Talk:Gardenia taitensis

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Is this plant found in Tahiti or not?

The article apparently contradicts itself on this point. First it states that "it is neither native nor naturalised in Tahiti". Then in the next sentence it says that "The... scientific name for the plant was based on Tahitian specimens". Then we are told that "it was also first collected in Tahiti".

If the plant isn't native or naturalised in Tahiti then how was it collected there? Was the plant being cultivated by Tahitians? If so it seems that it should be explained why it was cultivated. Is it a food source, a timber tree, a medicinal plant? Or did Tahitians really cultivate it for its aesthetic qualities? If so that is quite surprising.Ethel Aardvark (talk) 08:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the informations were taken from here [1] which is a relevant website concerning Cook Islands biodiversity. "Neither native nor naturalised in Tahiti" means if I well understood the sentence, that the flower was brought from Western Pacific by the first inhabitants of Tahiti and Cook Islands. The flower is abundant and the national emblem of both, Cook Islands and Tahiti. I will add that there is a bit of rivalry between Tahitians and Cook Islanders about the name of this important flower, "Cook islanders claim the tiare maori as their own rather than being a tahitian flower. It acquired the name in Tahiti because that was there the European botanist who named it, first saw it. Cook islanders say this flower was brought to the islands by their ancestors when they journeyed here from Avaiki" Patricia Numa, "Aite 'anga : symbols of national identity" in Akono'anga maori : Cook Islands culture. 2003. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nevers (talk • contribs) 13:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I'm stil a bit confused. Naturalised means the plant grows in the area without human assistance. If it isn't naturalised that means it is only found in cultivation or in towns. Given the similarity in climate of the two regons I would be skeptical that the plant has managed to remain "abundant" in gardens for centuries but has never become naturalised. But even if this is true the article still omits what seems like important information: why has this plant been grown so widely in Tahitian gardens for centuries that it is considered "abundant"? What use does it have? Is it a garden weed? A food crop? medicinal? It woudl; be nice to have this informationEthel Aardvark (talk) 23:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you can read french, you will have the answers to all your questions here http://www.agriculture.gov.pf/UserFiles/Fiche%20technique%20TIARE(1).pdf Nevers (talk) 11:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

INFUSION

Hello,

I understand that you can not make an essential oil from this plant, instead it's ingredient type would be "INFUSION" and the Extraction Method - 10% JOJOBA & SWEET ALMOND BASE. Can someone help me to understand this?

Thank you so much, CainO'

CainO's Health & Hearth — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.158.235.113 (talk) 01:28, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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