Talk:Self-propelled anti-aircraft weapon

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Obsolescence

"The introduction of jet engines and the subsequent rough doubling of aircraft speeds greatly reduced the effectiveness of the SPAAG against attack aircraft." In Vietnam war 50-70% of the annual loss was caused by conventional anti-aircraft weapons (e.g. 23mm and 57mm automatic guns and KS-19 100mm guns; the vast majority without radar control). Therefore, this statement is not valid at all. See: Source1 source2 --Gabor vasarus (talk) 07:32, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge SPAAG into Self-propelled anti-aircraft

I propose merging that article into this one. There is considerable overlap, including self-propelled gun–missile systems. Keep in mind that the main article is still Anti-aircraft warfare, and this one just covers more specific information about vehicle-based systems. —Michael Z. 2005-12-21 21:13 Z

I agree. Bukvoed 21:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

roland

include Roland (air defence) here?

I disagree, Roland is an independent AA system and deserves its own article, this one is about the type. MoRsE 09:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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50 mm machine guns?

The article currently says "The turrets sported 4 parallel-mount 50 mm machine guns" but I think someone has mistaken .50 caliber (ie. ½ inch or 12,7 mmm) as standing for mm and not .5 inch. 50 mm would be a cannon caliber.--Sus scrofa (talk) 18:40, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it does sound like a mangled description of the M45 Quadmount. Some of the phrasing of the article is a bit clumsy, and the lack of references unfortunate. GraemeLeggett (talk) 18:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Avalon Hill Game

Really? a game as a reference for SPAAGs? 142.52.203.2 (talk) 22:59, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

agree a game can not be a sourceFrancomemoria (talk) 20:49, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is the ZSU-23 is a canonical modern SPAAG system or was it?

A figure caption in the text says "The ZSU-23 is the canonical modern SPAAG system". Reading the article on ZSU-23-4 I see mixed comments and get the impression that maybe it was but that it may be getting outdated even though it is still used and modernized.150.227.15.253 (talk) 09:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]