Talk:List of philosophies
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Additions
[edit]Added a number of prominent philosophies that had been excluded from the list. (How could anyone forget ontology and metaethics?) The Way 20:46, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Maybe someone should add primitivism?
Criteria for inclusion
[edit]I hesitate to start this argument, but this list currently includes at least four different kinds of thing:
- particular sub-disciplines of academic philosophy - metaethics, philosophy of art
- philosophical, ideological or religious positions - Marxism, Jainism, philosophical satanism
- national traditions of thought - Czech philosophy, Korean philosophy
- particular issues, mostly within academic philosophy - property dualism, qualia
I'm unsure that this makes for a useful list. Any thoughts, anyone?
Cheers,--Sam Clark 15:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
This list, it does seem is so redundent, to "List of belief systems". That has probably, everything that is here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.174.226.4 (talk) 17:27, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps removing positions and issues, as neither seem to themselves be "philosophies", the former being general approaches to various philosophies and the latter being considerations within those philosophies. Further, I don't see a difference between the Index of philosophy and this list if we have all four of those criteria--I mean, what else is there but those four things? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignotum per Ignotius (talk • contribs) 21:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Proposed deletion/move/merger
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was List of philosophical theories was an improper cut and paste move (in this case a cut and paste "merger") of the content of two articles, and thus created an article with illegal copyright attribution to the two histories it would have stranded, if it had been kept and the redirection of the two articles that were merged, not undone. It was decided to redirect at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of philosophical theories. I have undone your revival of the page and protected it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
List of philosophies → List of philosophical theories — This proposal is to merge the histories, not the content. The history of List of philosophies should be completely merged into the history of List of philosophical theories.Greg Bard (talk) 03:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
All those “Philosophy of”
[edit]Would think in this list, Philosophy of war ought to go under W, Philosophy of eating under E, and such. Hyperbolick (talk) 04:50, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Think I’m going to go ahead with this, if disliked, revert me. Hyperbolick (talk) 22:27, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Was some time ago, still going to. Hyperbolick (talk) 12:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Additions
[edit]First off a while ago I merged this list with the 'List of Schools of Philosophy'. It included schools of thought and schools of philosophy. As far as I'm aware there's no seperate page called 'List of Schools of Thought' so I assumed the community had decided there was no need for one or it wasn't a good idea to have it seperate. I would agree as it would be quite difficult to draw a hard and obvious line between a school of thought and a philosophy due to massive and nuanced overlap especially considering this website works with random public volunteers, public conflation of the two can be seen online. Thus a broader more inclusive page is better than a two narrow ones that are difficult to seperate leading to constant error prone contributions with subjects constantly going into the wrong lists or both. If you really want them to be seperate I can do so (especially if it's wikipedia policy, I'm not an expert with their rules), but pragmatically I don't think it's wise. Anyway because of this I'm following the requirments of 'school of thought', 'school of philosophy' or 'philosophy.'
Philosophy ('love of wisdom' in Ancient Greek) is a systematic study of general and fundamental questions concerning topics like existence, reason, knowledge, value, mind, and language. It is a rational and critical inquiry that reflects on its own methods and assumptions. Historically, many of the individual sciences, such as physics and psychology, formed part of philosophy. However, they are considered separate academic disciplines in the modern sense of the term.
A school of thought, or intellectual tradition, is the perspective of a group of people who share common characteristics of opinion or outlook of a philosophy, discipline, belief, social movement, economics, cultural movement, or art movement.
Changzhou School of Thought: First off it's literally described as a school of thought in the title, in it's page it is also compared as a competing school to schools described on their own pages as philosophical schools such as the Cheng-Zhu school as well as other schools of confucian philosophy that don't yet have their own pages.
Doubting Antiquity School: It is described as a historographical school of thought repeatedly. Their dealings in historiography as make it a philosophical view point as historiography is taken for granted as a philosophical method on the Philosophy of history pages. It also appears to me to deal with fundamental questions about knwoledge and our ability to have knowledge.
Kaozheng: Largely the same as the Doubting Antiquity School in character. One of it's sources is literally on the 'Chinese philosophy of history.'
Mitogaku: Explicitly called a school of thought. It is put on equal standing with Confucianism and Kokugaku which are both explicitly called philosophies on their respective pages. It is included in the category Japanese Philosophy
New Culture Movement: A broader movement that included the aforementioned Doubting Antiquity school, but also pulled from Confucianism, Communism and other philsoophical groups. Clearly it's a lot broader than just philosophy, but it also included philosophy within it and underpinned by one. It was also a discernable school of thought even though it was a broad one it had a specific perspective and lense through which it viewed and wanted to change China.
New Life Movement: A movement that pushed for Neoconfucianism (a philosophy) and sought to promote the philosophy of Chiang Kai Shek and his compatriots (their school of thought). It is included in the category contemporary chinese philosophy and new confucianism (another philosophy). It seem clear that is was a school of thought pushed through a movement to install a particular philosophy for which their is no unique page.
Qingtan: Literally explicitly described as a philosophy that arose from Xuanxue another philosophy. Included in three seperate philosophy categories.
Xueheng School: The opposing school of thought to the New culture movement, Explicitly called a school of thought. It came from New Humanism which is a philosophy that I will add as well. It was a group of people with a similar worldview, conservatism, pushing for the world to be a certain way under a certain philosophy.
I may be being confused so feel free to clarify if I'm misinterpreting, but I can't imagine why it would matter whether these philosophies are meaningful enough or philosophical enough. How would you even objectively measure that or enforce that as criteria? This is an encylopedia there should be some kind of intuitive and simple way to find what should or should not be included (Such as if the pages describe themselves as what the list is about). If they can plausibly be described as philosophies and/or schools of thought that's simply what they are as far as this encylopedia is concerned, they ought to be included. Maybe wikipedia's rules are different, but I couldn't find anything except some stuff about notability, but since all of these subjects have their own independent articles I think that implies that they're notable since that requirement also applies to page creation. GastonN'estPasBon (talk) 19:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)