Talk:Brian Epstein

Epstein?

The lead sentence here opens with "Brian Samuel Epstein (/ɛpstaɪn/)", giving the pronunciation of his name as Ep-Styne. This is the correct British English pronunciation, but according to an interview of a friend of his, Brian pronounced his name Ep-Steen, and would correct journalists, announcers, etc. who got it wrong. So maybe we should do the same... Swanny18 (talk) 21:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

While I have seen many an interview in which the guest's name is mispronounced by the interviewer, and the guest doesn't take it upon him- or herself to correct the mispronunciation, it seems fairly significant that all of the Beatles, Marianne Faithfull, etc., pronounce(d) their close friend's surname as [EP-stahyn] rather than [--steen]. If Brian had indeed been so keen to correct those who pronounced his surname as [--stahyn], how is it that just about everyone he knew says it this way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.151.5 (talk) 21:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

There's actually a line about this question in the play and film of Prick Up Your Ears! Could we track down Swanny18's "an interview of a friend of his"? /ɛpstaɪn/ is how it was pronounced in the 1960s by Epstein and by the Beatles, although I find this in the Spectator: "It is not entirely an American trend, for Brian Epstein, the Beatles’ manager, pronounced his name Epsteen." [1] Not sure if the Spectator is really a reliable source. Could someone check the Coleman biography as web comments suggest that's the source of /ɛpstin/?

As for correcting interviewers, John Daly in What's My Line? introduces his guest as 'Barry Epstein', to which Epstein corrects the first name but seems happy with /ɛpstaɪn/! [2] In the dramatisation In His Life: The John Lennon Story, some 58 minutes in, Epstein (played by Jamie Glover) corrects the pronunciation to /ɛpstaɪn/, and in footage about 30 minutes into The Beatles: The First U.S. Visit we see Epstein dictate his name as /ɛpstaɪn/ to his secretary who continues to use that pronunciation. --Cedders^tk 19:19, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

That last one sounds like a slam-dunk, and could if necessary be cited using {{Cite AV media}} (referencing the original release, not an unauthorised YouTube copy). Alternatively, if both forms were used and the sources are mixed, both pronunciations can be given with citations and perhaps an explanatory footnote. --kingboyk (talk) 21:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

NEMS

1) What ultimately happened to NEMS? 2) Is there enough material/justification for a separate article on NEMS? --kingboyk (talk) 03:36, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

commas

Jessicapierce is, of course, correct that direct quotes shouldn't be altered; I had supposed that the quotes were verbal rather than printed, so I changed them to be visually correct, but the point's no different. Although reverting the other corrections to reintroduce the comma errors is an unfortunate choice, I'm not sure many folks care (such errors are so common they're becoming mainstream), so, as the saying goes, "whatever". 2620:160:EB08:0:0:0:1:B2ED (talk) 17:03, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Beatles recording contract

As I discussed on the George Martin talk page, the story of how the Beatles received a recording contract was not properly told in public until Mark Lewisohn's 2013 book The Beatles: All These Years: Tune In. I am going to substantially revise the text of the article so that it aligns with what I added to the George Martin article. --Jprg1966 ^(talk) 03:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Does this make sense?

"It was revealed that he had taken six Carbrital pills to sleep, which was probably normal for him, but in combination with alcohol they reduced his tolerance."

Does this make sense? So the Carbritral reduced his tolerance for Carbrital? Dornwald (talk) 14:17, 5 May 2024 (UTC)