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GA Review

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Passed. It is a wonderful world (talk) 15:01, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 01:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 23:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Criteria

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GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Comments

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Lead

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He began his career as a staffer for Senate minority leader Howard Baker, including as Baker's chief of staff: "later becoming" is more specific that "including"

from the accounting firm Deloitte & Touche: Unnecessary detail for the lead

His disagreement with, and subsequent refusal to extend the contract of, longtime athletic director Vince Dooley was unpopular among many: The comma after "of" is unnecessary and breaks the flow of the sentence.

Thank you for teaching me something new about grammar! I hadn't heard that term before. I am fine with it staying, but would like to clarify one thing.
When you remove non-restrictive appositives, it shouldn't change the meaning of the sentence, but I feel like in this case, the "subsequent refusal to extend the contract of" is a big deal and changes the meaning of the sentence. It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:28, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a fair point, I decided to restructure the sentence to eliminate the problem. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and education

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Afterwards, he earned a Master of Arts in communication research methodologies and a Doctorate in communications: "Afterwards" should be "afterward" in American English.

No worries, I had no idea either until it had a red squiggly line in my BrEng word processor one day. It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:08, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Political work and Pepperdine, 1974–1988

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Adams was the Republican nominee for Congress in Tennessee's 5th congressional district but lost the general election to the incumbent Democratic representative Bill Boner: Could do with a comma to separate the clauses, between "district" and "but".

Learned something new again, thank you. It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adams left Alexander's staff to accept a position as the vice president for university affairs at Pepperdine University. He was also a member of the Pepperdine faculty as a professor of political communication.: It's unclear if he held this position before leaving Alexander's staff, or whether he acquired this position at the same time as becoming vice president of affairs.

Centre College, 1988–1997

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Old Centre, the Carnegie Library, Horky House, and Combs Warehouse, underwent renovation and improvement during his tenure: Carnegie Library (Danville, Kentucky) can be wikilinked, "renovation and improvement" can be simplified to "renovation" for conciseness, and the comma after Combs Warehouse is unneeded.

Greek Row was established, with fraternities receiving newly built houses in 1995 and sororities receiving separate chapter houses for the first time since appearing on campus for the first time in 1980 the year prior: Not sure what's going on here!

Looks good now It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The former fraternity houses were converted into new dormitory buildings, named for Centre alumni and important figures: It is unclear whether they were just named after them, or built for them to inhabit. If they were just named after them, "named after" is much more common terminology than "named for".

  • The dormitory buildings were for students to live in. While I suppose it's not unheard of for non-students to live in dorms, I think the default for readers is that students lived in the college dorms, especially considering three of the four people I list as being namesakes for the buildings were dead by the time Adams' term at Centre started (and the fourth died three years in). I changed "for" to "after". PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 22:09, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I should have used my brain more when reading this! I do think changing "for" to "after" is better though. It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:35, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Centre had received multiple large research initiative grants from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute and the National Science Foundation: "Centre had received" can be "Center received". "Had received" would be used to emphasize that an action occurred before another past event.

and outraised a $60 million goal as part of their Front and Centre fundraising campaign: Front and Center should be in quotes.

No rule that I am aware of, I just felt like it should be (I should have been clearer that it was just my intuition). I agree it is better to stick to the formatting of the source.
When I wrote this review I accidentally deleted about 70% of it when I was about to publish it. I clicked backspace twice when not focused on the editing window, and lost the edit. Hence, I was pretty frustrated when typing everything out again, which might be why my tone is a bit off. It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:41, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The John C. Young Honors Program, named in honor of Centre's fourth president John C. Young, which provided a group of seniors with support in a research project, was established in 1989: I assume this program was established for the primary purpose of a supporting the research project, rather than it just being one of the several purposes. If that is the case and the source supports it, reorganising the sentence to something like "The John C. Young Honors Program, named in honor of Centre's fourth president John C. Young was established in 1989, to provide support for a group of seniors in a research project" makes this clearer. Also, is there any detail on what this research project is?

  • Fixed, though I added "of their choice" to make clear that they're not all working on the same project. The JCY program allows seniors to propose a research project, pairs them with a faculty mentor, provides them access to resources, and allows them to present their projects at the JCY Symposium each spring. The project differs student to student, it's a project of each individual student's choosing and design. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 22:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I see, shouldn't "project" be plural then? It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:46, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, switched from "in a research project of their choice" to "in research projects of their choice" and it sounds much better. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adams attracted some disdain from the faculty at Centre while there: after he made what were described by faculty members as unilateral changes to the faculty handbook, a move that violated college policy, a selection of faculty began what Rich Whitt described as a "quiet revolt":

  • "while there" can be removed for conciseness.
  • The colon is improperly used here has it does not introduce a list, explanation or quote. I think it should be replaced with a comma.
  • The source does not say that faculty members described them as unilateral changes. It was probably the source itself that summerised the changes as unilateral.
  • Attributing to "Rich Whitt" is meaningless if there is no context on who he is.
Looks good :) It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:48, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These included stints as a vice chair on the National Collegiate Athletic Association Presidents Commission, the Board of the National Association of Independent Colleges and Universities, the Board of the American Council on Education, the Board of the Kentucky Center for Public Issues, Leadership Kentucky, the Executive Council of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools: The last list item needs an "and" before it.

He helped to reorganize, and was the first president of, the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference, of which Centre was a member.: The second comma breaks up the sentence flow unnecessarily.

All good It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

University of Georgia, 1997–2013

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Ultimately, he was selected, and he was announced as UGA's incoming president on June 11, 1997,[3] an announcement that surprised many UGA faculty: "an announcement that" can be replaced with "which".

large flagship universities: "large" can be removed for conciseness.

and took office as UGA's twenty-first president: "21st" is used earlier. Pick a format to remain consistent.

Shortly into his stint at Georgia: Tenure is a better word than "stint", since it relates to educational employment. "Stint" is used a couple times.

Ah, nice to know. It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2003–04: "2001-2002" is used earlier. Pick a format to remain consistent throughout the article.

Franklin College of Arts and Sciences can be wikilinked

raised more money than it had in its history to that point I think "up to that point" would make this a bit clearer.

Athens can be wikilinked

"Regent's professor" should be Regents' professor and linked to distinguished professor?

Post-presidency, 2013–present, Personal life

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Do any sources explicitly state he has retired?

Sources

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[1]: Seems to be down

[2]: Good

[3]: Good

[4]: Good

[5]: Good

[7]: Good

[8]: Good

[14]: Discussed in comments

[15]: Good

[17]: Supported by page 33, not 34

[18]: Good

[19]: Good

[20]: The source says Patterson confirmed that Adams was a finalist, also it does not support that Adams was offered a raise.

[21]: The source does not say they audited especially those for travel, and payments to his wife. Those problematic expenses were discovered during the audit.

[24] and [25] need to be swapped, some of the information before reference [24] is supported by [25].

[26]: Good

[27]: The 92.1 figure was projected. The text does not state this.

[28]: Source says "about 35,000", text says "nearly 35,000".

Images

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Licensing looks good, pictures are appropriate and well captioned. I think there should be a picture of the University of Georgia though, perhaps of one of the five colleges he founded?

PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) Pinging you just in case you didn't see the review. It is a wonderful world (talk) 14:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world Thanks very much for the through review! Everything has been fixed or responded to, and I will see if I can get a UGA picture or two. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 22:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PCN02WPS This looks good for GA, there are just a few very minor queries above. It is a wonderful world (talk) 13:54, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@It is a wonderful world Thanks again! Those have been taken care of. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting, congratulations on writing a great article! It is a wonderful world (talk) 15:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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