Talk:Chandra Khonnokyoong

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February 6, 2018	Good article nominee	Listed
August 23, 2018	Good topic candidate	Promoted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 8, 2018. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that an illiterate Thai nun* became a highly revered spiritual leader in her community, and more than 250,000 people attended her funeral?*
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POV: Sources

I'm not the most neutral guy when it comes to Dhammakaya sect, just getting it out of the way. So 6 out of 7 sources of this article came directly from Dhammakaya publication, of which the subject belongs to. This is akin to quoting Scientology book for L. Ron Hubbard biography.Suredeath (talk) 01:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have recently added citations about Chandra Khonnokyoong, most of which are readily available on the internet, to assuage Suredeath's suspicions. They now form half of the cited works. If there is no further discussion, I will be removing the POV tag at New Year. Thanissaro (talk) 08:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're not addressing the problematic sources, you're adding new ones. Thought legitimate, they didn't rectify the problems with the original cited from.Suredeath (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To satisfy Suredeath it would be really helpful if he could say what exactly about the data is controversial – and be specific about what would satisfy him. The information cited from the Dhammakaya Foundation's own works only refers to places, dates and names. The word controversy is usually applied to conclusions about the issues arising from the data – not the data itself. Generally speaking biographical data is written by people who know the subject of the biography. Thus Suredeath could perhaps find many other biographical articles on wikipedia where it would be very hard to justify the removal of POV tags. Thanissaro (talk) 10:45, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have now made many edits to improve readability, accessibility and neutrality. I believe the tags can be removed now and have done so. S Khemadhammo (talk) 03:19, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Bomb deflection claims

One of the more familiar and outlandish tales about Mae Chi Chandra (and the one most often ridiculed by Dhammakaya critics) has got to be the claims of her supernatural abilities, specifically how she deflected bombs from aerial raids, saving Bangkok during World War II. This is not mentioned in the article at all. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:34, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically, this is actually mentioned in several of the other related pages. But i guess mentioning it on this page as well would make sense. Wikiman5676 (talk) 07:09, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It used to be on the page, but I removed it per wp:BLP because it was unsourced at the time. If anyone has any info about this which is backed by reliable sources, please let me know or add it yourself.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 22:33, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I already added it Wikiman5676 (talk) 02:55, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okeedokee.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 18:08, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal change to shortened footnotes

I'd like to use shortened footnotes in the article using the {{sfn}} template. I think this will look more organized. Let me know what you guys think.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 15:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 11:26, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:26, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

General

Not an issue for GA, but is there any reason why you chose "mae ji" as the transliteration here, unlike the other two articles I've reviewed?

No reason. Someone else started the article, that's why. Fixed per Talk:Maechi#Requested_move_24_April_2015.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 00:10, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

She had no formal education, as this was uncommon for Thai women in those days: suggest "Like most Thai women in those days she had no formal education".

Done.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 00:10, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Setting up a new meditation centre

There are a couple of uncited sentences in the "Setting up a new meditation centre".

Fixed.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 00:10, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Luang Por Dhammajayo and Mae Ji Chandra took responsibility for the finances of the establishment, and the lay-supporter, who later ordained as Luang Por Dattajivo, took responsibility for building on the site: saying "the" lay-supporter implies he's already been mentioned; should this be "a" lay-supporter, or does it refer to someone named above?

No, it doesn't. Fixed.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 00:10, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's everything; the article is in good shape. Mike Christie (talk – contribs – library) 12:04, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 00:11, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Passing. That was a bit quicker than the previous two! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:33, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 08:30, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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File nominated for deletion on commons

The file c:File:Maechi Chandra Khonnokyoong teaching meditation using kasina object.png has been nominated for deletion on Commons 
Reason: Although the source YouTube video is labeled as Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed), I don't think this image belongs to the uploader of this YouTube video. Looks like c:COM:LL to me. 
Deletion request: link

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Photo

The previously used image was deleted from Commons, but a non-free image could be used under fair use terms. To upload a file locally, use the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. Choose "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use" and then select "historic portrait of a person no longer alive". The image should be scaled down to a low resolution, but if not a bot should take care of that. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:12, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Paul.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 08:25, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Paul, do you think we could upload any image from this page locally in this way?--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 10:23, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria includes "minimal usage". The main portrait at the beginning would work best, I think. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:39, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But that is a derivative work. Could that be a problem, Paul? Sorry for the list of questions, but I have very little knowledge about the subject of copyright.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 16:08, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, not sure if I wasn't clear—I was referring to the picture with the blue background. In any case, if it's presumable that the image has been legally published, the image should be okay. We just need to list the correct author/copyright holder (as far as can be determined) on the file description page. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:16, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Let's see it is allowed, Paul 012. There is a logo on the picture which probably violates some kind of code... again.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 22:29, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]