Talk:Marianne Moore

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Undue weight

I would like to suggest that the section titled "Edsel consulting" is an example of undue weight, and should be either greatly shortened or eliminated. This was an extremely minor event in Moore's career, and it's already covered in the Edsel article, where it seems more appropriate. Unless I get objections here, I will shorten it to one sentence, with a link to Edsel for those curious about the whole story. Chick Bowen 05:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have now done this, since there were no objections. Chick Bowen 05:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merger with The Paper Nautilus

I oppose the merger proposed 2008-04-08. Moore's article would then be dominated by the discussion of a single poem, out of context with the massive whole of her poetic career. Easchiff(talk) 01:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why them??!?

Philadelphia?? St. Louis?GcT (talk) 12:52, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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two changes

i found two things i'd like to change in the 'Early life' section, but knowing how british editors can be sensitive about their language (the insular minority dialect) i thought it proper to post this first. in the second paragraph it states that her mother taught in a 'girls school'. in the u.s. form of the language (gringlish) that would be 'girls' school', with a possessive apostrophe, and in the third paragraph it states that she 'was graduated' from bryn mawr. in gringlish the active form is used, i.e. 'she graduated'. moore was a u.s. poet and hence i think perhaps the article should reflect her language, something very dear to a poet. i'll check back here in a few days and if there are no objections will make the above mentioned changes Potholehotline (talk) 17:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think your sense of U.S. usage (what you call "gringlish") is somewhat narrow. I have no particular opinion on the "girls school" matter, but "She was graduated" is perfectly good U.S. usage and may in fact have been preferred in the nineteen-oughts whan Moore was a collegian. See this Merriam-Webster usage note on the question. Deor (talk) 17:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deor cool, as a contemporary gringlish speaker i can tell you most any of us find 'was graduated' inordinately fey, i know i've never heard it used, and i figured wikipedia represents contemporary use. glad you had no objection to 'girls' school' Potholehotline (talk) 00:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deor hiya @deor, hope all's well with you and yours.

i hate to quote wikipedia chapter and verse at ya, but reading about mt erebus i ran into this, 'strong national ties to a topic'--

An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the (formal, not colloquial) English of that nation. For example:

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American Civil War (American English)

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Lagos (Nigerian English)

Muhammad Ali Jinnah (Pakistani English)

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Vancouver (Canadian English)

Wanchai Tower (Hong Kong English)

moore was born a gringa, lived and published in gringolandia and went and died there, hence i think it's pretty clear that her article should be in gringlish, and, though the merriam webster link you sent mentioned some use of ' to be graduated' in the u.s. the references were to style manual type literature, known to be notoriously prescriptive, and the grey box that initiates the article makes it pretty clear that the standard is without 'to be'. and again, having lived many decades in the states i never once heard 'was graduated'.

unfortunately the oed (in which, in spite of being a gringo i have infinitely more confidence than the merriam webster) didn't have any 20th century examples.

i would like to see the moore article lose that 'was', what do you think? Potholehotline (talk) 01:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still think "was graduated" is OK here. Let's see whether anyone else chimes in with an opinion. Deor (talk) 22:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]