatest tennis players of all time". Meanwhile she just won the Rogers open and still winning tournaments- and those lines have been removed. It looks suspicious, could you explain the removal of those lines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.37.32 (talk) 05:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is supposed to be written using neutral language and point of view. It's not an encyclopedia's place to determine if she is great or not. RudolfRed (talk) 05:07, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Actually we can, and should, state what others think of her (see Roger Federer for example). I've added that phrase back in, with a couple sources (there were many to pick from). --NeilN talk to me 05:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- @NeilN: Hi, random editor stumbling over this discussion. I'm confused by this. I understand that it's fine to quote experts in the field of tennis as well as other reliable sources, and I don't know that you were referring directly to the following statement from the Federer article, but since you used the Federer article as an example, I'm curious why an unjustified, uncited opinion statement about Federer "being one of the best volleyers in the game today" would be acceptable at Wikipedia? That's not OR? If you can break it down for me, I'd like to understand the nuances. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:39, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Cyphoidbomb. I was referring to "Many commentators and former and current players regard Federer as the greatest tennis player of all time," which has a myriad of sources. As for volleying, you're right, it should have a source. There are a couple of other sources that mention his volleying but nothing that outright confirms the sentence you're referring to. We should either find a proper source or remove it. --NeilN talk to me 05:48, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- A-ha! Thank you. I thought I was completely off. I noticed a similar statement in the lead at Muhammad Ali. "generally considered among the greatest heavyweights in the sport's history." I mean, sure, who would ever question that-- but a reference would be nice. :) I appreciate your response, thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:55, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: The Ali article is a different case. Per WP:LEADCITE, we don't have to cite statements in the opening paragraph if they're cited in the body. The "Legacy" section has enough cites to support "generally considered among the greatest heavyweights". As for Federer, I couldn't find anything after a ten minute search so I've tagged that sentence. --NeilN talk to me 06:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- @NeilN: Ah, good point! Thanks again. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:22, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: The Ali article is a different case. Per WP:LEADCITE, we don't have to cite statements in the opening paragraph if they're cited in the body. The "Legacy" section has enough cites to support "generally considered among the greatest heavyweights". As for Federer, I couldn't find anything after a ten minute search so I've tagged that sentence. --NeilN talk to me 06:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- A-ha! Thank you. I thought I was completely off. I noticed a similar statement in the lead at Muhammad Ali. "generally considered among the greatest heavyweights in the sport's history." I mean, sure, who would ever question that-- but a reference would be nice. :) I appreciate your response, thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:55, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Cyphoidbomb. I was referring to "Many commentators and former and current players regard Federer as the greatest tennis player of all time," which has a myriad of sources. As for volleying, you're right, it should have a source. There are a couple of other sources that mention his volleying but nothing that outright confirms the sentence you're referring to. We should either find a proper source or remove it. --NeilN talk to me 05:48, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- @NeilN: Hi, random editor stumbling over this discussion. I'm confused by this. I understand that it's fine to quote experts in the field of tennis as well as other reliable sources, and I don't know that you were referring directly to the following statement from the Federer article, but since you used the Federer article as an example, I'm curious why an unjustified, uncited opinion statement about Federer "being one of the best volleyers in the game today" would be acceptable at Wikipedia? That's not OR? If you can break it down for me, I'd like to understand the nuances. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:39, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Actually we can, and should, state what others think of her (see Roger Federer for example). I've added that phrase back in, with a couple sources (there were many to pick from). --NeilN talk to me 05:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- All a load of rubbish! The greatest tennis player of all time is Esther Vergeer. Unbeaten in 470 matches over 10 years, she faced matchpoint only once and lost only 18 sets during the entire winning streak. Among her wins are 42 Grand Slam titles and her entire career record is 700 wins and 25 losses. Next to Vergeer, Williams, Federer (and anyone else you'd care to mention) are merely wannabes. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:46, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- But can she beat Ali? :-) And, can I say, holy references! --NeilN talk to me 14:13, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
WP:DEFINING
Please see my post at WP:DEFINING which presents a serious complaint about the creation and attempted use of alleged guidelines that are completely unworkable and defy all common sense. There are too many of these already but this one is the last straw as far as I'm concerned. I'm afraid Wikipedia is losing its way and is being taken over by people with pedantic, bureaucratic mindsets who have no interest whatsoever in providing information or useful search/navigation facilities for the user. Mr Wales needs to be made aware of this if he is not already. We in the cricket project have had more than our fair share of problems with the contentious WP:CFD "process" and we now have a person trying to use this ludicrous "definingness" nonsense, based on a non-existent word, to have some of our categories deleted. Please see the relevant discussion at CfD re English cricketers which itself refers to an ongoing discussion at WT:CRIC. When is some action going to be taken to put a stop to all these pointless, unworkable rules and processes that do do nothing to help the site and alienate good editors? The people who gather at CfD and involve themselves in this rulemaking stupidity are the chief bane of the site. ----Jack | talk page 11:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have replied there. Please remember to try and remain civil; most editors are well-meaning, and becoming riled by other users' actions can hinder dispute resolution. Thanks. drewmunn talk 12:27, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Sandbox in personal toolbar area.
I cann't seem to get my sandbox in the personal toolbar area. I have checked under Gadgets (under Appearance) the box that says Add a "Sandbox" link to the personal toolbar area.. What do I have to do to get a sandbox? --Christie the puppy lover (talk) 14:08, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- You don't need that gadget to have a sandbox; it just gives you quick access to it. If you have the gadget, you should see a link that says "Sandbox" in the top right corner of any page, between Talk and Preferences. If the gadget isn't working for you, go to Special:MyPage/sandbox. ~HueSatLum 14:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Whitworth University article
How can I upload the official logo of Whitworth University as a transparent png file? I have been uploading 3 of them thus far, and they all have the white rectangular background. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jovan92 (talk • contribs) 15:23, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- You could remove the background using an application such as Photoshop, by selecting (with the magic wand tool) the white area, and deleting it through to a transparent background. If you are unsure of how to do this, I can do so for you, and upload the new image. drewmunn talk 20:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Kalina de Moura's page
Hi there
I was trying to create this page for Kalina de Moura, she is a rising actress American-Brazilian, who is now been searched all over the world. I think I may have totally messed up on how I tried to create a the page... I can try to do a better job with siting references, etc. But my question is; the fact that the career is one year old, will it still qualify her to be in your database? or is it too soon? you can find her:
- IMDb
- Klout
- Linkdln
her first film was released in Frbruary 14, 2013, called " False Engagement" by Keleche Eke, same director of " Lost in Abroad"2012... please send me some suggestions
thanks
thanks a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smitana03 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Tidied up your formatting Rojomoke (talk) 17:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC) .
- Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a database. As to whether or not a specific actor is notable enough to have an article about them here, the length of their career isn't important - what matters is the amount of significant coverage they have had in independent reliable sources. User-generated content like IMDb doesn't count, nor do Facebook and Twitter and the like. The criteria for establishing actors' notability are set out at WP:NACTOR. - Karenjc 19:17, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I would also advise you very strongly to read WP:RISING for the rising performer. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Teton Valley Article
To Whom It May Concern:
I just read your article on Teton Valley, Idaho, and I think you may have some things confused. In the wildlife section it says: Teton Valley is the home of mammals including the bald eagle, black bears, cougars, wolverines, and grizzly bears. The region hosts the largest herds of elk in North America and is one of the few remaining areas in the lower 48 states where the grizzly bear still roams in significant numbers, and is home to the largest free-ranging herd of bison in the lower 48 states.
First bald eagles are not mammals, second it doesn't host the largest herds of elk, or have the largest free ranging herd of bison. I believe the elk and bison herd information would be better associated with Jackson Hole, Wyoming and the national parks that are in Wyoming and Montana. I grew up in Victor, Idaho and we didn't have bison running around, although we did have elk herds, I don't think they would be considered the largest.
Sheldon Carpenter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.126.74.118 (talk) 15:54, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Sheldon, I've removed the unsourced text. If you see a problem with an article, you could try editing it yourself (or asking for help on how to edit). --NeilN talk to me 16:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Fake Jimbo Wales book.
Hello, I am on a business trip in Xian, China. I went to a book shop to find an english language book about Jimbo Wales which is unauthorised. It is entitled Jimbo Wales: The Self Biography about myself and Wikipedia Works. Good day. --Travis Perkinson (talk) 16:01, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- We aren't really the best people to discuss this with. You could question the man himself on his talk page. It's possible he doesn't know of it, and if he doesn't, he may choose to take action. Thanks for your vigilance! drewmunn talk 20:23, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Didn't they just have a Wikimania near there? It may have been created to cash in on the event. Mr. Wales may reimburse if you pick up a copy or 12 for him. He may feel they would be cute gifts. Ask him before you buy any though.--Canoe1967 (talk) 05:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed, I would be very amused to know more about this! There are many Wikipedians in China who may be able to help locate it, if we have information such as publisher, etc.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 09:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- You could buy a few and put cute signed inscriptions in them for worthy Wikipedians. Citation needed, dubious, copyvio, BLP undue, etc. Does the OP have email on?--Canoe1967 (talk) 09:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed, I would be very amused to know more about this! There are many Wikipedians in China who may be able to help locate it, if we have information such as publisher, etc.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 09:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Didn't they just have a Wikimania near there? It may have been created to cash in on the event. Mr. Wales may reimburse if you pick up a copy or 12 for him. He may feel they would be cute gifts. Ask him before you buy any though.--Canoe1967 (talk) 05:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Paranoia Doesn't Help
What is UP with the App/Mobile Version of Wikipedia periodically LOSING MY PASSWORD anf then being incapable of allowing me to recover or reset it?
This is apparently akin to the "new user-unfriendly atmosphere" designed to discourage contributors like me having a role here. Pathetic.
I cannot create a page because I'm not using a Desktop device... and I cannot recover/reset my Wikipedia password because I'm using the Android app?
What fascistic bullshit! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.182.8 (talk) 18:37, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- There are technical challenges to overcome with creating a mobile app, so having anything at all is a blessing. Take into account that Wikipedia employ a tiny staff, and these have to maintain the databases, websites, press and public relations, all the users, content disputes, and the mobile applications for all the different platforms. Basically, be thankful for what you have, and know that more functionality may become available in the future. Until then, you can still access the full site from your mobile, giving you access to everything you can on a desktop. drewmunn talk 20:19, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Reporting a technical issue
Hey all. I'm noticing a new technical problem with how certain articles display. It seems to me it is probably an issue with the CSS for individual articles. To where should I report/ask about fixing this? Thanks! Girona7 (talk) 19:09, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Report it at the Village Pump, WP:VPT RudolfRed (talk) 19:14, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Will do, thank you. Girona7 (talk) 19:23, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
ref and bio
How and where do I enter a web site I used for reference. ? I have recently started an article about my profressional boxing career and have used www.boxrec.com as my source of information. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bomber71 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- See referencing for beginnners and {{webcite}}. However, you are strongly discouraged from writing an article about yourself. Please read the guidance at WP:AUTO RudolfRed (talk) 20:55, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I think that Rudolph intended to refer to {{cite web}}, rather than {{webcite}}. - David Biddulph (talk) 00:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed. Thanks. RudolfRed (talk) 00:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
August 19
How do you make columns?
I'd like to list articles I've improved/created on my user page in 3 columns across the page to save space. How do I do that? Thanks. Malke 2010 (talk) 01:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Malke 2010! Will [[Template:Columns-list#See also|]] help?···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 02:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you Vanischenu. I appreciate it! Malke 2010 (talk) 02:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
How do you the amount of edit reverts are in my account
I tried Help:Reverting but didn't see it there. Just wondering how many reverts are in my account, how do you do that anyways? EuroCarGT 00:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think there is an easy way to retrieve the number of reverts you made under that account. That is in part, because there is no easy definition of what constitutes a revert, much less one that a tool for parsing your contributions could understand. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 13:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Rescuing information and sources from a page that may be deleted
Dear editors: This article: Himanta Biswa Sarma is short on reliable sources. On the other hand, this one: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Himanta Biswa Sarma, has some, and also is more extensive. Unfortunately, it's an old Afc draft about the same subject. Before the old draft is deleted, it seems sensible to transfer any useful parts of the second article to the first. The instructions on merging articles assume that both articles have different titles, and that one can be made a redirect containing the original edits in its history for copyright reasons. Would it be acceptable to move the draft to "Himanta Biswa Sarma (politician)", then move the useful content to "Himanta Biswa Sarma" and make the other article into a redirect? Bill william compton has offered to work on the article, but neither of us is sure how to do this properly. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- One way to do it is to approve the draft to mainspace and then immediately tag both it and the existing article with "Merge" templates. Such a merge doesn't need to be discussed before doing it because content forks are not allowed by policy. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, Roger, that's what I thought. The merge instructions say to make the secondary article into a redirect. Should the primary article be the one with (politician), or should that be the redirect and the primary article just have the name? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Anne Delong: Parenthetical qualifiers like "(politician)" are for disambiguation, not for direct information: compare Barack Obama to, say, Barack Obama (politician). So the (eventual) redirect should be the article with "(politician)" in its title. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
History of 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division in Vietnam
Your subordinate unit listing is incomplete. There was a "Delta" Company. I was a member of that company and we landed by C-130 aircraft at the air base in Danang on January 21st, 1965 as a "reinforced" company to guard the air base. Your history of our combat role is completely devoid of this and other facts. See also the "stories" of Marines from that unit on their website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 980richardm (talk • contribs) 04:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Even though it has over four million articles, Wikipedia is far from complete, but getting better all the time. If there are published sources such as news reports, military magazine articles or books in which authors have written about this unit, then some information about it can be added to the encyclopedia, along with references to these sources. I'm afraid that stories from the unit's members are not "independent", and can't be used as sources, although once an article or a section of an article is written about the unit, the web site can be added at the bottom in the "External links" section so that interested people can read the stories. —Anne Delong (talk) 05:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- It's not so much that they're not independent, as that they're not verifiable: if a reader in a month or a year or ten years reads the Wikipedia article, and wants to verify that it is correct, there will be no way to do so. (This is of course true for unsourced information, which is why we ask for all information to be sourced; but referencing an unverifiable or unreliable source is not more useful than unsourced information). --ColinFine (talk) 19:04, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Use of a user page
Dear editors: While looking through some old pages in Afc space, I found this one: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/INFO ON EXPLOIT GROUP which I believe should be deleted as an advertisement. However, the user has the same text on a talk page, User talk:Exploitgroup. Should it also be deleted? —Anne Delong (talk) 05:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, Speedy-G11 both pages and give the user a warning per WP:SPAMNAME too. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Blocked as a spam username, AFC page deleted. BencherliteTalk 12:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks to both of you. That's one more "abandoned draft" dealt with. 976 to go... —Anne Delong (talk) 17:42, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Need help in image replacement
Hi Guys,
There is an article over here on a firm called 'Ashghal' here is the link to that article Ashghal
Well, now the logo on the image has to be replaced on that article since the branding guideline of the Company has changed and so has their logo. Here is the link to that website where you can check out the new logo.. http://www.ashghal.gov.qa/en/pages/default.aspx
I cannot replace the image since I do not have a confirmed account and in order to have that I need to have done at least 10 edits.
Since the replacement of the image needs to be done ASAP, I will appreciate if I can have an assistance from those who have got a confirmed account.
I can provide the High-res image of the new logo based on request.
I will be glad having a prompt response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 06:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I will see what I can do.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I uploaded the new one. All the sizes on the net are small but it may be large enough for the article info box. If not just ask back at this help desk or email it to photosubmission@wikimedia.org.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
@Canoe1967 Thank you. I am glad to have your help in this regard. I have already emailed you the High-res image. Do let me know if that will suffice, and if it does then what will be the time margin required to replace the image.
- They can take a few days sometimes. Can you put it on the net somewhere for me to get? http://www.picatom.com/ and other sites are easy to upload to. Remember the code to delete it. I use Dropbox (service) but it takes a while to set up.--Canoe1967 (talk) 08:56, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
@Canoe1967 Hi. Well actually I emailed you the High- res image. However, I have also uploaded the image on a website you recommended. Here is the link http://www.picatom.com/2a/Logo-162.html I noticed that the logo in the info box has been replaced. Thanks a lot for it. Just a small query. why it takes certain number of days for the High- Res image to be published? Can you provide me an approximate number of days required needed so I can accordingly inform the concerned people. Appreciate having your response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 10:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Will the hi-res image be released under a license that allows it to be used by anyone completely freely? If not, it probably won't be allowed under Wikipedia's fair-use rules. Rojomoke (talk) 12:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- The biggest one on the net was only 132x75. We can reduce any version larger than 300px wide and then delete the revisions. The OTRS may do that before upload.--Canoe1967 (talk) 13:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I do want to point out to the original poster that language like "the replacement of the image needs to be done ASAP" and "Can you provide me an approximate number of days required needed so I can accordingly inform the concerned people" imply a false sense of entitlement. We are all volunteers here, operating under no deadline; and your corporate priorities do not obligate anybody here working on something else to drop what they are doing and rush to oblige, although several of our volunteers have in fact gone considerably out of their way to be of help here. A sense of perspective is in order. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
@Orangemike I apologise if the request has been in any appeared to be inconsiderable as I did not intend to communicate that way. I respect your efforts in contributing to the articles and I assure that my communication will not have such tone.
@Canoe1967 I like to point out something about the logo that there has been an error on the image which is currently used. The actual logo has a line between the English and Arabic text which is missing from the one currently used... the new logo can be downloaded through this link. http://www.picatom.com/2a/Logo2-17.html I will appreciate if this logo can be replaced. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 08:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
hi i am not understanding
i am not understanding trachtenberg division system so please explain that breifly as like mutiplication method — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.139.221.155 (talk) 07:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Does Trachtenberg system help?--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- If not, you should ask at The Maths Reference Desk, not here. This Help Desk is for assistance in writing Wikipedia articles. Rojomoke (talk) 12:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
referencing problems
can anyone tell me how to reference a 'citation needed' tag. i have tried to reference it following the 'reference for beginners'but it comes up on the page 'citation error' in red and it won't let me change it. i have the reference article all ready to go but it won't reference it in the list at the bottom of page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neilc123 (talk • contribs) 07:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
hi, i am trying to reference a 'citation needed' tag on 'football fan sub-culture'. i have the article for the reference and have tried to go through the 'reference for beginners' video but it won't actually list the article on the reference list. instead it just come up with 'citation error' in red at the end of the reference. can anyone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neilc123 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- The url was missing.
- <ref name="My Cat">{{Citation|year= |title= |publisher= |publication-place= |page= |url= |accessdate= }}</ref>
- This will use the above ref again:
- <ref name="My Cat"/>
--Canoe1967 (talk) 08:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
How to make my orphan article become not orphan?
What are the steps in making an article become non-orphan? Can you list the steps in detail please? Thank you so much I greatly appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindaYates13 (talk • contribs) 08:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- You need to link it in other articles. If your article is Willie Mays then put that blue link in baseball articles. Then they can find your Willy Mays article from the baseball ones. Try not to put it in unrelated articles or spam articles.--Canoe1967 (talk) 09:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Hotcat n/a ?
Hotcat no longer appears to work for me; I use IE8 and have checked my preferences, any ideas ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 09:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Toggling "Compatability View" fixed it ! Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 11:17, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Looking for an erased phrase in Timeline of World War II (1941)
Hello Good Helpers ! There was a phrase in that article , about Stalin broadcasting on the 3rd of July his second radio speech ever, but that phrase has been erased (& replaced by "Stalin announces a "scorched earth policy") , & I can't find it back. Can you ? Thanks so much beforehand for your help Arapaima (talk) 09:52, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I found the speech. Need another source showing which one it was.--Canoe1967 (talk) 12:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Wrong Information
Dear Wiki,
I'm one of Wiki's fan over the year, especially when I try to find something new, Wiki is always my number 1 reference.
Lately, something is bothering me, because I see my Wiki's company page is filled with wrong information. Every time, I try to change and give right information, someone is changing again in a brief of time. This happens over and over again.
I know the information is wrong, since I work there for quite a long time, and I have company identity and documents to prove it. And not in my attention to make that page as an promotional page. It is just weird to see wrong information about your company and it will mislead everyone that read it.
Is there any way that I can give the right information and protect it, others than change it over and over again ?
Thank you very much Wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adjimantoro (talk • contribs) 09:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- So far your only two edits with this account are here at the Help Desk, so I can't tell what page you're referring to. You don't mention whether you provided reliable sources for the facts that you updated/changed. Without references and sources, we can't just take your word for it. It would be best if you posted to the article's talk page (see the top left of the article page where it says "talk") with not only your updated info but also where someone might verify that information. The reason I suggest that you post on the talk page instead of making the edits yourself is due to your conflict of interest. Dismas|(talk) 10:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
How to tackle a conflict of interest?
A new user with the very unsubtle name NEC Australia has just edited the article Ultranet, in good faith but with obvious commercial intent. I'm not au fait enough with our templates and stuff to know how to formally but politely tell this user they need to change their approach.
Can someone with greater knowledge in this area please either sort this out, or point me at how I can best do it? (Don't make it complicated for me. I don't have time to learn new stuff right now.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HiLo48 (talk • contribs) 10:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well, it's a bit too late now. They've been blocked. And I know you don't have time for much new stuff but here's a quick tip. If you put their username in curly braces like so: {{user|NEC Australia}}, then it produces links to their user page, talk page, and contribs like so: NEC Australia (talk · contribs). Dismas|(talk) 10:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Setting up page.
I am not sure that i have started correctly, and formatting everything in the correct way. Also my surname Hillary has appeared with a small h, and I can't alter it. Regards, Moray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moray hillary (talk • contribs) 10:32, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- You seem to be trying to use your user page as an article. The purpose of a user page can be seen at Wikipedia:User pages, and in particular the section WP:FAKEARTICLE. In any case, you should not be trying to write an article about yourself, see Wikipedia:Autobiography and WP:conflict of interest. For changing your user name to include a capital letter for your surname, see Wikipedia:Changing username. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have moved the user page content to a user sandbox at User:Moray hillary/Sandbox.--ukexpat (talk) 13:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Need new logo on 'UAS Laboratories' page
THe new logo can be found on uaslabs.com's current page - it is only a splash page but that one is correct.
Thanks,
Matthew (from UAS Labs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.178.65 (talk) 14:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Interlink
In the past I used to interlink my pages very easily. But now whenever I try to interlink a page what I get is an unexpected error message (both here and in wikidata) . Any suggestions ? Thanks. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- You recently added a link to 10th government of Turkey. It works correctly for me. Maproom (talk) 15:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I assumed that the OP was talking about inter-wiki links, hence the mention of Wikidata? - David Biddulph (talk) 15:56, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have created a Wikidata entry for 10th government of Turkey at d:Q14623493.--ukexpat (talk) 16:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Account update
How does one regain access to their previous account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.212.151.98 (talk) 16:36, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- What is the username? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:09, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Ashmore Group logo
Hi I work for Ashmore Group adn I have left a message about changing/updating our logo but havent recieved a reply yet. How can i send you/upload our new logo please?
thanks Kate Whittaker Kate Whittaker (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Do you have a link to it, where I can download the image then upload it? After I've uploaded it, see WP:CONSENT, where you can get the copyright owner in your company of the logo to give us copyright permission to use the logo, rather than us using fair use. Thanks, Insulam Simia (talk) 16:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Insulam Simia very kindly replied to my message but I cannot work out how to reply. I am sorry but I am a very new user. I am sure it must be something obvious. Kate Kate Whittaker (talk) 17:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just reply by clicking 'edit source' which is located on the section heading (which is above) at the right (also indent your message by placing two colons before your message) . Insulam Simia (talk) 17:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I managed to replace the logo.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you both so much! It hasn't updated yet - does ittake a little while? Kate Whittaker (talk) 08:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- You are very welcome. You may need to refresh your browser. In Windows Explorer it is a circle arrow up at the top left beside the url address. I see it fine so others should as well.--Canoe1967 (talk) 08:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Need help with issues on an article
I am trying to address the two issue alerts that appear at the top of the page I manage for one of our company's owners: Jennifer Borg
After reading through the requirements and instructions and adding more citations to the page, these alerts still appear.
Can you please advise what further steps I need to take to satisfy the requirements?
Alerts that appear at the top of the page:
This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. (September 2012)
The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. (September 2012)
Thank you so much for any help you can offer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizowen (talk • contribs) 17:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- One thing which you will need to address is the difference between external links and references. We do not include external links within the body of the article. You also need to read, if you haven't done so already, the guidance on editing where you have a conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Liz, but you are under a misapprehension. You do not manage any page in Wikipedia (and nor does anybody else). As somebody with a conflict of interest you are a less appropriate person to edit that article than most user, not a more appropriate one. As to your specific question, warnings like that are almost completely manual: a human editor added them, and a human editor can remove them. This could be you, if you are sure the issues have been addressed; but because of your conflict of interest, it would be a bad idea for you to do so. What is needed is solid, substantial discussion of the subject in reliable sources (such as newspapers or books independent of the subject), and you could contribute powerfully to the article by identifying these, and posting them on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 19:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
John grant (footballer)
I'm here to report redalert92 who is responsible-editing my profile with out my authority to do so, I am john grant and I'm able to edit my own profile with out his in put — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.149.6 (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- You cannot just 'command' users to stop editing your page. Indeed, he is certainly in the wrong, as it is pretty obvious why you are removing it, but still. Also please see WP:COI. Insulam Simia (talk) 17:32, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I assume that you are referring to the article John Grant (English footballer)? That is an article in an encyclopedia, not a profile on a social media site, and you need to understand that, even if you are the subject of the article, you do not own the article, and in fact you need to be very careful as to whether you ought to be editing it at all. You need to read the guidance on conflict of interest. The other editor does not need your authority to edit the article, providing that the material which he includes is supported by references to published reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC) Thanks to Anne Delong for pointing out my typo in omitting the significant word "not" from my reply. Corrected now. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Rescuing article history of a page that's being reused
Dear editors: This article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jeff Halevy (2) has the edit history for this article Jeff Halevy (Personal trainer), which was cut and pasted by a different user to mainspace and then improved. For copyright reasons, the edit histories of the two pages should be merged. However, the user has made one edit changing the first page into an article about a Michael Jackson recording. This really should have been done in a sandbox or user page. Is there any way to create such a page and move the one Michael Jackson edit there, while retaining the name of the editor with it, so that the rest of the page history can me merged with the mainspace article? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:54, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- There isn't enough of the Michael Jackson edit to be worth saving, so that should just be reverted as irrelevant to the page that it's on. If there's a tangle to be sorted out with the other material, Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen is the place to report it. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Is it copyright to copy word by word text from a source such as a book?
Just say for example "Elvis was known as the King" you put in an article and the cited book said "Elvis was known as the King" is this considered copyright or are you allowed to copy word by word text from the book or whatever you use as a source?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 18:46, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- You'll find useful advice at Wikipedia:Plagiarism. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- First of all, copyright is the right of the author to restrict copying by others. If someone who does not have permission from the author copies in a way that violates the copyright law, that is a copyright violation.
- An author can only restrict copying, not independent recreation. So if someone writes "Elvis was known as the King" without knowing someone wrote that first in a book, it is not a copyright violation.
- Then there is fair use. It is allowed to copy a small amount of text from a book if you indicate it is a quote and give an inline citation to the book it is copied from.
- You can use as much information as you want from a book if you paraphrase it in your own words. Inevitably a few words in the paraphrased version will be in the same order as in the original; there is no hard-and-fast rule about how many words in a row can be the same as in the original before it would be a copyright violation. If your paraphrase were two short sentences, one of which was "Elvis was known as the King", and you didn't put it in quotation marks, that would be considered plagiarism. If your paraphrase were five paragraphs long, and the overall impression was it was substantially different from the book, having six words in a row that match the book might be OK, especially if the same sentence appears in several other books you consulted. Also, even if you paraphrase it, you should include an inline citation to the original to avoid plagiarism. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I edited Nazi_propaganda#Radio and most of if not all of it is exactly what it says in the book so I should alter it a bit or not?
Before Hitler came to power, he rarely used the radio as a form of speaking to the audiences, and then only in part nor did any non-party newspapers carry his speeches.[90] However, after 1933 his speeches became major events for the Germans, they were broadcast in full over the national radio, printed in every newspaper in Germany, shown in the weekly newsreels and reprinted in huge editions in books and pamphlets.[90] It became so widely spoken to the masses that even restaurants and pubs were expected to turn their radios on when Hitler spoke and some cities even erected loud public speakers so passersby could hear his speeches.[90] The extent after Hitler came to power that Nazi propaganda portrayed his speeches was that the key passages from his speeches appeared in the weekly posters with inspiring quotations and hung all over Germany by the hundreds of thousands.[90]
I didn't know you could not copy the exact words from the book, should I alter this then into my own words to avoid violation?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 19:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict)::In general, as I understand it, you most definitely may not copy into Wikipedia text (or images or sounds) from any source that is in copyright. That would constitute a copyright violation, which since it puts Wikipedia on the wrong side of the law is severely prohibited. In some circumstances it may be OK to quote, with quotation marks and full identification of the source, limited amounts of text from copyright sources. Older works such as books whose copyright has expired can be copied freely; but to be honest it isn't often useful to do so. If you think you've come across copying of the kind you mention, you should tell someone about it. If you need more advice, please ask. There are experts on this topic (of which I am most definitely not one) who will be able to answer any question. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:10, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Please see wp:PARAPHRASE LeadSongDog come howl! 19:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Reply to Andrew Dorsons: I believe your best course would be to remove everything you added, and then add it back, bit by bit, using your own words and checking as you go along that they are not the same as the words in the book. HTH, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I will do that now and understand it more clearly, thanks very much!--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 19:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Can I use this picture or not, I'm a little confused?
I want to use this photo in particular and was wondering if its okay to use can anybody help me and confirm?
http://www.dhm.de/lemo/objekte/pict/625_2/index.html
It is taken from http://www.dhm.de/lemo/html/nazi/innenpolitik/rassenpolitik/
It is also used on this website http://wizard.webquests.ch/schulens.html?page=10346 and links to ^, is it okay to use this picture??--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 18:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the sources seems to be the DHM, Deutsches Historisches Museum, and it says Copyright DHM on the page. Unless this picture is illustrating something that there's no free equivalent for, I wouldn't use it. What were you planning to use the image for? Howicus (talk) 18:58, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I was going to use it in Themes_in_Nazi_propaganda#Racial_pride and because the children were taught this in the schools.--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 19:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well, since that's a fairly general topic, there's probably an alternative public domain or compatibly licensed image out there, so I'd recommend against using that one. Howicus (talk) 19:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I've actually tried looking, could you give me any directions to where I can could find the image I've tried Wikipedia Commons to no luck. :(! I think it would look best suited in that bit since it was a key and essential thing and displays it very accurately.--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 19:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I've tried looking around as well on Flickr but cannot find it at all, the rassenkunde image of the woman to the board seems difficult to find.--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- The photograph is from 1943, would this even still be copyrighted? (Germany is 25 years from the date of publication) In any case, as a historical photograph I would think fair use would be a fairly easy bar to cross. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Gaijin42, how do I go about using this image then because I have looked at images to use on "racial pride" towards the Nazi racial biology bit 'racial pride' on Nazi themes and this picture looks very accurate and good to use for this exact bit, how do I go about putting this onto Wikipedia?
Also, could you look at my talk page User_talk:Andrew_Dorsons and tell me if I have done something wrong because some user has went out of their way to keep reverting an image I used that I allegedly used it as non-free image usage policy but on their talk page their have done this several times to other users and their have said that their will report me for personal attack but I am new on here so don't know if I have broke any rules on here???--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 21:02, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I believe copyright in Germany is life +70 years - at least that is what our article here says. I can't immediately find a date of death for Liselotte Orgel-Köhne, but she published a book in 1980. She could well be still alive. I don't myself think you have much chance of constructing a fair-use rationale for that image, but I'm no expert. You could perhaps try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Images and Media/Non-free. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Unless someone from the DHM took the picture or the photographer gave copyright to DHM, the claim of copyright that DHM makes is unenforceable — it appears that they simply scanned it. That's completely different from the photographer's rights, which are definitely enforceable, and it's definitely still under copyright in any life+70 country. Nyttend (talk) 23:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Some of the replies are confusing and contradicting each other. So am I not able to use this photo under any circumstances for the purpose of the Themes of Nazi propaganda under their "racial pride" since essentially this photo demonstrates quite clearly how the youth were taught from a very young age to understand the racial differences among the peoples (i.e Germans and Jews).--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 09:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- That is not the reason you are not allowed to use it. As has been explained above, you are not allowed to use it because the owner of the copyright has not granted permission for its use. Maproom (talk) 10:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
But someone earlier on said since its a historical photograph it could easily pass for fair use?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 10:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, it is possible that person could be mistaken. On Wikipedia, it is actually relatively hard to meet the requirements of fair use. There is some more information about this at WP:NFCC. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:23, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- It's also worth noting that Wikipedia's non-free use criteria are stricter than "fair use" as that term is used in copyright law.--ukexpat (talk) 16:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
So the conclusion is I cannot use this picture under any circumstances, correct?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 17:27, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Werieth gave you a link to WP:NFCC#8 which says "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Your use of this photo may be justified because it doesn't merely show that children were indoctrinated in schools but shows specifically how they were taught to classify people by race. While you could write some text about how children were shown collections of photos of people, I feeel that this picture shows it in a way that will be more readily understandable. —rybec 18:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Latina
I heard so many things from anita kelvin, about DR obosianzen from <redacted> and every story about him has been so great. so here is my story me and the father of my son has been off and on for 3 years its been a very stressful relationship. he cheated on me and I was very hurt, it was miserable for me so in returned I cheated because I wanted him to feel the pain but he never cares so we went apart, so he went back to his ex.i wanted him to leave her and let us come back together, I love him so much and I just want him to feel the same way i feel for him, luckly for me DR obosianzen was the one who brought my lover back to me, he is a good spell caster. his contact address is <redacted> .you can still save your marriage if u really love your husband or your wife41.203.69.3 (talk) 19:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- This IP address is from Nigeria. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
My name is Mrs Khatooum sheik from Saudi Arabia.
Am the lady you helped two months ago 14th of June -2013 who was crying for poverty and divorced from my husband, Doctor SAMBA i have forwarded this testimony from the bottom of my heart , since you helped me i have never turn back in poverty again , i contacted you after being divorced from my husband who left me when i was 6 months pregnant and i had to borrow $750 the price you asked me to send for the items that was require by the spirit . When it took long time to finish the process i thought you have scammed me as the previous spell caster the one i contacted before , i prayed to allah to give me a strong heart of believing in you and i patiently waited until i saw unbelievable miracle from you with amount of money from your spiritual ancestors, may your ancestors be praise believe me whose so ever that is reading my testimony , since then i have never suffered again, and my husband come back to me i can now feed 2 full masjid is in my area food; a day which i never believe that i can do it before .DR SAMBA for that. may allah bless you again and again Insha’Allah . Me and my husband are planning to come and visit you next year,insh a-allah . oh i forgot to mention that i invested mostly in properties and din. Insah allah As you told me to do, you also can contact him on his email address VIA, <redacted>41.203.69.3 (talk) 19:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- This IP address is from Nigeria. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
How to add icons to portals
I forgot how to add images to portals, and I want to add an icon for Portal:New Caledonia in place of the puzzle icon. What do I need to do?
Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 20:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- @WhisperToMe: I think you create Template:Portal/Images/New caledonia, copying the format of the other subpages listed at Template:Portal/Images. ~HueSatLum 00:49, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you! WhisperToMe (talk) 02:23, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Tracing names
- Heading added by ColinFine (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
im looking for help tracing two names the first one is Spendlove and the orther Vicount i would love to know where these names come from and what they mean they are two boys names i was told they could be German but cant find anything on them at all can you help please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.73.24 (talk) 21:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- We don't seem to have articles on these names, though we have one about the title viscount (note the spelling). You could try posting your question at the reference desk. This page is for help about editing Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
A photo with NO copyright problems has been removed; please help
This inquiry involves the page Nicholas Johnson. The photo of myself which I uploaded there yesterday [August 18]: file:Nicholas Johnson.jpg -- has now been removed.
I am the Nicholas Johnson in the photo, and the Nicholas Johnson to whom the Wikipedia page refers.
This photo does not, and could not, have any associated copyright problems.
I am Nicholas Johnson. The photo is of me. I possess the picture. It was not taken from any publication or online source. Thus, as I explained on the forms yesterday, any necessary "copyright" (or "license") for this purpose belongs to me. It was taken by a family member (my sister-in-law) with the understanding I could use it for any purpose I wished. It was not the work of a professional photographer nor done in a photo studio; it was not done by a photographer for a newspaper or magazine. She took the picture with the intention of giving it to me, which she did; she sent it to me; she had no other purpose, nor use for it. She knows I have it on my hard drive. She knows, and approves, that it is the picture I use on my blog, http://FromDC2Iowa.blogspot.com, on the back covers of my books (see, e.g., http://www.amazon.com/Nicholas-Johnson/e/B00B138MYQ), and on a Facebook page, https://www.facebook.com/NicholasJohnsonIowa?ref=hl Indeed, she is flattered I have chosen to use it for these purposes. I would like to use it on my Wikipedia page as well -- and as of yesterday had done so, until it was removed.
I really don't know what more I can provide to convince you there is no copyright problem here. Surely there are other instances in which those who have Wikipedia entries about them have used family photos on their pages. Although I would acknowledge that it is hard to know how to provide this kind of information about a source given the options on your forms.
So why is this coming up now? Because I noticed yesterday that when one searches Google for "Nicholas Johnson," not only are the first five or so hits sites of mine, but Google now provides, in the right hand column, additional information about me, along with a picture, however, of someone who is NOT me. When I saw that most of that information came from Wikipedia, I went to my Wikipedia page and discovered that it had no photo -- a logical explanation for why Google, relying on the Wikipedia page, might have ended up with a picture of some other Nicholas Johnson. Well, I thought, I should upload to Wikipedia an actual picture of me so that so long as Google is inserting that information on the search page they would at least know what picture to use.
So that's the story of the photo, why it does not involve any violation of Wikipedia's standards, and why it came to be uploaded.
Please let me know how we can proceed to get it uploaded once again -- without, hopefully, going through the same process I did yesterday and that is unlikely to be any more successful if I do the same thing over again.
Thank you.
Nicholas Johnson Editor52 (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2013 (UTC) Editor52 (talk) 22:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Nicholas. Your photo was deleted as a copyright violation, either in error (Wikipedia is run by volunteers) or because you did not give enough information when you uploaded it, so that it had the appearance of being in violation of copyright. I will leave a note for the person that deleted it and perhaps they will undelete it. Thanks. Formerip (talk) 22:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- To convince us, do one of the following, preferably both: a) go to your bolg and, immediately below the image in question, add a note to say that the image is Creative Commons licensed {{cc-by-3.0}} with a link to the licence details or b) upload - to the Commons - the original image raw image off your sister-in-law's camera. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:22, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
RHaworth: Thank you very much for your help. I have followed your suggestion, and done what you describe as "a" (including, of course, the link, as you request). ("B" looked like it would dump me right back in the soup.) I will check back on my Wikipedia page from time to time to see if the photo reappears -- and then see if Google is able to pick it up! -Nicholas Johnson Editor52 (talk) 00:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Nyttend has taken care of it. --NeilN talk to me 00:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Uploading a photograph
I have created an entry for a writer, and she sent me her photo to upload. This photo is also available publicly on her website. I uploaded it by loading first on Wikipedia commons . After a couple of months, the photo disappeared. I assume it was removed due to copyright? I uploaded it again, this time not thru Wikipedia commons, and now I only see the name of the file but no photo! (its for an entry shanta acharya)-Please can someone help as I don't have the time and expertise to be trying to sort this out. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDash100 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- You hadn't changed the article to call up the file name of the newly uploaded photo; it was still calling up the old file name. I've changed that for you. You do, however, mention copyright, and I fear that your new photo may disappear, as you have claimed that it is public domain but given no justification for that claim, and you say it's from the author's website, which says: "... Except as noted above, no part of this website is to be reproduced, stored in any sort of retrieval system or transmitted in any form or by any means, without the prior written permission of the relevant copyright holder." - David Biddulph (talk) 22:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- and what David didn't say is that the copyright holder telling you that you have permission to upload it on Wikipedia is not enough in two ways: first, we have no way of knowing who you are and what she has said to you; and second, permission to use on Wikipedia is not enough. Please see WP:Donating copyright materials for what would be needed. --ColinFine (talk) 15:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have moved the file to File:Shanta Acharya.jpg which is a more descriptive and accurate name. But it will be deleted without the appropriate permission.--ukexpat (talk) 16:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
How to publish an article?
I have an article developed in the sand box, have made 11 edits and the process has involved more than 4 days.
I can not find a place to upload the srticle HTML created in the sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bertmbc (talk • contribs) 23:21, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- The text you have in your sandbox at User:Bertmbc/sandbox is not at all suitable for a Wikipedia article as it stands now. I've left a welcome message on your talk page which might help explain why and give you some help as far as what direction you need to go right now. Dismas|(talk) 23:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Rather than uploading anything, I think you need to use the procedure described at WP:MOVE. Good luck! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Having said that, User:Bertmbc/sandbox is not a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article. Maybe it should go on WikiSource instead? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
August 20
Still not added
Hi Guys, I see my page Kristina Hughes still has not been added.
Can you assist me? I'd love to update it.
Thanks, ~Kristina — Preceding unsigned comment added by KristinaHughes (talk • contribs) 00:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Please see WP:AUTO and read Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kristina_Hughes for why the article hasn't been created. Writing an article about yourself is never a good idea. --NeilN talk to me 00:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
James Lafferty
Hello I was wondering if you could post a picture of James Lafferty. Please and Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.144.181 (talk) 00:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:First_steps That should help. Commons is the repository for most of our pictures.--Canoe1967 (talk) 09:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
How do I remove my wikipedia account?
How do I remove my wikipedia account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueScreen (talk • contribs) 02:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- You can't remove it, but you can flag the account as retired, or take the right to vanish. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
"USER:SA Brit/sandbox"
Hi, I was helping my friend make an entry on Wiki, and neither of us can figure out how to name it properly. The title of the article comes up as "USER:SA Brit/sandbox" and this is clearly not the intended title. We designed it to be called "International Clinics in Beijing." Thanks for any help you can provide on this matter, Z — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiser2001 (talk • contribs) 03:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- When you think that the draft is fit to be submitted for review, you can put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the article, and then someone will probably move it first to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/International clinics in Beijing, & then (if acceptable) to International clinics in Beijing. Note that we use sentence case, not title case, so it would be International clinics in Beijing, not International Clinics in Beijing. The same applies to section headings, so (for example) you should change "Prominent International Clinics and Hospitals in Beijing" to "Prominent international clinics and hospitals in Beijing"; this is covered in the WP:Manual of Style. Another point which you ought to address is that your references are currently bare urls, or even incomplete urls such as www.imcclinics.com; you ought to expand them with additional information, the easiest way being the use of {{cite web}}, perhaps through the referencing toolbar, see Help:Introduction to referencing/3. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:30, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- @SA Brit and Wiser2001: I suggest taking a look at WP:NOT - specifically, that Wikipedia isn't a directory, a guide, or a dictionary. In this case, unless there are newspaper and magazine articles about international clinics in China in general (so that the term is defensible), and similarly articles about these particular clinics, you're quite unlikely to have this article approved; and if you create it yourself, to have it survive very long. (About a thousand articles are deleted from Wikipedia every day, and that doesn't count articles that don't make it out of sandboxes and WP:Articles for creation.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
UPDATING AN ARTICLE ON ME
Hello. May I call your attention to an article about me on Wikipedia:
The CV at the end of the article is long out of date. Can you advise me on how the current version of my CV could be substituted for the old one?
Thank you. 2605:A601:111:401:E151:990C:C3B8:3EA3 (talk) 05:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for not updating the article yourself – Wikipedia disapproves of people making changes to articles about themselves. The correct thing for you to do is to describe the changes you want made on the talk page associated with the article about you, Talk:Thomas_Sheehan. If possible, please provide references. Then a helpful and impartial editor may update the article itself.
- (There used to be a problem here, the "talk" tab at Thomas Sheehan was wrongly redirected to Talk:Tom Sheehan (politician). I have deleted the redirect. I hope that was the best way to fix it.) Maproom (talk) 07:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Signature
Help me how to make a signature — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.179.160.213 (talk) 07:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Type 4 tildes at the end of your message ~~~~, or use the signature icon in the edit toolbar at the top of the edit window. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)You need an account to have what most people consider a signature. Though you can always sign your posts using four tildes, like so ~~~~ Which in my case yields: Dismas|(talk) 09:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Image correction on the article
Hello,
I like to point out something about the logo on Ashghal's info box- Ashghal There has been an error on the image which is currently used. The actual logo has a line between the English and Arabic text which is missing from the one currently used... the new logo can be downloaded through this link. http://www.picatom.com/2a/Logo2-17.html I will appreciate if this logo can be replaced. Will appreciate your assistance- Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 08:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- I replaced it. The pictacom one was .jpg format that won't do the transparent background. If it needs to be transparent then use .png.--Canoe1967 (talk) 10:12, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
@Canoe1967 Hi. I wasn't aware of this technical aspect, I saw that the updated one is in .png, I believe you converted it in this format. Thank you for the assistance and prompt action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 11:30, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
How Do I Re-submit an article after making requested changes?
Frustrating. I provide all changes requested and there are no instructions on what to do next. No "resubmit" button. Please advise. Thanks. Montpine (talk) 10:56, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- There was a resubmit button until the relevant tag was deleted in this change. I've added it back again for you. You will want to read WP:referencing for beginners, a link for which is provided in the feedback box which you can now see again. As a less important point you should remove the leading spaces at the beginning of lines, as these are causing the formatting errors which you can see in your draft. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Please do not delete previous review boxes, they provide you with many links to useful information and guidance, they provide reviewers with information about the review history of the draft so that we can better help you, and finally they contain the resubmit button. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- The style of the article needs a lot of improvement. Why, for instance, does it start with a random remark about Denver? If that is where she was born, the article needs to say so. Maproom (talk) 12:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
City State link question
Which is correct to use [[Pierre, South Dakota|Pierre]], [[South Dakota]] or [[Pierre, South Dakota]] or is the answer that either is appropriate, just don't change it. The closest I can find is WP:SPECIFICLINK, but even that doesn't seem to quite align.Naraht (talk) 14:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- If the reader is likely to be interested in the state, as well as the city, then the former would be appropriate. If not, then the latter would be better. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- I personally don't like to see the city and state split as two links. One reason is that Pierre, South Dakota, looks like a single link that can be clicked anywhere to go to the city, but that's not true. A second reason is that this wikitext is less than clear to a new editor. I just assume that a reader interested in the state can easily get there with two clicks (to the city, then the state), if presented with a single link.-- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:07, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Missing article history?
Dear editors: I received on my talk page a thank you for creating this article: Palmetto Education Association. However, it is not an article that I wrote. I looked at the history, and the first edit is me moving the article from another user's sandbox into the Afc so that it could be reviewed. I am sure that I used the standard move method, since the default text is in the edit summary. What could have happened to the older history of the page, showing the original creation by the original user? Is there any way to change the attribution so that the correct editor gets credit for creating the article? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- You moved the author's sandbox to AFC where it was later moved to become American Teachers Association. The author then reused the sandbox (the opening item of the history being your page move) to create Palmetto Education Association. I've deleted the first few items of the history of the PEA artile to make it less confusing when looking to see who started the article. BencherliteTalk 15:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have moved hundred of articles out of sandboxes, and this is the first time this has happened.
Donating photos
Dear editors: I am creating an article about a geological feature, and my husband has taken two photos which he has agreed to donate to Wikimedia Commons to be included in the article. He doesn't have a Wikipedia account. Can I upload them myself and include the fact that the photographer has agreed to donate the photos? Or does he have to get involved himself (he'd rather not)? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- If your husband doesn't want to register a Wikipedia account, he could upload the images to another website, with a copyleft notice with the appropriate licence. Details of the options are at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, he has agreed to make an account. One more question: To donate photos, does he have to use his real name for a user name? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Another option would be for you to upload the images and for your husband to communicate appropriate permission to OTRS via the process described at WP:IOWN.--ukexpat (talk) 17:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- As long as the photos don't appear anywhere else in copyrighted form, he can use a user name rather than his real name. Looie496 (talk) 17:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Rock Paper Photo Edit
Hello, I work for Rock Paper Photo: Fine Art Photography. All I am doing is going to the wiki pages of our photographers and adding our site to their page. Apparently, because I am doing this to numerous pages in "rapid succession" it is considered spamming. I'm not trying to spam, I'm just trying to make clean edits. Is there a way for me to do this without getting "blacklisted?"
-Elana 50.74.5.67 (talk) 16:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry but, in general, external links should lead the reader to further (encyclopedic) information about the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:External links for what is acceptable.--Shantavira|feed me 16:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- No. You are spamming (whether you do it in rapid succession or not). Please revert your edits now. Wikipedia's guidelines are at external links. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- See MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/February 2012#rockpaperphoto.com; though it was left in three articles prior to your insertions. Dru of Id (talk) 16:31, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
References
Sir/Madam:
I am the author of an article submitted to Wikipedia about the Public Service Advertising Research Center which I founded nearly 20 years ago. The article was rejected due to not having references and as I review the article, I am not sure what needs a reference and would request that someone tell me what needs a reference so I can provide it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.188.185.195 (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
CURRENT CONGRESS:
How can I find out the congressman/women that have taken a JUNKET in the recent congress that could be considered out of line with the last resolution passed by congress to limit these trips paid by "other" and of course we their bosses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.187.137 (talk) 20:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Footnotes
Editors:
I can't seem to get the footnotes to come out right despite trying my best to follow the directions. Instead of each footnote appearing correctly, they all referenced the source in the first footnote and completely left out the content that was supposed to appear in the footnotes. I have tried to fix but cannot. The footnotes in the text looks correct but when I press preview it all comes out wrong. Help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsgwun (talk • contribs) 20:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Your problem was that you had {{reflist}} tags scattered like confetti throughout your draft. {{reflist}} should occur once, and that in the ==References== section near the end of the article. I've hopefully sorted that out for you, but you need to read WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:30, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Help to avoid deletion: Articles for Creation space
Hi,
I received a message stating "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/[my article], a page you created has not been edited in at least 180 days."
My article has been in the articlespace for some time. Is my article (which is about a magazine that's currently in circulation) in danger of being deleted? Or does it just need to be removed from Articles for Creation space? I'm not clear on my next step. Do I need to edit or add to the magazine's Wiki page? I want to ensure that the Wiki article that I wrote stays on Wikipedia.
Thanks in advance!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.22.153 (talk) 20:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Chemophobia page
Hello,
A page called "Chemophobia" has been put up there but a communications firm representing the chemicL Industry. it is a thinly veiled attack on science and scientists documenting health impacts from chemicals. The author "Grumpy Andy" works for a media firm which has been hired by the chemical industry and has just "reported" me to yo folks. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepheniehendricks (talk • contribs) 20:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- What you can do is comply with Wikipedia policy, which requires you to discuss contested edits, rather than edit-war. And for the record, I do not work for the 'chemical industry' - though I don't expect for one minute that you will believe this, since you are evidently batshit crazy. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)