Talk:David D. Clark

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Elephants

In a talk I am currently attending, David D. Clark just referenced this wikipedia article about himself, particularly the quote about elephants, standard bodies, and the apocalypse. He said the quote in the article when he looked at it was inaccurate and sounded absurd, and then said the correct quote was

"Writing standards was like being chased by the 4 crazed elephants of the the apocalypse," identifying the four elephants as 1. big companies like IBM, 2. big telecos like ATT, pushing their own protocols (like ATM), 3. formal standard bodies, like the ISO, and 4. venture capitalists ready to jump on and pump money into anything, possibly prematurely.

I hope we can integrate that into the article somehow. mac 17:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the first step would be to ask Dave to get it published somewhere -- even on his own Web page. Wikipedia probably still couldn't use it, as primary-source material, but (putting my Wikiquote hat on) it would be a good start to an article over there (along with "rough consensus and working code", which I know long predates the citation here). (I remember that there were "rough consensus" T-shirts at IETF meetings going back at least to 1996.) 121a0012 05:50, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Worth noting that DDC has put up a page on his site clarifying what the quote actually ought to be: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/ana/People/DDC/Apocalypse.html . I do think this should be changed, this apocalypse of two elephants stuff is just nonsensical. 143.215.130.152 (talk) 18:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]