Why do you believe that some songs on LOSAM meet the criteria for vandalism on that list? I added numerous songs to that list and thought that those songs had something to do with masturbation (e.g. reference, metaphor, out-of-context), sometimes, when I hear lyrics of songs, I get some impression.
Dear Redwolf24,I am user:tdxiang.I would like to appeal to be an administrator,but how?
Sorry Tdxiang but you are rather new to Wikipedia. Administrators have to know Wikipedia inside and out. Until then, keep editing and keep contributing. Redwolf24 06:03, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
considering your msg to me wrt the bs page - since bs is a british band it is more appropriate to have the spelling in british as well. hence the changes. if I'm not mistaken this is in the wiki guide as well. Spearhead 30 June 2005 22:57 (UTC)
Thanks. Yes, the Mariah Carey article is a perpetual mess, as are a lot of the other music articles. Just looked at Black Sabbath and it's in the top 10%! Could use a couple more images though. Wasted Time R 1 July 2005 22:44 (UTC)
What do you mean by extentions? I might be able to help...
I saw your message on Jimmy's front page; When you say "extentions," do you mean that you want to create a sub-directory? If so, then simply put in the web address that you'd like to use, and it will pop up with a blank "edit" page, and you simply edit away. Does that help? You can answer me on my talk page and/or send me an email: Gww1210@aol.com --GordonWattsDotCom 2 July 2005 02:39 (UTC)
You're welcome. Got it working, I take it, eh?--GordonWattsDotCom 2 July 2005 02:46 (UTC)
Yup, and a Barnstar for you! Redwolf24 2 July 2005 02:47 (UTC)
I know you've been here for a while, but you said on Wikipedia:Welcoming committee that you were never welcomed. So I'd just like to say: welcome to Wikipedia! — Bcat (talk | email) 2 July 2005 23:03 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf24,
Thanks for the welcome. I actually joined Wikipedia a while back but hadn't logged in when I posted material. I wasn't sure why one even needed to log in, but now see that it allows users to follow the history somewhat more precisely.
My current question is how one can search ALL of Wikipedia for a specific name, term, phrase to find out what's available.
For example, if I wanted to search for Warren Burger, fomer Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, I'd probably find an individual listing for him. However, there might be no main entry for a person even though that person might be mentioned numerous times in articles about other things. And even if there is an entry for what you're looking for, there's no way to find all those other mentions unless links have already been established. Is there a way to do what I'm asking that I don't see?
I'm also wondering how to get the same effect as the HTML anchor code <a name="example"> which allows a user to jump directly to a specific spot on a page? Your command <div id="example">an id attribute</div> inserts a hard return <br> when one inserts it in the middle of text, forcing one to use it at the beginning or end of a paragraph.
--Snsnews 3 July 2005 06:28 (UTC)
You're very welcome for the welcome. Now for the questions... When you say search ALL of Wikipedia you mean like user pages and templates and everything? If so then when you search for something, scroll to the bottom of the search page and check all the boxes. If you meant to see pages that mention Warren Burger then go to his page and click "What links here" on the toolbox on the left side of the page underneath the searchbox. Oh, no way to find the pages unless links have been established... Most pages do link.
As for the jumping down to a specific part on a wikipage, just use [[User:Redwolf24#Heroes]] (Test it out even-->User:Redwolf24#Heroes) of course that's an example. Use the page then the pound sign (#) to whatever section. I think I've answered your questions. If not then reply. Redwolf24 3 July 2005 06:40 (UTC)
Thanks for welcoming me, Redwolf24. I'll try to do my best to do some good edits. :-) Forgotten the crackers 5 July 2005 19:48 (UTC)
No problem. If you wanna welcome people yourself just go to WP:WC and add your name to the list. Then you can make your own welcome or just use {{welcome}} Redwolf24 7 July 2005 03:37 (UTC)
I have no idea what just happened. I was googling, trying to find recent contact information on someone, and found myself in WikiWorld. What I read needed improvement, so I did.
I don't know where the tildes go or why, but thank you for the tip. Is there something else I should do? Will anyone be the least bit interested in my edit, or have a reason to alter it?
It's pretty late--I just realized it's July 9 and I thought it was still yesterday.
How do I add the article that I edited to my watchlist. When I click on "display and edit" it only gives me the option to delete.--Cynthia Morse 9 July 2005 09:13 (UTC)
Because of the hard work of WP:WSS, there is no longer need for substubs. Use {{stub}} instead, or preferably, a more specific stub template. Radiant_>|< July 9, 2005 10:05 (UTC)
Well yes I know about the {{Stub}} instead thing. Anywho, I read up on all that. However just saying {{stub}} seems like it brings up lots of work too. Anyways, thank you. Redwolf24 9 July 2005 10:07 (UTC)
Thanks for your supporting vote on my RFA! Talrias (t | e | c) 9 July 2005 13:31 (UTC)
No problem at all. I'm not sure if you're gonna pass because so many people judge based on edits rather than quality of them. Yes quantity is important but you've made the most of your edits. Good luck on it however and if it fails then try again in a month, I'll nominate you myself. Redwolf24 20:59, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
Its one of those situations where you know you're right but due to a fluke of policy your hands are tied. Bascially a user doesn't like the policies of a wikiproject I serve as coordinator for, and sought to create an alternative article, by turing a redirect to a preexisting article into a new article for his POV. It's somewhat complicated see the RFC for American West History, Geography section and User talk:Theresa knott#another bothersome request, sorry. Thanks for your concern. -JCarriker 20:21, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
Please don't leave Wikipedia based on someone being an idiot. We lose a lot of great editors that way but they don't see for every Competent User we lose there's a higher idiot ratio. Anyways I've got to run. Redwolf24 21:03, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't plan on leaving, however the deadlock at Talk:American West is narrow perhaps you would consider helping me out over there all we need is one vote for redirecting back to the original article (new material has already been merged). - JCarriker 21:07, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
K, good. I saw your friend Hephaestos and I feared you were gonna do the same. Redwolf24 21:39, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
Vancouveriensis article on Sir J.C. Bray sub John Bray
I just wonder if I made a mistake creating my article and submitting it before creating an account for myself as Vancouveriensis? I see that the new account is not credited with contributing the article, so I have edited it to include that information at the end, but this is only a makeshift attempt to rectify my omission.
Thanks. If it gets recreated again I'll protect. It gets a fair number of Google hits but the article isn't remotely encyclopedic. --FCYTravis 03:02, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I hereby award you this vandal whacking stick to help you in fighting the horde of vandals after you. --Essjay(YAY IM THE FIRST TO RECEIVE THIS *Does the Robot*)
Please explain someone!!! Redwolf24 06:17, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
You have a fan... or something >_> NickBush24 06:19, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Check [2], you seem to have attracted a crowd. Zscout370(Sound Off) 06:53, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
lmao. These crazy homophobes. Looks like I have 7 fans? Its a different (yet similar) IP each time. Maybe one guy owns seven computers. Or maybe theres a hate group working together in a basement. Redwolf24 07:00, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
More likely they have dynamic IP's and it keeps changing to protect them from being blocked. -- Essjay · Talk 07:03, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Jesus, Joseph & Mary! The saga continues... -- Essjay · Talk 07:29, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
I think its over... Redwolf24 07:30, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
It’s probably the same guy, but I don’t think that he is deliberately changing IP address. I’m on dial up, and every time I connect my IP number is different (that’s the point of dynamic IP’s isn’t it). -- Obradović Goran (talk 02:00, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
P.S. – Black Sabbath: Paranoid rulz!!-- Obradović Goran (talk 02:00, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I figured that all out but I can pretend that more than one person hates me. A guy can dream can't he :P
P.S. DAMN STRAIGHT Redwolf24 02:03, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your message, and for giving this some thought. Trivia time: as you noted, the cover of "Eyes" is indeed classic--in fact, it seems classic because it IS classic. It was taken from the inside fold of 1971's "Love It To Death". This is at least the second time that Cooper cover art was based on an image from a previous album, because the cover for 1977's "Alice Cooper Goes To Hell" was a cropping of a photograph from an inside photo of the band in 1973' "Billion Dollar Babies." An odd practice for someone so obviously in tune with image, don't you think? Generally, though, I prefer the scary clown eye makeup style (as on the cover of "From The Inside") to the demented drag queen makeup style (as on the cover of "Eyes). Thanks again and keep up the good work! -- ROYGBIV 06:30, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
If you have any questions or problems, no matter what they are, leave me a message on my talk page.
We're so glad you're here!
Since you mentioned you hadn't been welcomed, now you have! -- Essjay · Talk 08:00, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Haha, Bcat beat you to it (scroll up). All I need now is a barnstar :P nah I don't deserve one just yet. People need to truly deserve them so the Barnstar retains some worth. Redwolf24 08:02, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Darn him! I'd whack him with my vandal whacking stick, but since he's doing what he's supposed to, I think it'd make me a vandal! -- Essjay · Talk 08:06, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
I love that Vandal stick <3 Redwolf24 08:07, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Looks like its a few months old. Good stuff though. I'm off to make a subpage of people I can call on. Redwolf24 08:09, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
You know, I think it's important to have funny things like vandal whacking sticks to hand around...I've been known to leave all kinds of things lying about. If we don't have something to laugh about, we'll all end up crying. -- Essjay · Talk 08:16, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Check the bottom of my user page now. Mini hall of fame of sorts. Redwolf24 08:17, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm touched. Plus, as for the Barnstars, you can give one for any reason. Check that out, and WP:KC to see about a little group. Zscout370(Sound Off) 08:20, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, it looks like you've been editing since about the same time I started (seriously) editing. And you aren't far behind me in the edit count department! Are you excited about coming up on 1000? Oh, and by the way, I'm happy to flail you any day! (that didn't come out right) -- Essjay · Talk 08:22, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Haha. But by the way I've made about 150 edits on July 10 I believe. Anywho I just hit 900 recently, Neh? I better go collect 1000. Anywho I just wanna say you've been really helpful and I'll gladly nominate you an admin once you hit 2000 or so. :) Redwolf24 08:24, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
At this rate, you'd better start typing...I had like 200 at the begining of June! I was really excited about hitting 1000. I've had somewhere around 100 in the last 24 hours, but most of that is from RC patrol.
Oh, by the way, considering the vandalism that's been going on, you might want to check out our policy proposal at Wikipedia:Doppelganger account. It's not really the same thing, but something cose.
Good work today! -- Essjay · Talk 08:34, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
At this rate I better start typing? I'm going amazingly fast in my opinion :P anywho, I support that policy though it is a bit confusing. Anyways I broke 900. 1000 is next. :D. Redwolf24 08:39, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Oops, I was confusing. I meant, at the rate I'm going if you're going to nominate me at 2000, you'd better start typing the nomination, because I'll be there before you know it! I wasn't suggesting you weren't going fast enough, in fact, it think you deserve a barnstar for being constantly on the move! -- Essjay · Talk 08:46, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Score my first barnstar of any sort. You deserve this same star. Redwolf24 08:49, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you so very much for the reciprocal barnstar. Today, I got two barnstars (my first two ever) for RC patrol work; yesterday, I nearly got blocked for it! What a weekend! -- Essjay · Talk 09:25, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Haha weekends we're in a giving mood, weekdays we're in a BAN ESSJAY mood. Redwolf24 09:27, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
It is 2:26 AM. I hope to hit 1000 before I go to bed. Cheer me on :) Redwolf24 09:27, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO!
Literally at the exact same moment I was typing that above (about the ban) the admin who almost banned me was typing a note on my talk page saying she was glad I'd gotten some awards...Creepy.
I'm leaving you a note in reply at my cult page. -- Essjay · Talk 09:32, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Weird stuff there And I'll check your crazy Cult Page soon. Redwolf24 09:33, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
977...You're so close...Come on, come on..."I think I can, I think I can" -- Essjay · Talk 10:32, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Haha I thought you went to bed :p Redwolf24 10:33, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Nope...I have a cup of coffee, a beautiful sunrise, a fuzzy cat sitting on my desk whacking my hands as I type...It's a beautiful Sunday morning!
I was acually at my WikiFriends page listing people...It took a while! I've got some more policy work to do, then I'm going to do some RC patrol and try to "widen the gap."
Just 12 more to go! -- Essjay · Talk 10:45, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your welcome message. I've been a regular reader of wikipedia for quite some time now and funny as it seems- i just noticed i can also have an account - so there we go.I think its a lovely concept..drops of info from so many people spread all over the world- n here is such an awesome source of info on so many many things. I just made my first edit also - and to tell u frankly...small as the contribution was - im feeling so good about adding something worthwhile to this world wide wikipedia web :))..thats from me for now. I will go through the articles on editing etc and will ask you if i have any doubts.
have a great day
cheers
neha
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time."
T S Eliot
T S Eliot, amazing person. Also PLEASE sign signatures with ~~~~ So I can comment back at your page :) Redwolf24 09:45, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome message, I must admit, I was feeling a little lost, after having made a contribution. Still getting used to the things here and still exploring.
Could you help me understand how I could become members of groups (Collaborations of the Week), and those kind of things (unless of course I figure that out myself)?
You don't have to formally become a member of Collaborations of the Week, just go research and add :). Some things you should sign up for (like WP:WC) Any other newbie (that is NOT said in a deraugatory way) questions you need, ask me! Redwolf24 10:49, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
YOU DID IT! You made 1000! -- Essjay · Talk 11:00, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Haha I welcomed a lucky newbie. Damn in the last 24 hours I must have about 250 edits O.O Redwolf24 11:02, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
And now it's time to go to bed? -- Essjay · Talk 11:05, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
I'll get around to it... *twitch* *gets coffee* Redwolf24 11:10, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
You can have some of mine...I made a big pot...
Also, I saw your comments to Exir Kamalabadi about control-c; you do know you can type {{subst:User:Redwolf24/Welcome}} and get the same result, right? -- Essjay · Talk 11:13, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Yeh but I like it how it is <_< >_> Redwolf24 11:15, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I left you a note about your tilde problem. Instead of showing up as tildes, they are making the auto change into your signature. I think it's because you copy/paste and there aren't additional "nowiki" tags -- Essjay · Talk 11:24, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Taken care of :) thanks *awards 3 more barnstars* Just kidding though. Redwolf24 11:27, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I swear, anymore barnstars for me and ArbCom is going to investigate the both of us! Jimbo himself is going to be leaving us messages!
Also, I thought of this a second ago: I use the Firefox browser, and there is an extension for it that lets you have custom signatures you can insert on pages (like here). I have it, and have it set to my welcome template, so I don't have to type it (I'm lazy!). If you're interested, I'll get you the link.
And speaking of milestones, I just broke 1400! -- Essjay · Talk 11:30, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Congrats but thats hard to get excited for, 1,500 you'll get a prize. Remember, your goal is 2000 or so. Redwolf24 11:32, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, an hour ago you were typing 900...I can make it! -- Essjay · Talk 11:36, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
I'm gonna go to bed now. Good luck on 1,500 :) Redwolf24 12:06, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I've got aways to go...I'll let you know when I hit it! -- Essjay · Talk 12:18, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Deal. Also, for a few quick edits, go to VfD. I have two submissions there. NIGHT Redwolf24 12:34, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
You have the distinction of being my 1500th edit. Congratulations to both of us! Now, back to the vandal fighting! -- Essjay · Talk 16:04, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Score. I would give you a star but I've given you enough. So I'll give you a very random award. Redwolf24 19:03, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
So, did you have a nice nap? A random award...I'll have to be on the lookout for that! -- Essjay · Talk 19:06, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah a good nap. Now check your user page. Redwolf24 19:10, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh, God! Do I have to worship Satan now? I mean, I'm already busy worshiping the F, S, & HS, plus Almighty Jimbo...
By the way, I saw that you like Stephen Lynch...He's about the funniest singing comic I've ever heard. -- Essjay · Talk
I'm a new member of the welcoming committe, and I have heard you are a veteran at welcomming new users. What do you think about my welcomming message? Feel free to give me some suggestions.Exir Kamalabadi(Talk)(contribs) 11:01, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
I know this question wasn't for me, but in looking at your welcome message, I see that when you said "Sign your post with 4 tildes (~~~~)" it showed up with your username. Use the nowiki tags as I have done to have them show up correctly, and you might want to include "tasks to be done" or some that I've seen in others, but otherwise, it looks pretty good! Congrats, and good luck with the welcomming! -mysekurity 17:08, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I whacked Red for that earlier...It should be fixed now (but won't show up on old pages). -- Essjay · Talk 17:23, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for adding the photo of Andrew Bird (and one he looks dang handsome in, too!) I'm still a bit of a noob and haven't quite progressed to photos yet. One mountain at a time....
Thanks for letting me know! NickBurns 15:49, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem. An image to every article. 18:38, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Please take another look at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/American West, and re-consider your vote. I think you'll find that Redirect would be a more appropriate vote, given that the merge work has already been done, and consensus on the article's talk page has been reached. The author of the page was just unhappy with the consensus, it seems. -Harmil 18:44, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
...selected to review a proposal at WikiProject U.S. regions/Maps to replace the current grab bag of U.S. maps with a standardized style. The maps also remove the always, sometimes, and rare classification currently in use, in favor of a core area always in a region highlighted in red, while states that may or may not be included in a region are shown in pink. Please comment on the talk page. If approved or revised by participants, I'd like to make the transition within the next two weeks. Thanks. -JCarriker 19:29, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
How'd you get drafted for that? That seems pretty far away from sorting bands and whacking vandals... -- Essjay · Talk 19:39, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I forgot to mention I'm a geography/history/biography genius. Though I haven't spent much time on that. Redwolf24 19:41, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, missed that one...And the serial killer fetish. Oh well, I guess we all have wierd things...After all, I get paid to think about God all the time! What a scam! -- Essjay · Talk 19:54, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Read up on the killers. Good stuff >xD Redwolf24 19:56, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Trust me, with all the smiting that's gone on in God's name, I've got plenty of material. By the way, how do you find newbies to welcome? -- Essjay · Talk 20:08, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
(taken care of) Redwolf24 20:48, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I've resoponded to you on the talk. Have you considered adding yourself to the list of participants, we have a sufferage policy based on VFU's, so I'd recommend you add yourself to the list, we always love to have new contibutors, so much so I've insituted a "voluntary draft". You can go to the project main page usign WP:USR -JCarriker 20:24, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Trolling RC...I do that all the time, except I look for vandals, not newbies. I use CDVF though, so I don't see redlinks. Speaking of vandals, you scared the bejezus out of me; I thought I was going to go find vandalism on my page! -- Essjay · Talk 20:50, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
What is CDVF??? Redwolf24 20:51, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I'm glad you asked, Grasshopper...CDVF is the amazing CryptoDerk Vandal Fighter. It gives you real time, streaming Recent Changes, lets you import your watchlist, color code edits by anon IPs, user page edits by other users, etc. It's the greatest thing ever!
For now, I must go; I have Mass in half an hour. I shall pray for us all! See you about 9 or 10!
OH GOD! Something's wrong with Kate's tool...My edit count is stuck where it was two hours ago! -- Essjay · Talk 20:59, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your welcome. I have made a couple of editing changes to the stub Bio-Bio river but forgot to log on so they appear as my internet domain 200.85.205.210
Is it possible to correct to CONCE ..my user name or forever I have lost this chance for immortality? :-)
(BioBio is part of rivers of chile or stub of Concepcion, Chile).
Other question ... I note that to send you a message there is a box ..Leave me a message. I have not seen this with other users and wasnt sure how to send them messages. i.e. whether to edit their MYTALK boxes etc. No doubt this information is somewhere within wikipedias guides etc. but there is so much and I am slowly learning on a need to know basis.
Paul Edmonds (aka CONCE)
My Reply
1) Don't worry about 1 or 2 lost edits. I have about 1000 and if I did retrieve my IP edits maybe I'd have 1020. No big deal really. Remember next time you login to click "Remember Me" that way you won't lose any edits.
2) To leave messages on other users pages, just click Edit this page and go to the bottom and make a new sections.
3) PLEASE sign your comments with ~~~~, rather than just writing out CONCE. This way users can reply to you easier.
Hello, and thanks for the welcome to Wikipedia! :)
I am a fan of Nirvana, so it's nice to see you list them in the top four of your favourite bands. And what I have heard from Black Sabbath, AC/DC and The Who thus far, I've liked.
Your user page mentions you play the guitar - I'm a dedicated player myself, currently only have an old classical guitar, but hopefully getting an electric one soon!
Also, that's an impressive collection of CDs. Too long to analyze right now, but some of the names I saw
were the ones I listen to or have heard about and would be likely to listen to. In fact, I do envy that collection. :)
Again, thanks, your welcome message was appreciated.
The welcome, no problem. I hope you become a valuable editor. I just recently hit my 1000th edit. Anywho anything on my page (such as the Leave me a message box) that you want, feel free to take (or if you don't know how I'll do it for you). If you're interested in welcoming newbies, see WP:WC. And thank you much for the band complements. :) As for guitar I've been playing since March '04. You? Redwolf24 01:11, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
I'll take a look at the neat clickables on your page later, once I'll have more time. About the 1000th edit - that's a lot. I hope you get to be an admin soon as you're hoping. The guitar. I've been playing on and off. I went to music school when I was young, first took trumpet classes, but later switched to guitar once my teacher found out I was missing a front tooth. ;) I stopped after a few months, though, wasn't really into it. I picked up my guitar a few times in the last few years, but I really got into it full-time in about March this year, been playing and practicing actively ever since. And thanks for the good words on my talk page, made my day. :) PeepP 01:45, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
1) about the 1000 edits: I'm applying for admin as soon as I hit 2000 edits.
2) How does the tooth mess up your playing? I know nothing about trumpets :-/
3) No problem for the good words, you might get a certain award. Redwolf24 01:47, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't know myself why the tooth was a problem, but my teacher said so. The guitar was better anyway since I didn't have to go to a distant forest where no one could hear me, every time I wanted to practice. :) PeepP 11:55, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
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Yay Fair use!!!!!!!!! Redwolf24 03:18, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Sigh, someones gonna delete my
FAIR USE! VIVA LE RESISTANCE
lemming picture. Redwolf24 04:03, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Screw it I'll stop uploading images. Redwolf24 04:03, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
I have used Wikipedia and am starting to make a few contributions. I think I can add value in:
- Business
- Rock Climbing
- Flying
- Michigan and related
I am still learning Wiki and plan to tread lightly until I am comfortable with proper Wikiquette.
Is this comment set up to go directly to your e-mail?
Best Regards,
Ron Reed
K, we've been lacking on rock climbing. No it doesn't go to my email thhough while at my user page you can click E-mail this user. But that won't be neccisary. Also, please sign with ~~~~ rather than Ron Reed. It'll leave your name so users can reply easier. Redwolf24 03:17, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf24, your enthusiasm for this project is contagious, and I thank you for nudging me to create a user page. That's one of the little details I would have let sit undone for years. It's begun now (thanks to you) and hope to meet you again as we build this amazing resource together. Drop by anytime! -- ROYGBIV 04:55, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
My questions are repeated below. There weren't any answers on my Discussion page. If you feel the answers are on your pages somewhere then plase provide links to them -- there's no way to search your numerous answers quickly just as there's no way I can see to search Wikipedia for words or phrases that aren't actual entry titles.
Hi Redwolf24,
Thanks for the welcome. I actually joined Wikipedia a while back but hadn't logged in when I posted material. I wasn't sure why one even needed to log in, but now see that it allows users to follow the history somewhat more precisely.
My current question is how one can search ALL of Wikipedia for a specific name, term, phrase to find out what's available.
For example, if I wanted to search for Warren Burger, fomer Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, I'd probably find an individual listing for him. However, there might be no main entry for a person even though that person might be mentioned numerous times in articles about other things. And even if there is an entry for what you're looking for, there's no way to find all those other mentions unless links have already been established. Is there a way to do what I'm asking that I don't see?
I'm also wondering how to get the same effect as the HTML anchor code <a name="example"> which allows a user to jump directly to a specific spot on a page? Your command <div id="example">an id attribute</div> inserts a hard return <br> when one inserts it in the middle of text, forcing one to use it at the beginning or end of a paragraph.
--Snsnews 3 July 2005 06:28 (UTC)
Please add your self to the list of participants at WikiPorject U.S. regions you won't be expected to do anything more for the project than you did earlier today on the maps talk page. -JCarriker 06:00, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
Hey Red, I finally made it back. Have you checked edit counts with Kate's tool lately? It still has me at 1515, which is where I was yesterday afternoon; that's way off from where I should be. Have we broken it with all our edit checking, or is it just me? -- Essjay · Talk 01:26, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
I've been at about 1020 for a while. Lemme check. Redwolf24 01:27, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
It says 1029. I'll check now if it says 1030. Redwolf24 01:29, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Nope its the same. Looks like its broken. Redwolf24 01:33, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I emailed "Kate" about it; we'll see what she says. Hopefully, it's just a temporary thing...Without my edit-count fix, I may have to enter rehab! -- Essjay · Talk 01:57, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, but then I'd have to actually count them myself...I'm too lazy for that! -- Essjay · Talk 02:04, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Nooo just do 500's until you get to the last page, then click 100 til you get to the last page. It gives you a good estimate. Like I found Im at around 1200 now Redwolf24 02:05, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I count 1598...This is 1599, and I'll do 1600 before I stop to go to the grocery. -- Essjay · Talk 02:06, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, why such high WikiStress? Maybe you need to pray the WikiSerenity prayer. -- Essjay · Talk 06:52, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
All about fair use and how vague it is. Redwolf24 07:15, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Must you welcome everyone I do right after I do? :P Redwolf24 09:17, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I haven't welcomed anyone you have in over 24 hours! I just caught her "personal sandbox" coming through RC! (Although I did list one of the users you welcomed at RfC for a questionable username, and I just retracted my welcome from the talk page of a GNAA troll who's after Zscout and Evil Monkey) -- Essjay · Talk 09:19, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
BTW, could you look at the pages Gormenghast and Gormenghast (novel)? I've been working on it. However, the trouble is, it's about a series of books known as the Gormenghast Series. But the second book is also called Gormenghast. Uberisaac
K, I'll take a quick look. Redwolf24 08:25, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't see the problem. Just write the plot for the second book at the novel page and for the series at the main Gormenghast page. Redwolf24 08:42, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! Simple to you, but helpful advice to a newbie! Uberisaac
You're very welcome. You seem to be on the right track, I hope you become a valuable Wikipedian. Redwolf24 09:33, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Another question (you've been helpful): Am I allowed to upload any images I find on Google to articles? I have been doing so, but I'm not sure about copyright. Uberisaac
Haha the whole image copyright thing drives me INSANE! Anywho look at this very talk page under Fair Use and use those tags on your images. If you're not sure about any of those just type {{fairuse}}. Redwolf24 09:44, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
WHOA! Hold on now. (I tried Red, I swear I did, but I just can't help myself!) If you aren't sure of the copyright status of an image, the best thing to do is to not upload it. Wikipedia can get into serious trouble if we violate copyrights. Fair use is an option, but only for certain types of copyrights, and if you're unsure, go to Wikipedia:Fair use and ask first. For the full image policy, see Wikipedia:Image use policy. -- Essjay · Talk 09:50, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Pfffft. I'm not sure how Wikipedia could be sued for it considering its open content. All they'd do is get rid of the image. One thing I don't get is... it takes time and money to copyright stuff and the fact is, if National Geographic prints a picture of a Lemming, it doesnt mean they copyrighted it... Viva La Fair Use. Redwolf24 09:57, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
VIVA LA FAIR USE
But it doesn't take time or money to copyright; it takes time and money to register a copyright. Under US law, every original creation is automatically copyrighted to the creator, and there is no requirement that the creator do anything to register or otherwise protect the copyright. If you choose to register your copyrights, then you get additional protection (including stautory damages) but you still are able to protect your copyright and sue for actual damages without registration.
I know because I'm a co-owner in a publishing company (I put up the cash, my partner does the work) and we just met with our attorney about this not a month ago. -- Essjay · Talk 10:02, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Awright. But see, your company isn't free content. See what if I were National Geographic and I put loads of pictures on Wikipedia and then sued them for it? It wouldnt really work out. Just tell them to take the picture off or at worst, sue the user. Redwolf24 10:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
It would be different if National Geographic actually put the pictures on Wikipedia. They would have to click the disclaimer box, and that would release their copyright. However, if you take someoneelse's pictures and upload them, they haven't released thier copyright. Sure, it's not likely they will sue (or even find out, for that matter) but there is still the chance, so it's always best to be very sure of the status of any copyrighted images.
Whatever photographer took the image for NG automatically received a copyright; he either released the copyright to NG or licensed the image. When you took it and uploaded it, you infringed on the copyright (unless they released thier images, which is highly unlikely.) In the unlikely event that they decide to sue (and who knows, maybe thier owned by Britannica, and are just looking for a reason to sue) they could do us some damage. That would anger Almighty Jimbo, and we'd all end up in WikiHell. All I'm saying is, be careful, and caveat uploader. -- Essjay · Talk 10:17, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Man, I love that lemming more than life itself. I hope it doesn't get deleted. Redwolf24 11:07, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
By the way, Now I understand some more on copyrighting at Wikipeda. :) Redwolf24 11:07, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
OH GOD! I spend my offline life educating people, and now I'm educating them here! Why? Why do I do it? (Ok, enough of the melodrama.) Looks like they blocked my troll, but one admin is offering to unblock him in exchange for a promise not to misbehave anymore. Sheesh... -- Essjay · Talk 11:11, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Okay, so forget the copyright thing...Looks like I've finally scored a troll of my very own: Special:Contributions/JacksonBrown. If any of the admins ever get over to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism maybe he'll get blocked. -- Essjay · Talk 10:33, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
I want my own troll :( wait I have one. And it seems he died. I fear he'll be back though :-/ Redwolf24 11:43, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Talrias seemed confused by my Black Sabbath award, haha. Redwolf24 11:43, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I noticed that. Don't worry, your troll (at least, under that username) is permablocked. He won't be back. Mine, on the other hand, is only blocked for 24 hours, so I'm sure I'll see him again soon. I've got to get to 2000 edits so I can get the block power! -- Essjay · Talk 11:46, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Oh, by the way, I "got" my troll by welcoming him; he turned out to be a GNAA member. The way you welcome people, you ought to have ten or twelve by now! -- Essjay · Talk 11:58, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
I swear, that face looks like an angry Eric Cartman... -- Essjay · Talk 11:59, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
I'm a serial welcomer. Anywho, >xD is a laughing Cartman. Its a great face. Also check, wait lemme fetch the link Redwolf24 12:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah, it looked like the face he made at the end of the Southpark movie when he was fighting Saddam. Now, what am I supposed to be looking for on your userpage? The lemming lifted via legal loophole? -- Essjay · Talk 12:24, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
No, Look at the link I put up. Redwolf24 12:28, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
The link to my "cult" page? (BTW, I went and added to your Barnstar proposal). -- Essjay · Talk 12:37, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
OH, I GET IT NOW. I thought "let me fetch the link" --> Redwolf24 meant "look at Redwolf24". You actually meant, look at the barnstar proposal. Now I feel dumb... -- Essjay · Talk 12:39, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Haha. By the way, MathKnight CREATED the image from scratch. I told him about the whole award. Redwolf24 12:40, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I figured that out after I hit save. I knew he wasn't one of the ones chasing the horde. (And I have to tell you, every time I think about it, I get visions of you & NickBush being chased by a horde of viking pillagers, with me, Zscout, & Evil Monkey chasing them...) ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 12:49, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Damn them Norsemen hating on me and Nicko. Redwolf24 12:51, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Alright, while the Norsemen are asleep, I'm going to go get some offline work done. I'm somewhere over 1800 now, in case you care, so we'll be doing an RFA soon...
I'll see you later, and by the way, if your lemming dies, I promise I'll get you a new one. -- Essjay · Talk 13:08, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Hooray! I'm so glad your lemming was spared! Although, at some point, it has to commit suicide, doesn't it? -- Essjay · Talk 14:35, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I accused you of cropping ... looking at Image:Lemming.jpg vs. the URL cited in the copyvio tag, it seemed that the source information had been removed. Probably it was simply absent in whichever version of the image you uploaded. Anyway, didn't mean to cast any aspersions on you. Happy editing! -- Visviva 13:00, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem :) ah well I hope that lemming doesnt die but if its copyright its copyright. Redwolf24 13:01, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Actually the copyvio tag was added by User:Head... I just happened by because I had watchlisted the image at some point (I can't for the life of me imagine why). Anyway, no harm intended. Carry on! -- Visviva 13:19, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I went by your lemming and did a photo analysis on the talk page; I determined them to be similar but different images and removed the copyvio tag. As far as I can tell, they weren't listed on the copyvio page, so no harm, no foul. -- Essjay · Talk 17:52, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
No, no, I haven't any. I have the red wikistress thingee there because it looks cool, mostly. I had an explanation under it, but now I've made it more clear so as to not send out any more false alarms.
I do hope you don't leave wikipedia. Every time we lose a competent wikipedian, the idiot ratio gets a bit higher :-( Redwolf24 06:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Nuthin' to worry about here, I plan on using wikipedia for a while. Thanks for your concern! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 07:18, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Aha. Sorry about that one there. :) Good thing you're doing fine. Redwolf24 07:22, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
*laughs* Some people, I swear... NickBush24 09:35, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Lord have mercy! I think that's the first time my page has been vandalized: I feel special! Sorry I wasn't here while it was going on; I have to sleep sometime... -- Essjay · Talk 10:30, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
I have heard that you are aplying for sysopship. Would you mind if I nominate you?Exir Kamalabadi(Talk)(contribs) 10:37, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
I'm VERY touched. However I want to wait until I make it to 2000 edits. When I am ready for nomination though, I'll drop you a note and you can be sure to vote a yes for me :) Redwolf24 10:47, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
That's darn right! If I have to wait to 2000, you do too! (Oh, and I want to be the one to nominate you!) -- Essjay · Talk 10:52, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Conomination. By the way the two of us oughta work more on ARTICLES as I see a lot of people being judged by their article edits. Redwolf24 10:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
ESSJAY I JUST COUNTED YOUR EDITS, YOURE AT ABOUT 1970!!!! Redwolf24 10:57, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
I will vote for you whenever someone nominates you, Redwolf. (And Essjay too). :)Exir Kamalabadi(Talk)(contribs) 11:01, July 13, 2005 (UTC) PS. Essjay: leave me a message when you hit 2000 edits. I'll nominate you!
YAYYYYYYY! Exir, I'll leave you a note and you can be the second to vote for me, but I already promised Red that he could be the nominator. (Hence why I want to nominate him...) I'd better go start answering those questions!
As for articlespace edits, I have quite a few (the still broken Kate's toll says 299, and that was a couple days ago) and of those, many are full blown rewrites, because I do most of my editing in my sandboxes and with the preview button. I'd guess that if you added in my sandbox edits and preview use, I probably have somewhere around 750 articlespace edits. (Yeah, I use preview that much.) -- Essjay · Talk 11:12, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Red, I'm going to go out for a bit, but I'll be back shortly, and I'll finish up the road to 2000. Check out my gallery section; I made a new entry. -- Essjay · Talk 11:22, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Haha, nice. I had something to say but I forgot it >.< Ah well. I'm off to work on albums! Redwolf24 11:26, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Do you remember what the last edit was when you counted 1970? I've just finished some reworking over at my user page (I moved the gallery to a subpage) and I'm going to go do some welcoming and RCP.I should hit 2000 in the next ten mins. -- Essjay · Talk 12:40, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
ELEVEN EDITS TO GO as of you leaving that message!!! Redwolf24 12:43, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
You are officially 2000. -- Essjay · Talk 12:51, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, you can vote. Actually, I think the nomination is counted as an automatic "support" but the nominator usually votes support anyway. God I hope this goes well. And by the way, THANK YOU! -- Essjay · Talk 13:16, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
No problem at all, you're my wiki-best friend. Anyways, I left links at the pages of Nickbush,evil monkey, exil, zscout, and talrias. Good luck, all we can do is pray :) Redwolf24 13:22, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
I saw some of the links (I have several of those people on my watchlist); thank you for that too. And I'm honored to hear you say I'm you WBF. I agree that all we can do is pray, so:
Almighty and Ever-Editing Jimbo, we do well always and everywhere to give you thanks and praise...From age to age, you call your editors together, so that from East to West, a perfect Wikipedia may be created to your glory...Lord Jimbo, you said to your editors: I leave you peace, my peace I give you. Look not on my WikiSins, but on the good faith of my edits, and grant my RfA the peace and unity of your Wikipedia where you live for ever and ever...Deliver us, Jimbo, from every edit conflict, and grant us peace in our day. In your mercy, keep us free from POV, and protect us from needless anxiety...All this we ask in the name of the one Wiki, which is with you and with us, NPOV, forever and ever. Amen"
God I have too much information in my head, and too much time on my hands. (Every line in that is a paraphrase of the Mass.) -- Essjay · Talk 13:52, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Oh, they're saying such nice things about me over there! Do you think it would be tacky to add a "Vote for Me" link to my sig for the next couple of days? -- Essjay · Talk 14:12, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, but I was busy. I didn't vote at the very beggining. But now I voted for you essjay. Exir Kamalabadi(Talk)(contribs) 02:31, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for asking - it was (is) a combination of Wiki- and non-Wikistress. I was (am) stressed at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/William M. Connolley - it really bothers me that someone who I see as working really hard for the integrity of Wikipedia is being voted down because of the actions which were very much for the benefit of the project...in some cases by the disruptive users who are trying to insert POV material into Wikipedia, and in other cases because of an ArbComm decisions which I think was a totally inappropriate decision (since William was given revert parole in the absence of findings of fact against him by the ArbComm). Couple that with dealing with troublesome users and I was pretty much on edge when a bomb when off in my home country...terrorism is nothing but news until it hits a spot you know - my father walked past the place the bomb went off in what appears to be the interval between when it was placed there and when it went off. On the grand scheme of things it was small, but it was finally real. So after that I found myself losing it at a person who was an annoying editor, and I decided that I was too stressed to edit Wikipedia. So I took a day or two off...of course "time off" is probably more effective if yoiu stop watching your watchlist, but promising myself not to edit really put things into perspective. Things are far less stressful if you can't hit the [edit this page] tab :) Anyway, thanks very much for asking. Guettarda 13:39, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem, I just troll that image and 'what links here'. Anyways as for William I'll vote for him right now. Anywho as I said, don't quit Wikipedia or you're letting the idiots win... I see you're British. Looks like your father lucked out. Anyways as for me, I look for the 'edit this page' tab when I'm at say... cnn.com >xD Anyways Hope you'll be/you are feeling better!!! Redwolf24 13:48, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
No, not a Brit - the flag was just a mark of solidarity. I'm from Trindiad and Tobago...we had out won little fun this week [3] Actually the most therapuetic things I couild do was RC patrol. Dealing with garden variety vandalism is fun with admin superpowers. Sure, it got my user page vandalised, but that's just amusing. Guettarda 13:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha, I love my troll who messes with my page. Always entertaining how sad it is. Ha, I did a report on Trinadad and Tobago in school. Which one are you from? As for the RC Patrol, I look forward to doing it when I become an admin. But that won't be forawhile :)
P.S, at RfA could you take a look at Essjay who I just nominated? Thanks.
I'm from Trinidad, but I am in Oklahoma right now. Times like this you feel like you should be home. I saw the conversation higher up on your page and followed the link to vote for him. All the best. Guettarda 14:06, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah, good. I hope you vote for me when I RfA but thats not for a few weeks albeit. `Redwolf24
Thank you for the welcome message. I do have a question. What is the difference between the page "User Talk: Neutron" where your message appeared, and the page "User: Neutron" for which there is no actual page? In other words when I log in, and click on my user name at the top of the screen, I get a page that says there is no page named "User: Neutron," but if I click on my talk, I get the page with your message. What is the diffrence?
Thanks for your help.
Since you're away at the moment, I got this one. -- Essjay · Talk 18:46, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Haha, Essjay is my guardian angel it seems. Or stalker. Either one. Anyways I was sleeping. Redwolf24 23:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Hummm. I do have many of the traits of a stalker...I'm going with WikiFriend, though, since I don't troll you, and I've now found hundreds of my own new users to welcome! Actually, my welcome template was messed up for about 75 welcomes today, and another user actually went through 50 of them and fixed it! I couldn't believe it!
Really, you're on my watchlist, so I see whenever your page gets edited; how else am I supposed to chase the horde of Norsemen after you? Oh, and by the way, don't think that putting that comment in small type over at the RfA made it any harder for me to see it! I know you were picking on the neutrals! Bad Red, bad! ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 00:19, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Haha, I felt the reason to be stupid as if we judge by time... why not make user Redwolf an admin? He may only have four contributions but they were in 2003... Redwolf24 00:23, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I know...When I put my "please don't bite the opposers" note, I was thinking of TenOfAllTrades' RfA, where Everyking & Boothy443 were bashed into the ground for voting oppose;I was just having a little fun Red-bashing (not redbaiting, mind you). ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 00:39, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
That's cause you're a commie :) Redwolf24 00:41, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
For the future, try putting {{album}} on the talk page of the albums, so I won't have to to do them all. -- Mike Garcia | talk 02:09, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Ok thanks Mike :) Redwolf24 02:12, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I am 16 edits from 1,500 :) Redwolf24 03:22, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: GO GO GO GO GO GO GO! -- Essjay · Talk 03:47, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Haha, 5 to go as of writing this. Redwolf24 03:52, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
You can do it! As of this moment, however, I'm doing deep breathing excercises...One of the Westboro Baptist Church freaks is quasi-harassing an injured Wikipedian; I just want to whack him with my Bible. -- Essjay · Talk 03:57, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
I read up on that godhatesfags thing a while ago. Makes me angry. Give Who a whacking stick, STAT! Redwolf24 03:58, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
What with being a theology scholar and a queer, they make me mad too. The guy who left her that message is Phelps' apostle in Harrodsburg, Ky; I have a good friend who is a professor at Centre College in Danville, Ky. who actually stood in front of that guy at a protest in town to block out his signs. Really, he's just an idiot, but of course, those are the kinds of people who give Christianity a bad name.
Three more to go! -- Essjay · Talk 04:15, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Correction, one more to go. Redwolf24 04:16, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Essjay, check your user page history :) Redwolf24 04:18, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh, who is female. I think I called her a him. Ah well, not a big deal. Anyways yes I saw that Bart Guy. I should go do a nazi campeign and get my own WikiArticle >.< Redwolf24 04:29, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Note: that was obviously a joke, I hate Nazis with all my heart. Redwolf24
Hi, I just can't figure out how to "sign my talk page." I made some minor contributions, but I don't have any idea where to go to put my signature! Since I was logged in, is it automatic? Thanks!
This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page you will be blocked from editing. -- Essjay · Talk 04:46, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, yeah, I'm being funny too...I saw your little vandalism. Congratulations on hitting 1500!
I would have been here sooner, but I got a call from a friend (at 12:30 at night!) who has a kidney infection. She wanted my adivce on what to do; I told her my specialty is theology not peeology and that just because I have Dr. in front of my name doesn't mean I practice medicine! (Actually, I told her to go to the ER if she felt that bad.) Anywho, good work! -- Essjay · Talk 04:46, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
How are you a Dr. if your degree is in Theology...? Redwolf24 04:47, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm a Dr. because I have two doctorate degrees (four if you count honorary degrees), although I'm only called "Dr." in academic circles. Same reason that any professor (except med school, of course) is called "Dr." -- Essjay · Talk 04:51, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Ph. D. Beautiful. Guess my academic achievement! Redwolf24 04:52, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Hummm...I don't know! You tell me. I don't talk about the degrees much because I don't want people to assume things about me; for the most part, I have them listed there because they can be of some help when someone is wondering whether I know what I'm talking about or not. So, if you hadn't noticed my academic creds, what did you think about me? -- Essjay · Talk 04:58, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Well I'll try to be NPOV about it. :P I think of you as a very kind user who chases vandals. I haven't seen you contribute to articles lately, just reverting vandalism. NPOV is hard ya know >.< Anyways I'll show my education after I become an admin, though I was just wondering if anyone would vote for me really... Yes I welcome and yes I've created a lot of music related articles and I've been very active but I don't revert vandalism that much. So I'm not sure I'll win the first RfA... Ah well though, if at first you don't suceed, try and try again. Redwolf24 05:05, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, I wasn't sure how mine would go, and I have 27-1-1! Granted, there's still a week to go, but some RfA's don't get 27 votes total in the whole week. TenOfAllTrades is pretty popular, and he got 58 support votes total; I've gotten half that in the first day! My point isn't to brag at all, just to say, you never know! I guarantee you you'll get at least one vote that says Overwhealming, Enthusiastic, Unequivocal Support, And I am unanimous in that! -- Essjay · Talk 05:14, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
I knew you'd get a lot of people. You are always helping and watching help desks though. Plus you answered the questions better than I think I will... Redwolf24 05:16, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I think you'll do fine. You do a fair bit of helping, and it's obvious you're willing to help when asked. As for the desks, you can watch them too if you want, it honestly doesn't tak much time. When it comes time to answer those questions, if you're having trouble, I'll help you out. Plus, you know I'm going to give you awesome reviews in your nom!
It doesn't take a lot to get into RC patrol, and really, when you do, you'll get caught up in it. (Think of how much fun we had chasing the trolls the other day!) You're going to be an admin, and you're going to be great at it! -- Essjay · Talk 05:22, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
=-D I'm off to Welcome some more people! Yay {{Subst:User:Redwolf24/Welcome}}
Believe it baby! I beat you to 'em! [Does a little dance] Not many of them out there right
now, though, is there? -- Essjay · Talk 05:37, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Rawr. Well I still beat you 97% of the time so I'm fine :P. No there hasn't been many newbs.... Redwolf24 05:40, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
You've Got Mail. Redwolf24 05:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
So do you! -- Essjay · Talk 05:51, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
haha, ~~~~ doesn't work in hotmail. What a shame! Redwolf24 05:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Did I sign it ~~~~? God, I do have an addiction. And I left you a link in my sandbox. -- Essjay · Talk 06:00, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
You've gotta go see the latest vote! It's #28. -- Essjay · Talk 06:09, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Haha good stuff. I really better catch up. Redwolf24 06:11, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm proud to be a trollslayer! The trolls shall not prevail! -- Essjay · Talk 06:45, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Where'd you disappear to? -- Essjay · Talk 07:33, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
I was talking with some girls. They seemed to be confused. :) Redwolf24 07:34, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Randy little bugger! ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 07:37, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
>.< Its alright though. Cept he was banned for 24 hours it says. He'll be back. Oh yes, he will be back. Anyways one of those girls was being harassed online by an Ephebophile. There's nothing I loathe more than men over 18 who go with girls under 16 cause they can't get any with their own age. It frustrates me to no end. I would go on but there's no point. Anywho, now I'll leave my John Hancock. Redwolf24 08:05, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Uncanny; I'm discussing the 24 hour block with the blocker as we speak! Don't worry, the Trollslayer is on the case!
As for your friend, I sympatize with her; I'm too old for chicken, and I stay away from it. Besides that, what do a thirty-something-year-old and a sixteen-year-old have in common? ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 08:16, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
They're both horny? Redwolf24 08:20, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Dirty bugger! Cheeky monkey! : - ) Check your email. -- Essjay · Talk 08:22, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
K, I added a section to my user page in a dubious attempt to be profound. Ha, Redwolf24 08:28, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I applaud your profoundity! -- Essjay · Talk 09:12, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
And I jokingly scowl at your sarcasm :) Back to RC Redwolf24 09:13, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
You've been at RC? I've been having a theology discussion! Now, time for some real-time RC patrol. BTW, the list just keeps getting longer! -- Essjay · Talk 09:21, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Red, go check User talk:Salilus; it looks like there's something wrong with your template! -- Essjay · Talk 09:24, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I know, and frankly I don't get it. You won't be able to fix it either I dont think >.< Redwolf24 09:26, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Are you copy/pasting or using the {{ }}? -- Essjay · Talk 09:35, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Edit conflict, predictable one. I was using {{Subst:User:Redwolf24/Welcome}} but now I'm copying nad pasting. Redwolf24 09:36, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
If you don't want to have to copy/paste, I can fix it so you can subst: -- Essjay · Talk 09:38, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the offer, but please don't. Copy and paste is simpler and two buttons, subst is like 20 keystrokes. Redwolf24 09:40, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Didn't you tell me you use Firefox? Get this extension. It lets you set predefined signatures (no character limit), and then insert them by right clicking (it adds a signature menu to your right click). That's what I use for my welcomes as well as all my RC patrol notices. It makes it two clicks and you have your message, plus you don't have to keep it on the clipboard to use it, so you can use it when you stumble across some hot girl. : - ) -- Essjay · Talk 09:50, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Calm down, dude...I just didn't quite get what you meant by "Ha." I know you've been busy; your name's gone across my RC screen quite a few times in the last few mins. ; - ) As for those users, I'm going to list them at RfC. -- Essjay · Talk 10:09, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Whoa didn't mean to come off as hostile. By the way I was just at RC and there were FOUR USERS IN A ROW without talk pages!! *click* *ctrl+v* *save* *back* *back* *Rinse, Wash, and repeat 3 more times* Redwolf24 10:25, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for sticking that category label on the Bounce Your Boobies page. When I created the article, I was afraid some wickedpedean would come along and delete it, but instead I'm getting help! Wikipedia is great... :) -asx- 05:04, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha, to tell you the truth I expected that to be deleted, I thought someone was vandalizing. Then I saw that it was an actual song. So I stuck a category on it :) Redwolf24 05:07, 14 July 2005 (UTC)</nowiki>
(I'm starting a new section 'cause the old one was getting really long.)
Anyhow, I listed both of those users at RfC, and I left notes on each of thier pages directing them to the username policy. Also, the one with the nasty note on his user page got a note about no personal attacks. We'll see what the admins at RfC say. -- Essjay · Talk 10:24, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
(I think you missed the above.)
I didn't mean to sound like I thought you were hostile; that's why I added the smiley. I just didn't want you to think I was being snippy. -- Essjay · Talk 10:27, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah at first I didn't comment cause of that smiley but then I decide to, minutes later albeit. Redwolf24 10:29, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
WHY DID YOU DELETE MY USER ACCOUNT?
THE BULLSHIT DETECTIVE
Sounds like somebody needs to lay off the coffee...
And it was deleted because it's an offensive username. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Username_policy to make sure it doesn't happen again. NickBush24 11:13, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Further, you should know that Redwolf24 cannot delete accounts; if your account was blocked, it was by a Wikipedia administrator because it violated Wikipedia policy. Please see your talk page for an explaination. -- Essjay · Talk 11:16, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Neither account has been blocked as of now; however, consensus to block is developing at RfC. -- Essjay · Talk 11:20, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
I was the one who started it out. I was gonna welcome him but then I saw his name and changed it to a name warning. Redwolf24 11:44, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Right, then I went behind you and left a policy link and listed it at RfC. I don't know why he thinks his account was deleted, when it obviously hasn't been. Perhaps he needs to direct his crusade towards himself. -- Essjay · Talk 11:46, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
THATS A PERSONAL ATTACK. MY NAME DOESNT OFFEND ANYONE AND YOU KNOW IT. IF U WANNA SPLIT HAIRS LIKE THAT, Y'ALL SHOULD REPORT YOURSELVES FOR PERSONALLY ATTACKING ME. I DONT FOLLOW MINDLESS RULES. UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE MY NAME IS INFRINGING ON SOMEONES RIGHTS, IT STAYS
Your name offends... The username policy. Your Caps Lock is slightly annoying. You add "quackery" to medical articles. You will be banned within the next 3 hours. Redwolf24 16:30, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
The irony of having a bullshit detective deal out bullshit quite tickles my funnybone... Ta bu shi da yu 05:11, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Methinks you need to fix your standard welcome message by replacing all occurrences of the tilde ~ by ~ lest the tilde-sequences get replaced when you {{subst: it. See e.g. User talk:Reynoldsrapture for the effect. Lupo 12:08, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Yes I've been addressed on this several times. Thanks for your concern and nice to see a fellow Wolf! Redwolf24 12:23, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome. I've been visiting Wikipedia for quite a while but just started officially editing this week. You mentioned orphans. Define that for me? Also, do you know how to start a new article on a subject that shares its title with an existing article? Case in point: I wanted to add an article on guitarist Steve White but in attempting to do so, I learned that there is another musician named Steve White, a drummer. So when I started my article, I had to alter the title to Steve White (guitarist) for lack knowing a better system. Also, if someone searches for "Steve White" they will only find a reference to the drummer.
I tried to find info through reading the help pages, but so far no luck...
Oh yeah, orphans. An orphan page is a page that isn't in any categories. Like your Steve White would be in Category:Guitarists. Redwolf24 14:22, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Wow, that was quick! Thanks a bunch. buck 14:25, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
No prob, I love to help! If you need anything else, you know where to find me :) Redwolf24 14:27, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I am still finding my way around, so forgive if I make mistakes. I mean well and I'll end up fixing them. I will appreciate any criticism and feedback. I also love the talk, so leave me a message every now and then! And don't worry, I'm the kind that reads the boring material, even if it takes me a while.
Thanks for the welcome... I just got done with the tutorial and hope to start with some updating of some pages related to my university! Fallstorm 17:26, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Wow, you read the tutorials. Studies show that only 1 in every 200 wikipedians read those. Also, 47.2% of statistics are made up on the spot. Anyways, Kudos for reading them. I'm sure you'll be a very valuable user!! Redwolf24 17:28, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
For great work in welcoming new users to Wikipedia, I hereby award you the Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar. Sango123 16:11, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Redwolf. Awesome work on making new users feel welcome! Blue talk page links with red user page links and the thank-you messages on this page are evidence enough. :)
Thank you VERY much!! :D Redwolf24 17:36, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
You mean the picture of the London City Hall? It's nice, isn't it? :) You can get one of Wikipedia's best images delivered to your user or talk page every day by typing {{Pic of the day}} where you want the Pic of the Day to appear. These are the July Pics of the Day. Regards, Sango123 17:45, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Yes it is quite nice. Im not sure I want the pic of the day, it looks a bit too big and cluttering. Anyways, remember to support me when I RfA. :-P *advertises* With much respect, Redwolf24 17:51, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Of course I'll vote for you! Providing I don't forget, of course. So in actuality, the chances are pretty slim. (Just kidding.) ;) Sango123 19:34, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
uh oh, better remember :P. I'll leave a giant message on this page saying ESSJAY NOMINATED ME (cause, just as I nominated him, he's gonna nominate me. We made a deal to nominate eachother at 2000 edits) and then you can go and gimme a yes :D Redwolf24 19:47, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
That wasn't a threat, was it? :D I just checked: You're at 1751 edits. Good luck in advance! Sango123 19:55, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Wow, good guess of me wasn't it :) If we keep using these colons we're gonna have a column with one letter per break Redwolf24 19:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I wonder if it's possible for the text to be so indented that it'll disappear...? Sango123 20:04, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I did it before :P Redwolf24 20:06, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I just tried it, but I suppose I shouldn't further mutilate your talk page. XD Sango123 20:11, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
>xD oh soooo many colons. Redwolf24 20:13, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh soooo addicting. XO Sango123 20:17, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Good thing I had wiki in fullscreen this whole time. It'd be run out otherwise. Redwolf24 20:22, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Speedied. When I first heard about 9/11 though (by word of mouth, not on the news,) I didn't think it was true either. Thanks for the help! Y0u(Y0ur talk page)(Y0ur contributions) 22:22, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
No problem at all. As for 9/11, my mum woke me up and showed me it on tv. But that Illinois thing was a well written hoax. Anyway's I've see you before as an admin and despite the fact that you're a newer admin, you seem to be doing fine. By week's end I should be at RfA, I hope I can count on your vote! :) Redwolf24 22:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I took a quick look at your contributions, and since I believe in granting adminship very liberally, I've seen all I need to in order to support you. As it turned out, that was the first vfd I closed (I had to look up how to do it,) so it was a good start for me anyway. Y0u(Y0ur talk page)(Y0ur contributions) 22:34, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Haha, I just read up a bit on the admin pages you're supposed to read when you become one. Anyways, look at Essjay who I nominated, his votes are like 40-1-1!!!!! Redwolf24 22:36, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, I did read that bit before, but I promptly forgot it since I had no intention of closing vfd discussions at the time. I will read it again if I ever decide to do so (all I've been doing as an admin is deleting speedy candidates and blocking obvious vandals after they have been warned.) Y0u(Y0ur talk page)(Y0ur contributions) 22:45, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Yes, its quite wise to not do too much until you know what you're doing. With respect, Redwolf24 22:47, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the greeting. Hope my work is up to your standards. (I tend to make a lot of typos.) Re the lemming: Looks like a small groundhog, don't you think? Cheers, User:LegalBeagle, 14 JUL 2005 (Vive la France!)
Yeah, a fat groundhog. I love lemming <3. Anyways, Viva la Fair Use :D. Don't worry about typos, there's always someone to clean your mess >xD Cheers, Redwolf24 22:42, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Pffft. I'm not even liberal (or conservative for that matter). Redwolf24 23:28, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Then you're a communist, because you are not Zod like me, so you cannot have the same opinions on things as Zod.
User:Iamzodyourzodeveryzod Boo yah.
Eh this is pointless. You forgot, however, to compare me to Hitler in a 5 paragraph essay. Work on it. Redwolf24 23:34, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't compare people to Hitler because that is pointless, because no one is like Hitler. You are an evil nazi, but you're not a Hitler-like evil nazi.
User:Iamzodyourzodeveryzod
Yeah you do go with the more mature things like changing the Democratic logo with a swastika. Redwolf24 23:39, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I know that's not mature. And anyway, that was my cousin, I went to the bathroom, and he got on for awhile and was being an idiot. So don't talk to me like I did anything for I am Zod and I can break you, so leave it.
Eh, you went to the bathroom for... half an hour. That's the time spent trolling my page plus the Swastika thing makes it even longer. Plus you signed with Oi VI. You're the same person. Redwolf24 23:48, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
You ignoramus! My cousin just did the hitler pictures and the swastikas and what not. I've been the one talking to you you imbecile. I can't believe that people that are stupid like you exist. It makes we want to start playing russian roulette with myself.
I've been here for a little while, and I actually admin my own MediaWiki (which I probably shouldn't link, since it's rather dead as of late..) I just don't tend to edit much around these parts, being an empty-headed college kid. But thanks for the welcome just the same. ~ Aero Leviathan 23:14, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha you forgot the sig. Im surprised a playstation wiki died, you'd think there'd be enough for it. Ah well, Redwolf24 23:17, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
I saw your post on my talk page, thanks for dropping by. I'd like to start a grandiose speech about my dreams for Wikipedia and featured articles to be, but the Simpsons is on, and a quick look-over of your page shows you like most of the same things I do: serial killers and decent music. Good luck on your administrative dreams, and thanks for welcoming me.Robludwig 23:37, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
After editing this 3 times, I realize it'll be a long while until I'm a decent Wikipedian. Yea, I linked that.Robludwig
Haha. Keep going at it, I'm not sure I'm a decent wikipedian :) Redwolf24 20:59, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome. I've been making additions to various video game articles, Sonic the Hedgehog especially, but never thought to bacome a member until recently. I'll try my best not to do anything stupid.
Haha, good mantra. Redwolf24 00:35, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I wasn't here while you were being trolled; you know if I was, I would have been all over him. I'm glad El C blocked him for the time being; I know El C, so if the troll comes back, I'll ask El C to take him out. Hope to see you back soon! -- Essjay · Talk 03:52, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Kate's tool is back online; just checked you, and you're 111 away! I'm heading off for my sandbox to draft an RfA...
Oh, and by the way, my 2500th is coming up quick! -- Essjay · Talk 07:18, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Since we have somewhat of a tradition, I just dropped by to say you're #2500! -- Essjay · Talk 09:55, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Oh my, Red! I was going to go find you a (legal) lemming pic to cheer you up, but when I typed in "Lemming + public domain" on Yahoo!, what did I find? Check #9. ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 11:01, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
I told you that lemming was in public domain :) I'm gonna lower my wikistress as soon as I reply to all of these messages!!Redwolf24 21:00, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Red, I'm looking for some counsel on a page that I created and is now up for deletion. The page is EcoDuro and it is listed in the Company listing. My thought was to list it properly in the Company listing and to write about the Company as part of a set of Companies I'm going to discuss around sustainability, which I believe is a pretty large global issue and will only grow.
The questions I have is that someone wants to delete the page for "self promotion". I read the criteria for deletion and there is no "self promotion" deletion criteria. the only thing close is the Vanity Page discussion, which I do not think this page meets. I've made comments and I'll try recruiting others to my page, but since you were kind enough to leave me a message, I thought I would reach out to get your comments/thoughts.
I have a true desire to improve the wikipedia and have already added a number of articles that I hope are valuable (American Alpine Club, Participating Preferred Stock, NAICS Entries among others). I have a thought to expand the Company section using the NAICS codes and integrating it into the Companies section of Wikipedia. It turns out that all companies or their subsidiaries will fall under the NAICS codes created by the US Census bureau.
Thanks for any thoughts or comments.
Ridiculous. I voted keep and left a comment. Redwolf24 21:03, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi, it me again. I have editted my writing according to your advice. Pls comment. I try to add to the category on the list of movies actress (L-Z) but it can't work. Pls help.
Thanks
YSC Fan
Since you weren't here, I took the liberty of answering this one. -- Essjay · Talk 09:55, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Hello, I am an anonymous troll and I want to be able to vote how I wish in Essjay's Request for Adminship. Anonymous political speech is protected by the SCOTUS, so I think it should be extended to anonymous voting in adminship requests. My "no" vote yesterday was a joke, but my yes vote today is serious, I think that Essjay would make a decent admin. Since I use AOL, you should probably respond to this message on your userpage, I'll come check it later.
64.12.116.10 16:06, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
The reason anonymous voting is not allowed is because I could sign out and vote again, don't you think? Sorry if this has caused you any consternation. PLEASE consider creating an account. Especially because you're on AOL Redwolf24 21:10, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the (templated, I know) welcome, Matt. I too am Canadian--from Toronto. This is a second attempt to contribute to Wikipedia, and I think I am (finally) catching on. Both positive and negative comments are welcome, though I prefer the former.
I am currently working on the Russian version of my Sopubek Begaliev contribution, and expect it should be finished this weekend. Cheers! Neil Glennie
If anyone bites you, there's a policy called "Don't bite newcomers" so just mention it to me and I'll mention it to them. :) Also remember to sign talk pages (like this one) with ~~~~ after your comment. The wikisoftware changes it to your username and the date and time. :) Redwolf24 21:12, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I hate the deletist geeks in art history. And your science section looks like it was put together by high school kids. other than that, i luv this place. PS------please vandalize my page.
Sorry About the spelling,
Adam Christopher Strange Singularity 22:04, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Maybe I'll send a link to your page to my next troll :) As for the science section, please add to it if you think it necissary. Wikipedia is a wonderful place :) Happy editing!! Redwolf24 22:08, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
I'll touch up here and there. I'm an avid Sientific American reader so it hurts to read something that is plainly wrong. Worst if it's overly complicated AND plainly wrong.
Heh... all we can do is fix it. Redwolf24 00:01, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
User:HisHoliness solved the long-running problem of Papal styles by moving the pope's life title to a "Trivia" section. This solution is non-controversial and is useful when the style after death differs greatly from that in life, eg. "Saint" or "Servant of God" or "Venerable". User:jtdirl, who has been involved in edit warring, reverted the edits of HisHoliness without discussion and blocked the editor.
This diff is an example of a typical edit. How is this vandalism? What justifies undiscussed reversion and blocking by an admin involved in an ongoing edit war? WikiKangaroo 22:23, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Did jtdirl block him without warning him or mentioning 3RR? That's an outrage. However there is a 3RR rule at wikipedia where if you revert 3 times, you will be blocked temporarily, this is to prevent edit wars. But there's no mention of the block at his user page... Redwolf24 22:29, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Sorry to jump in, but I think once a certain Pope dies, they no longer were styled as HH. The current Pope, Benedict XVI, is styled as HH. We had a problem of style usage before, and policy was going to be set on that, but it was FUBAR from the start. Zscout370(Sound Off) 22:34, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Zscout. My outrage is over how he was blocked without warning. Redwolf24 22:36, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
If that is how you feel, go to WP:AN/I and file a complaint against the admin in question .Zscout370(Sound Off) 22:38, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
No, no need. As I'm not even 100% sure he's blocked. Nice to see you again though Z, and by the end of the day I think I'll be at RFA. Redwolf24 22:39, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes, he was blocked. [4]. 16:42, 15 July 2005 Jtdirl blocked "User:HisHoliness" with an expiry time of 24 hours (repeat vandalism)
Without warning. :( Redwolf24 22:44, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Now, you have proof, so do take it to WP:AN/I, since a ban like this can be a serious offense. Zscout370(Sound Off) 22:51, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi there,
thanks for your post onto my user-talk page. Please can you help me? it's my first time to add page's and my english is not very well, so if you found a mistake please fix it for me. Best reguards --FireDragon 22:24, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
I'll be glad to fix it, and if I don't someone else will. We're all working together :D. Please also see Wikipedia:Babel. :) Redwolf24 22:26, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Unstrike that, you are in OUR prayers. Redwolf24 04:01, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi, thanks, sorry I didn't get back and thank you earlier, been off and on slightlly, pain killers make u see funny things, and not see things you should. Unfortunately, your message was masked by "Bart", ugh. But thanks for the concern, getting lot better, bruised bones, but none broken. Now to get my bike fixed. Salut. ∞Who?¿? 23:41, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem. That Bart guy ughhh. Yeah painkillers do that to you. Amazing you had no broken bones, I broke my arm [in half!] on my mountain bike when a van was coming towards me and I went to the side of the road and I saw a boulder coming up so I slammed the breaks and flipped off it. Anywho, get well soon Now. Redwolf24 23:45, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey red, if you like my painting maybe you'd be good enough to give me a keep in VFD. If you're more inclined to vote BFD, that's cool too. I'll still be luving anything you contrubute about AC‡DC. I'm not sure how to answer you're vandalism question? I'm new so I haven't got the snanzy snit down. I get a lot of traffic on my website so I was going to turn peeps on to wikipedi through my soon to be deleted page. Singularity 23:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Ha no problem about the compliment and no problem for the AC/DC Contributions. As for making the page on yourself, it is considered vanity to make a page all about yourself with the only contributor being yourself. I'll go post your War at the article but I'm gonna abstain from voting for now. Redwolf24 23:59, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Is this a wiki policy? I don't see any specific mentions on WP:CP (besides other lyrics pages getting reported as above), and I don't find any other pages dealing with what is and isn't a violation. If you could point me to the right page I'd appreciate it. NormalAsylum(talk) 01:54, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah all I used to do was work on lyrics but then I was pointed out that lyrics are always copyrighted. Hold up lemme find the link! Redwolf24 01:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. Wow, that was a quick response! --NormalAsylum(talk) 02:06, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem, the only time I'm not watching my page is when I'm asleep, and when I'm doing that, Essjay takes care of it :) P.S. if you see fit, vote me in at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Redwolf24.Redwolf24 02:09, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I've been having a bad few days, some really bad stuff has been happening to me lately. So I'm sorry for personally attacking me. But will you please stop featuring me as a "troll" as you call it. I know what I did was wrong but I don't deserve to be belittled like that. I know that you told El C to block me, but I'm okay with it because like I said, I was being a loser. But also I've been having a few bad days, just so you know.
Thank you for your gracious apology. I'll try to remove the troll things. Redwolf24 03:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Okay thanks for fixing the troll stuff that I have looked at. Also I want to ask..."He has since apologized. I was actually impressed by his apology", why were you impressed I'm just wondering? Iamzodyourzodeveryzod 04:03, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick welcome. To be honest, I'm a little weary of sites that give free reign to anyone edit anything unrestrained (it just feels like you're asking for trouble), but miraculously, things seem to be going all right here. Eh, whatever, it's a free, so why complain?
Yes we have our share of vandals, but they're scoped out and warned and then banned. Also, remember to write ~~~~ after a comment on talk pages. The WikiSoftware changes it to your user name and time and date. :) Redwolf24 03:24, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I just answered you at my talk page. Thank you for telling me how great I am creating album articles. I save them at my own list of albums. -- Mike Garcia | talk 03:32, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem. I'm gonna go upload some images to your Alice Cooper albums :) Redwolf24 03:33, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw you uploading album covers of his old albums. You're keeping up some great work. -- Mike Garcia | talk 03:40, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yep. Wiki doesnt seem to have a big enough fanbase for Alice Cooper :( No problem though. Oh by the way, I'm listed at RFA! Vote for me (or don't). Redwolf24 03:44, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
And I finally voted for you! By the way, are you a musician like me? I'm good at playing guitar, though. -- Mike Garcia | talk 03:51, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes I play the git-box. Since March of 04 :). My hero would have to be Tony Iommi (of Black Sabbath), hes a fantastic player even though he's missing two fingers! Redwolf24 03:56, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Good stuff, Gotta love that violin bow stuff. As for Nowell, I think I prefer his singing over guitar. Daron Malakian is crazy himself :) With respect, Redwolf24 04:04, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh you've added more... Adrian Smith is one of my favorites. I created the article for Disturbing the Peace (by Alcatrazz) and I love Whitesnake. By the way, have a look at User:Redwolf24/Bands! Redwolf24 04:08, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I was an Iron Maiden fan since I was in middle/high school, I enjoyed listening to one of their albums (The Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind (came out in the year I was born, '83), Powerslave) and attended one of their concerts during the Brave New World world tour, they visited Los Angeles, California (where I live now). I see you have it on your list. The other bands you have in your list and don't have I like and grew up with other than Iron Maiden are:
Big Drill Car (they were never popular a popular group over the years and their albums are kind of difficult in stores now, they were close friends with ALL and Descendents)
Some good bands there. I ought to listen to Bad Religion... Anywho, Nirvana is my second favorite band (only beat by Black Sabbath). I live in Washington State so I love Nirvana (as well as Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Jimi Hendrix, Pearl Jam, Heart, Candlebox... etc. My state is a good one for music, only beat by California (No big surprise, you have WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more people. Redwolf24 04:31, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Audioslave is my favorite band created after 2000 by FAR. I wouldn't call them a sideproject though as both those bands are dead. Redwolf24 04:42, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I left you a message on User talk:Redwolf24/Bands for something you should try out. It was nice talking to you about bands and everything. I'm going to bed soon. Goodnight. -- Mike Garcia | talk 05:09, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I try not to archive anything until it's at least five or six days old, and the top comment always stays. I'll go move off some of the old messages; I've been playing in my sandbox with an "I'm an administrator" template for after the RfA is over. -- Essjay · Talk 05:37, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Ah alright. As for the I'm an administrator... You're a bit cocky aren't you, I mean, what if Jimbo votes you down. If anyone saw Jimbo vote you down they'd support Just Like That. :P Though thats about as likely as me being killed in my sleep by a sponge. Redwolf24 05:39, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't think Jimbo votes much. Actually, since I'm doing it in the sandbox, if for some reason I lose, I can just wipe it out. I'm just trying to be prepared! ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 06:11, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Jimbo forbid himself from voting I'm sure. Redwolf24 06:13, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad to be here and it's kind of fun being an editor. I just started work on my first article, Chimpanzee and Human Communication Institute. Would you mind taking a look at it and offering suggestions? Fallstorm 05:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
That article's lookin' good! Needs a picture though, possible of Washoe, who's link I fixed. Redwolf24 05:58, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah, that's cool. I've heard of Bothell, but I've never been there... I'm not too much of a Seattle-area fan myself. Nice place to visit, sometimes, but... Fallstorm 07:16, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Ha, but you must admit, it beats Tacoma. Redwolf24 07:18, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
hehe, that's true... I got a bad vibe from Tacoma. Fallstorm 07:24, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
All the killers and rapists seem to be from there. That place must have the highest crime rate per capita for any town with more than 100 people.... Redwolf24 07:26, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi Mattwolf, and thanks for the warm welcome. Glad to be here - will contribute anything I know. (Although I've known about and used Wikipedia for ages now, I was compelled to join and contribute after reading the recent article about Wikis on www.howstuffworks.com
Ha, you read my user page :) As for your name, I see your last name is bhagat, I have a friend over here in my city in Bothell with that last name, where are you from? And also Remember to sign with ~~~~. the wikisoftware changes it to your user name so we may track you back :D Redwolf24 06:50, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Bhagat is my last name, Raj is my middle (always has been for male members of our family, though funnily enough, the reasons are unclear). Bothell eh? Nope, don't think I know anyone there. I'm in New Delhi.
About the tilde...Did you mean I should sign in with Hiteshrajbhagat 06:57, 16 July 2005 (UTC) followed by my username?
Nope. Look, it changed it for you :) Anyways Bothell is a city of Washington which is a state of the USA. He is of Indian descent so I see its an Indian name. Redwolf24 07:00, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Ok I saw what happened there - kinda. I just used four tildes and it changed to my username.
(I know this seems silly, but throw me a bone - I haven't read though all the extensive instructions yet..and I will.)
Cheers,
Hitesh
:) remember to do it after every comment at a talk page. Redwolf24 07:01, 16 July 2005 (UTC) Oh by the way, if you see fit, vote me in at WP:RFA#Redwolf24.
Yeah, I noticed that; I just went and warned him, if he keeps it up, I'll got to AIAV or one of my admin buddies. Four more days and I'll be able to whack them myself! -- Essjay · Talk 07:43, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Six days later for me (please God...) Redwolf24 07:44, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
50/1/1 and 14/0/2! -- Essjay · Talk 07:55, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Two neutrals. thats twice as many neutrals as you have >:( Redwolf24 07:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, but I have 100% more oppose votes than you. Plus, neutral doesn't hurt you, it's oppose that cocunt against. -- Essjay · Talk 08:27, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
You're very welcome -- you've more than earned my praise (and I should have said more, but you're clearly sailing through, and people around here get tired of my magnum opi (if that's the Latin plural)). I currently reside in Sammamish, I grew up in Shoreline, and I've had several close friends in Bothell my whole life. Ah, Bothell...."for a day or a lifetime". :-) Jwrosenzweig 08:31, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I am truly honored to have the vote of a bureaucrat (to be honest, I one day hope to be a bureaucrat (gah that word is annoying to spell) but thats not for a Long time. Yes I love my town of Bothell. I also love our state's music... from Jimi Hendrix to Nirvana, Washington Pride! With much respect, Redwolf24 08:34, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, thank you, but really being a bureaucrat is a remarkably trifling thing. I've only promoted a handful of admins (Cecropia and Raul are far too efficient to let me get a word in edgewise). There was a time (perhaps past now) when my support would influence a few others, but now I think I'm just an old gunslinger, outdone by the energy of newer editors. :-) Still, though we are not now that strength which in old days moved heaven and earth, that which we are, we are. I'm happy to see that, to some at least, my track record here is meaningful. :-) Best regards, Jwrosenzweig 08:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC) Note: I don't know why I said Raul...I was thinking UC. I don't even know if Raul is a bureaucrat. The late hour bewitches the mind. Jwrosenzweig 08:57, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Wait, for a day or a lifetime is the slogan of Woodinville. They seperated from us in 1993 (or is it 1992...) Redwolf24 08:35, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I feel sure you are wrong...at least, the sign coming in to Bothell always reads "Welcome to Bothell...for a day or a lifetime." I know it well, as I would always turn to my friends as we drove past, and say impishly "is that a greeting or a threat?" :-) Yet you are a native Bothellonian... Jwrosenzweig 08:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
O loyal son of Bothell, go ye unto http://www.ci.bothell.wa.us/ and look upon the motto blazoned with pride in the title bar. Clearly civic patriotism and motto memorization are in their waning stages... Jwrosenzweig 09:00, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
DOH! I mixed up slogans. The Woodinville slogan is something like Country Style, City Size... or something about those two...... Redwolf24 09:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Now I'm offended; I nominated you, remember? Remember me? [Goes off to cry and play in his sandbox.] ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 08:46, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Hahaha. 1 in every 20 sandboxes has traces of urine. I believe this may be true at Wikipedia too. Redwolf24 08:47, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I declare, you two have the strangest wikifriendship I've witnessed in a year or more. :-) Jwrosenzweig 08:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Indeed! My trolls are his trolls (though he hasn't been sharing his trolls with me :( ) Redwolf24 08:58, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
If we keep it up, somebody's going to accuse us of being sockpuppets...
You're right, I haven't been sharing my trolls; would you like for me to go to his talk page and invite him to harass you? -- Essjay · Talk 09:05, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
From two minutes before I suggest we nominate eachother at 2,000 I thought we'd be called sockpuppets. >xD Redwolf24 09:06, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Gentlemen, you simply haven't arrived as Wikipedians until a known troll/disruptive editor has accused you and a friend of being sockpuppets of each other. These accusations (and the discussions in their aftermath) are some of Wikipedia's brightest, most fleeting joys. At least, I find them absurdly delightful. :-) I wish you both luck in being mistaken for each other. Jwrosenzweig 09:08, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
No, our styles are different... He's a fan of Are You Being Served? and I'm a fan of Alice Cooper. He's a doctor of Theology and I'm some guy who overuses "haha". :) Redwolf24 09:10, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
See, this is what delights me. I'm almost always accused of being a sockpuppet of a user who bears almost no resemblance to me whatsoever. Perhaps I am among the few who find this sort of surreal accusation hilariously funny. The amusement is heightened when, upon denying the accusation, I am informed that this is classic sockpuppet behavior. Attempts to prove my innocence by pointing to contributions, editing styles, differing subject interests, etc., merely reveal the kind of depraved depths to which I and my sockpuppets will sink in order to subvert Wikipedia and thwart my enemies. Incredibly funny stuff. Well...thanks for this very fun and amusing chat -- I'm to bed now, I think. I hope we can chat again (and perhaps we'll meet face-to-face at the next PNW meetup) -- best regards, Jwrosenzweig 09:18, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes I plan to go to the next Wikimeetup in Seattle. Good night though. However for the sockpuppet thing just show them Wikipedia:List of Bureaucrats and that should shut them up. :D Redwolf24 09:21, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Raul is a bureaucrat. Anyways, you can promote me upon winning my RfA :D Redwolf24 09:12, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
He's a doctor of Theology and I'm some guy who overuses "haha".
God that made me laugh! See, that's why I don't tell people these things; I get judged by my qualilfications. That's why I haven't given my real name or said where the degrees are from/where I teach. ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 10:13, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Red, I just saw this, and it struck me as funny that my answer there was such a perfect setup for something like that. I walked right into it! Anywho, see you later! -- Essjay · Talk 13:31, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Congrats Redwolf! You are a sysop cadinate!! And you are getting a lot of support. There was two edit conflicts when I tried to vote for you because so many people are voting for you. Congrats!!--Exir Kamalabadi | Contributions 11:48, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
I hereby award you the Working Man's Barnstar for your hard work on Wikipedia and gigantic amounts of edits compared to your relative short time on Wikipedia--Exir KamalabadiContributions 12:09, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Haha as I layed in bed I thought CRAP I FORGOT TO TELL EXIR IM UP FOR ADMINSHIP. Anyways, thank you MUCH for the barnstar :) KEEP ON TRUCKIN' EDITING Redwolf24 20:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha, I already know you will be up for adminship. I'm sure you will be admin (Look at the number of wikipedians who supports you)--Exir Kamalabadi | Contributions 01:12, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
Good stuff! :D Redwolf24 01:16, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Your welcome. Hopefully you'll be able to return the favor someday. I'm sure you'll piolt the U.S.S Adminship well. Howabout1Talk to me! 14:53, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
I'll look out for icebergs. Redwolf24 20:57, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
And ship-devouring seahorses. Sango123 21:16, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
aw man, I HATE those! Redwolf24 21:18, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Hello Dbraceyrules. I see you got a lot of wikistress. May I ask why? I do hope you don't leave wikipedia. Every time we lose a competent wikipedian, the idiot ratio gets a bit higher :-( Redwolf24 06:35, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
If you are ever bothered by a user Marijuanaisbad. Just know that is my brother, so if he does something stupid, I beg of you please try to go easy on him. Since he is somewhat mentally retarded or mentally disabled, and sometimes he doesn't understand what's right and what's wrong. Just so you know.
Hi redwolf24 - you may not know me, but I've seen a lot of your edit around, enough to like what I see :) Good luck with the rfa! Grutness...wha? 01:48, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I think I'm doing just fine :D With respect, Redwolf24 01:51, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Indeed, it will be good to have you on board our merry Adminship, watch out for icebergs and remember to clear the hull of trollacles. Good luck Arm 05:45, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Hopefully you won't make me walk the plank... Redwolf24 23:25, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to express to you, personally, that I do not mean any disrespect to you for my comments on your RFA. I just personally feel you could use more time working on more parts of Wiki, than just user talk pages. I feel this is very commendable, welcoming users, and discussing things, but administration comes with a bit of experience too, and if you do not participate in larger areas, you won't have the necessary experience in those areas. I although, have seen you on some VFD's and work on some other articles. This is just my opinion, and I hope is not offensive. I also do not think two people should nominate each other, but this is a personal topic, and didn't need mentioning, as there would be a consensus vote anyways. I wish you good luck with your RFA, and hope you heed some of my suggestions. Thank you. ∞Who?¿? 02:20, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I thought there'd be a backlash about people nominating eachother. But hey, why not. And all I have to say is this, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight tooth and nail for your right to say it." -Voltaire. Happy editing and with respect, Redwolf24 02:23, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for understanding, and if for some reason you don't make it this time, which I doubt you won't (as in you will make it "double negative" :) ); I would be happy to vote for you in the future. ∞Who?¿? 02:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem. You should've seen Romania recently, a user wrote something along the lines of FUCK ROMANIA ROMANIA SUCKS ROMANIA WILL DIE and no one reverted it! I saw it after it was listed under speedy deletion >.< Anyways I reverted it and then the anon called me a cumstain. Ah well. And by the way I replied at the RfA, but I want this part to be amplified I hope you've recovered from that motorcycle accident. With respect, Redwolf24 02:33, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Yea, I'm getting there, no more pain killers, so can edit clearly now. I saw your note, sorry I wasn't precise, I did a poor mental tally by scrolling through your contribs, it was pretty close, I even thought about changing the note, but honestly thought I put "half" and not "over half" :).
I always thought you were an admin. I was just searching old admin things when I saw that you didnt have a page there. Now that I see that, I notice theres no reference to being an admin, despite the fact that you have over 7000 edits. Please, allow me to nominate you? Redwolf24 02:59, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
You know, I get that a lot, "I thought you were an admin..". Thank you for the offer, I don't want to hurt yours or Essjay's RFA, so I think it would be better for you both, if you didn't nominate anyone right away. I'll eventually get noticed, when that time comes, I hopefully will have unaminous (sp) support, although I do have some stressful discsussions with some other users, nothing bad. I have a lot of edits, only because I enjoy organizing, I am not a good article creator either, I'm better at "admin" type stuff, but you dont have to be an admin to do it. Thanks for noticing. ∞Who?¿? 03:08, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Err, I guess I took too long to respond. :) Thanks for the RFA. I hope it does not effect yours with other users. ∞Who?¿? 03:12, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
(Replied) and to anyone who reads this, go vote for him! Redwolf24 03:18, 17 July 2005 (UTC) fixed gender :) ∞Who?¿?
Well crap then, you better go turn down my nomination at RfA..
Look, I'd rather have you be an admin than I. Sounds like a load of crap there doesn't it? Nah. You would use the tools MUCH better than I. I can NOT believe you haven't been nominated yet. Here's hoping you make it :) Redwolf24 03:15, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Not really sure how that would look for me or you, I think its probably better for me to accept, as you only intended it in good faith. Thanks again. And never doubt yourself as a candidate, you have worked hard on doing the things you have done so far on Wiki. My comments were merely guidelines, as I did wait for you to have votes, before making them. Thats why I specifically stated that it was not to be taken negatively. You will make a good admin, I just hope you take the time to go through more of the facets of Wiki, before you get thrown into them in a conflict. Thanks again. ∞Who?¿? 03:22, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Looking for the right wording, and answers to all the questions first. :) ∞Who?¿? 03:25, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
For pronoun's sake, you are a woman right? Essjay referred to you as she so I assume you are a female. I've been stepping over what sex you are by just saying "this user" etc. So which are you, for the sake of pronouns? Redwolf24 03:32, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Hehe. I am male. The name, as stated on User:Who, is just reference to my Ojibwa given name, and its funny because its ambigous. I guess I missed Essjays reference. I have a page I have to show you later on dealing with these blunder issues :) I placed your banner on my userpage, thanks for asking, but that sort of thing isnt necessarily rude, same with barnstars. Thanks, working on my temp page for the RFA before I post it. ∞Who?¿? 03:37, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, you'd better get hopping, because you already have four support votes! (And I am denying any involvement in a mass admin-nomination scheme.) By the way, Hi, Red, I'm here! -- Essjay · Talk 03:41, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
Yea, didn't mean to imply that you were, per say, I just hope no one else see's it that way. ∞Who?¿? 04:17, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
K, got that settled. yes I stick barnstars on pages often but your page is so organized I didnt wanna stick a banner smack there on the top :-P Your RfA (As well as mine and Essjay's [like we need it ;)]) is in my prayers. Redwolf24 03:43, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Organized?? Heh, I think it needs more structure personally :) ∞Who?¿? 04:15, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes you're here and causing me edit conflicts, jerk :-P Redwolf24 03:43, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh, go shove it, you know my edits are more important that yours anyway! ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 03:47, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
Ok, took some time, but I responded, just had to find all the appropriate links and such. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 04:15, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Your RfA doesn't look so good. This makes me feel terrible :-/ By the way I don't see the problem with the image requested template, I think its a good thing as I've replaced one of those before... Redwolf24 22:59, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Don't feel bad, you had nothing to do with the conflict, it was a completely seperate and pointless issue , that I unfortunately had to be involved in. ∞Who?¿? 05:17, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi, thought I would make a new section, for ease of reading and discussion. Here is the link I told you about. Spivak pronoun, when you get into those gender specific areas, some people, and I stress some, understand these. I often get into that same situation, sometimes I just put a link to their username/userpage in order to work around it :) Hope that helps, or is educational if you already didn't know them. ∞Who?¿? 04:28, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Sorry it took so long for me to respond to this. I was talking with a lady friend <.< >.> anywho, I read about this before I even registered. It drives me nuts to tell the truth. I STRONGLY suggest you read The Language Police, which as for the article, I'll work on when not talking with these people.. Redwolf24 04:32, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
No prob, had categories to move anyhow. Yea, I'm not all for that "Language Police" stuff, I somewhat believe in "PC" comments, to be polite, but not really. I think it is actually more offensive to remove or censor/edit topics that were written in good faith, without original gender/race bias, than to nit-pick what someone interprets the language to say. I meant, only use it in discussion, to avoid a gender blunder, but would never use it in an article or to censor a topic. ∞Who?¿? 06:03, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
You randy little bugger; always off chatting up the ladies when you should be welcoming new users or fighting trolls! I may just have to go change my vote... ; - ) -- Essjay -· Talk 05:01, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
:-O! Fine Ill stop. By the way, my bud WolfDreams is a new wiki user. Im helping him out... Redwolf24 05:04, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the well-reasoned comment to my vote (though I don't completely know what the second half meant). I've already (before your message) supported User:Who, as I come across him frequently on CfD, occasionally on TfD and elsewhere. I do not think I will be voting in User:Essjay's RfA since you currently have two nominations out there, which is rather too many IMHO (there are other places to make friends...), and I have good backgrounding in Who, and very little in Essjay. It looks like all 3 of you will succeed however: congratulations! -Splash 05:44, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I nominated Essjay before I even met who but then I saw who wasnt an admin which was OUTRAGEOUS so I had to nominate him. Im considering nominating you as I see you in so many places... but if I were to not for a like a week, when the three of us clear our nominations. ; - ) Redwolf24 05:47, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I already left my thoughts at Who's RfA. -- Essjay -· Talk 05:51, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
Well that kind of angered me. I commented too. Redwolf24 05:57, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
<after edit conflict>
I wrote my comment on Who's RfA before I got your message on my talk page and replied here. I didn't cross post. -Splash 06:04, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind suggestion (particularly considering my opposition to your RfA). However, I would prefer it if this was left for a while as my first edit was on 2nd June 2005. I'd never pass on that basis alone, despite my edit count and involvement (though it might make an interesting test of how rigid the 3 month rule really is!). You can take a look at User:Guettarda's comment on my talk page as evidence of this. Also, I think it would better if your current RfAs (including your own) had dropped out of recent Wiki-memory before making anymore (or before making one for me, at least). But thanks anyway! -Splash 06:04, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I already replied to Essjay's comment on his talk pge. He considers the matter closed. -Splash 20:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I've already archived the discussion; it's here. -- Essjay -· Talk 20:44, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
Could you please add full speedy tags to articles instead of just the category? ({{db}}, {{d}}, and {{speedy}} should work)- Mgm|(talk) 08:18, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
Hi, you're very welcome and certainly deserving of adminship. Sorry to see you're feeling stressed, hope things improve soon.
The name comes from a book BTW, called Beyond Lies the Wub. I've never actually read it (I'm not really into sci-fi), but a friend had it and I just liked the absurd title so much I decided to pinch it :) the wub "?/!" 14:24, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I'm just answering messages and watching over the 3 RfA's I'm a part of... I'm not into science fiction either but the wub is a good name I must admit ;) Redwolf24 20:32, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah. Yes. There are a number of you canis lupus types prowling around Wikipedia. I mistook you for Redwolf when making that comment. However, if it helps, I did look though your contributions before voting, and did wonder why I was not seeing the sorts of contributions I thought you typically made. That being said, I'm happy that someone that contributes as you do should be an admin. Oh, I feel terrible now :) --Tagishsimon(talk)
Yes there's also RedWolf and his bot, CanisRufus. I should make a category of Redwolves >xD Redwolf24 20:33, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Red, I made you a new toy to help cheer you up. It's an autowelcomer! Just type the name of any user into the box, and it will automatically welcome the user (well, it will take you to thier page and insert all the text, you'll still have to click "save page.") Hope you like it! -- Essjay -· Talk 16:04, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
(I removed it, Red, because it was being used by someone else; check the page history. -- Essjay -· Talk 18:44, July 17, 2005 (UTC) )
What, I didn't say anything! El_C 19:01, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Red, haven't talked to you in a while; just checking in on you. I saw that you were going to be out today; drop me a line when you get back and let me know how things went. (And also, whether or not you checked the history to find the autowelcomer.) -- Essjay -· Talk 21:52, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
Yep I saw it. Handy! You mean I should go pick it up? OH by the way I didn't leave to see my grandpa yet... its like a 5 hour drive and we didn't feel like making it today. Redwolf24 22:11, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, I didn't want to leave it out in the open; we had some problems yesterday with User:Marijuanaisbad using it to "welcome-spam" people, including Jimbo. I figured you'd go copy the code and paste it somewhere in your subspace. Sorry to hear you didn't make it to see your grandpa, but glad to hear you're back with us! -- Essjay -· Talk 23:23, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
Ugh. Yeah I'll go retrieve it now :) Redwolf24 23:28, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Good; I'd hate to have gone to all that trouble for nothing. ; - ) Also, I have a page I want you to see, but I don't want to post a direct link here, so I'm going to email you. -- Essjay -· Talk 23:30, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
You've suffered your fair share of abuse lately haven't you? Is that just from welcoming a new user? Added User talk:Iamzodyourzodeveryzod to VIP on Saturday (for something else but added his contributions here to my complaints)! Regards Mark 00:04, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
I did an AN/I on him & Marijuanaisbad, too. -- Essjay -· Talk 00:08, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Whoa there, zod has apologized to me and I think he's fine now, that was a while ago and he was blocked for it. Redwolf24 04:17, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Hello, Redwolf24/FullArchiveREDWOLF24 IS THE BEST!!! I have just submitted a request for adminship, and I would be honored if you submitted a vote. :) Thanks, Sango123 19:06, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Lmao, I see you said {{PAGENAME}}. I feel slightly less special now. You should've at least said Subst:PAGENAME :-P Redwolf24 21:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm deeply sorry. I should have typed REDWOLF24 IS THE BEST!!! :D And thanks for supporting me! (I'm a she, by the way.) Regards, Sango123 21:59, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
I knew it!!!!! I knew you were a she!!! but everyone was saying you're a he and you didn't object. Rawr, Redwolf24 22:03, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
I tried at vote #7, but it didn't quite work. XD And I humbly thank you for the drama and excitement table! :) Sango123 22:15, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
"[...] why she's self nominating I mean I'm sure many people would've nominated him." Yay! We've reached a compromise! :D Sango123 22:19, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Considering your cold, thoughtless {{PAGENAME}}, I feel I must go retract my vote now. ; - ) -- Essjay -· Talk 22:04, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Retract your vote if you must... just keep in mind that my grandmother is ailing and Boohbahs are seeking world domination! ;) Sango123 22:15, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Considering the potential invasion, I'll leave it for now, but if they don't attack, I'm starting an RfAr! ; - ) By the way, what's wrong with your Grandma? -- Essjay -· Talk 23:17, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
She has clinical depression and some other things that come with old age, so you'd better not aggravate that with a request for arbitration! ;) Sango123 23:45, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
This wouldn't be complete without accusing someone of being a sockpuppet... Sango123 you are a sock of ClockworkSoul! :-P Redwolf24 23:51, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
I won't aggrivate it then; I know what depression is like (I'm bipolar). -- Essjay -· Talk 23:56, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Hahaha!!! I didn't see that She/Him thing. You do me a favor and fix that :-P Redwolf24 23:59, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Fixed! And how'd you know I was a sockpuppet... unless you're one as well?! ;) (My condolences, Essjay). Sango123 01:27, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
As for me, don't worry about it; as long as I take my meds, I do fine. (And I have a Psychiatric Service Dog who keeps me in check.) -- Essjay -· Talk 13:33, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf, thanks for the thanks! I do know where Bothel is, I spent many a night playing some texas hold-em and bowling when I got broke at the Casino/Arcade/Bowling ally up there. I used to live in Bellevue and the Green Lake part of Seattle when I was a dot-commer. Maybe a Wikipedia meetup for the PNW is in order? Triddle 20:40, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
You, me, Jwrosenzweig, Michael Snow... Perhaps we should have another Seattle meetup. Redwolf24 21:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
You're quite welcome. I give you extra points for the Fonz pic. Woot. ^_^ --Merovingian(t)(c) 22:06, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Haha, your signature takes up more space than your comment! Anyways yes I take a pride in my user page. Redwolf24 22:08, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
I am sadly aware of that. If I put it in a template, do you think it would turn out alright? --Merovingian(t)(c) 22:10, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Not sure, test it out. But it is a pretty signature I must say :-P Redwolf24 22:13, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I definitely will. --Merovingian(t)(c) 22:14, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Hmm you seem to be one of the younger admins... I still believe that once mine clears I'll be the youngest ever. Stay tuned Redwolf24 22:25, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh? How old (or young) are you (if I may)? --User:Merovingian(t)(c) 22:32, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
You'll find that out when I win my RfA :D Redwolf24 22:33, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Your thank you is appreciated too! Redwolf24 22:51, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
I welcome just as many people as Red, and I rarely get thank yous...I think he stalks my contribs and replaces my welcome with his! Vandal! ; - ) -- Essjay -· Talk 23:03, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Pffft sure ya do ; - ) Redwolf24 23:19, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the input, but I'm not going to withdraw it. Feel free to oppose it, but from the support, I might make it. I really want adminship, but on my first RfA, people said I wasn't exerienced enough. One said if I doubled my edit count (I had 650 at the time) they would support. So, having done that at 1300, I nominated myself. The supporters now seem to trust me, so I don't feel I need more edits. I don't really beleive in edit counts any way, except if someone has 1 or 2 hundred. So thanks again, but I'm not going to take your advice. Howabout1Talk to me! 23:05, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
No problem. Essjay convinced me and I'll be supporting you as soon as my RfA cleared. I'll avoid any controversy until then. Redwolf24 23:19, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
See, I knew I could get my sockpuppet straightened out! ; - ) -- Essjay -· Talk 23:30, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
It's me again. I need some help :) I've gone ahead and was bold, by starting a new page (Amapasaurus_tetradactylus), after stumbling upon it's parent using Random Article. My problem(s) are fairly simple:
Did I Do The Right Thing? (aka: Can someone check and see if I made screw-ups somewhere?)
How To Link To URLs With Square Brackets? (ie: See my references.. one of the sources I used has a url containing square brackets, which are seen as markup by the wiki..)
If it doesn't take too much of your time, could you check these things out for me?
Taken care of at his page. ANd yes you did the right thing :D You seem to be on your way to becoming a great editor. Redwolf24 00:47, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Congrats on your nomination on the RfA, and the overwhelming support! -- BMIComp (talk) 01:32, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for that congrats :D Redwolf24 01:33, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
You are very welcome Redwolf24, you are truly deserving of the admin title and I believe you will be up to the task of adminship. Continue the good work. Derktar 04:02, July 20, 2005 (UTC).
Thanks for your kind words. Sincerely, Redwolf24 04:03, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
You say that you're addicted to wikipedia. I'm just wonderin', but how addicted are you?--Exir Kamalabadi | Contributions 11:07, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
He's pretty darn addicted! His score is 475. -- Essjay -· Talk 13:31, July 20, 2005 (UTC) (who scored 608)
Yeah the average registered user gets like what, 70? 100? Redwolf24 21:36, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
I get 80 or something. I try to limit my time spent on wikipedia to 1 hour, but some times I forgot to check the clock. Anyway, why are you so addicted? Since when did you get addicted? --Exir Kamalabadi | Contributions 07:25, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Been addicted since Early June. But look at Essjay's score!! Redwolf24 07:28, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
And I'm only at a measley 387. :( ∞Who?¿? 07:32, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
What can I do to help make you less addicted, Redwolf?--Exir Kamalabadi | Contributions 07:40, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Hah, NOTHING ;D Redwolf24 09:49, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Wow Who, 387, that's also really addicted. Redwolf24 10:31, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm not addicted; I checked with my psychiatrist and he says that as long as it doesn't interfere with the rest of my life (and come on, I have tenure, what are they going to do, fire me because I cancelled all my fall term classes and gave all the students automatic C's?) ; - ) -- Essjay -· Talk 15:05, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Hey I was just saying I've never seen a score higher than mine, let alone one over 600! Redwolf24 15:07, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for voting in my RfA; I promise I'll wield my sacred mop with care. If you ever need me for anything, you know where to find me. Thanks again!
Of course, thank you for nominiating me, and everything else; I'm so excited! -- Essjay -· Talk 15:09, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
And thank you for that copy and pasted thank you message despite I was the one who nominated you :-P Redwolf24 21:35, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I had 68 people to thank! I did at least give you the extra line there! Considering that comment, and that I nominated you for yours, I'll expect a 900 word essay on why you'll be a good admin when you win! -- Essjay -· Talk 15:02, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
A lot of the biggest users voted in yours I see yet they seem to have avoided mine. Such as... SlimVirgin, Lucky 6.9, and Mindspillage. Also it was odd how many people are saying three months isnt enough for me yet youve been around perhaps a month longer and no one commented. Alas! By the way how likely do you think the Pope Joan thing is? I'd say like a 5% chance of being true... though its still possible... Redwolf24 15:09, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I've been here since Feb 8. I just stayed in the theology section until then. I would guess that a lot of the "biggies" have seen me on RC patrol and that's why they voted. You're still winning! I'll have to investigate that particular article, but Pope Joan in general is a complete myth. -- Essjay -· Talk 16:21, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Oh probably. Yeah point is I'll still have a landslide victory. Not as much as yours though, or Sango's for that matter. Redwolf24 16:26, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, Sango is doing really well. I just gave Pope Joan a cursory glance, but from what I saw, it's pretty accurate; it's a complete and utter myth, like Vicarius Filii Dei. Oh, and by the way, keep your commentary out of my threats against heretics; it's for me, not for you! : - ) And, one final thing, why no MSN? -- Essjay -· Talk 16:31, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Hahaha I felt like "hax"ing your page. Ugh I hate those people who think they're hackers cause they blank user pages. Ah well though. The reason I'm not on MSN is cause its 9:30 AM. Normally I wake up circa 2 PM. So I don't wanna confuse my friends. Now I shall test out that signature thing. \n /n
Damnit! How do I use this extension?? Redwolf24 16:38, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, it would have been a lot easier to explain over MSN, but here it is: Go to "Tools" then "Extensions." Find the entry on the list, then click "options." That will give you a box where you can add, edit, delete, etc. new sigs. Go to your welcome, copy it, then paste it into the "new sig" box, give it a name, and click "save". Lather, rinse, and repeat. ; - ) And if you need more help, find me on MSN, so we don't have to play tag. -- Essjay -· Talk 16:51, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind, but I put the same blue link with the "leave me a message" on my talk page. I'll vote for you to be an admn. to make it up to you. :) Horatii/Dbraceyrules 17:41, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Don't thank him; he stole it from somebody who stole it from somebody! Theft of userpage features is the most common crime on Wikipedia, and the ony punnishment is to slap you on the wrist if you forget to change the code to point to your userpage. (Speaking of that, make sure you change Redwolf24 in the code to Dbraceyrules.) ; - ) -- Essjay -· Talk 18:17, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
Haha I've given this table to lke 10 people as a gift. But this guy just outright stole it from me :O Nah I don't mind at all :) Redwolf24 21:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
My brother marijuanaisbad, died in a car accident a few days ago. This is the first time I have been on since. You know the thing on the administrator incidents, will you take it down, I don't want to be able to see that you think my brother was too messed up to be able to be on wikipedia. Iamzodyourzodeveryzod 22:47, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
My condolences. I didn't post it, find the person who did. Redwolf24 22:49, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
I want to tell you I lied, I always lie, I'm nothing but a swindler. I'm sorry, I'm such a liar. My life has completely gone to hell. I can't do anything, anymore. I'm done with my life, since I've ruined so many others. Iamzodyourzodeveryzod
Zod I can't completely blame you for venting some vandalism. However if you wanna do that just go to Uncyclopedia where vandalism is often welcome. However please don't play on sympathies you may anger some wikipedians. Heed my advice, Redwolf24 04:13, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
I blocked him indefinately for vandalism. -- Essjay -· Talk 15:00, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the help message.
Wikipedia Username 06:14, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
No prob. Good to see you using the tildes, by the way, great user name... Redwolf24 06:15, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
All I really can do is contribute things about music, since other things that I know are already done. Yeah I know the user name is very "creative" and "original". Wikipedia Username 06:21, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah we really need all the help we can get on music related articles... Redwolf24 06:24, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey Red: Just letting you know, that in an abuse of my admin powers, I deleted Wikipedia:Protestant Church of Wikipedia and moved my "WikiCult" page there directly. Even though it was my creation and I couldn't care less whether anyone knows that, I didn't want there to be GFDL issues with not having the page history. Great idea though, but I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up at VfD. -- Essjay -· Talk 14:25, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Hey hey hey it wont go to VfD as its like 4 times as long as the church its in opposition to. As for the moving thing, you may wanna clean the talk page... Redwolf24 14:32, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Looks like you already did! -- Essjay -· Talk 14:59, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Oh by the way I got FireFox now. (No I did not have it before). I love this tabbed browsing I must say though this font takes some getting used to. Redwolf24 14:51, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Isn't it great! You can go into the settings and change the font. Make sure you get the sig extension! -- Essjay -· Talk 14:59, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Ahem... could you gimme that link once more? Redwolf24 15:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you a lot for your warm welcome, I have been active on NS.Wikipedia, (See my main article: Sozy) so I already know some basics of wiki editing.
I just edited some information about my village of birth, Sleen, which was (sadly) pretty much a blank page. Which raises my question, do you think this is still a stub, considering it is just some information about a small village?
I am very interested in becoming an administrator. What would yo reccomend I do to achieve this goal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous0513 (talk • contribs) 18:02, July 21, 2005
To become an administrator, nominate yourself at RfA. HOWEVER as you are now you will be shot down by voters. Do NOT nominate yourself til you get about 2000 edits. People can be quite mean. Redwolf24 18:05, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Allow me to elaborate: To become an administrator, keep making good, valuable edits to articles. Make some friends, fight some vandals, work your way up. Vote in a few VfD's, a few RfA's, and give the Wikipedia: namespace a try. When you've been here for three or four months, made a couple thousand edits, and generally established yourself in the community, you can nominate yourself, if someone else doesn't nominate you first. Be sure that you understand how the site works, and be sure the admin tools would be helpful in what you do. Once you've done this, you'll have a good chance of being promoted. -- Essjay -· Talk 18:10, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
I noticed your contributions to The Long Road. Thanks for digging up the info---what may make your job easier in future is using Template:Album infobox. (Info is available over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums.) If you look at the article now, you can see that the syntax is smaller, can be styled by changing a single template, and is a lot more readable. Happy editing! grendel|khan 19:01, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Nah I prefer my version. It looks better in my opinion. Plus I'm not doing the syntax I'm just typing {{Subst:User:Redwolf24/Albumtable}} Redwolf24 19:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
It's not really a preference thing; there's a WikiProject, with its own policies, which you're perfectly free to discuss, but this way, you're making unnecessary work for the folks who came up with the Album infobox style. (There's also an empty template available for convenient copying and pasting up on that talk page.) grendel|khan 19:38, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Alright. Nice to see your oppose vote at my RfA and nice to see you uploaded a new image to wikipedia on The Long Road. Now we gotta delete the old one. Redwolf24 19:43, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
The old one's already listed on WP:IFD. Nothing personal about the oppose vote---I think you could use more time to get acclimated to the traditions and pseudo-policies that have grown up around here. I know you're a shoo-in, but I may as well have my say. grendel|khan 19:58, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Any reason though for replacing my image which is not only older than yours, its the exact same image? Same pixels and all. Redwolf24 19:59, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
I Dbraceyrules hereby award you this barnstar for being a great Wikipedian, and one of the rare kind ones on top of that. Horatii/Dbraceyrules 19:07, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Just wanted to know that I was glad to support you on being an adm. Hope you get it. I also decided to drop in a barnstar, because you are an extremely kind editor. Horatii/Dbraceyrules 19:07, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm honored. As for my RfA, no worries I'm a shoe in :) Thanks for that award I'll add it to User:Redwolf24/Awards. Redwolf24 (Talk) 19:11, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
This is the kid that three days ago was telling me I was being cocky for prepping an "I'm an administrator, here's how to contact me" section for my userpage! HYPOCRITE! ; - ) -- Essjay -· Talk 19:15, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
thanks for saying hello, I'm not really new on Wikipedia, have been editing the Polish and German Wikis for about three months.
Shaqspeare 23:05, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah. Still, welcome to the English Wiki :) Redwolf24 23:05, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
I also have been here for quite a time... Not particularly active, but I edit here and there :) Thus, I already new the gubbins about tildes and so on.
With that, thanks and goodbye! Fish-Face 23:13, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Glad to bbe of service. Redwolf24 23:14, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for welcoming me so warmly to Wikipedia... I kind of started off making nonsense pages and vandalizing on purpose but I got past it and thought this is a really cool community, I might as well join and help fight vandalism and get some useful information on here. Jory Plummer
Good to see a bad user go good. Happy editing and remember to sign pages. Redwolf24 03:23, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Hello, just a quick note to express my gratitude for your support of my RfA. I'm sure I'll become a familiar face on places like the Administrator's Noticeboard and Requests for Adminship, as well as the murkier parts of my new job. "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." (Luke 12:48, NIV) Never was a truer word spoken. I feel empowered, yes, but not in the "oooh cool delete button!" way I was kind of expecting. Already I feel the weight of the responsibility I have now been entrusted with, a weight that will no doubt reduce given time. Thank you for believing in me. :) GarrettTalk 10:17, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem but I hope youve checked AN/I, your name is up... Redwolf24 21:25, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
I hadn't, and no-one informed me. That is not a good example from people trying to point out my own errors. GarrettTalk 01:04, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
are per se, de jure incivility. If I started a new job and someone told me that they shouldn't have to trail around cleaning up my mess within ten hours of me starting, and never even bothered to say "Welcome aboard," I'd tell them to take their job and shove it. (My apologies to those with sensitive ears.) From what I've seen around the site, it's indicative of the behavior of quite a few senior admins: "Criticise sharply, never constructively, and for God sake don't ever say good job." I think WP:DICK sums it up. -- Essjay · Talk 21:59, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
Its strange, just as we were all newbs once, every admin was an ADMIN NEWBIE, and they can get yelled at for that, they're just expected to know everything as soon as voted in. Of course, I don't think I'll be doing as much as you or Garret have on my first day... Redwolf24 22:10, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Gah, I've kind of been the sacrificial lamb here going to the slaughter. And yes we all know who the butcher was. But there will be a resolution... gee, reminds me of a song... :) GarrettTalk 01:04, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Remind them to Not bite the newbie administrator. Which should be me in 2 minutes! Redwolf24 01:15, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
As it is now, there are only a handful of admins that stand up and notice other users for their efforts, and not enough of them to defend others if its a controversial subject. (not that I know about those ;-) ) It will be nice to have 3 new admins that are willing not only to recogonize users for their benefits, but also stand up for them if they are taking heat for something that may have been a misunderstaning or mistake. ∞Who?¿? 01:24, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Congrats again Redwolf. =). Sorry to hear about all this happening to you guys. Just remember to follow the policy to the letter, don't bend the rules when it comes to speedy (admins were doing this a bit before, but the intention of the new CSD rules was to make new policy so you don't have to bend the rules). Review all the policy pages if you have to. Take your time, if you're not sure about something, ask if you have too. I'm sure this is all common sense, but I'm saying it anyway. Anywho, admins still have to be civil, which it seems like tony was not aware of. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING)
Don't jingse it now! El_C 01:22, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
You mean jinx. Anyways, as of five minutes ago I should be an admin. Redwolf24 01:23, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh yea, and congrats Redwolf24. ∞Who?¿? 01:26, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Hah! And most definitely do not correct my mis-spellingses! El_C 01:52, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh come on, Jingse? :-P Redwolf24 01:53, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
What? It's moderately comprehensible! El_C 02:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Well its also chinese, but I couldnt track down the translation for it ;) ∞Who?¿? 02:05, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Leave me be! I'm promoting grammatical ignorance one word at a time!El_C 02:09, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
hahahaha, Way to go >xD Redwolf24 02:11, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Not only that, but promoting grammatical proficiency as well, seeings I had to search all over to find a good match for the word. ∞Who?¿? 02:13, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
It just occured to me now! /bows in incompetence. El_C 02:14, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
BTW, for more on the 2nd google entry, see User_talk:El_C#Surrealist_cheers. Short answer I did end up Jing.., erm, Jinxing it. File:Meh.gif Surrealistically yours, El_C 02:19, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm new at this, and I'm not sure what you instructions mean. I have uploaded to pictures. These pictures are currently not in any article in Wikipedia. I simple want to permanently delete them from the website. Again, how do I do this (in layman's terms).
Sean
Ok first of all, instead of typing Sean, type ~~~~. It lets me trackback to you. Second of all, you can't delete the images as you are not an Admin. I should be one in about half an hour (see RfA). When I become one I'll delete them for you. What are the two images? Remember to link them. Redwolf24 00:42, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Here are the two pics (by me, Sean Reynolds) I give you permisson to delete. By the way, sorry for the garbled language of the last message. Sometimes I type too fast.
Congratulations, you're an admin! Be sure and take a look at the Administrators' reading list and Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide if you haven't already. Please try to be conservative in the use of your newfound abilities until you are sure of the limits of community support for your actions. Best wishes, The Uninvited Co., Inc. 01:37, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, Redwolf24. I hope we can be friends despite the little hiatus of a week or so ago. Use your mop-and-gun wisely (and, read the policy first, or your talk page will go the way of another user's...) -Splash 02:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha I accidentally reverted TO vandalism. Other than that, check my log, I'm doing well. Redwolf24 02:33, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
TO vandalism? I feel no particular urge to check admins' logs; I trust them, even if I miserly opposed their RfA. But since you invited me to, I would have done the same as you on your first three deletions, and have been particularly satisfied at the new policy now allowing the first two! -Splash 02:41, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes that Persecution of Jews one I screwed up, a very Newb mistake. Anyways yeah I hope we can become friends. If you need admin help, you know where to find me! Redwolf24 02:43, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
It comes on CBS at like either 9 pm EST on mondays, 930 pm on tuesdays, and i think 10 pm on Wednesdays. something like that im not sure. Jobe6 01:44, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
Why did you revert back to the blanked version? --malathiontalk 01:51, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I just became an administrator and I saw the [Rollback] thing. I thought you put that link there so I was clicking it. My apologies and that won't happen again. Redwolf24 01:52, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Bwahahah! Congratulations! Careful with those shiny new buttons, now. :D El_C 02:43, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
What does this button do... El C (talk) (block) Hmmm... :-P Redwolf24 02:44, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes Ive been looking for some huge vandal to nuke :P Redwolf24 02:49, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I see you have just become an admin! Congratulations. And I have to admit I got a chuckle out of the above ... I was a bit confused by all those shiny buttons at first too... You'll be great: happy editing and adminning! Antandrus (talk) 04:05, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
If I got a laugh my job is done :) Just one action of mine I'm not sure about, I deleted Kristen Abel (you're an admin right? you can view it) but now Im not sure I should have. Everything else I've deleted I was sure about. Redwolf24 04:07, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Hm, seems to have been reincarnated. It's an obvious vanity article; that kind used to go through VfD, but I'd better go have a look at the "new speedy deletion criteria" in case they have really changed ... that part is news to me. Antandrus (talk) 04:10, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Please, tell me how I protect a page from being created. Redwolf24 04:14, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
The only way I know is to blank the page and then protect it (I've done this a couple of times because of persistent vandalism). You use the {{vprotect}} tag and then list it on Wikipedia:Protected page--there's a section for pages protected against article re-creation. Antandrus (talk) 04:18, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for greeting me. I am, I admit, new to wikipedia. I would like to say something. On 23:19, on July 22, 2005, SogeKing hacked my Wikipedia with the message,"U CANNOT STOP TEH HAXZOR!1!!!1!1 TRY AS U CAN U SHAL NOT SUCSEED!121!! IF U DEFEET ME ANUTHER SHAL TAK MY PLASE!1!!11 LOLOL!1!1!12!." Before this, 69.237.175.153 amd 205.188.116.68 hacked it with the message ,"ZOMG TEH HAXZOR WAZ HEER!1!!11 JUS LIK IN TEH 'HOT COFFEE'11!!1 LOLOL1!1!!1 GO SPEED RACER, GO SPEED RACER, GO SPEED RACER, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!11!!11!2" There were several "updates" leading up to this one. Please track them down. Thank you.
Mr.Smith999999 02:36, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
I warned SogeKing. Redwolf24 02:38, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
I know I'm not the first to do this, but I would like to extend my congratulations to you on becoming an admin. I'm positive you will make an excellent addition to the admins, and know that you will continue to act just as civily as you have always done. Thanks for working with me on that article, and prompting the other soundtracks to come out of crappy little shortnesses. Keep up the good work, and have a great night. Again, congrats. :)
Hello. Thanks for the change of heart. Don't take my vote personally. I think you are a great Wikipedian. I just figured a little extra time would have been better. Congrats anyway. -- JamesTeterenko 04:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
sorry for that Newb mistake you caught me doing. Ironically enough I've been working on speedy's now. Redwolf24 04:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
You and Essjay are the biggest clueless admins on the face of wiki. Welcome to Jiang's Backdoor Banana, beeeeatch!--MickeyJiangBobbyhomo 05:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Is a Backdoor Banana for banana splits with fudge or chocolate? ∞Who?¿? 05:09, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha, what I always wanted. Redwolf24 05:28, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the links and the introduction into the Wikipedia. I was a bit baffled at first when I saw what there was to edit, but I think I'm going to try and stick with it. :)Windsamurai 05:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
I think you'll do an admirable job as admin, and I welcome you to the post (moink's classic description of adminning would have me offer you a mop and pail...which is probably a good indication of the glamour of the job). I also want to commend your nobly independent spirit -- with 500+ admins working to rollback vandalism, your solitary efforts to restore it have in them a manic grace which is too fine for words. :-) Needless to say, my bizarre sense of humor (which enjoys sockpuppet accusations) finds the thought of you puzzled by the "rollback" link and clicking on it most amusing. Don't worry too much about it -- sometimes I misclick and rollback a legitimate edit....then have to rollback my own edit. Most embarassing. :-) I'll give you the best advice I can (which was given to me long ago) -- before you try anything new with your admin powers, talk with a trusted admin who's been around a while and knows the ropes. I tended to rely on Angela and mav when I was first an admin (and confused about transwiki, copyright resolution, page moves, etc.) -- even on simple deletions, it can be a good thing to get a second opinion. Especially the first time a user mouths off at you (or files a complaint) because of your admin work, before you write one word of response, it's good to get an outside opinion -- show them what happened, and ask what they might have done, and what should be said. It's honestly not a bad way to go every time you're under fire, but especially the first time. There you have it -- a pearl of wisdom, such as it is. Use it wisely. :-) Once again, my heartfelt and enthusiastic congratulations, Jwrosenzweig 06:23, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Now for the serious thing, if I need admin help I'll ask you. Now here's the first thing, how do I protect a page from being recreated? Redwolf24 06:27, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Heh, thanks for the confidence. Prevention of page recreation is near impossible. If the title is remotely legitimate, it might be good as a redirect (it's much harder for casual vandals to figure out how to get to the actual redirect....of course, the down side is that you've supplied them with a nice article to vandalize) -- of course, redirs inhibit article contribution, so if there could ever be a legit article at the title, it's not an ideal solution. I believe that, before you delete an article, you can put it on your watchlist...I think that survives deletion, so that if it ever reappears you notice it. That's as close as they come. This all, of course, assumes that there is no legitimate article waiting to be written for that title....if there is, write it, man! :-) That or convince one of your army of minions to do so. :-) Sorry I'm not more helpful! Jwrosenzweig 06:34, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Well I've seen pages that I listed for deletion be protected from recreation. Redwolf24 17:30, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Wow. I wonder if, before you delete the page, you can protect it? Odd. But then what if someone someday wants to create the page in legitimate fashion? Sounds like a good question for the village pump or else WP:AN (possibly Help desk...I can't keep track anymore). If you do find out the answer, would you let me know? I'd be most curious (and likely to weigh in with my opinion on the wisdom of the action). Jwrosenzweig 04:47, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Well you'd only protect articles from being created like... LOOK AT MY AMATEUR PORNSITE, IT GETS 14 HITS A MONTH! and the guy keeps on recreating it. I will let you know if I find it again. By the way I listed you at User:Redwolf24/Friends. Redwolf24 04:57, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Makes sense...I'd just want to be sure that was the policy in practice. :-) Thanks for keeping me aware. Thank you doubly much for listing me as a friend -- I am honored to have gained your respect so swiftly. I admit to feeling a little embarrased that your quasi-mentor was an absolute failure answering your first admin question. :-) But I expect you'll be understanding. Have fun adminning things. :-) Jwrosenzweig 05:05, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Its fair, I mean come on I dont even know what quasi is! Redwolf24 05:10, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks a LOT! James. :D :D :D Redwolf24 06:01, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
No prob. Do you find it ironic that we both voted against each other for adminship, yet we have been helping each other out this weekend? :) -- JamesTeterenko 06:25, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, at least I changed MY vote :-P Redwolf24 09:10, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Okay, next time you are up for adminship, I'll be sure to vote for you. If you want, I'll even nominate you. :) -- JamesTeterenko 03:32, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Actually to tell you the truth I hope to one day run for bureaucrat, but thats not for a long long long long long long long time. Redwolf24 03:34, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks again for the warm welcome. So, here's something I haven't found a guideline on. Surfing the recent changes page, clicked on a new entry, and found, at the top of the page, a very large and fairly explicit pornographic set of images (definitely not work safe). Now, I can't imagine that's WP policy, but who knows. Thus, I'm asking you. For the record, the page is AHMO HIGHT. (I've left as-is.) Please advise. Thanks! --DNicholls 11:40, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
I see no image... But WP does have a policy against pornographic images. Redwolf24 17:30, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah. Looks like someone got to it beforehand, which is welcome. (The writing was all fan/ad-driven POV anyway.) Thanks for your answer. --DNicholls 22:12, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, just in case you want a link for that question. WP:NOT, if you didnt' have it ;) . ∞Who?¿? 22:20, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning about the potential blocking, I didn't know that I was "recreating the page" over and over again; I merely thought I was continuing to edit it.
Also, I didn't find that I had "messages" until after I was already done editing because I've never received messages before until I attempted to create this page. I saw the miniature "You Have Messages" text completely by accident and I'm somewhat perturbed at what would have happened if I hadn't noticed. I meant no harm in the page's creation and was merely setting it up for a friend so that she might use it for college applications/references. This was the first "vanity" page I've ever created, and with the fire and brimstone it has wraught, it shall also be my last.
Again, many apologies for my ignorance.
~FinalStrife7
Sorry I think as a newbie admin I accidentally restored that article and I thought you did it so that was why I did the blunt warning. So sorry for the somewhat harsh warning, I'll remove it. Redwolf24 17:30, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf24 ... I appreciate the welcome message. The links you included are very helpful to me as a newcomer, and it's nice having them collected in one place. Some of them I knew about and/or had already read, but some not. (Also, I hadn't known about including a category on a newly-created page.) Thanks again, and Happy Wikipedia-ing. --r.e.s. 14:43:45, 2005-07-23 (UTC)
Hey, congratulations! Sorry I couldn't come earlier; this wonderful hate message (the username as well) had me a bit preoccupied. Have fun with your new admin abilities! Sango123 18:31, July 23, 2005 (UTC) (P.S. My birthday is 9-25-91).
I will, and if that person sends another hate message I will ban them temporarily. Redwolf24 20:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Lmao, apparently, that was his third. [5][6] When is Mr. Apple's bedtime, anyway? :) Sango123 20:38, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
Blocked for a week. See his talk page. Redwolf24. 20:57, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, thanks! That was quick. Sango123 22:02, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
No problem, if you ever need me you'll know where to find me. Redwolf24 22:58, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome message. I really believe that Wikipedia is at the same time a real and fantastic asset to humanity, so let me express my gratitude for the work you (administrators and contributors) put into it.
No prob, but remember to sign with ~~~~ Redwolf24 20:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Hey, great job administrating! I noticed that Image:GradHat.gif doesn't have a tag. You might want to put one in there. --Matjlav 23:13, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment, very appreciated. I uploaded that gradhat before I knew all about tagging, but I'm a fast learner. Its public domain. Redwolf24 23:20, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
OMG A GIRL!!!11111111!!!1 Oh noes this faggy admin bloked mi, ibe t he likes gurls HAahaAahaHAaAhAha (im so alone :() Redwolf24 23:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
IT'S ALIIIIIIVE!!1!1
0MG y0U vaN d4L1Zed mY t4Lk p4GE hoW d4RE Y0u yoU F4g!!!11!!111!1!! (And thanks; I'm deeply honored to be listed on User:Redwolf24/Friends. Have some cake!) Sango123 02:28, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
Hahaha, I was making fun of Apples of course. If he pops up again I'll block for a month. Redwolf24 02:32, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for helping me along here. The VFD for EcoDuro was actually a pretty good learning experience and forced me to think some things through about WikPedia. It seems to me that the "governing body" is going to have to become seriously active in developing a pretty large number of guidelines that are "nurtured". I live in Ann Arbor, where we think a lot about these things because the University of Michigan has such an active Library Science school, and UMI (now Proquest) and Borders Books were founded here. Proquest has the second largest library in the United States in a combination of electronic and Microfilm vaults...anyway, in thinking all this through, it seems that WikiPedia will head towards a "credibility gap" if it is allowed to drift into a "group grope" (not sure you'll find that in the Dictionary, since I'm pretty sure I invented the term). Some of the challanges I have observed are:
- Motivating subject matter experts to overcome the friction created by lesser experts without creating so much control that Wiki diminishes the multiple perspectives. One of the GREATEST opportunities for the Wikipedia is to capture the multiple facets of history for the FIRST TIME IN RECORDED HISTORY. This alone makes it a valuable tool. The key is establishing a way in which the guidelines nurture with only a modest amount of frustration.
- It is going to take a lot of thinking to figure out how to develop the Wikipedia as the most credible source of public encyclopedic information, but I think the fundementals are here.
- Reward significant credibile contributors. The rewards I'm thinking of are not financial and I see there are some designations that look interesting from a peer group. I wonder if there are other incentives that may be created for those who materially improve the document.
- Provide a place for significant points of view about material subjects. This may be a related wiki, but wouldn't it be absoulutely amazing to get Collin Powell and Saddam Hussein to write THEIR description of what happened leading up to the Iraq war? I would want their points of view virtually untouched, but litsted clearly as a points of view. Seems a stretch now, but as Wiki becomes more popular, there may be many significant historical items where Wikipedia may be THE nuetral source to document history.
I think I'm going to need to learn more about the Wikimedia project and how I can help with that. If you have any thoughts please let me know. By the way, I need to figure out how to make one of those "leave a message" blocks on my page...I like it.
I love to help and thanks for those notes there. You seem to be on your way to becoming a valuable contributer. I'll do the message table for you. Redwolf24 02:21, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations on becoming an admin! I know you'll make a great one. I've been away for the weekend, without access to a PC so I couldn't congratulate you earlier (and have also been suffering from wiki-drawal symptoms!). BTW, I left some suggestions on your bands talk page. the wub "?/!" 21:48, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Shweet, I love band comments. And thanks for the congrats! Redwolf24 02:30, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm so very excited for you! Sorry I haven't been around; I got pulled away Friday night and have been quite busy over the weekend. But, I'm here now, and as I said, CONGRATULATIONS!
Oh, and two things: I blocked your Apple character indef. for the virus threat; that's def. one case where and indef. block is the right way. And, I see you found my status indicator; I like it! -- Essjay · Talk 23:49, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
Poor apple, all he wants to do is make fun of girls for being female >xD Redwolf24 02:30, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
What do you think about getting together a US Wikipedia meeting / chapter. Is there one? If not, I would enjoy pulling someting together in Ann Arbor, MI. If there is interest, I can reach out to the University of Michigan School of Information or Internet II for places to host a meeting and to help provide some keynote speakers/panels etc. --Ronreed 23:57, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Ron we don't really do U.S. cross country meetings. Plus if we ever did it'd probably be in... Chicago or New York. Nah, since our country is so big we just do local meetings once in a while, like you could go to a Detroit one. Redwolf24 02:30, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
for the kind comments, and for the barnstar (and the resulting warm fuzzies). And congratulations on getting to man the admin-ship yourself; sorry I wasn't around to support you! (Just got back from actual and wiki vacation, now trying to catch up... whew!) Cheers and happy editing, Mindspillage(spill yours?) 04:43, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
No prob at all, you deserve it. Im enjoying my adminship and watching out for icebergs, hoping I wont have to walk the plank... etc. Nice to see you back from SF. Now back to work. Redwolf24 04:46, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
I have a question. I am brand new to Wiki so I am still learning my way around. I have an account for English version of Wikipedia. But if I want to write an article in another language for that particular Wikipedia, do I also need a different account, or I can just switch from English Wikipedia to, i.e. Serbian Wikipedia within the same account? Thank you!
Lana
Sadly you need an account for every language of wikipedia. You have to create a new account at the Serbian wiki. Oh and remember to sign with ~~~~ the WikiSoftware converts it to your user name. It is necissary for you to do this at talk pages like this one. Redwolf24 05:57, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf24: Thank you for your welcome note on my user talk page. You recommend that new articles be placed into category(ies) so that articles are not orphaned. I read the wikipage on categories and it looks like you just make them up? Did not see a master list of categories to choose from. Any suggestions? sitearm 14:39, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
No don't make them up... Pretty much any article can be placed into a category. You'll get the hang of it eventually but until then I can categorize for you, just tell me what has to be categorized. Redwolf24 20:56, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
I've categorized some already using categories I found on similar articles (e.g., "physicists", "biologists", "museums") but IS there a master list of existing categories? sitearm 03:29, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes, sadly for lists you must do it yourself. As for the mastercategory list, try the main page where it says CULTURE GEOGRAPHY HISTORY etc. and pick one of those, then find the subcategory you want, then the sub of that. Etc. If you still need help just gimme the article name and I'll cat it Redwolf24 03:30, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
If there were a List of Categories itd probably be 100000 items long... not very helpful either. Redwolf24 03:31, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
at user:iamzodyourzodeveryzod, um there's something there that I think is a "personal attack", so will you tell him to stop, or block him or something. (Its at the talk page) Thanks, Wikipedia Username 16:49, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf. This user has an inappropriate username and has a record of nothing but vandalism (see user contributions). Please block him as you see fit. Thanks, Sango123 18:05, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I was asleep, Kat got there first. The first Buttfucker was blocked by Essjay. Redwolf24 20:56, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
I've been seeing a lot of vandalism in the Internet Explorer article. Have you heard of a place called LUElinks. Thats where the vandalism is coming from. 21:48, 25 July 2005 (UTC)Warlock2
Yeah thats why I protected it. Also remember to sign your comments on talk pages with ~~~~ Redwolf24 21:46, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Okay then, by the way do you have an account on LUELinks? Warlock2 21:48, 25 July 2005 (UTC)Warlock2
Nope, never even heard of it. Redwolf24 21:48, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
No problem with the correction on the Epic Records signing. As an Allman Brothers fan, I couldn't let that go. In fact, right now I am listening to my Instant Live CD of their concert from Sunday night. KitHutch 01:15, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
The tickets were sold out when I tried to buy :'( Redwolf24 01:26, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I am, but I prefer not to put categories on my user page. --Michael Snow 15:20, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Aha, I killed the category now. Redwolf24 20:33, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh, well I didn't mean to just delete it :) I think the Wikipedian version of it will be fine, as there is supposed to be a project to convert all the lists by state to categories. As far as I know anyways, so don't see a prob with the Category:Wikipedians from Washington. I think Michael Snow meant that he doesn't put cats on his page, I have them on mine. ∞Who?¿? 06:04, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Nah its not what Snow said its just that I saw the list thats why I killed it. I think a category may be good but not now, too tired :P Redwolf24 06:06, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
I've done quite a bit of re-vamping on the Microsoft page, for example. I'm not sure if the process I used was preferred for this wiki or not... there hasn't been any reverts or anything yet so I'm assuming its ok... I've also been asked on my page how to proceed with page re-vamping. Is generally going from assumpitions on a page's discussion page ok? Are lots of edits ok or is one big edit preferred?
Thanks --RN 20:30, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Lots of edits are perfectly fine, one big edit is alright too but you may not want to change a page TOO dramatically if you think someone will care. Just remember to have it wikified (like have links to other articles so people can understand what youre talking about) and perhaps more importantly, stay NPOV. Redwolf24 20:32, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Hello, before you read on I would just like to say that I have so far only posted this to a limited amount of administrators for consultation. If you have any objections to its wider distribution or suitability for Wikipedia please let me know.
Hi, I would just like to invite you to find out about the World Community Grid Human Proteome Folding Project. This is a purely philanthropic project and supported by a "blue chip" corporation in IBM. There is an ability to join a team once you have downloaded the software and another user has already established the Wikipedia team.
I would like to emphasise that I do not want to pressure anybody into feeling obligated and I understand the limited computer resources/access available to some. Feel free to pass this message on and thank you very much for your time, Mark83 21:49, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't see the particular benefit this will have on me, plus it looks like it will take some of my bandwidth. So as of now I will refrain, but you still may be able to convince me. Redwolf24 22:02, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Both Ike9898 and David Newton have warned me that such a message (widely distributed) could be regarded as spam, so I'm not taking it further. Mark83 10:32, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Hello again, Redwolf24. Sorry for your latest message on my talk page, I was a bit of a semi-break. What I use in order to look for producers of albums is at allmusic.com where you go on to the credits section, you'll need an I.D. to go in there. You can try Artist Direct.com instead they have credits of albums. The charts I add on albums are from allmusic.com too. -- Mike Garcia | talk 00:32 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Redwolf. Thank you very much for supporting my RfA; your endoresment made my day! I hope to make good use of the mop. Sango123 01:26, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
No problem, I even felt like vandalizing your user page by creating a section called friends and writing my name there big. I have an obsession with placing my name places... Redwolf24 01:29, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! I've been deleting some articles. It's fun when the 'Reason for deletion' box fills up by itself. Sango123 01:57, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
Yes I saw how your logs were all speedy deletions. Thats what I did on my first day, but Sango, remember one thing: don't become enwrapped in your powers and keep doing the stuff that got you your AdminShip in the first place. Redwolf24
I'll definitely keep that in mind. Sango123 02:03, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
So, drop me a line when you block your first user and protect your first page ;) Redwolf24 02:05, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
I've blocked User:Jay¡g for impersonation and vandalism (moved Kiyotake, Miyazaki to WIKIPEDIA IS ISLAMOFACIST). Sango123 16:57, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
I protected his talk page for abuse, what did he do for the block anyway? Redwolf24 00:50, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
User:Finlay McWalter gave him two warnings for vandalism, see [7]. Only minutes after Finlay reverted Magicianrandy's vandalism, he again vandalised the Out of This World (card trick) page with abuse, see [8]. Magicianrandy also hurled abuse on his own talk page, so I blocked him for 24hrs. Perhaps it should have been longer. Moriori 01:30, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
I myself would've gone with 48 hours. But thats just me, the length doesn't matter as long as he ceases and desists. I myself just blocked User:Fuck Wikipedia. Redwolf24 01:33, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Using Foreign Languages in English Language Articles
Anyway, as someone who speaks a smattering of several languages, and currently on a little Sumo kick as my Bulgarian man kotooshu came within one win of having a giant white guy above the dohyo this July, I edit a lot of articles that could have a lot more Japanese in them. For instance, if I see something like Sekiwake, I really want it to read Sekiwake (関脇) for the few people who may be interested in such things.
There's also the fact that so many characters are used and reused in Sumo. For instance: Sekiwake関脇 - Third rank from the top in Sumo Ozeki 大関 - Second rank from the top in Sumo Sekitori関取 - A wrestler in the top ranks
The actual character means 'door' or 'gate' and, well, point is that I have no idea if they're supposed to be in there, or not. Since they currently aren't, I don't put them in, but I was wondering if it would be wholly inappropriate if I did.
Using foreign characters is alright as long as you have what it is in English there too. However do not write entire articles in Japanese as it is quite annoying, this is afterall the English Wiki. But yes we like to have origins in their own language with a translation. Redwolf24 02:30, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
You act as if I actually could write an entire article in Japanese. It would be just as annoying for the Japanese, as they probably wouldn't be able to decipher it either. I will get on task this afternoon with the expanding of the wonderful world of Sumo, and the European rikishi who inhabit it, and add the previously unknown dimension of chest hair to the sumo equation.
Hey I just wanted to tell you that I reverted my first vandalism a few minutes ago. Wikipedia Username 02:46, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha, way to go :) Redwolf24 02:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
A lot of people like to mess with George W. Bush's article, it's really annoying. But my computer also isn't fast enough to fix it before someone else.Wikipedia Username 03:07, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
I think I'll protect it... Redwolf24 03:11, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know that protecting the Bush article is a waste of time...the vandals wil be back as soon as the protection is lifted. I recognize your effort to be one made in good faith, but page protection isn't something to be taken lightly. Thanks and have a good one!--MONGO 04:08, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
Well weve been talking about those semi-protection things etc. So why not protect it til that happens? Plus is there really anything that we've added lately that wasnt a minor edit or vandalism or minor vandalism? Redwolf24 04:50, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, the liklihood that the semi protect will happen is low. There are too many people that just want to ensure that this wiki remains open to all. The page has been protected before and I think that the existing editors on RC patrol do a pretty good job of keeping things in check. I didn't have anything to add or delete to the article right now anyway.--MONGO 07:10, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
Any other admin is free to unprotect it as they see fit. As for me though I'll leave it protected. Redwolf24 18:25, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
I just joined wikipedia and I was just attacked on my talk page, please block the user. (comment by even in the quietest alleyways)
He's lying, I don't understand why whenever I talk to people they try to get me in trouble. Wikipedia Username 16:22, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Well I'll just ignore this section as even in the quietest alleyways was blocked for "racist abuse". Also he vandalized my user page... Redwolf24 18:25, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi I am fairly new to Wikipedia. I added an addition to the article on Vampires. There have been many contributors to the section. Recently, a user named DreamGuy has come in and has tried to make major changes to the article, rearranging and deletions. Me and other contributors don't agree with the changes but he keeps on trying to do it his way. We are willing to listen and ask him to discuss it on the discussion page but he won't and it seems like he is trying to bully his way around. It is starting to turn into an edit war, him against everyone else. Any advice? It is discouraging and it makes me want to give up on Wikipedia even though I have barely joined. I am sure other new members would feel the same way. I think the user DreamGuy has a history of bullying his way with articles though I can't be sure. Any guidance or insight would be appreciated. Thanks.--Evmore 10:19, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Eh dont quit wiki cause of someone else, everytime we lose a competent worked the idiot ratio goes up... Redwolf24 18:25, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations on obtaining sysop status. Take care, Dbraceyrules 15:11, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. Hey Dbracey dont you have a history with Dreamguy? But its a positive one isnt it? I don't know him just know about him. Redwolf24 18:25, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
The user Lunchmeatistasty has been vandalising, and I just want to say if he does it again I think you should block him. S/he keeps saying that s/he is correcting spelling so it isn't checked. So now I'll probably have to keep checking those things and I just don't want to. So I'm just giving you the heads up. Wikipedia Username 02:37, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
That's it I warned him he didn't stop. Go block him for me since I can't. Wikipedia Username 02:55, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Just testing out the new shotgun. You're not quick enough on the draw! :) JamesTeterenko 03:16, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Ha, also I want to say I have the fastest draw in the West... when it comes to welcoming. I'm a bit slower at blocking :( I'm a lover not a fighter! Redwolf24 03:41, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Congrats on becoming an administrator. Could use please correct a page I created. The title is World Peace Bell, but when I created the page I didn't capatilize the P and B in peace bell. Could you change that for me? Thanks. Reynoldsrapture
Done. And remember to write ~~~~ after your comment on talk pages! Redwolf24 04:04, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
This is annoying me so much, this page needs to be protected, because all the gamers are going wild on it. Not the actor but the attorney Wikipedia Username 04:08, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Taken care of. Redwolf24 04:13, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the kudos and I'm always glad to help, because after I've been here for a long time and do a whole lot of contributions I'd like to try to be an administrator, so I'm just trying to help as much as possible. Wikipedia Username 04:23, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
You haven't been here long enough for me to nominate you. Ask me round... October and I'll do it happily. Redwolf24 04:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I understand that, and I think I'll need a lot more contributions so I think I'm going to start working on more music articles again because this vandalism is beginning to stress me out. Wikipedia Username 04:30, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Wow, I'm kind of surprised to see an article on my program, WikiServer, here. I guess my question is if I add content to it, does that qualify as original research?
Go ahead an add content to it. Make sure its not an ad though! original research refers to like... go outside and perform and expirement and post the findings from that at wiki. Gotta do THAT the long way, I.E. get it published. As for WikiServer go work on it! Redwolf24 05:38, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
and remember to sign your comments with ~~~~ ! Redwolf24 05:40, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
I'll read up on these WikiServers... once you improve the article. Remember to removie {{stub}} from it when you're done. Redwolf24 05:50, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
How exactly would I go about starting a WikiProject on the Digimon-related articles? Is there anything formal I have to do? Link 05:59, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Ha, my apologies as I do not know how to do this one. Try the Village Pump or try a more experienced user, User:Theresa Knott. This really is the first time I didnt have much of an idea of answering something so if you need anything else, feel free to ask. Redwolf24 06:02, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
I have been editing some medical articles too (e.g., Soleus, Encephalitis, ventricualr hypertrophy, etc.)
Supten 10:02, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Alright I will. Back now! Redwolf24 19:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Thats looking like a stub. Add some interesting info (like check the site as a resource) like how big the population of the college is and who the dean is or where the college is even located. Redwolf24 19:58, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I have started expanding the site. Supten 08:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Estoy en un WikiBreak porque necesito tiempo para mi vida fuera de Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA ES ADDICTING!! Hasta luego, Sango123 00:15, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
I hereby declare you back. Now lets bounty hunt those newbies! Redwolf24 03:03, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
I'd be glad to assist you in decapitating and boiling them, but this is a public computer, and I declare myself yelled at to get off. See you in a couple of days, Sango123 03:06, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Redwolf24 03:09, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Just letting you know I blocked that fellow. Your friend, Redwolf24 00:01, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I actually saw it but have been on the phone arguing with dell all day, hadn't had a chance to comment. ∞Who?¿? 00:39, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha, Dell drives me insane at times... Redwolf24 00:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Ooh, if there were only a word to describe how I fealt about them today.. Ugh. They've had my new system on hold for close to a month, all errors on their part ofc. ∞Who?¿? 00:48, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
x.x get a different system then. The only good thing about Dell is their price really. Go Gateway! Redwolf24 00:53, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Actually I prefer to build my own, built every system I have ever used except for the Gateway that I have now, purchased for me. This Dell I get an awesome govt discount on and couldn't build the same system for anywhere near the price, very large system. Oh well, As long as they ship it by the end of the week, I won't have to deal with them ever again, yay. :) ∞Who?¿? 01:11, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah until it busts... Redwolf24 01:13, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Eh, I'll fix it then :) If not, I'm a retired IT everything guy, so I know how to deal with tech support to get pieces replaced. ∞Who?¿? 02:36, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh. Then build your own!!!! Redwolf24 02:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
(<- lots of colons) I'm saving about $1100 doing it this way, 2gb ram 1TB HD array, and the new Pentium D processor, are all expensive. This way I get my govt discount. ∞Who?¿? 02:58, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
What's the govt discount for anyway?? Redwolf24 02:59, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
100% disabled vet, so I have retired military status. Dell offers discounts to military thru AAFES (exchange stores). ∞Who?¿? 03:54, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah. Were you in Vietnam or Iraq I or Iraq II? Redwolf24 03:57, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Iraq I (desert storm). I was blown off an aircraft carrier by an F-14 and injured by back. Later on I got mercury poisoning which caused ALL kinds of fun fun problems. ∞Who?¿? 08:48, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Finally after my "hard work", I have now done over 250 edits. I just wanted to tell you. Wikipedia Username 02:13, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I recently got my 3500 mark. I can't wait til I get my 5000th... Redwolf24 02:27, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks rub in how much you've done. I'm just trying to get 1000 by the time I die. Wikipedia Username 02:33, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Cmon you got 250 in like a week. You should have 1000 before September easily. Redwolf24 02:42, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
lunchmeatistasty has returned, he messed with my page and someone elses, just block him forever, it's a vandalism only account. Wikipedia Username 03:26, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Sorry not yet. I don't have that right to block forever unless like theyre racist and especially hateful etc. Redwolf24 03:31, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
But he'll just keep doing it, and there's too many vandalisers as it is. But okay fine, I guess he'll be my enemy "roar". Wikipedia Username 03:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Meh I'll worry about it some other time. Redwolf24 03:38, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Hello, Redwolf24/FullArchive, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
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I couldn't resist. It broke my heart to learn that you were never officially welcomed. Ryan 10:12, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
I need to take that down as you're the third person to welcome me from that page! Redwolf24 19:59, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I'm sorry! I skimmed through some of your archives and didn't notice you had been welcomed since. :( Careless little me. Oh well, goes to show how welcome you really are. :P Ryan 08:16, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
You have to do this. Make sure the page is blank and type #REDIRECT [[Associated Students of Portland State University]]. And make sure theres nothing else at the page. Redwolf24 19:59, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
I have been a wikipedia user for a couple of months now. Not that I didn't enjoy being welcomed, but why am I being welcomed now?
-bkissin
I welcome anyone who has a blank Talk Page. Yours was blank so I welcomed you. By the way when I look at your contributions I see you haven't really done much for a month so you weren't gonna be welcomed while you weren't at wiki. Also one more thing, on talk pages such as this one, sign with ~~~~. The wikisoftware converts it to your user name and date. Redwolf24 20:17, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Were you quoting WP:NPA at me, or in support of your proposal? -Splash 22:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
In support of my proposal. I wasn't inferring you were attacking, dont worry. Redwolf24 22:37, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
ok, cool. And don't think I'm trying to dismantle a perfectly sensible idea. I just don't see the need for a poll, or for codifying the concept separately from WP:BITE. -Splash 22:39, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome! Love Wikipedia and everything it represents. I look forward to more posting and taking advantage of this fantastic research tool!
JaimeyWB
Thanks for the thank you. Yes Wikipedia and all it represents is fantastic. What if the sum of all human knowledge was available free to anyone? It'd be a utopia! Redwolf24 08:40, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Jaimey, instead of typing out JaimeyWB, type ~~~~ The wiki software changes it to your username and the date. This is Strongly encouraged on talk pages. Cheers, Redwolf24 08:40, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Redwolf. Thanks for the bestowing of The Black Sabbath Award! I am highly honored to be a recipient. *bows* Just one thing— What did I do to deserve it? :) Regards, Sango123 13:52, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
I just give that to the best of users. You've helped out a lot of newbies and you haven't abused the HMS AdminShip. Redwolf24 18:50, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I and a number of other users have agreed over at Talk:Jack Thompson (attorney) that the article got protected while a number of poor changes and additions to it were still in place. Could it be unprotected so improvements could be made? (If not, any ballpark idea when it will be unprotected?) I know the man is a controversial figure who generates no small amount of ire from some people, so there's probably always going to be some nitwit trying to add "Jack Thompson sucks!" to the article. Something we'll just have to deal with as we go, I guess. Thanks! GarageBay9
K, I'll unprotect it for now but I will protect it again if I see 19 vandalisms in a row with no reverts. Redwolf24 18:50, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Would you please do me a favor and close the VfD on this one? I don't want to remove the boilerplate tag until it's resolved, and your go-ahead would be most helpful. I've changed my reasoning, and it appears all voters are unanimous. Thanks again, mysekurity 23:47, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi I am new to Wiki. I posted a picture here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vampires.jpg) and used the tag, "This work is copyrighted, and used with permission. The terms of the permission do not include third party use. It is believed that the uses made here are likely to be fair use for most United States reusers of the work but this is a decision reusers must make for themselves based on their own circumstances. Permission granted by Wang Wei, the owner of image. E-mail Wang Wei at blizzard@wangwei-art.com for further information." A user DreamGuy says this is a copyright violation. First the owner who I know, Wang Wei, says it is fine where it is. I have an e-mail giving permission to have it in Wikipedia. Further, it is used as a promotional on his web page so it would even qualify as fair use even if not used is a free encyclopedia such as this. Can you let me know if I am in the wrong or not. If not can your protect the page with the correct tag. If I am wrong let me know so I can remove it. Thanks --Evmore 07:50, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Howdy. How did you arrive at a "no consensus" decision for Brent Walters? I'm not implying that it was the wrong decision, I'm just curious how you got it. Thanks. android79 15:44, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
I edit conflicted with Android79 just then, asking the same question! -Splash 15:51, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
5 Keep to 9 Delete. Thats rather borderline. Doesn't reach 2/3. Thus, its No Consensus. Redwolf24 16:55, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
In day-to-day Wikipedia practice, e.g. on VfD, consensus means something closer to supermajority, usually a two-thirds majority. In other polls, it has been defined as a 70% majority. In yet other cases, such as approving a request for a person to become an administrator, it is generally considered an 80% majority. In article disputes, consensus is used as if it means anything from genuine consensus to my position; it is possible to see both sides of a back-and-forth revert war claiming a consensus for their version of the article.
You didn't count the nominator, I think, which would make it 10d, 5k and reach two-thirds. It's your call as the closing admin, however. -Splash 17:33, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Correct. You may renominate it if you see fit. Redwolf24 18:36, 31 July 2005 (UTC) Yes its me at a friends house, not signed in.
No, I'll leave it since I was myself unsure of how to vote. Just so I know in future: is your personal take on closure to not count the nominator's vote (unless they clearly cast a vote, of course)? -Splash 18:57, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
That was rather sarcastic sounding. Yes I'll count it. 24.16.56.62 19:34, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
No, no. Some admins don't count the nominator's vote unless they make it explicit (which is why I always do when I nominate at VfD). I'm not out to get you and Essjay, you know. -Splash 19:36, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Sure? Yeah I had a feeling some of my VfDs would be yelled at, it was my first day doing it. I thought I did alright, I closed... I dont know between 5 and 15... Anywho Im gonna go eat. Redwolf24.
Positive. I saw quite a few (e.g. 8) of your closures go past on my watchlist and they all looked fine to me, apart from this knife-edge decision. Since it was close, and you hadn't tallied votes or given an explanation, I thought I'd ask. No obligation to give a reason, of course, but when it's close it'll save the talk page messages...Enjoy your food. -Splash 19:52, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
One of the keep votes was made by Wenwen2099 (talk·contribs), whose only edits to date are to that very discussion. Discounting that vote, and implicitly counting the nominator's, we have a 10-4 decision. android79 20:31, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
Ahem, sorry about that. I'll be sure to check next time. Redwolf24 23:54, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
So does it have enough consensus to delete? -Splash 00:04, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
You're way ahead of me... -Splash 00:08, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your note. I have to say I am a bit overwhelmed by the complexity of all this. I also have the hardest time finding out how to do something via help. Well, I am enjoying it. But I can't figure out how to use the Watch Page. With Vaughan's response I was able to click on the Talk page and look to see what things had been commented on. However, there were some apparent notifications (from IPs) and I couldn't figure out where to find them. So I don't if there is a trick I don't know. Thanks.
Rsugden 22:43, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
You click the Watch tab on articles you want to watch, then up in the upper right corner click "My Watchlist" and itll show you the last edit there. You can revert if if its vandalism... etc. Redwolf24 23:54, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Why did you delete the random article entry? Is it frequently vandalised? I think it would be interesting to learn the algorithm and purpose of the Random article option on wikipedia. I also think its origin would be interesting. Is this available in another entry?
That wasn't a random article that was.. randomosity IN an article. If you want to go to a random page on Wikipedia, go to Special:Random. Redwolf24 23:54, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't understand what you wrote (I can be kind of dim). What does the randomosity in an article mean? and I am still wondering why the entry for Random article is a "Protected deleted page"? Also thank you for telling me about Special:Random, but how is this different from the Random article option on the navigation section? Also who is Rambot? Thanks in advance.
The page was unencyclopedic, it was like "OH SHIT THE SITH IS COMING". The page is a protected deleted page because it was deleted three times and I knew if I didnt protect it it would have been recreated. The Special:Random and the Navigation random are the same thing. Rambot is a bot, maintained by User:Ram-Man. I think that its the oldest bot on wikipedia. Redwolf24 00:19, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf24, thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia. You may not remember it, since it was about two weeks ago. Anyway, thanks for making me feel welcome. BTW, if you're a transwiki guru, you might take a look at a transwiki I started. See Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Do_no_take_a_bath_in_Jordan,_Gordon!. I'm not 100% sure I'm doing it right. DavidConrad 00:28, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Alright... as for the links that are broken, just remove them. By the way you may want to make a user page... Redwolf24 00:34, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
I believe you are being impersonated by a troll, User:R℮dwolf24. This would not be the first time this has happened. -JCarriker 02:32, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
x.x what do I do to get these guys... Ah well no worries. Redwolf24 02:38, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment about my talk page, Redwolf. ;-) Also, just so you know, your impersonator tried to cause you a problem here [9] with an insult that he signed as coming from you. SlimVirgin(talk) 02:47, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah that was what I was apologizing for... My troll needs to go to spelling school. Redwolf24 02:51, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
A subject that I understand a wolf taking interest in. :-) I have left comments on the relevant talk page (alas, I'm afraid you won't like them much -- let me know if you think I'm being unreasonable). A policy proposal, if you seriously want it made effective, needs several things. It should be linked to Wikipedia:Policy thinktank (that may be a category thing now...haven't proposed anything in ages). It should be announced that it is available for discussion in as many public ways as you can think of (I'd say the village pump and the mailing list are best...probably WP:AN too). Set a time (say, 1 month?) that is left for discussion only (that is, voting will not start until at least <insert date here>). Once discussion has reached some kind of consensus, establish a clear voting schedule (what possible votes may be cast -- yes, no, neutral, for example -- what each type of vote means in real terms, how long voting will last, who is eligible to vote, whether or not the question may be altered once votign is underway, etc.). Alternatively, if discussion seems generally to favor the idea (but it's not clear that there's enough consensus to make it enforceable policy), it may simply linger as Wikipedia:Semi-policy, in other words, a principle that's a very good idea that a lot of people like, but which for one reason or another isn't fully policy. This was all no doubt very confusing, and I'll answer any other question you have whenever you like. :-) All my best, Jwrosenzweig 07:29, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Well if we always agreed, I'd be accused of being the puppet master next! :O Redwolf24 22:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi I am new to Wiki. I posted a picture here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vampires.jpg) and used the tag, "This work is copyrighted, and used with permission. The terms of the permission do not include third party use. It is believed that the uses made here are likely to be fair use for most United States reusers of the work but this is a decision reusers must make for themselves based on their own circumstances. Permission granted by Wang Wei, the owner of image. E-mail Wang Wei at blizzard@wangwei-art.com for further information." A user DreamGuy says this is a copyright violation. First the owner who I know, Wang Wei, says it is fine where it is. I have an e-mail giving permission to have it in Wikipedia. Further, it is used as a promotional on his web page so it would even qualify as fair use even if not used is a free encyclopedia such as this. Can you let me know if I am in the wrong or not. If not can your protect the page with the correct tag. If I am wrong let me know so I can remove it. Thanks --Evmore 07:50, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
I believe that the owner can't just say its alright at Wikipedia, he has to actually say its in the Public Domain. Redwolf24 22:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
So are you saying it's a copyright violation? The owner clearly allows it so it isn't a violation. The question really is if it is a violation of Wiki policy? Why even have the tag {{PermissionAndFairUse|copyright}} if you can't use it?
Somethings you can never show at wiki... such as lyrics. I think a picture of a vampire kit is allowable however... I'll check on it. Redwolf24 22:14, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Per the instructions on the upload page: "Please do not upload files under a "non-commercial use only" or "copyrighted, used by permission" licence. Such files will be deleted." <---That's from the Copyright infringement page. Wang Wei has to release it into the public domain for it to show here. Sorry, Redwolf24 22:16, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your vote of support on my recent RfA. I was quite surprised by the amount of support I received, and wish to extend my thanks to you for taking the time to support my nomination for adminship. -- Longhair | Talk 12:05, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
As long as that thank you message wasnt copied and pasted Im fine :) Redwolf24 22:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome message! I hope you don't mind, but I borrowed some of the formatting from your user page for my own :) Happy wiki'ing! Mushin 16:59, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
No problem, I love to share as does almost every other wiki user! Redwolf24 22:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
As far as 12.182.192.28 (talk·contribs) goes, I would have made this latest block for a year. They've never produced anything but vandalism, and clearly several shorter blocks didn't wise them up. Noel(talk) 17:16, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
PS: I don't usually check other User_talk: pages (so that I don't have to monitor a whole long list of User_Talk: pages - one for each person with whom I am having a "conversation"), so please leave any messages for me on my talk page (above); if you leave a message for me here I probably will not see it. I know not everyone uses this style (they would rather keep all the text of a thread in one place), but I simply can't monitor all the User_talk: pages I leave messages on. Thanks!
Well theyre currently unblocked and they haven't done anything since, so I am fine :) Redwolf24 22:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Hmm. I thought I saw (when I looked at the block list) that they were still blocked (by you last 1-week block). I see now that it's gone, though - perhaps when I cleared my duplicate block, it cleared yours too. I have blocked them again. Noel(talk) 18:10, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm trying to submit the page for David Harrington to VfD, but it came up as PageName instead.... I then recalled your "welcome to wiki" note on my talk board and thought perhaps you could gimme a hand fixing my new guy mistake.
Thanks for the links and information -I went back and entered the four tildes on the page I <think> you were referring to.
If you follow my contributions you'll see I'm a theatre buff, with a great deal of knowledge of musical theatre history. I am fascinated by the whole wiki thing -what a wonderful opportunity for people to share their knowledge and expertise!
Remember to sign pages with the four tildes... Only talk pages! Like this one. And when voting. DON'T sign on article pages. Redwolf24 02:59, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm trying to get my username changed. Its taking a long time, but I just wanted you to know, that that's what I'm doing. Wikipedia Username 02:58, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Changing to what? Redwolf24 02:59, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm trying to get it changed to Nihilistic Plunger. Wikipedia Username 03:01, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Although I am sure it was just a form message, thank you for it. I am fairly new to use this resource but I hope to contribute in any field in which I have some knowledge.
I also find your personal page very well made. Would it be all right to copy and paste part of it to help me start to create my own? I am not yet familiar with the code tags used here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smoove K (talk • contribs)
You're welcome. If you need help you know where to find me. Plus remember to sign with ~~~~ on talk pages. It changes to your username and date. Redwolf24 03:43, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I saw your welcome back message; thanks, I'm glad to be back. Faculty meetings are boring, and I'm glad they are over for now. -- Essjay · Talk 06:42, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I added that in the hope that the vandals might stop leaving "You're so gay" messages on the page. As I've said elsewhere, calling me gay is stating a fact, and if you want to contribute facts, then go edit an article. I'll check out the category, and you should check out Wikipedia talk:Welcoming committee#Overenthusiatic welcomers -- Essjay · Talk 08:01, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the greeting -- and the reminder to delve deeper into the help articles. So far I've just gone over them quickly and kept my two edits simple.
The one thing I missed at first was opening an account and having the username listed on the history page. LarryB
I uploaded this image a while ago thinking it met the fair use rules - however, now that I've been reading the pedantic responses to other images on FAC I'm not so sure. I didn't really find anything on the guidelines in reference to someone's (a famous person's) picture... also if a site says (c) whatever at the bottom does that proclude the site from wikipedia images? Also, what if I just nabbed the picture from the person's site?
Sorry for the incessant questions :) --RN 08:36, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Since Red's out (poor guy, he has to sleep sometime) I'm going to answer this one. If the site says (c) then you cannot use the image at all (for any purpose, including Wikipedia) without the copyright owner's permission. There are certain exeptions in copyright law, but as for Wikipedia, we no longer allow fair use or conditional images. If the image is not released to the public domain or licensed under the GFDL, then it should not be uploaded here.
Taking the picture from a person's site does not change anything; even if the site bears no copyright notice, the image is still copyrighted. With regard to the US (assuming you are using sources covered by US copyright law) every creation whether written, photographic, music, whatever is automatically copyrighted to the creator when it is created. There is no requirement at all that any type of action be taken to enforce the copyright; it automatically exists and everyone but the owner is prohibited from using the creation without the creator's permission. The only way an image is safe to use is if it is specifically released into the public domain or under the GFDL. Without the specific words "this image is released into the public domain" or "this image is released under the terms of the GFDL" or something very similar, the image is covered under copyright and use of the image without permission is a violation of the law.
The best policy is, if you are at all unsure, don't upload it. -- Essjay · Talk 13:10, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
Uh, are you sure about the fair-use thing not allowed? AFAIK that applies to the commons only, as 99% of the new images I see are fair use (is there a way to display them other than uploading them?). Also, if the site doesn't mention the copyright, does that mean we can use them (some for a conference etc.)? This is complicated :\ --RN 22:50, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Essjay, I think his photo is alright, as its not art or anything... Redwolf24 22:52, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure there was a decision not to allow fairuse items any longer, because they cannot be used by some types of organizations that might desire to use Wikipedia (I think it came down from Jimbo, the idea was "nothing that can't be given away to everyone"). As for whether the site mentions anything about copyright, let me reiterate: Copyright notice is not required. Unless the image is explicitly released, it is under copyright, and its use is prohibited by copyright law (with the exception of fair use, which as I've said, I don't believe we are currently allowing). The copyright owner is under no obligation whatsoever, of any kind, in any manner to give notice of copyright. It is the responsibility of the user (the potential infringer, as it were) to ensure the copyright status of an image. Copyright is automatic, it requires nothing more than taking the picture, and must be explicitly released. My concern isn't with one particular image, but with the broader understanding that every image has an automatic copyright, and that copyright exists whether it is acknowledged by the owner or not, unless specifically released. -- Essjay · Talk 00:42, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
I quite enjoy vandalism. One of the techniques which I am surprised has not been stopped is using the sock puppet technique. Several users have used this and it seems to have worked well. May the vandalism continue...
It may well continue, but I've blocked Mr. Lucas indefinitely. Mackensen(talk) 20:15, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Hm, We may have another Michael on our hands... (though at least Michael's a good guy now as Mike Garcia) If it gets too bad we can get David Gerard to use his check user ability and clear it up as we did with Michael. Redwolf24 21:18, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I'll stop my wave of vandalism. I know it must be hard work constantly reverting the vandalism. I guess I just get bored always working on the usual pages and like to have a little fun. I suppose the many other vandals will have to fill this position for now. By the way, can you tell me what the supposed worst case of vandalism was? I consider my main responsibility on here to keep the star wars articles in order. I even revert the vandalism to these pages. Its just that certain pages that I really have a dislike for (George W. Bush), I feel need their fair share of vandalism from time to time. Sorry for all the troubles. Adamwankenobi 03:31, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Right. Fine, but keep on mind you're on thin ice and we have sockpuppet checkers. Thanks, Redwolf24 03:33, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Whoa, nothing ambiguous about that exchange. Not that there was really any doubt. Thanks for alerting me to it. Antandrus (talk) 03:47, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I understand. However, the section in question is about the issue of civil rights, not Bush's appointments. Painting the bush administration as one that is unusually inclusive of homosexuals is horribly misleading. Please add an addendum/change to the sentence so that the sentiment is not so easily miscontrued, yet does not influence the POV of the article. I appear unable to satisfactorily do so myself, and do not want to be in danger of violating any 3RR rules. (preceding unsigned comment bySdauson )
I don't know if it really misleads... but perhaps I will try an addendum. Redwolf24 22:32, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Better, but... my beef was with the big deal it makes out of the fact that Bush appointed an openly gay man to a government position. However, there are numerous reasons why this is not a big deal. Firstly, a President makes thousands of appointments during his tenure. Secondly, presidents before him (Clinton) have appointed gay people in much larger numbers. And third, it should be noted that he is really one of the first republican presidents with even the opporunity to appoint gay men. The last time a Republican was in office was 1992, when tolerance and acceptance of the homosexual community was at a very different stage than it is today. Bush is almost certainly not the first Republican to appoint someone who was gay, but is the first to appoint someone who is OPENLY gay. Openly gay politicians were a lot harder to come by in the late 80s and early 90s, and Bush's Republican predecessors shouldn't be faulted for that. Do you see what I'm trying to say, and how the sentiment in the article as it stands now is misleading? Sdauson 22:43, 3 August 2005 (UTC) (sorry for forgetting to sign the first one)
Well don't you think thats a bit like Lyndon Johnson appointing Thurgood Marshall as the first black supreme court judge? It was in 1967, near the end of the Civil Rights Movement, so before then he wouldn't of had a chance of appointing a black judge. It shouldn't be made a big deal... My point is the fact he appointed someone openly gay should be acknowledged as perhaps it means that his party may be taking the first step (there's always a first step) towards accepting gays. And yes they'll change eventually, much like Democrats gave up on the idea of slavery that they supported for so long. Redwolf24 22:49, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
That's just it... the statement masquerades as an indication of Bush 'taking the first step' towards embracing the homosexual population. Yet he has personally and vehemently denied to provide other forms of recognition to the GLBTQ population. Just read some of the links that are cited in the edits I made, they ALL speak terribly of his record and his views, and they ALL indicate that Bush's appointment is merely a token move to appease the Log Cabin Republicans, of which the first gay appointee was a member. Sdauson 22:55, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
So the gay was a log cabin one, did you expect him to appoint someone overly liberal? I mean that would be a bit like Bill Clinton appointing Rush Limbaugh wouldn't it? Its perfectly reasonable to try to please your own voters and every president has appointed more of their own party than of the other. Redwolf24 22:59, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I wasn't trying to note that he was a conservative, just that he was a member of a republican campaign financer that has butted heads with the rest of the party over the past over issues of homosexuality. Whether conservative or liberal, the issue of "tokenism" still stands. How is it that Bush deserves praise (which is what the sentence seems to imply) for appointing *one* gay man, when Clinton appointed 150? The fact that he's the first Republican to appoint a gay man is no more significant than would be the first Hyundai to have anti-lock brakes. Mercedes did it first, that was the real break through. Sdauson 00:56, 4 August 2005 (UTC) (something didn't show up right in sig)
BTW, someone has removed your edit from the page. The sentence now stands just as it did before. Sdauson 13:48, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps it's best to omit it entirely. If people have a problem with that, I will take it to the talk page. Sdauson 14:43, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
When you close a Vfd nom, please place the {{vfd top}}/{{vt}} at the top, above the heading, so things can render properly. Thanks, ABCD✉ 23:31, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I've been doing that now. Redwolf24 23:32, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, that's not entirely true. A no consensus is not a "keep as is". Anyone can redirect anything at any time. There were a substantial number of "merge and redirect" or just "redirect" votes, and that's generally a good compromise, particularly when the deletes outnumber the keeps, as they do here. A mere 5 keep votes out of 15 may prevent deletion, but it certainly does not make the article untouchable, and allows for a merge/redirect. If you like, we can try to open up a discussion and involve other parties. -R. fiend 00:08, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Ah well. Sorry I just found it odd as I just left a notice on the talk page and when I went to take off the VfD notice I went to some other page... Redwolf24 00:11, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I realized right after I did the redirect that I must have done it seconds after you closed it (coincidence; I assure you I haven't been circling over it like some sort of vulture). Anyway, are you steadfastly opposed to redirection (perhaps with a bit of merging. I admit, as she was already substantially mentioned in the article I didn't bother with a merge, but as there was no deletion it could be done later, if necessary). The problem with VfD is there's no official policy on merging after no consensus is reached. This is something I've been thinking about trying to address, what with all the talk of changing VfD. -R. fiend 00:29, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
No I don't oppose redirection. I think merging with the real world would probably be good. But you just had it as a redirect which didn't make too much sense as there was no info from the article there. Go ahead and merge now if you feel. :) Redwolf24 00:31, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I'll probably end up smerging. -R. fiend 00:52, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Best word ever created for wikipedia ;) Redwolf24 00:56, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi again. Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/MarioandLuigi looks like a no consensus, so default to keep (e.g. 6d, 4m or r). You redirected it which is ok since you can do that in your capacity as a WP:BOLD editor. But you give the decision as delete and redirect. The usual meaning of that is that you have deleted the article (i.e. removed its revision history) and then recreated a new article with the same name as a redirect. In fact, what you did here was just turn it into a redirect without merge. Which did you intend? -Splash 00:48, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry also that was my first day. I've gotten better ;) I redirected. It was also stated in the VfD that all the info there is found somewhere else, so a merge is useless and I never mentioned anything about merging. As for deleting, sorry about that. But keep it as is now. Redwolf24 00:52, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Ok, that sounds good. (Oh, I wasn't looking for deletion, there's clearly no consensus, and I think the title alone justifies not keeping it standalone!) Unusually, I'm finding very little to do on the 26th list, how is VfD so up to date all of a sudden?! -Splash 00:56, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I've been working on it I guess. We were really falling behind! Redwolf24 00:57, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
You closed the discussion on Xoxohth. Within an hour or so, the article returned. I have tagged it G4, can you delete it? EvilPhoenixtalk 02:39, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
I KNEW, KNEW, KNEW it would be back but I was relectunt to protect it. I'll do so now :) Redwolf24 02:41, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Well done. Congrats on your new mop, btw. EvilPhoenixtalk 04:52, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
I announced that if offered adminship, I will accept it. I just had many people ask me to become one, so, why not. However, I will not do a self-nom, though. Zscout370(Sound Off) 03:50, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Other than being markedly similarly named, no. I chuckled the first time I saw the name though. I think Deathphoenix might be participating in the Harry Potter WikiProject with me, I seem to recall running into him around there, but I know I've seen the name around. Why do you ask? EvilPhoenixtalk 08:03, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
I was checking your edit count and it said almost 4000. I was gonna say hey congrats you have almost as much as me and your 1000th was only like 2 weeks ago so I was like HOLY CRAP! But then I saw your Evil, not death. Your 1500th is coming up :) Redwolf24 08:05, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Yes I am indeed Evil, but not Death, nor Evil Death, 1000 was a month ago, I just added 1500 to my User page, and also noted your adjustment to my Babel thingy, which I came by to say thanks for. Now I have that spiffy little language thing that all the old farts have, so I'm one more step closer to that typical looking user page everyone has. Huzzah. Huzzah. EvilPhoenixtalk 09:57, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
Red, can you define "Huzzah. Huzzah." for this old fart? -- Essjay · Talk 10:04, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
Huzzah=Yay. Plus Evil, I made your page not have three tables next to eachother and the text begins right after the table! It was awful looking! Mer, Redwolf24 20:21, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
how are you? --FMLhime at pt 14:58, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey FML!! Just yesterday I was gonna go drop you a note to see if you were still with us nice to see you are. I'm good myself. Been working on any articles? Redwolf24 20:21, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Hello! Well, in EN.WP I don't working, but at PT.WP yes. I want to know what you think about "fair use". And... Tell me anything about the EN.WP. What's up here? bye! thanks. --FMLhime at pt 04:28, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Well I've been using and . As for Fair Use I love it and I feel the world would be a better place if all images were public domain... at least, photographs should be! Anyways I think User:Jimmy Wales, the founder of all wiki's, may be getting rid of all fair use images... which would suck anyways, nice to see you again! Redwolf24 04:42, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Thank's for using Take a look at pt:Wikipedia:Sorrisos and get others ideas! I only don't put here (in EN.WP) because I'm new here and don't know how the people here receive a new stuff. — and, about fair use, I don't know... I fell missing of logos in PT.WP. Only for it... Other pics, Commons have very hot cool pics, don't? thanks for see you again, and, if possible, answer in my page for I receive the "have message for you" bye! see you --FMLhime at pt 08:42, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I love the and templates. But remember, Be Bold! I enjoy these templates ;) Yeah I'll drop you a note. Redwolf24 14:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I have created a bio-stub for the historian John K. Mahon. I found some really good information in an In-Memoriam article on the Organization of American Historians (OAH) web site, and have drafted a request for use. However, I am not clear on who holds the copyright on the material. Does it belong to the OAH or Mahon's Son/Grandson, who drafted the piece?
You closed this as a delete, but I think you deleted the target of the redirect. The article as listed on VfD still exists. The article you deleted was created by a move during the VfD, so obviously both can be deleted. By the way, Devolution (biology) which you closed is on WP:VfU, though not challenging your closure (and not put there by me!)-Splash 17:53, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
K, taken care of. Redwolf24 20:21, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I hereby award you the Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar for welcoming new users and being a really kind user. Thanks for your kindness and courtesy on Wikipedia! — Stevey7788 (talk) 23:14, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I saw your note on Essjay's page. I read the paragraph. I read the arguments. I typed half of my long comment to keep it, stopped, and left. I realized I don't know where I stand. I think it should be kept, but not in those words and not in the place. As is, it comes off as nothing more than to soften Bush's image on homosexuals. I don't think he is a 'big-homo-hater' as he was claimed to be at one point in the discussion. Bush just has a strict and narrow definition of the word 'marriage.' The paragraph is NPOV, up until that last line. I think it was conveniently placed there to create a last word proving Bush isn't a homophobe. The paragraph breaks down to this:
Oppostion to gay marriage (+1 homophobic point)
Supports civil unions and equal rights (-1, equality point)
Endorsed amendment banning gay marriage (+1)
Leaving issue up to states (-1, proving he isn't a totalitarian oppressing homosexuals)
So far, the magic number is 0. Now, factor in the final statement:
Repeats opposition to marriage (+1)
Appointed homosexual (-1)
Note regarding he isn't the first to do so (-1)
We are left with a -1, a value symbolizing that the article is pushing towards making him seem more gay friendly. The line that he wasn't the first to do so appears as his free ticket into the 'cool Prez club,' a club full of fair and just Presidents.
To make my wacky and long story short :P, I believe the part about him appointing a gay man is nothing more than a red herring and should be relocated to another part of the article, possibly under Major Appointees. And I would add this to the actual debate if I have half of clue of what I just tried to explain. x_x Ryan 05:46, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
Putting it under major appointees seems as if it may be making more out of it... Anyways I think, just leave it as it is. Also, I am Lance. Foo'! Redwolf24 05:50, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm no good when it comes to political debates. Wait... you're Lance? In that case, I don't have to share. You're all mine! :K Ryan 07:04, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
Dear Redwolf24,
You stole Redwolf's name.
Essjay's new name is Uncle Pedo.
You are an outstanding administrator.
Sincerely, Ryan 09:56, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Redwolf! Could you delete [11] for me? We discussed it here Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Autism and it looks like the copyright isn't that viable for right now (its not used anywhere and there's a replacement for it). Thanks --Ryan NortonT | @ | C 07:23, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Got it. -- Essjay · Talk 09:05, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
Remember to open every table and close it (with the /) I.E. . Redwolf24 21:24, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Something like the "new message" thing at the top of your talk page. --WikiY 21:53, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
<div style="align: center; padding: 1em; border: solid 2px black; background-color: lightblue;">
'''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Redwolf24&action=edit§ion=new Please click here to leave me a new message.]'''</div>
Just use that code, change whatever you have to. Redwolf24 21:55, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Have you introduced yourself yet to administrator User:RedWolf? Sorry, I know, I come in out of the blue with these weird things, but it's this kind of strangeness I love. Anyway, if you haven't, RedWolf is a good editor and worth meeting even without the delightful name coincidence. :-) I'm hoping you've already met and that there's an amusing conversation somewhere for you to point me towards, but if not, don't worry about replying. I had several excellent and bizarre conversations with User:Solipsist on his talk page when he first arrived, pondering whether or not I was a figment of his imagination. And yes, I do occasionally do productive work around here. :-) I'll go off and do some now. Happy welcoming, and best regards as always, Jwrosenzweig 22:47, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
I once gave him a barnstar, though he never replied. Anyways sorry, got no interesting convos to point you towards, but try the bottom of User talk:Essjay. Redwolf24 23:04, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Ahhh. My friendly neighborhood admin. I have a question. How many times should I warn a vandal? S/he is deffinatly not in good faith. Howabout1Talk to me! 02:39, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
varies from admin to admin. Such admins as Kat use all the {{Test}} templates. As for me if I see they've been warned before I'll give em a short block. Also their speed can be a factor. Redwolf24 02:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
You should also consider the severity of the vandalism.. A bunch of "he he"/ "ha ha"'s aren't really destructive, unless like Redwolf24 said, if they are doing a slew of them. But if they are really disruptive and/or obscene in nature, I would do at least {{test3}} before blocking, assuming they keep vandalising. ∞Who?¿? 02:45, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I like using regular text as it varies from time to time. Anyway red, check out User:4.250.78.18. It is serious vandalism. Howabout1Talk to me! 02:47, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Blocked for two days time. By the way what I just do is trust my instinct... But never block someone who's never been warned at all unless per se they are WoW... Redwolf24 02:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
You can normally kill off vandals who do the following without warning them: Obscene image vandals, George W. Bush vandals, Snape Kills Dumbledore vandals... Redwolf24 02:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
{{endspoiler}}
Hehe, yea those pesky harry potter vandals are bad :) ∞Who?¿? 02:59, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I would if I could. You have now replaced Hadal as my go-to-admin-who-I-use-because-I-have-had-three-RfA's-and-still-need-to-ask-an-admin-for-help-in-admin-duties. Howabout1Talk to me! 03:18, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Glad to hear. As for the vandals I killed them off. By the way, I'll be glad to nominate you once September dawns. Redwolf24 03:26, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
That would be great. But sadly I feel that I cannot accept any nomination for six months. My last two have been so stressful I'm not sure if I'd accept even then. I'll just stick to complaning for six months. Having "wolf24" at the end of your name is now punishable by law. I herby sentance you to six months of being Howabout1's mop until I get nominated. :P Howabout1Talk to me! 03:31, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Doh! If you can't do the time don't do the crime I guess... *changes name to User:Larry Sanger* Redwolf24 03:33, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
My ass! If I'm gonna change languages itll be RojoLupo24. *eats freedom fries* :P Redwolf24 03:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Hehe. I'll refrain from commenting on that one, well except for this, granted this is more of a statement, and a run-on sentence, than a comment. (Remembering freedom is not cheap.) D'oh!, I commented.. damnit. :) ∞Who?¿? 03:45, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Well cmon we only call them French Fries because of the illiteration. If I'm not mistaken the Italians invented them :O Redwolf24 03:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
How does a conversation starting with how to warn vandals turn into where french fries are from? Howabout1Talk to me! 03:51, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
I'm hungry, aren't you hungry? We have too many wrong names for food, we'll never get them right. Like pizza isn't necessarily Italian pizza but we call it that, oh yea and the now controversial "good ole American apple pie". There just saying people, get over it, geez. The one I can never get over is hamburger. Does that mean its made from people from Hamburg? ∞Who?¿? 03:54, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Red what the crap is this? And who, actually, I think it does, or at least some do. See hamburger.Howabout1Talk to me! 04:00, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Wouldn't know Who. *eats frankfurter* and as for you Howabout, I felt like leaving something random, so I did. Redwolf24 04:01, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
You're a citizen of a country you've never been to!?! Howabout1Talk to me! 04:07, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Country, citizen, Who?, huh? So you mean *frankfurter* like Frankenfurter? :) Yea, that was pretty arodnm. ∞Who?¿? 04:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I think he meant a frankfurter like a hot dog. Apparently Red here is a citizen of Brazil, a place he has never been. Howabout1Talk to me! 04:22, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Wow someone bothered to read my userpage. Redwolf24 04:24, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I read it awhile back, but I have a secret, which I don't share openly, which is relevant to not knowing. So i have an excuse, phbbt (supposed to be the sound of sticking tongue out and blowing. yea that doesn't sound good either.. hmm) ∞Who?¿? 04:30, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
No comment. <.< Redwolf24 04:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
EEEEK! Thanks for reverting. Redwolf24 03:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I did not revert, someone told me in the Wikipedia IRC what happened. Zscout370(Sound Off) 03:57, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Do me a favor and link me to the Wikipedia IRC... Redwolf24 03:59, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Put this as your server: irc.freenode.net, then put #wikipedia as your channel. I am using mIRC to get on the IRC channel. Zscout370(Sound Off) 04:02, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
The flaw in impostors is that they generally do things like call a person "a mean bully that is mentally retarded". For some reason that just gives it away. -- Cyrius|✎ 04:07, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Ha, thankfully my impostors lately have all... well.. they should probably try acting as I do and THEN try to kill my reputation with a barrage of insults. Also maybe redirect their page to mine... Ya know I'd make a fine troll >xD Redwolf24 04:22, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Well its not imposter related. Aww, you destroyed my moment ;) ∞Who?¿? 04:43, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Oh to be clear, i was talking about Zscout370's RFA. ∞Who?¿? 04:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
The worse thing is, the imposter has the same IP as me! I had to wait for a day to edit pages.--Exir KamalabadiCriticism is welcomed! 04:19, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
EXIR! If you are accidentally blocked because of another user, email one of us and we will unblock you. My addresses and IM information are on my talk page. -- Essjay · Talk 04:21, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
Hi Mattwolf, yeah, log-out problem solved, thank you.
How do I access the native-English-speaker symbol that you have on your page?
Someone has inserted a 'category' on my page, which I don't mind; but when I hit the link, there are thousands of them. Is there a list of categories that are more likely to apply to a personal page?
Re: seeking copyright permission for a photo: is it enough to receive an email from the owner giving his/her permission? The copyright information is voluminous, and looks as though you need a specialised degree in it to cope. :-) Tony 05:43, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I'll do the english native for you myself. As for the category, I don't know too much about user cats. As for the owner sending pemission, we sadly don't allow that anymore just find a Public Domain version of whatever. Redwolf24 14:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
The Crackpot Mouse: The mouse on the left has been genetically modified to detect hotheadedness, political spin, and crackpottery. He will eat you if you fail to edit with humility, care, and impartiality. Otherwise, he is quite pleasant. Note that the mouse on the right is a trained ninja mouse, tasked to protect newcomers from being bitten.
Ah, nothing like a wave of guilt first thing in the morning. I'll use subst: from now on, lest you actually proceed to type F--- OFF. Then my army of radioactive albino squirrels will be waiting to devour your soul. ^_^ Cheers, Sango123 14:36, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
*protects your message in case someone DOES do that* Redwolf24 14:37, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm stationing my crackpot mouse here at Red's page; if Sango's army of radioactive albino squirrels attempts to attack, they will be eaten by the crackpot mouse or beaten up by the ninja mouse. Nobody messes with my WikiBuddy. ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 16:03, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Ooh-ooh, looks like I'm already getting into playground fights with my comments on the Hawaiian Independence article. Seriously, though, I don't understand why that article exists, so short and incomplete, and separate from the Hawaii, History of Hawaii, and Hawaiian sovereignty pages. I mean, why have an article titled "Hawaiian Independence" (why is the second word in the title capitalized, by the way?) unless one is willing to give the idea a fair hearing, and not just reaffirm conventional U.S. POV? Sloppy, not up to Wikipedia standards. Dilemma. Oh well.
IslandGyrl · TalkIslandGyrl 14:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I know what Mahalo means... though I'm not sure how...... As for Hawaiian Independence, that should probably be Merged. I'll take a look at it. Redwolf24 15:03, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Well actually it looks too long to merge. But I will move to Hawaiian Independence Movement, thats why its capitalized. Redwolf24 15:05, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
No problem, now make yourself a user page! By the way, I have a friend named Zanthreeia who goes by Zanny, is Zanthreeia your name too? Seems like an uncommon name... Redwolf24 23:32, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Hitler actually outlawed vegetarian organizations (in 1933), so how in the world could he be considered one? He had some dietary restrictions ONLY BECAUSE of his longstanding gastrointestinal problems, but these restrictions did NOT make him vegetarian. Fritz Redlich documented some of his favorite dishes as sausages, liver dumplings, and game. The chef Dione Lucas, who worked at a hotel in Hamburg, recalled often preparing Hitler's favorite dish, stuffed squab. His personal chef, Willy Kannenberg, also remarked that Hitler loved sausages and caviar. The propaganda regarding Hitler's alleged asceticism included the obvious lies that he abstained from drinking and women too.
Anti-vegetarians (yes, there are some out there who evidently have nothing better to do) claim Hitler was veggie and get a big kick out of proclaiming this as some sort of victory for them. (Obviously, even if he had been veggie it would be meaningless in terms of moral comparison.)
Mary Chipman
2 things:
1) I don't remember calling Hitler a vegetarian.
2) I have dark brown hair. So did Hitler. Therefore, brownhaired people suck ;)
Oh and
3) Remember to sign with ~~~~ after your comment. The wikisoftware changes it to your screen name and date. this is necissary on talk pages.
Hey Redwolf, just wondering if I missed the template or something, I had some small formatting problems with Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Gavin Shoesmith, and I was wondering if you could help, thanks!Karmafist 02:16, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Looks like its fine... Redwolf24 03:28, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Are you ever not on wiki? Do you not have a life like me? I am almost constantly here, but not always editing. You do edit a lot, although, some of your edits *kelly martin cough cough* haven't been productive. Howabout1Talk to me! 02:27, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I spend most of my life here, but I got some classes starting in a few weeks. Zscout370(Sound Off) 02:28, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey all my edits are productive, but when I get bored I have fun. Redwolf24 03:29, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Me too. As some of you may have guessed, I'm 12. So mostly I've been wasting my summer break here. Goin' into 7th grade. w00t! Howabout1Talk to me! 02:30, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
D'oh. I forgot. Do you mind if I add another task to your "wolf24" punishment? I want to help with the VfD backlog, but obviously can't delete. I was thinking about deciding and closing VfD's, keeping and redirecting some, then giving you a list of deletes for you to do. Howabout1Talk to me! 02:32, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
I was thinking of that this evening, something like a designated closer (you do all the legwork, we just have to click "delete") but the deletion policy says non-admins can't close "delete" votes for any reason. -- Essjay · Talk 03:00, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
Darn. I could propose someting, but the deletion policy's kinda set in stone. I could a policy giving non-admins this power, but that would get shot down. Let me know if you have any idea of what I could do. Howabout1Talk to me! 03:09, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
I read the policy, and where does it say non-admins can't close? Howabout1Talk to me! 03:14, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
I'm entering Highschool so I gotta really step it up, so I won't be here too much during the school year weekdays. Redwolf24 03:29, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Just dropped by to maintain tradition and say: 4400! -- Essjay · Talk 08:39, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
Aye you passed me again. Ah well, been at family reunions and with friends but I'll catch up... Redwolf24 08:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Can you leave me a message on my talk page so I can test my new CSS? -- Essjay · Talk 09:46, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
I marked you as out, since you haven't edited in four hours. Also, have to tell you, I hate that orange bar of death spoof on your userpage! -- Essjay · Talk 12:57, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
What orange bar of death? Do you mean the orange bar of death on MY talk page? If you don't like that, I'll remove it.--Exir KamalabadiCriticism is welcomed! 15:03, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
No, no, the one on Red's. Up at the top. -- Essjay · Talk 15:31, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
Teehee. Enjoy the Black Sabbath article? Redwolf24 21:11, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
You have defeated me this time, AceOfAllTrades, but I'll be back!
By the way, I'm glad someone is making use of my admin nomination box. Enjoy! ;) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 13:16, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I even got it so its subst:pagename. So I can just nominate someone, slap them with that template, and run ;-) Redwolf24 21:11, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting my RfA. I will do my best to serve the Wikipedia community as an administrator. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 20:26, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Thanks for the wonderful support! I'm doing all my "thank yous" right now... :-)
Finally you thank me ;) Redwolf24 21:11, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Go to Microsoft - if you click edit on "Antitrust problems" or any of the sections after it, it edits the section AFTER the one you want to edit, and if you click edit on "External Links" then you get a blank edit box and if you hit save it
it to the end of the article! It might have something to do with the embedded HTML comments I'm using but I'm not sure. --Ryan NortonT | @ | C 05:12, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Crap, sorry I forgot to respond Ryan. I saw that bug, the counter must be off as you'll see in the URL it'll say edit§ion=30 or whatever... That's the only time I've seen that happen. If its still happening, report it to wikisoftware developer, Tim Starling. Until then just edit the entire thing rather than sections. Redwolf24 08:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
No problem - I put a message on Tim's talk message shortly after you responded --Ryan NortonT | @ | C 03:31, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
I really want to say that it was "Take On Me" by A-ha. I can't quite remember. I actually downloaded a copy of the clip from the episode, lemme see if I can find it. MicahMN | Talk 23:57, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Have no mention of downloading on my page, the Feds are watching me. <.< Redwolf24 23:59, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
I actually think it is OK (fair use) to have that 30 second clip online. The whole episode, most likely not. MicahMN | Talk 00:03, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
ah. I thought you wre getting the whole episode. Redwolf24 00:07, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Nope, and I can point you to an iFilm version if you want (it is a 49 second clip). MicahMN | Talk 00:10, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
I thought over 30 was illegal... Redwolf24 00:11, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
I got a clip, it's a-ha's Take On Me. -- Cyrius|✎ 01:18, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks you two! Redwolf24 01:45, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Add this to User:Redwolf24/monobook.js. Copy it from the edit box, since the formatting is correct there. -- Essjay · Talk 04:08, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
function add_block_tab(){
var c1 = document.getElementById('column-one');
var tabs = document.getElementById('p-cactions').getElementsByTagName('ul')[0];
// use the "edit this page" tab to get already-tidied url
var editlk = document.getElementById('ca-edit').getElementsByTagName('a')[0].href;
// cut everything up to "title=" from the start and everything past "&action=edit" from the end
editlk = editlk.substring(editlk.indexOf('title=') + 6, editlk.lastIndexOf('&action=edit'));
editlk = editlk.substring(editlk.indexOf(':') + 1);
var slloc = editlk.indexOf('/');
if(slloc > 0) editlk = editlk.substring(0, slloc);
// add "block" tab
addlilink(tabs, '/wiki/Special:Blockip?faketarget=' + editlk, 'block', '');
// add "blocklog" tab
addlilink(tabs, '/wiki/Special:Log/block?page=User:' + editlk, 'blocklog', '');
}
Not working :( Redwolf24 04:45, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
I know; I asked another user for help. I'll let you know as soon as I get it to work. -- Essjay · Talk 04:59, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
Thank for the barnstar! I'm moving it to my user page. I hope you meant funny as in "ha ha", not "strange" :) Grutness...wha? 05:48, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
In the HoHo funny. Redwolf24 05:49, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I'm Essjay. Red is on vacation and asked me to answer questions for him.
I am the 'best ever IP user without an account', as you called me with much appreciated Canadian flair.
Actually, he's American (US), Canadian, and Brazillian!
While I DO consider creating an account, I would first like to clear up one remaining concern : once I have created one, do I have to make all further contributions using it, or can I still choose to make some contributions anonymously, or create a second account, if that is technically better?
You should only use one account at a time. If you choose later to use a new account, you can do so by having your account renamed. Using multiple accounts is prohibited by Wikipedia:Sockpuppet and may result in the secondary accounts being blocked. This is because some users use multiple accounts in order to sway votes (i.e., they create ten accounts which each vote their way, hoping to skew the results thier way).
I have already experienced that not every Wikipedian is as objective and broad-minded as I try to be, a few even abusive vandals (the price we pay for such an open system, I know) so I don't want to open the flood-gates for pointless bickering when contributing on more controversial matters, which yet should not be avoided in an encyclopaedia.
Yes, vandalism is a problem, and some users are less mature than others. However, the Wikipedia community in general is skeptical of edits by IP addresses. (Since most vandalism comes from IPs.) By signing in, you avoid having every edit scrutinized (not to suggest that some won't be, but you are less likely to have them all scrutinized) and you gain a higher threshold of "assume good faith." (i.e, We are more likely to do a wholesale revert of content added by an IP if we suspect it is bad faith; we are far more likely to leave content and ask for sources from a registered user.)
By the way, would me contributions under my present anonymous IP (it doesn't seem to have been used be anyone else, save an oversight) the appear under the account pseudonym, either automatically or optionally?
No. Reassignment of contributions was once performed, but is no longer. The only way contributions are reassigned is if they are from one account to another account (as described above). Ip to account moves are no longer performed.
If you can reassure me in this matter, all that separates me from life as an account holder is coming up with a pen-name.
I hope you'll decide to join us in the land of the logged in. Logging in also conveys certian benefits.
As I read you are an administrator, maybe you can also answer or foreward questions and suggestions of a more general, technical nature, such as the following.
I'm an admin too, so I'll keep answering.
Naturally I fully understand if for practical reasons it is not realistic to do anything about these. But wouldn't we be happy puppies (well you a RedCub, I suppose) if we'ld had helped make the Wiki-system even more attractive?
We all try our best!
-Would it be possibly to include an automatic spelling checker in the Edit and Preview modes?
The IMDb (on film and TV) does, and it seems to work perfectly. This could avoid lots of unnecessary errors and reedits.
This has been suggested before, and the developers have informed us that it is not a possiblity for a reason I cannot remember at the moment.
-As clicking the labels of the various pages concerning an article can be rather slow in response, I imagine because the servers are somewhat overcharged, it might be nice to avoid some idle History-visits by mentioning the date (possibly even the user) of the latest edit on the clickable page label.
I doubt it's server overload; I never have any delay unless I'm using dial-up. Listing the last user to edit might be a useful feature, and if you have any javascript experience, you can program the software to do this automatically by editing your monobook.js settings (only for logged in users). If you don't have javascript experience, there are several knowledgeable users and a fledgling WikiProject that can help you do this.
-This may be the most tricky one. On the all to frequent occasions the Wikipedia server disconnects me (and this shuts down all my open Internet connections, even on other sites) I find that not only the edits I was working on can get lost (not all, the debugging options sometimes prevents this), even previously executed and displayed changes can then fail to get entered in my User Contributions record.
My guess is that it is your ISP disconnecting you, as there is no way for our page to affect your internet connection. This is a common problem with dial-up service; if you have dial-up, perhaps you might want to investigate the wonders of DSL/Broadband.
-While I am personally at doubt if it makes sense to maintain the strict separation between Wikipedia and Wiktionary which in our virtual medium is not required by physical restrictions as in the printed equivalents, rather then simply have appropriate type sections under one lemma, as long as we do I can only suggest to coordinate the two systematically.
Thus it would be good to have an automatic link whenever the other has an article of the same name.
And the Search function could also ideally list results from both, separate or mixed.
Because Wikipedia & Wiktionary are separate sites, they do not have common search (although you could probably establish this using a search engine like Google.) Templates already exist to link to other Wikimedia projects that have related articles, see Wikipedia:How to link to Wikimedia projects.
I hope this helps. If you have other questions, feel free to post them here, and Red or I will answer them. (His page serves as a kind of "community picnic," and I frequently slip in to answer questions.) -- Essjay · Talk 04:40, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome a week or two ago. The links were very helpful, they're perfect for giving new users like myself a much better idea of how wikipedia operates and therefore the confidence to get stuck in with editing. Keep up the good work. --FlooK 00:11, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for voting to support my RFA. I've been promoted, and I promise to wield the mop with good faith, patience, and fairness... except when I'm exterminating vandals with the M-16 recoilless nuclear Gatling mop. --malathiontalk 07:41, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
If you screw up I'll nail you upside the head with a 2x4 :D Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Need I repeat myself? ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 06:45, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
User:Carnildo was extremely insistant and helpful on the licensing for the images for the Autism page on the FAC (which is a featured article now (my first...), BTW!) and generally so for nearly every featured article request... I looked and at least as of a month ago does not appear to be an admin and isn't the admin list... he has nearly 5000 edits, and according to his contribution list has been here since january 2004. I'd nominate but then I doubt my word would carry much weight since I've only been here a few weeks... --Ryan NortonT | @ | C 03:39, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Hye Redwolf, if you have time, wouldn't mind some advice. Looking at Test_(student_assessment), it is not written from a NPOV at all. I'm going to try to change it to make it more balanced. In looking at it, I notice parts are also written from very much an American POV. Can you guide me to policy on this? Know I've seen something somewhere, just can't find it.
I'll check it now. Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Please take a look at rohingya arcticle some of the admin staff are trying to mess the article. kindly view all the history and talk page. thanks--Bobjack 09:07, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Red, you are more than welcome to do that. In fact, I urge you to look into this. A parade of sockpuppets are harrassing anyone trying to edit or evey copyedit the article, as if no one else has any right to do so. My user page have been vandalized several times, and abusive comments left. Please take a look at the history of the page, and also the talk page. Thanks. --Ragib 12:51, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Looks like its been taken care of. Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm still listed on your friends page as giving you a flail. Is that all I mean to you??? You just like me for my flail? I have a treatise on you at User:Essjay/WikiFriends and all I get is "he gave me a flail"????????? *whacks again with above-mentioned 2x4* I deserve better! *whack* Better! *whack* Better! *whack*
*Histrionics end here* ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 06:53, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I saw that yesterday and I was like I should update this... but then my internet died. And now I have to hit ze road again. I can't wait to get home! ow my stomach... Redwolf24 14:20, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for updating. I appreciate it greatly. *whacks with 2x4* Don't let it happen again! *grins* ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 18:13, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
But hooves are a bit impractical to use a keyboard, I've changed my nickname to clear up any confusion ; ) Martin - The non-blue non-moose 08:05, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Paws suck too :( Redwolf24 08:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
User:69.205.7.230 has been constantly removing links off Hardy boys pages. I've reverted him about 40 times and warned him a lot, but he doesn't quit. Tell me if I'm wrong in removing them, and I have to go soon, so please block him. Howabout1Talk to me! 16:37, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
Done. Sorry I was sleeping, that's why it took me. Redwolf24 20:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks. Wonder why he was so obsessed with removing them thath he reverted me at every time I reverted him? I got a free ~60 edits to add to my edit count, though. Howabout1Talk to me! 22:58, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, thet was my 2000th edit. W00t!!!! Howabout1Talk to me! 23:03, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
Actually it made me laugh out loud--that person must have thought it was an insult or something. Says more about them than about you! Happy reverting, Antandrus (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
Haha I laughed too. What kind of vandalism is that? >xD Redwolf24 00:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for protect on User:Attackoftheshow... can you also temporarily protect main Attack of the Show article? Is experiencing collateral damage from show announcement directly related to the User page. See [15] and [16] as example. Thanks, Liberty 00:46, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
Alright. Running this all is very tiresome :( Redwolf24 00:48, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I'll bet. (Might have been part of their intention.) Thanks for quick response. Should I remove request from
Please unlock the AOTS Wiki page. Their experiment will be ruined if nobody can actually edit the page. If stuff gets deleted, that's okay; even though it's "lame", it's still the true nature of the beast. Let people do what they will, they'll still be able to plow through the history and see how the experiment "evolved".
Thanks.
It was protected because of Vandalism, such as we'd have to revert past and even lose legitimate ideas. Now that doesn't happen, and any new ideas can be posted on the talk page to be moved to the main page. It will stay protected for now. Redwolf24 01:11, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I now it will be in the history but why did some of my top 6 get deleted in teh discussion? especially the one www.chrisnowak.org/erin , i saw where it says you removed them in history, btw what you are doing for AOTS, and i really never been around the site but it is very cool im creating account right away. THank you if you respond if not i understand.
Sorry I took away that /erin one. I saw it sweet with your comment there. But AOTS would not put it on, there's no content there its just a teen girl's blog. Anyways glad to see you join Wikipedia. Redwolf24 02:28, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
i left a message on the discussion of attach of the show user page, but i wanted to personally message you also. my script was in option 8, it was called "hot coffee revisited" and now it is replaced by some power ranger thing. can you let me repost it or you can repost it?
here is my entry in its entirety.
scene starts with a grainy black and white film showing kevin in an old gangster suit from the 20's. he is sitting in a bar drinking a hard liquor of some sort and is all alone.
kevin: (inner monolouge) If I could go back to that day, I would have given it all up for her.
flashback to "that day", still black and white, not grainy, we see kevin (from a view seeing his face) sitting with a controller in his hand. he is obviosly playing a video game because we seem him grinning, moving his thumbs to press the buttons, and see the glow of the screen on his face.
kevin: (this time he actually speaks) ok, got to kill one more zombie(furiously plays the game) HA! i did it!!!
we then hear from the tv the voice of a female from the game
female: thank you, you saved me from the zombies, i am yours forever.
game voiceovering narrator: press "a" to initiate hot tea minigame
at this moment, we see kevin's thumb about to press with anticipation of the upcoming minigame filled with sex, when suddenly his girlfriend enters the room(in lingerie) and unplugs the video game, making the glow disappear(yes, kevin has a girlfriend in this scene).
kevin: NO!! I was just about to...beat the game(in a questioning voice because he didnt want to say "have sex with a game character)!
girlfriend: come on kevin, dont you want to come to bed?
kevin: (in a huff and upset) ok fine...
back to kevin in the bar, and grainy again.
kevin: (back to inner monologue) i'm so glad i broke up with my girlfriend, because now i can play hot tea all the time. (now speaking) What the hell am i doing here? i have to get back to my woman! here i come hot tea!!
Thanks again for your work on the "User:Attackoftheshow" debacle. I think the show producers owe you thanks, and/or an apology to the Wikipedia community. (Now we can look forward to a million new pages related to video games.) -- 20:28, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Allow me to translate that for any onlookers. It says: dood, you know an advanced level of 1337 too? w00t! you are teh roxorz! Redwolf24 20:33, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
Yep, I had to get that out of my system. (I can see the style of 1337 on your page actually differs a bit from mine). Jaxl | talk 20:52, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I know there's multiple ways to use each letter and I toggle between them. So I use your alphabet as well don't worry :P .-3|>vv01ph24 03:17, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Oh, the headache! These blasted kids! -- Essjay · Talk 03:57, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
I see you're using my Article list philosophy. I'm touched ;) Redwolf24 21:36, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
You're a little late, but yes, I have. (in fact, I stole this before you were an admin *phew!*) I don't remember how long ago, but I'm glad you approve. I kept a list of contribs, and then I thought to myself: "Why do I need this?" As great as it is to artificially inflate ones edit count, it's also a bit dumb and amoral. I've been on semi-vacation for a while now, and havn't had the ability to raise edits as I once did. But rest assured, once I return, I'll be bigger than ever. Thanks for the note. -Sunglassesatnight 22:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I likely won't post here often, since my main interest lies in Jack Thompsn and the current situation that I'm sure you know about by now. I am working with multiple peo-ple to expose him on national TV for who he is. If it is ok with you, we would like, if successful, to use your site as a kind of credit; I certainly found out quite a few things I did not previously know.
An entire barn, awarded by Essjay. Who advised me to use mine to store my vandals, you should do the same.
Weird that I just created User:Redwolf24/Vandals like right before you gave that to me... Redwolf24 06:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I know, I saw that and it made me think of it. Anyhow, what are you doing up at this hour of the morning? -- Essjay · Talk 08:28, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
Insomnia is teh sux. Plus this Wikipedians for decency thing is running me ragged, and I accidentally bit MONGO. Redwolf24 08:40, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Just delete it then. That's the consensus. Agriculture 08:41, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I see no policy stating how long it will have to be up, there is already an overwhelming consensus, and the creator of the article in question voted to delete. Delete it so we can all forget about it and get moving. Agriculture 08:44, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Most admins don't want to delete something just hours after it was posted. Plus as for me I can't close it as I voted. Its my own policy to not close what I voted on unless the votes were unanimous. And the vote of the creator isn't worth more than anyone else's sadly, except for at say, VfD's on user pages... Redwolf24 08:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Ah, well you tried at least. Here's to the inevitable and hopefully quick deletion of that damn article. Agriculture 08:52, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
In light of the fact that you're an admin, I'm giving in to your harassment. I'm taking a break from Wikipedia and your POV that I should not participate in discussions, even though I am being civil. You win, go have a parade. Goodbye. Agriculture 07:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
The fact that I'm an admin doesn't mean my POV is worth anymore than yours. We have conflicting POV's and I believe that you hounding every vote different from your own is rather uncivil, picture it this way: you're a campaigner for Bill Clinton in '96 and you're watching the voting booth... and every time someone voted for Dole you would run up to them and list all the pro's of Mr. Clinton. Votes should be left alone and not intimadated. By the way I hope you come back soon as you are a great editor, despite our conflicting points of view. Respectfully, Redwolf24 07:52, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I hardly hounded every voter, as for coming back, doubtful. I am going to lurk for a bit, make sure some articles are fine, then leave entirely. It has come to my attention that the fact that you are an administrator does matter. I have witnessed admins pushing POV several times. In addition, the fact that the article in question was a forum for discussion and facilitating the forming of a consensus yet so many voted against it without even reading the page says something else. Wikipedia isn't about free speech, it's about censoring the wrong kinds of free speech. Wikipedia is not and will likely never be an encyclopedia. It's authority has already been questioned and the current move seems to be an ever increasing tide of vandals, and insertion of hard-core pornography which is defended as "free-speech" despite being possibly unencyclopedic. It would be one thing if dicussion on this topic and what was appropriate were encouraged as Wikipedia suggests they would be. The opposite is true however, and if you decide to try and stick up for free speech and discussion of these issues, moderators evidently harass you until you stop.
Well, as I said, you win, I'm stopping. Agriculture 08:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Your edit summary at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/WikiProject Wikipedians for Decency in regards to my vote placement was uncalled for, admin. In all honesty, I kept getting locked out and I didn't know it mattered where I put my vote at. It is only my second vote on a Vfd. I'm usually too busy writing articles and fighting over NPOV at George W Bush.--MONGO 08:31, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
My apologies MONGO, I see you around so much that I thought you were a veteran. I apologize for that summary now... this whole VfD is causing me some stress, paired up with Agriculture's continued sarcasm. Really, sorry. Sincerely, Redwolf24 08:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Ah more harrassment, FYI, I'm not being sarcastic, you'll note I'm not editing articles anymore, just a few talk pages while I wait on laundry. As I said before you win, and I mean it. I'm leaving for good after making sure a few other articles are stable. Agriculture 08:38, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Your sarcasm would be referring to your delete vote. Redwolf24 08:41, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Of which I am dead serious. I say it officially, I fully believe the reasons stated on my delete vote. Let that article burn. Agriculture 08:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Strong Delete - A forum for discussion of policies or other forms of free speech obviously have no place on Wikipedia. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Agriculture 08:06, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
War is peace, Ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery? That seems more to push an argument rather than your actual point of view. Redwolf24 08:44, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
It's a quote from 1984, and directly tells to my opinion. I am dead serious, Wikipedia isn't a place for all free speech, just the right kinds of free speech. That is my opinion and why I strongly support deletion of the article. Agriculture 08:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I replied to your note at User_talk:Sam_Spade#Wow_this_page_is_confusing_me..., and looked over your user page. We share an interest in music. I collect music, and am approachimg 30,000 mp3's. We like some of the same bands, like Black Sabbath and Jethro Tull. My favorite style is folk metal, but I collect any kind of music I like the sound of, which includes most forms of metal. Maybe we can discuss music sometime, or I can help you w an article. Cheers, ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ 20:03, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Hello, Redwolf! I am glad you did have a good vacation. I was away too, that's why I haven't edited since last Wednesday and answered you about your vacation. -- Mike Garcia | talk 22:17, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
No problem. For whatever reason, RFA voting has gotten vicious lately. "Don't you dare oppose my best friend, or I'll block you!" I can see it coming. ;-) Continue to fight the good fight and give that freedom of speech a good workout. Take care.
P.S. I'm honored to be on your list of friends. Acetic Acid 23:34, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
Please make sure that the Palm Beach Rape and Waitress Sandwich POV troll sections are removed, then protect the article. Thanks.Voice of All(MTG) 02:08, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
Looks like someone took care of it. Redwolf24 06:02, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
i was only an admin very briefly, and i stopped editing wikipedia much at all shortly after, so there wasn't much point me being one. and yes, the six degrees thing was broken shortly after the upgrade, but should be fixed now (if you didn't notice already) :) —kate
Nice to see you. I love six degrees!!! Redwolf24 15:46, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your highest award.. Assuming that's still your highest :) Sorry I didn't thank you earlier, I was really buzy with Wiki than forgot :( <bad Who>. duble dahnku. ∞Who?¿? 10:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Final-ly ;) and yes its still my highest. You and three others own it. Redwolf24 15:46, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
I later corrected a spelling mistake Région (fr) to Región (es) but it hasn't appeared.
Can you help?
TIA,
Chris Dent
If you can leave a message at my page.... you aren't blocked. Its possible that someone blocked one of your IPs if you use AOL but that block should be cleared up by now. Redwolf24 15:46, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Redwolf. I was wondering if I could get your opinion on this VFD: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/US Government Simulator (it's a small government simulation game that claims to have been the first developed). As of right now, the whole thing is a mess (sock puppets, personal attacks, you-name-it-we-got-it). I personally voted merge but changed it to delete after some of the recent (and somewhat violent) comments by that site's users. What do you think? (You don't have to vote; I just want to get someone else's opinion on it). Thanks, Jaxl | talk 19:40, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Update: Actually, it seems to be going pretty well now. It looks like the article is going to be deleted. You can still look at it if you want, but I think it's alright now. Jaxl | talk 23:59, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Good to see its cleared up. Sockpuppets drive me insane to be frank. Redwolf24 00:19, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
I hear you. 7|-|4|\||<5 4 73|-| |)3|_373 \/073. :) Jaxl | talk 00:30, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
/\/0 9.-0813|v| Redwolf24 00:37, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Hello will you please help me out by helping me advertise a screenplay, http://www.scriptbuddy.com/community/?p=4291528833&t=&pg= , I'm really trying to get people to read it, and I'm just asking that you just put the link up on your userpage, so someone'll click on it and read it, then rate it, because my friend really needs it to be rated, so he knows what to do with it. I'm trying to be a good friend so I'm helping him out, so I'm asking you to help me. Also I used to be User:Wikipedia Username if you didn't know. The Fäcist Chicken 03:01, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I forgot the other. *is too lazy* I'm surprised you voted keep :-/ ah well though. I was the first person to vote delete after the nominator and when I voted it was two against one. Now its like 100 to 70 x.x Redwolf24 05:44, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. Essjay started to get a little bit worried about all the mud-slinging lately. He brought it up to Cecropia, who's looking into it. Acetic Acid 21:22, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
If I EVER gave you the impression that I didn't like you, or made you think that I didn't approve of your edits, or if you got the impression from me that I considered your administrative actions improper, I apologize absolutely. I highly value your imput, your contributions and respect your opinion in every instance. Forgive my relatively stern tone at times, my to-the-point approach and my forgetfulness to remember to not push my weight around! I have NO enemies in Wikipedia...none whatsoever...and have always considered your contributions of great value to this endeavour. Most of all, I thank you for the barnstar...something I'm not sure I'm worthy of...and have moved a copy of it to my userpage. Whatever I can do to help, never hesitate to ask.--MONGO 01:03, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
That was nice to read, thanks :) And you do deserve the barnstar, its about time someone has recognized you. Redwolf24 01:10, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf, Im Moe Epsilon. I just dropped you a line to tell you that I like your user page and to let you know that I beat your Wikitest score. You said "I scored a WOPPING 475. Lemme know if you beat that!" right? Well I scored a 1,122. I thought you maybe wanted to know that. LATER. — Moeε
Hello Redwolf24, in the process of putting something up for VFD I accidentally edited the wrong page and I would be grateful if you could delete it please, it can be found here: Editing Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Cool Tapes
Thank you for your time —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derktar (talk • contribs) 22:51, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad someone still watches that thing. :) Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 23:52, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Who, just come to me, it'll be quicker. Unless it says OUT up there. Redwolf24 23:54, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Hehe, I thought about it a few times, but thought that might be bunking the "system". And actually, it did say out when I posted this.. you were hiding, ey. ∞Who?¿? 23:57, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
>xP Someone was bugging me in IRC so to vent I decided to go block someone. So I went down to AIV and killed off an anon ;) Redwolf24 23:59, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
That'll tell em.. uhmm.. I think :-? ∞Who?¿? 00:02, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Haha point is if you catch more, lemme know! Redwolf24 00:02, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Yah, I know, but it's funner to make fun of ya while your making fun or.. yea, I dunno.. but thanks. ;-p ∞Who?¿? 00:04, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Oh, yea, I kinda meant I will in the future. ∞Who?¿? 00:05, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
I didn't sound rude did I? I was kinda just playing around with words, but had to make sure. I will gladly ask for your assistance in the future, thanks for offering. ∞Who?¿? 00:10, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Nah you're fine ;) Redwolf24 00:14, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Glad to see that you joined us. (And I archived my talk page...) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 01:01, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. JRM · Talk 00:45, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
I noticed you've been adding this template to a few articles. For future reference, if you wouldn't mind putting it on talk pages instead, as this is by far the preferred placement according to Wikipedia:Template locations. --Michael Snow 07:00, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
As I did on the noticeboard 2 days ago, I am asking for a precedent that an edit dealing with multiple subjects, both inserting and deleting text, is considered a revert for purposes of the 3RR rule simply because it involves the deletion of some pre-existing text. As I pointed out there, it does not meet the definition of revert stated in the 3RR guideline. I believe you are letting your subjective opinion of me cloud your judgment on the applicable guidelines. And I am still awaiting your explanation of why you believe the insertion of two screens worth of copyrighted text, without an acknowledgment of the direct quotation, cannot fairly be viewed as a copyright violation. When I worked as a teaching assistant (both at the undergraduate and graduate levels), such an uncredited appropriation of text would have been treated as plagiarism resulting in both a failing grade on the written project involved and the initiation of an academic disciplinary review. The level of personal abuse that's been directed at me for pointing out a clear breach of applicable Wikipedia guidelines is ridiculous, and an admin should certainly not engage in it.Monicasdude 17:02, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
You never pointed out what section of the article was copyvio'd. How are we supposed to figure out it was a copyvio if you don't show us how? Sorry for my mean remarks. Toothpaste is a great editor and I guess I was annoyed you accused her of a copyvio. Its also possible someone else who worked on the article had one it. I'm sorry, Redwolf24 22:39, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
I noted the specific sections on the article's talk page. The copyvio guidelines are pretty explicit: "blank the page and replace the text" with the copyvio template. There's no procedure to replace individual sections, as there is for individual images. Monicasdude 20:29, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Trawling my way through today's watchlist, among the apparently hundreds of VfDs you closed, I was wondering about Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/A. F. Gotch. You called a no-consensus. Why was that? My raw count is 7d-3k, but discounting Dottoreso, I'd get 6d-3k, though of course there's the discussion to go with the votes. -Splash 22:16, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Ah! Sorry I didn't notice the vote of Uppland. I mistook it for a comment. I'll tell him to make his vote more clear and delete that article. Redwolf24 22:28, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. Yeah, I missed that vote the first time through, too. -Splash 22:39, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Btw, I noticed you stopped using subst: with your {{vt}} and {{vb}}. It save the server load quite a bit to have those templates subst'd in because of the number of times they're used. -Splash 23:54, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Yes yes I know about the server and templates. I've been copying and pasting {{subst:vt}} '''Delete'''. ~~~~ on pages but I've been typing {{vb}} as I'm feeling rather lazy... Redwolf24 23:57, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
I see you already have a monobook.js, as well as the rollback button of course. But if you filter through my monobook.js I've written a pair of functions that give you buttons for closing VfD debates and dropping a message on the article's talk page. I didn't write myself a delete button, but you can see how to do one easy enough. -Splash 00:05, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
That sounds interesting, maybe I'll try it sometime. However I'm a javascript dumbass and it seems when I copy sections of Java they don't work unless I take the whole script. :-/ Redwolf24 00:08, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Controversial, feh. He penisized my user page. He must be blocked. :) FreplySpang(talk) 22:56, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Normally he just edits Star Wars articles, and well... then he gets sockpuppets to vandalize George W. Bush. But I guess he flipped out >xD Redwolf24 22:58, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, I guess he's back. And no he didn't flip out. That guy was simoultaniously working toward FreplySpang. And no, it wasn't one of my guys, clever though, but gives me a bad name. Adamwankenobi 23:11, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf24, I don't know the situation with Adamwankenobi and Star Wars and GWB. I was mistaken when I thought it was him dropping penis pictures all over my user talk page. Since that was the reason for my block, I've unblocked him. FreplySpang(talk)
Alright. Actually Adam its good to see you haven't touched GWB lately. Redwolf24 23:16, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
I did not flip, I'm merely my same old self! Myself and User:supershag11 are having our little agreements. There is no need whatsoever for you or anyone to get involved in our situation. Adamwankenobi 23:17, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Folk metal is a specific genre of music, including bands like finntroll and Ensiferum. I like these groups, but I tend to use the word in a broader fashion, including all sorts of music that combines the two elements, from Jethro tull to Irish traditional/hardcore fusion bands like the pogues or Dropkick Murphys, as well as a number of other groups (brathanki comes to mind). Also, I tend to like all sorts of music called "folk", "ethnic", or "traditional", particularly old time bluegrass, as well as all sorts of metal (I've been hearing alot of manowar and yngwie malmstein lately). I listen to plenty of other music too, I try to find at least one band per genre that I can appreciate in some way. The hardest for me so far has been pop, but I do like Abba alot, if they count... Let me know if your ever in the mood to discuss types of music or trade band recommendations, its a favorite subject of mine :)
If you look at the history of WP:KATE, it was user:Flcelloguy who assumed Kate was male, not me. Besides, how do you know he/she really is a girl anyway? Maybe it's because I'm from asia, so initially I thought Kate was a japanese name, ie pronounced "kah-tay".
Borisblue 00:46, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Kate is a common female name in most of the world. Sorry I didn't realize you were from Asia. Kate can be short for Katelyn, Kathryn, and many other deviants variants. Redwolf24 00:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Variants or derivatives. You probably don't want to use deviants here. (Refactoring hint: This comment is pedantry and may be removed when acknowledged.) JRM · Talk 00:55, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Haha, that would be a brain fart. I know what deviant means. Mind was elsewhere ;) And no need to remove the comment. Redwolf24 00:58, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi there. When you closed the Branin VfD, your edit summary was, "stupid votes below the bar."[18] I wonder if you wouldn't mind explaining what you meant. Kind regards—Encephalon | ζ 01:47:42, 2005-08-22 (UTC)
Ah. See you know the edit box and how you have to scroll down? well the votes were below that end and there was like three returns so I missed them on the first closing. Redwolf24 01:54, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
I see now. First you did this, by accident. I only asked because your summary can be taken to mean something else, entirely; always good to be careful when writing them, no? :) Regards—Encephalon | ζ 02:03:01, 2005-08-22 (UTC)
Normally I am careful... I didn't expect anyone to read it ;) Redwolf24 02:04, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
A reminder: As per Wikipedia:Deletion process, when you delete articles on VFD, always paste the link to the VFD discussion in the "Reason for deletion" box. It helps other admins like myself to have easy access to those discussions in the deletion log, especially when another user asks about the results, or challenges them on VFU. Thanks. Zzyzx11(Talk) 02:29, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Ah I normally do but as I've said above I was feeling lazy today. Sorry :( Redwolf24 02:32, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
I've been reading Wikipedia articles for a long time now. It was only recently that I found it was fun to edit articles too, so many thanks for the welcome.
I still need to read most of the style rules and editing tutorials, but they are more interesting (to me, at least) than your average Joe Random writer. I'm already a member of the FreeBSD documentation team, so writing quality material is I might say a hobby of mine.
Off to read some of the great reference material you suggested. Have fun :)
Mike here and I want to thank you for running around like a chicken with your head cut off to be friendly. :-) Thanks for pointing out the uncyclopedia feature; I'd hate to have missed it. :-) Mindspillage(spill yours?) 03:51, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
You're statement to EvilMonkey that I "tried to kill" his gallery is completely without truth or merit. I guess it just shows the type of "admin" you are. Agriculture 06:46, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
And your statement about quitting was the same. Redwolf24 06:56, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
You put it on VfD which is why I said that. Redwolf24 06:59, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Ah, trollish to the end I see. No actually, I did not put it up on VfD, [19] cleary shows it was User:AgricuIture, a sockpuppet someone, perhaps you or one of your friends, created to discredit me. Check the IP's, I have no affiliation with that sockpuppet. But you already know that don't you. Do you really wonder why I doubt both your abilities to stay neutral, or to be a responsible admin? Here you are spreading lies about me on EvilMonkey's page and not even bothering to check your facts. Agriculture 07:09, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
How dare you accuse me of bad faith? And how many times have you said 'this is my last edit?' I have no sockpuppets I assure you. When I searched the deleted history of his article I typed Agricu and it brought me there and then I typed the l and it sayd could not be found. I didn't realize it was a troll sock. Sorry for that. Anyways, cease your attacks on me at once. Do I accuse you of puppeting someone at User:Redwolf24/Vandals? No because I am above that. Redwolf24 07:12, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for the accusation of sockpuppetry, but being an admin you have a responsibility to fully check your facts before spreading rumors. I accuse you of irresponsibility if not bad faith. I'll withdraw my accusation of your bad faith, I'm sure you're a decent person. I just don't believe you are capable of being NPOV, or responsible with your privelages as an administrator. As an admin people listen to what you say. By debasing other users without checking your facts you abuse your privelage. If I were sticking around I would initiate an RfC against you because of it. Frankly though I don't care. As for leaving, yes I've edited a few more times because I wanted to wrap up/clear up a few last things last this particular incident. If our conversation is now over, I assure you, you will never see me again. Gone or not though, I would advise you to both take your position more seriously and be more responsible. Agriculture 07:17, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Sad to see you leaving, I say this with full sincerity. Though I doubt your ability to properly fulfill duties as an admin, you are obviously a wonderful editor in other respects. I don't blame you as Wikipedia is not a place I want to be either, but you are a great loss to the project. I'm also sorry if my comments upset you, suggesting you might be a sockpuppet was in bad form. Agriculture 07:25, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
You just got your admin and now you're leaving? I don't know what transpired between you and User:Agriculture but both of you are acting strangely. Pretend I am the arbitrator and I sentence you to a 48 hour wiki break. Stay away from Agriculture's edits, leave him alone, I will tell him the same...just both of you go do your own thing here in this Wiki...if you bump into each other again, ignore each other. I really don't want you to go unless you feel compelled to do so. This project needs good contributors, and we all suffer from our own biases.--MONGO 10:36, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
Changed to wikibreak. There was volleyball with bikiniclad girls and everything. Redwolf24 22:52, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Many people would hate to see you leave, but good luck in your endeavors in real life and Wikipedia. Just note that if you stay gone for more time than is needed, Agent Acorn will hunt you down! Sango123 14:13, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
That's going in my awards archive. Even if it is a threat... Redwolf24 22:52, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Umm I think Wikipedia is something very neat. Because it is an encyclopedia but it can be edited as well which is very interesting. Thank you for welcoming me. See ya soon.
RoboRob 01:45, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Don't go you idiot!!! User:RedWolf is an admin. Your name is not RedWolf24 it is Redwolf24 Agriculture was talking about him, not you. If you go the wiki will suck. Everyone here is leaving because of all the trolls. Don't join them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Howabout1Talk to me! 02:06, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
I am e-mailing you this too.
Ok. Maybe I overreacted, take a week, but do come back soon. Otherwise I will cry. :( Howabout1Talk to me! 02:14, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
It was me he refereed to he mentioned it wrong. RedWolf has never talked to him. Redwolf24 02:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
K. Just trying to say something to make you stay. Everything else still stands. Howabout1Talk to me! 02:19, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
WikiBreaks are necessary. Take a few days off to enjoy the rest of the summer. But please, don't leave permanently! We need you. :) Acetic Acid 02:17, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
;) thanks for the milk! Redwolf24 22:52, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
No problem. Welcome back! Don't you ever run off like that again! Acetic Acid 00:28, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
You had better come back! If not, I'm going to hunt you down and force you to edit! You'll find commandos rapelling down the side of your house with laptops strapped to thier backs. And by the way, I deserved at least a talk page message; an email wouldn't have been too much to ask. Now, get the hell back here! -- Essjay · Talk 02:33, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
I agree! You better come back or I may just have to take back my vote! -- MicahMN | μ 02:51, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Right about when I was going to ask you to welcome a fresh contributor I noticed, you're gone. This sucks a bit. -- Keramida 06:26, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
aww. I'm back now. Redwolf24 22:52, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
User:LucaviX vandalized my user page...I asked him to cease and desist but thought it best to also let some administrators know about it. Just FYI. Thanks. KHM03 09:28, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
That vandalism wasn't particularly vandalism IMO. He just made some comments and even signed them. Feel free to warn him on his talk page not to edit your user page and if he does it again then complain. Redwolf24 22:48, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf! Since the Slippery Jack article was merged with the Toad Patrol article, I have undeleted it and made a redirect. GFDL requires history to be kept so that the author(s) are attributed. BTW, thanks for cleaning out the August 16 VFD listing. Sjakkalle(Check!) 14:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Yes I know of the GFDL and I know it said merge but I didn't merge anything as the section was big enough. If someone else merged before me than yes, I shouldn't have deleted it. Anyways I really appreciate the thanks :) Redwolf24 22:47, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
It is so good to see that you have returned to the Wikifold. You should know that your friends and supporters are far more numerous than you think. Welcome home! EdwinHJ | Talk 23:45, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Haha here was my message to them: "Yeah I was pissed when I typed up that goodbye note but then I realized... My friends outnumber my vandals :)" Thanks for the welcome Edwin :D Redwolf24 23:46, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Most users keep their welcomes there to show how long they've been around, regardless if they know everything about wikipedia. If someone sees a welcome dated in July they're not gonna think you're a newbie. However if you want to remove it feel free..... Redwolf24 23:54, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Notice something :)? --Ryan NortonT | @ | C 00:31, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Nice!!! Congrats Ryan!! Redwolf24 00:32, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! Being this is my first front page article I've been involved in I didn't realize it would get edited so much while being on the front page - they are all (almost all) good edits though, which is really neat! --Ryan NortonT | @ | C 01:41, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad you returned, you are an excellent and trustworthy editor and administrator and the loss of you would have been felt. Derktar 01:39, August 24, 2005 (UTC).
Thanks Derk! :) Redwolf24 01:40, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Mike. Good to see you :) Redwolf24 02:34, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
No problem and I will always be counting on you, Mr. Wolf. Anyway, I left you a message at your list of bands. -- Mike Garcia | talk 04:22, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
I'll take a look at them when I'm done closing some VfD's :) Redwolf24 04:25, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
What on earth happened at the Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Coug_it page? By my count, there were 14 signed (or unsigned but attributed) "Keep" votes, and 12 signed (or attributed) for others. You could call that "no consensus" or "keep", but either way the page should have stayed. I'm stunned and disappointed by your decision to delete the page. If you wouldn't mind explaining yourself, please make your case clear at Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion#Coug_it... --Matt Yeager 04:54, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
(Replied at his talk page). Redwolf24 05:00, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Are you serious? Without so much as a note that there's a 100-edit criteria for a vote to count? If I'd have had any idea that the article was in danger, I would have rallied up some people from the Washington State University editors to vote for it; however, I assumed that the article (which, by the by, I didn't write or even edit prior to its listing on VfD) would easily pass the vote. I think that if you're going to use an arbitrary bar you need to notify people. A lot of people wasted their time voting in vain because you didn't notify them that there was an edit bar. Not to mention that the article itself underwent some serious work during the period of the vote because of that aforementioned apparent lack of consensus. The voting went on for a whole week; couldn't you have said something? --Matt Yeager 05:24, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Most admins have an edit bar. There's no need to note it. And I only saw 2 editors who voted there who would have counted if there was no bar. Redwolf24 05:27, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Thus, when you say 14 to 12, even without the bar it'd be 4 to 3. Which would be a no-consensus. I have an edit bar which is my right as an admin, and most admins do. And if you were gonna rally support from WSU, don't you think someone could've rallied support against? Where are there more people, WSU, or people elsewhere? And to make things clear: I don't know of ANY Administrators who count IP addresses in VfD's. Redwolf24 05:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Does that matter? There shouldn't have been an edit bar without notifying people of it. Without the bar it would be 4:3, no consensus, page KEPT (as you said). If I could have rallied support from WSU... sure, people could have rallied support from elsewhere (although I can't fathom who has a rooting interest in deleting the page--Wikipedia is not paper, after all). Isn't that kind of the point of a vote? I thought the case was settled (at 14-12, a few more votes can't change things), and one or more would-be opponents might have thought so, too. Instead everyone was mislead about the whole thing until it was too late to do anything about it. As a matter of principle, I object to that. --Matt Yeager 05:47, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
The 100 bar is common knowledge. Much like Jimbo is the founder of Wikipedia. We don't just slap YOU BETTER HAVE 100 EDITS on the VfD page cause that'd be pretty out of the blue. Redwolf24 07:42, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
I might say that I count anonymous votes and votes from very new users when I don't think they were cast in bad faith. For example if the only votes are the nomination, and an anonymous voter voting "keep", I usually won't believe that the anon is a sockpuppet of anyone, and if the anon gives a good reason for keeping the article, I take that into account. The VFD header on the main VFD page says that such votes "may" be discounted, not that they "will" be. I use my discretion in such cases. But when I see a hoard of new users and anons like there was on this VFD debate, I ruthlessly discount them. Sjakkalle(Check!) 09:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Apologies for being so slow to comment: time zone differences, I guess. -Splash 13:36, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
i am anggie/f/30/jkt/indonesia, a graduate student. i wonder if u can help me in getting some articles n research findings on euphemism bcs i am not good with internet. so sorry if my english is not so good. tnxs for ur time and attention.
regards,
peachy_anggie@yahoo.com
I'd be willing to help. You said you're looking for euphemism, well what in particular? Theres the wikipedia article on it... I bet there's also a version in the language you speak in another wikipedia... see http://wikipedia.org and find your language there. Redwolf24 18:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
You've deleted Opa!, but did you follow the procedure? On
vfd votings for opa!: delete 3 users, keep 3 users, transwiki 1 user, transwiki or delete 2 users, delete unless expanded 2 users. As I've commented before on dic-def, If you come across an article that is nothing more than a definition, see if there is information you can add that would be appropriate for an encyclopedia.
Please, transfer what was on Opa! to Opa so it could be kept or transwikified properly. Thank you very much.MATIA 14:51, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
It was really not very close - it was like 7 delete, 3 keep and one transwiki which generally ends up on delete in procedure I believe --Ryan NortonT | @ | C 14:59, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Delete if no one cleans up? That's still a delete vote. The VfD consensus was to kill it, and I did :D Redwolf24 18:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
I strongly disagree with that attitude. People left comments after their delete votes, we shouldn't only look on the bold words. And there is a whole category of such words, that should either be kept or moved to wiktionary.MATIA 19:52, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry. I didn't realize it was a little joke. I was assuming it was vandalism. You're unblocked now. Redwolf24 04:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, Jimbo says on his user page that he appreciates that sort of thing, and seems to like it, so... I changed his name to an obvious play on his name... Jumbo Whales!! I mean, if he can be tortured about his beard, it won't hurt to torture him about his name, eh? haha! Adamwankenobi 15:39, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Keep the beard, ya know you wanna ;) Redwolf24 18:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi I am new to Wikipedia and have made a few contributions to various articles, the problem is anything I try to post keeps getting erased by the user Dreamguy. I feel he is targeting me and all I am trying to do is add verifiable information. (preceding unsigned comment byKhaosinfire 18:04 24 August 2005 (UTC))
You are like the 10th user to complain about Dreamguy. He reverts a lot of users, don't take it personal. Just let it go or gather some consensus. Redwolf24 18:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf... you might want to check Khaosinfire's edits... everyone reverts him, because his "verifiable information" is pseudoscience and New Age/occult stuff with no sources but presented as if it were undeniably factual and uncontroversial. I do revert a lot of users who make equally bad edits as him, it's true. It might be a good idea to instruct the newbie on how to make better edits instead of giving statements he can use to further justify his persecution complex. If you aren't part of the solution, you are just contributing to the problem. DreamGuy 19:01, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Just wanted to say hi. And that I apologize for my "sock puppet" vote, earlier. regarding "BestTechie.net". Just trying to help out a friend. LOL That is what I get for not reading up on stuff. We all got caught up in it I'm afraid. Loyalty sometimes over rides common sense.
BTW I was born in Canada too. Hmmm..... I wonder if I have a dual citizenship as well. That be cool. My parents are American though.
Yay!! Glad to see you back. I asked Sango to take over your mop-based duties, so now I have two. Twice the power. :) Howabout1Talk to me! 22:26, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf24! Thanks for coming out to my recent RFA. I'm now an administrator, and I wanted to thank you for your honesty and steadfastness during my candidacy. If you ever need me, feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Happy editing, and I'll see you around the Wiki! --HappyCamper 12:18, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
That was a weird RfA... Redwolf24 18:25, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I dont know if you've seen it or not, but I added Category:Wikipedia user intervention awhile back with some useful templates and links. Nothing special, just some stuff for userblocks and such. ∞Who?¿? 13:44, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks who :) Redwolf24 19:12, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
I saw that you were always willing to help, on the list of admins page, So I picked you out, LOL
Hey, maybe you can help then?
On the page: Pottsville, Pennsylvania There is a template on the right and at location ((Flag (Detail))) There really is no flag for the city of Pottsville, Is there any way to make it disappear from the website?
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
Incidently, this whitespace is what a lot of stuff I try to translate with babelfish comes up as if I'm unlucky Ryan NortonT | @ | C 16:08, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf, could you look in on the bottom of Talk:Holocaust denial? Bdell555 is looking for some admin other than Jpgordon and Jayjg to confirm that simple admins can't mess with article histories. Thanks. :-) TomerTALK 20:02, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
Done :) And thanks for the support vote at my RfA again :) Redwolf24 20:08, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Would you mind telling me why you have deleted this article without consulting me first, especially as it was only created a few days ago? Surely a glance at my userpage would tell you that I am working on this category?
Oh, that wasn't just because it popped up in your watchlist? Fun. Want to have an edit war on template:protected? Should be entertaining. --fvw* 23:51, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
Haha, not now. Busy ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 23:53, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
I know I know but its a funny link still. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:30, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Then again, there's also this. AdamRock 00:33, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
yeah I've seen that and I assumed he named himself after Willy on Wheels originally. However it could also be this dick with wheels. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:35, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
He's referred to himself as a Willys also. AdamRock 00:40, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
Hiya Redwolf24! Thanks for the introduction message. I'm looking forward to sharing my very limited knowledge and somewhat exaggerated editing skills with the 'pedia. Peace. -- Anodyne 26 Aug 2005 2:23 UTC
I do love messages ;) Nice to have you aboard :D Redwolf24 (talk) 01:38, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi! On Talk:Jane_McGonigal is a link to the archived discussion, but the link leads nowhere, and I'm too clueless to find the archived discussion. :-( I tried to fix the link, but my fix was useless. Can you help me? I ask because I voted, which is of course rare for me.--Jimbo Wales 02:47, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Looks like its fixed Ryan NortonT | @ | C 02:54, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
OMG. All Hail Jimbo. *kisses the screen* Howabout1Talk to me! 03:02, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
Don't exaggerate. The man can't even check an article history for move notices. But then, he has his WikiWorshippers to do that for him. :-D JRM · Talk 03:04, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Nah it wasn't the history that was Jimbo's problem it was my typo. And as for wikiworshippers, hey George Washington (co)founded America and so he's a great man to all of us Yankees :) Jimbo's the same with Wikipedia :) Redwolf24 (talk) 03:21, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I hereby decare this to be a site holy to the Catholic Church of Wikipedia because it was here that Almighty Jimbo spoke to us. A basilica must be built immediately! Blessed be Jimbo forever! *genuflects* -- Essjay · Talk 04:40, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
Here's a nice plaque for your basilica, Red. Put it somewhere prominent. Oh, and JRM is excommunicated for blasphemy against the Jimbo. -- Essjay · Talk 05:44, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
You finnaly figured out the sig thing. You could've asked, I didn't wave a wand and get Talk to me! to appear at the end of my sig. ANd thank for the coding. One more thing, ever leave again, and the pictures you see below will be a reality. :) Howabout1Talk to me! 03:13, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
Oh you fucking wouldn't. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:19, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I am fully prepared to hunt down every lemming to get you back. I'll do whatever it takes to keep you here, man. I am also willing to send my little friend after you. Howabout1Talk to me!
He's no vandal! He's an esteemed developer. Oh wait, let me guess, I have my mythology mixed up, right? I wanted a better name than unknown User:Michael so I picked Brion. Feel free to replace by a more appropriate person. If redemption is the issue... Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Mike Garcia may be appropriate. Radiant_>|< 08:41, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
K thats why you confused me. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
No i'll just remove your jerkish comment, maybe i ought to show wales the "offensive" language on this on this page so he can embarrass him self again. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 09:22, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I know you don't suscribe to the all hail Jimbo thing, but you should suscribe to Jimbo-being-able-to-ban-users-for-as-long-as-he-chooses theory. Also why would you link to shock sites, I must side with Jimbo that was rather juvenile. And yes, it was jerkish of me to mention your Sockpuppets. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I cleaned that up, made a few changes, and took out a couple things I thought we'd be better without. I'm removing the "plaque" until I can fix whatever is wrong with it; I'll have it back shortlyl. Finally, presuming you're still around, could you drop in #wikipedia ASAP? -- Essjay · Talk 09:29, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
Plaque fixed and returned. Also, I saw your comments on Boothy's talk page, and I feel it incumbent upon me to remind you:
There are certain Wikipedia users who are unpopular....It is only human to imagine that such users might be fair game....This notion is misguided. It is your responsibility to foster and maintain a positive online community in Wikipedia. Personal attacks against any user - regardless of his/her past behaviour - is contrary to this spirit.
I know you well enough to see this as momentary lapse; get past it and get back to good work. You're a great editor and you believe in making WP a better place.
By the way, we'd still like to see you in #wikipedia. -- Essjay · Talk 09:53, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
I was gone when you said that. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf I need you to protect the article "Feces" a user called "Love Virus" keeps vandalising it over and over without stop. It needs to be protected or else it won't stop. The Fäcist Chicken 12:31, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Looks like its been taken care of. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Great job on the Church. It has been a while since I have been on the article, and it has certainly improved. I liked your prayer for the articles so I added it to my user page. Psy Guy 18:58, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Psy. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I noticed that a few days ago while I was scanning through the old nominations. Maybe I should tone it down a bit. Actually, in my opinion, it's more important to have a large number of Wikipedia namespace edits than article edits, so I will change it. Acetic Acid 20:00, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
You're pathetic. :O Just kidding. Hmmm... I wonder how I would have voted. Acetic Acid 20:05, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
Hello -- I've seen you in the Tern melee in recent days. (sigh)
Anyway. While doing random reading on Wikipedia, I stumbled on evidence that someone has been doing a lot of vanity linking, putting their own sites on Wikipedia pages -- sites that really don't warrant it anyway. Imagine my surprise, though, when I found out that it is someone who is also related to the recent ruckus on the AS page (not Tern, though, and the pages aren't related to AS or autism). I feel a little uncomfortable getting into a possible disagreement with said person, under the circumstances... but I do think the sites need to be removed. I would go to this person's user page and bring it up, but I can't really think of any way this won't turn out ugly, and as I was the one who started the whole AS thing by deleting Tern's link from the AS page last week, I'd rather not start yet another battle among the same group of people. So I haven't yet brought it up.
So I guess I am asking for advice from a more experienced editor in this issue. Any wisdom you can provide would be appreciated. Thanks. ManekiNeko 23:20, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
First things first, gimme at least 3 times they inserted their linkspam and give me the user name. I'll look over it later. Tern's not really controversial. There is no one unblocking him or caving into his demands. He's just making a big deal out of nothing and when he does file the VfD it'll probably be a landslide keep. Tern doesn't have me worried. Now go find me those links for this new guy. 24.16.56.62 23:26, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm not really worried about Tern either. It's just been messy, and chaos is not my preferred state. :) I'll e-mail you the info in a minute or two. Thanks! ManekiNeko 23:39, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, how about that? Tern is gone. I e-mailed you the info on this other issue a few hours ago -- let me know if it didn't show up. Cheers -- ManekiNeko 05:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
I've gone to bed. I'll work on it tomorrow. Redwolf24 (talk) 06:01, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
No rush. Sleep well! ManekiNeko 06:20, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
It seems this VFD has been ongoing for some time and I would ask that you finally close this VFD please, thanks in advance, Derktar 02:44, August 27, 2005 (UTC).
I saw that you redirected Religious to religion; but the vfd votes were to delete religious and merge with religious orders... freestylefrappe 04:52, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
No, the votes were every which way, making it no consensus. I redirected it not as the closing admin but as a regular editor being bold. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:53, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
I'll move it to the wikipedia space as soon as we have drafted and ratified the charter, I have been encouraged by the response but I don't want don't want the boat to get swamped before it's even finished, pardon the colloquialism. I'm assuming your accepting a seat in the provisional government, I should probably ask the others if they accept the position as well. I go back to ETBU Monday- so I'm a little pressed for time. It's 3 am where I'm at so, I'll work on it tommorrow. To use the Biblical phrase, "Let Patience have her perfect work," (Unfortunately what the Bible fails to mention is that Patience is a 400 pound woman, riding a unicycle and dragging an anvil behind her.) Cheers. -JCarriker 08:07, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
(Replied on talk page.) Redwolf24 (talk) 08:10, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
P.S. I'll hold up on adding it to my signature until we do that charter stuff. Redwolf24 (talk) 08:12, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
I should have done that, but I didn't... I just went through batches of 100. But now that you mention it, I will! It can't take that long to load, can it? :) Alphaxτεχ 08:29, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Its like Where's Waldo. Warn me immediately for every Willy, k? /me makes Willy Busters. Wait that sounds like a porn movie... Redwolf24 (talk) 08:31, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I seen your change and self rv. I was actually considering doing the same thing. Just hadnt got around to it yet, power outage and all. I pretty much made all of the other categories, since there was no previous way to really keep track of them easily. I was thinking of making either Category:Wikipedia:Impostor user accounts or Category:Wikipedia:Impostors which would be beneath Category:Wikipedia:Indefinitely blocked users. Unless someone said something specifically to you about it? ∞Who?¿? 20:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Yes I made Category:Wikipedia:Impostors see and I wanted that to be a subcat of indef blocked. But when I went to the cat for whatever reason the only thing there was the template! There was no RedwoIf24 or JImbo Wales or anything. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:33, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Yea when the template gets changed, the articles that are using it need null edits to update them. It will fill up eventually :) ∞Who?¿? 02:26, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed that you also alphabeticised my name. I didn't see the pattern initially. I think I have some ideas, but I'll take things slowly at first just to get a feel for what this group wants to accomplish, and where it would like to be in the future. --HappyCamper 23:19, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Yes I'm working on it a bit as we speak. Put any ideas you have on its talk page for now. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:21, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Talk pages look so ugly with only archives listed. If you feel other wise, you can remove this. Also, look into arguing with, and possibly banning, User:142.177.114.122Howabout1Talk to me! 01:20, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. Nobody attacks our Essjay. :) Howabout1Talk to me! 01:24, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
(wirtten after edit conflict with your responce) Ok. I never really got the difference. Howabout1Talk to me! 01:24, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
Don't say ban. Banning is like... WoW and WiC and Mr. Treason. Its quite serious. I have BLOCKED that IP for attacks on Essjay, Raul, and Uninvited Co. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:23, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
I am almost embarassed to be pointing this out. Please remember, Tern is only one member of the aspie community. I am giving this to you just to illustrate why he should never be unbanned.
Sigh! I hope he doesn't expect to ever be unblocked. I've blocked myself from talking at his talk page, all he does is whine about Wikipedia. Redwolf24 (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
All I can say is that I am very very glad I did not edit under my original account (the one that could be easily traced to my offline identity) when I first edited his additions to the AS page. Besides, ManekiNeko is a much cooler user name... ManekiNeko 21:38, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Haha. Yeah it is :) Redwolf24 (talk) 21:40, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey, sorry I hadn't responded yet, still on my laptop and hadn't done much personal stuff, just Wiki-work. I will give it a good read soon :) ∞Who?¿? 22:49, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Katrina is sounding scary... Redwolf24 (talk) 22:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Yea it was only a category 1 here, but enough to do a ton of damage. I probably wont have power till wednesday, off since thur. ∞Who?¿? 23:48, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
The reference desk...is now split into 4 subdesks. Check out WP:RD and click around. Might also want to check out WP:RD/A. --HappyCamper 12:41, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
are admins allowed to vote in a vfd they close? Ryan NortonT | @ | C 01:25, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
It depends. On clearcut decisions its fine. On narrow decisions, like 2/3 and they close the same way they vote, its inadvisable. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
I just saw this and was a little confused. Thanks for clearing it up :) Ryan NortonT | @ | C 02:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Thats messed up... I mentioned it in IRC and someone's gonna relist it. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:40, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Could you protect Template:WelcomeH1 for me? People keep editing it. I don't modify it often, but I would need you to make occasional changes. Howabout1Talk to me! 03:26, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. I was wondering how to do those, I'm new to VFD, I used to do speedies in the past. I'm glad the India del. sorting was started. I can now participate in it without loading the long list of VFD material. =Nichalp«Talk»= 06:43, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
"slander, libel, or defamation of character is not to be tolerated on Wikipedia; true instances of such writing, that might legitimately expose Wikipedia to legal sanction, should immediately be called to the attention of an administrator and/or the community at large. Disagreements as to the identity of a person, their motivations for a given action, opinions of third parties about them, etc. do not fall under slander, however, and you should not use legal threats as a bludgeon to get your POV enshrined in an article." - official policy
You are violating this policy by deleting requests at speedy deletions that attempt to enforce this policy. You are further engaged in criminal behavior by participating in a coordinated effort with User:Essjay, User:Howabout1, User:Raul654 and User:UninvitedCompany (who made the libel originally) to continue to expose Wikimedia to liability by doing what you can to keep comments or page history in view that is dangerous to Wikimedia and against avowed policy.
Wikimedia and persons libelled thus have grounds for a joint action against you, should this continue.
Yawn. First of all I'm nothing but an account in your eyes, there is no way for you to find EVEN MY IP ADDRESS unless you figure out some way to hijack Tim Starling's password. And besides that no one's taking you seriously as you aren't substantiating any of your claims anyway. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
BTW do you know that you should sign your contribution (wikipedia policy, and probably for legal reasons in our state). Anyway: could you cite with page was speedy and maybe some explication. You accused people without prove it!. And I think you should calm down and relax. Cate 13:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Nice to see you Cate :D Redwolf24 (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Wow, they get wierder every day. I'd block him as he seems to have a similar IP as the last guy if you haven't already. Howabout1Talk to me! 22:30, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
OF COURSE its the same guy. Look its the same three people, plus us two. By the way I hope {{WelcomeH1}} isn't supposed to be your private welcome template, cause if it is then move it to User:Howabout1/Welcome and type {{User:Howabout1/Welcome}} at the newbie's talk pages. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:39, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, ya I knew it is the same guy. You can do that with a user page. I thought it had to be a template. I'll move it User:Howabout1/Welcome. Howabout1Talk to me! 23:08, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Please don't delete the template or else 100 or so users will no longer have a welcome message. Howabout1Talk to me! 23:10, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Redwolf! What's up in the hizzouse?
Sorry. I'll never say that again.
But really, what's up? Since you don't know me well, My name's Roxi, incase you didn't know. Just leavin' you a note, n' sayin' "hi". By the way, you rock. - InfallibleRoxi 10:17 AM, 8/29/05
Haha thanks, I guess ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
That you've now twice removed me from Esperanza without comment? Shem(talk) 23:49, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
I didn't remove you, I put you under general membership. Notice how it says no more members to this category? Redwolf24 (talk) 23:54, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Ah crap! I didn't see that. I was removing my timestamp and I moved you too :( Redwolf24 (talk) 23:56, 29 August 2005 (UTC) (taken from his talk page for clarification)
Hi Redwolf. I'd appreciate your advice on the photo of myself that I just uploaded to my user page (as a test run for uploading other photos). Do I need a copyright tag? User:Tony1Tony 00:22, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Just type {{GFDL}} on it. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:23, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Or if that doesn't work for you, see WP:ICT. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Scratch what I said before. If I knew you then the way I know you now, I would have voted for you without a doubt. That policy only applies to users whom I haven't seen in action. Acetic Acid 06:59, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
I noticed that your user page is a little lacking in the green department, so I figured I'd assist my signing my name. Acetic Acid (talk) 07:45, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
Some fool changed the darn template for VfD and I used it to see if Gordon Cheng was deleted. I thought it was speedied, that was totally unreasonable and undeleted. Now I notice that it was conducted properly - will rectify ASAP. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:36, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I hate when people recreate VfD'd pages :-/ Redwolf24 (talk) 00:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
K I see that now. It was redirected now to a valid article. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
I think the keep vote should probably be reviewed. I don't think anyone would object if you looked at the number of socks who voted in the discussion and reversed the vote.
As it happens the person who removed the VfD tag earlier seems to have come back and reverted the redirect. I'm getting a bad feeling about this and strongly suspect a commercial operation to seed Wikipedia with advertising copy. As a database programmer I'd say the entry is sales talk. If you want more opinion you could raise it on WP:ANI or somewhere. --Tony SidawayTalk 00:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Well then we'll protect the redirect :) Redwolf24 (talk) 00:49, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
*tap* You're it! :-) --HappyCamper 01:13, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
<.< wha? Redwolf24 (talk) 01:14, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm guessing it's a game of tag. You tag someone else, like those little chain mail posts or something? I could be completely wrong tho.... -Sunglassesatnight 02:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
I tagged you before you said thata! Redwolf24 (talk) 02:37, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
I like the subtle incorperation of the esperanza green letter e in your sig. Very clever, sir! I salute you!
-Sunglassesatnight
02:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Aww fudge! But yeah, I've already joined, thank you! First order of buisness on the birthday thing, MAKE A BIRTHDAY CAKE! (we only have a crappy one. I got a wedding cake on mine. this must be changed). Good luck sir. However, I'm not exactly sure who I shall tag. And I take it "tag-backs" are out of the question? -Sunglassesatnight 02:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Of course they are. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Helloo! You seem to know what you're talking about. Perhaps you could let me know about this one. I have been going through checking all the links to [[bass]] because they were pointing at a disambiguation page called Bass. I was making them point either to Bass guitar or to bass (fish) or to Bass (musical term) and so on. You have the idea already. Now I have discovered that someone has made the Bass article into a redirect page to [[bass guitar]]. This is sort of all right, because what used to be 'bass' is now 'bass (disambiguation)'. However, it does mean that all the links I didn't get round to fixing will automatically go to the bass guitar (which may be wrong, i.e. not what the reader wants) instead of to the disambiguation page (which should help them find the page they do want). Am I right to be concerned about this? Brequinda 12:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Sounds like there shouldn't be too many problems. Go to 'what links here' on bass guitar and scan it for pages you think may be referring to the fish. Though I'd bet most of the pages going to bass would mean bass guitar, just because of all the band pages. ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 13:11, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, that was just a silly redirect, Bass is known for so many other things than just Bass guitar, I liked the previous version of [[Bass]] better as the disambig page, so I changed the redirect to point to Bass (musical term) instead. More general of a term, as I doubt everyone searching for Bass will want bass guitar. ∞Who?¿? 18:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Actually, nevermind, I reverted it back to the disambig version, the other new user didn't bother fixing any double-redirects or links, and [[Bass]] is better served as the disambig, seeings it has no specific meaning. ∞Who?¿? 18:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
I didn't use the words or list the article as "patent nonsense". I merely suggested that undergraduates should be wheeled out and shot. Seems sound policy. --Tagishsimon(talk)
(this is a question based on an already resolved dispute about me - and there are no real right answers). So, a 3rd party was inserting a mock vote over the "votes for deletion" to "articles for deletion" page on the VfD talk page. An administrator removes the section with a personal attack on the 3rd party claiming that votes are not allowed. Afterwards, the protagonist puts the mock vote comments back, claiming that it is inappropriate to remove comments from talk pages without good reason. Then an edit war ensues between our protagonist and the admin. Finally our protagonist gets blocked, with the admin claiming a violation of WP:POINT.
I don't see the POINT violation. I don't see evidence of the anon disrupting anything from the evidence you have shown me. The admin should not have blocked a user they were in an edit war with, this is strictly forbidden. I would unblock the anon and probably warn the admin. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:03, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Interesting :). Well, if you are curious to know what happened - the protagonist (which was me) was unblocked, and the involved parties (Admin was Kim Bruning) decided to move the mock vote to the user space of the 3rd party that created it, possibly leaving a link on the VfD talk page. Ryan NortonT | @ | C 03:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Well duh the protaginist was you. That was a given. :P Redwolf24 (talk) 03:08, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Since I jumped on you over it, I'm leaving you a note. I'm going on a little Wikibreak. You know I've slowed down recently, and I'm not sure what I want the future of my contributing to be. For the time being, I'm going to pull back. You may see me doing a few little things, answering talk page posts, etc., but if you need me, send me an email or catch me on MSN. I'm not putting up a wikibreak notice on my page because I don't want a flood of "please don't leave" notices to sort through. Anyhow, see you around. -- Essjay · Talk 04:32, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
K, seems fair. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
I would like to delete the last comment I made on a talk page (I mean including history and not including this one). I'm not sure how or whether I can do it. Is it possible?
Unfortunately, we can't. The only people who are technically able to are admins, such as myself, and this is normally discouraged. Plus even if I deleted a comment of mine from the history another admin would be able to view it. The only times we fully remove things, i.e. with developers, is for... well one example would be an anon who posted the FULL BOOK VERBATUM of Harry Potter book 6. Anyways the point is, no, you cannot remove it from the history. Just pray that they never read it ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:28, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for answering that question (and thanks to Nao for asking it) as I had been wondering about deleting history for a while. By the way, it's "verbatim". I take it the etiquette on editing talk page posts with typos are to leave them alone, correct? (Thanks to the trusty google toolbar's spelling check, one does not see nearly as many typos and mispellings as they might otherwise) -Sunglassesatnight
I know its verbatim, that was a typo. And you have permission to fix typos all that you please at this page. It makes me appear to be smarter ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:54, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you sir, you as well (and that goes to everyone, on every one of my posts). I am a horrible speller, and as long as you dont rub it in, I'll be endlessly thankful. Good day, good sir. -Sunglassesatnight 22:56, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
No problem man! I just picked Martin C. Strong's Great Rock Discography (7th ed.) and so will be updating all sorts of data in the Albums section. --NielsenGW 01:35, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
Great! :D Redwolf24 (talk) 01:36, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for both the wish and your support for my RfA. It's probably WP:BEARDKEEP that you know me from, since I had never heard of those other two things until now (I'm a member of WP:BEARDDELETE though, so maybe I should leave a personal attack here :-P ). Esperanza sounds interesting though... maybe I'll join it later on... - ulayiti(talk)(my RfA) 02:30, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
noes!1 bearderly love!onehunderedeleven Anywho, Esperanza is a great association I'd recommend you look into :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:35, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Sure, The wikiproject is meant to be a collaboration. The History of Alaska is good, worthy of FA, but it was started on Aug-30 and submitted on Sep-1. Toothpaste has done really well but a very large chunk of the additions has come from herself. If I'm given assurances from a resident of Alaska that there are no problems with the history, I'll withdraw my objection. =Nichalp«Talk»= 05:06, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
Well also notice you are the first to object, wouldn't an Alaskan object to the FAC? Toothpaste even sourced all her facts. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:10, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf, can you direct me to the appropriate tutorial? Also, can I put in a plea for some kind of search mechanism for Wiki special, how-to pages? It's often hard to find what you want. Tony 05:11, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia. And for the special pages, just go to Special:Specialpages, and you should be able to find what you want. Every page possible is there, cept for a few which you can't access as you're not an Admin, Bureaucrat, or Developer. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:14, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia, which you are more than welcome to do.
In other words, don't touch my user page. --WikiFan04Talk 18:14, 2 Sep 2005 (CDT)
I don't want to interfere, but stumbled across this. A number of other VfD's were added to it, but not deleted with it. Should they have been? Or should there VfD tages be removed? I've no interest either way, just tiding up. --Doc(?) 17:28, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Sorry if I seem to be pulling you up, but shouldn't Platinumpresto have been deleted per VfD. I'd fix it, but it takes an admin. --Doc(?) 20:41, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
You can delete it if you want, it gets messed up if I put subst: in front of it. I bunch of people can just have Template:WelcomeH1 on their talk page. Howabout1Talk to me! 21:04, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
What's your program, Sir? You just posted to the Toby discussion in such a way as to make clear that you (a) looked at the demo and (c) proceeded immediately to comment without (b) reading any of the discussion inbetween. If you think that's a lot of work, it is -- and I don't think anybody not willing to put in the work should have much of a voice. You might at least have the courtesy to begin your remarks with, "Well, I didn't actually bother to understand this proposal, but..."
You decided to inflame public opinion by zapping another's user page before I had even finished constructing Zap. As I can see by that user's comments here, that was not "okay".
It's difficult enough to build useful tools and explain them to people without having editors shitting on them -- without thought, without care. I'm sure you'd be happy if I just went on my way and left Wikipedia all to you and your buddies as your own private Sandbox. Congratulations! You're starting to bring me around to your point of view. — Xiong熊talk* 23:33, 2005 September 3 (UTC)
I have talked to WikiFan04 in the IRC room about that whole thing. It was originally intended as a joke I thought he would get, but his reaction was negative.
But that's not the point of all this. Whenever someone disagrees with something you put up you always say 'stop shitting on it and try to help us with it' But why should we help you with something that we don't even agree with. Democrats shouldn't make fun of Bush, no... they should contribute to his campaign. And I have seen you accuse Dan of a personal attack on you at the VfD, and now you're saying here "well, I didn't actually bother to understand this proposal, but...". Redwolf24 (talk) 23:39, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
User:Cryptic, at least judging by what I saw thought he was an Admin... but he's not (there seem to be a lot of good candidates lately).
Cryptic has 2700+ edits and I think would make a great admin... but his first edit appears on june 12, so do you think we should nominate him on the 12th :)?
Seems fair, and remember, do NOT say he's been here three months, let people figure that out ;) Oh and by the way, Carnildo NEVER thanked me for nominating him :( Redwolf24 (talk) 03:50, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Don't worry about it red :)..... I'll thank you (thanks!) LOL. Just think of it as making wikipedia a better place :). Ryan NortonT | @ | C 03:58, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
For having most barnstars of any user I know, I, Zscout370, hereby award you The Lots of Barnstars Barnstar. Congratulations! Zscout370(Sound Off) 04:11, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey! I saw you give that same award to Essjay! Tell me, good sir, which one has the most barnstars? Or is this like playing favorites? Anyway, nice award, and congrats to you for getting it (all three of ya's) -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 04:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
I got the same award myself for having 23 awards. Since both of them seem close to my count, I gave it both to them. Zscout370(Sound Off) 04:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm off on an indefinate wikibreak... while you are one of the nicer admins a lot of them are hash.... and a lot of people just seem to come here to push an agenda rather than write an encyclopedia. So I'll see you at another time -- RN
...What?! No! Indefinite... make that a temp break. I've tried to quit before, as you remember, but it was turned into a break. I hope you'll return. Redwolf24 (talk) 20:47, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I got burned out... I won't do it again I promise :). Ryan NortonT | @ | C 23:17, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Told ya, I even left a note at Esperanza, you were our first alert ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 23:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Really? Where? (and oh, I didn't read the page today, I read it over yesterday, decided to mull it over, and then joined today...) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:41, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Yay you got it now. Redwolf24 (talk) 21:44, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Either I'm blind or I still don't see where it says to alphabetize it. :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:45, 4 September 2005 (UTC) (probably blind, but...)
It should be in the hidden text above the listings. Redwolf24 (talk) 21:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh, there :-( (didn't look there, scrolled directly down) Perhaps you should uncomment that? Anyways, I'll be more careful in the future... Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:50, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I put up an article up for deletion. The article for deletion has a redirect going to it. Should I mention the redirect somewhere on the votes for deletion page (in case it gets deleted) so the admin will delete the redirect too? Wikipedianinthehouse 21:50, September 4, 2005 (UTC)
Yes. You should. Redwolf24 (talk) 21:51, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
There was an RfC about a month ago about where the redirect should point; the consensus (that I see, at least) seems to have been that it should redirect to plural of virus or possibly even virus. There is one anonymous editor (154.20.32.131 (talk·contribs)) who insists that it should point to malware, and keeps changing the redirect with the edit summary 'revert malicious edit'.
Since I commented on the RfC, I don't feel comfortable making a definitive call on the issue—at least, not to the point of breaking the 3RR over it. Could you have a look at Talk:Virii and see what you think? TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:01, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Reverted, Protected, Blocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:05, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for checking that out. Does that make us part of the cabal now? TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:15, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
You can pay back the debt by joining Esperanza!Redwolf24 (talk) 23:15, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh no! A quid pro quo! You manipulative devil, you. Fine, I submit. I will join the Friendly Cabal. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
What with the what what now? Karmafist 23:20, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
If i've done something to offend you, please let me know. Otherwise, I don't understand. Karmafist 00:07, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Replied at talk. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:13, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
No prob, things can get pretty testy on here sometimes for no reason, and you're a pretty good admin so I figured it wasn't a vandal thing. If I wasn't wondering what I had done to piss you off though, I would have laughed, I was about to send your comments to BJAODN. Let me know if you're ever giving randomness lessons ;-). Karmafist 00:22, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
It was all a ploy to get that bear award!! Redwolf24 (talk) 00:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf, did you know that Essjay is taking a WikiBreak? Please leave him a message, as I see you two are pretty close. I'm worried about this recent spree of people leaving or taking long WikiBreaks (Kim Bruning, RN, and then Essjay), could we implement the Esperenza any faster? Thanks a lot! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 23:29, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Essjay will be back. He's stressed at POV pushers and legit editors who have no courtesy. He's not GONE. RN is just temp mad, I'd bet money he's coming back. And Kim_Bruning I have no idea, don't know him too well. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:31, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Just wondering...why is it necessary to alphabeticize the names in Esperenza? --HappyCamper 23:49, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Just for the purpose of finding members, much like we alphabetize WP:LA, though I'm sure it'd be interesting to find whos the senior admins. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:55, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Ohhh, If you read it a certain way it sounds like you mean "Who are you to vote neutral" so I didn't know if thats what you meant or not. Another weird thing is that you said you were interested in serial killers at the same time I started reading about them too. Jobe6 01:33, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
That serial killer thing is from when I joined in like April! Redwolf24 (talk) 01:36, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Why did you vandalize WikiFan04's userpage? "Zap!"? freestylefrappe 03:14, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
Hm, I asked him to answer that in IRC but he had to go. I've explained this several times. We were talking about how weird a policy it was and I jokingly zapped his page. He took it too seriously and got mad at me. Note in the past I have 'vandalized' User:AngryParsley and he liked it and gave me a prank star for it. He took it seriously and seemed to have cooled down after I showed him the 38 times my user page has been vandalized. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:26, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Please note any user page I would ever vandalize would be an editor I thought would like the joke, and in WikiFan04's case, I was wrong. Note how I've never protected my user page despite having SysOp, its because sometimes, the vandalism at my user page can be funny. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:28, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Check out this article. I put it up for speedy delete. It strikes me as referring to the "nazipedia" issue a few weeks ago. Thought an admin should be aware. Psy guy(talk) 04:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Taken care of. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:25, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
I have been editing since July 15, how many more months of experience will I need to have a chance at becoming an admin?Voice of All(MTG) 04:35, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
Nominate yourself October 15. Until then use lots of edit summaries and stay away from controversial articles you keep going to. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:37, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Do you mean like GWB and Ted Kennedy or the articles in the Community Portal-Open Tasks that are listed as NPOV that need to be fixed? or both?Voice of All(MTG) 04:48, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
All of the above. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:14, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Why is that soo bad? And what community clean up stuff can I do to help as opposed to randomly foating from article to article?Voice of All(MTG) 05:23, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
I'm just saying people may disagree with you on those articles, and transfer that disagreement to your RfA! Redwolf24 (talk) 05:24, 5 September 2000(UTC)
Did that happen to you? And I still want to know what stuff I can do to help out without generating issues.Voice of All(MTG) 05:31, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I forgot to reply. No it didn't happen me as I didn't get into to many controversial articles until after I won my RfA. Now I wallow in them ;) Yay adminship abuse. Jk though. Redwolf24 (talk) 06:06, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
I notice that you are listed as the deleter of Category:Articles that are too technical, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Category:Articles_that_are_too_technical. This page was not listed on Redirects for Deletion before it was deleted. Your deletion summary does not explain why it was deleted, and one previous user's edit has a nondescriptive edit summary "Nuke.". Why was this redirect deleted? It seems to have been deleted against policy; would you be able to undelete it? Thanks, -- Creidieki 05:36, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Redirects can be CSD'd, and we don't like redirecting across namespaces. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:38, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't understand the abbreviation "CSD"; do you mean speedily deleted? This redirect did not meet any of the requirements for a redirect requiring speedy deletion at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Redirects, so far as I can see. It was also not "across namespaces"; it was in the Category namespace, and it redirected to another page in the Category namespace. I still don't believe that this deletion was done according to policy. -- Creidieki 16:29, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Whoops, I thought it was in te Wikipedia: namespace. It has been undeleted now. And FYI, CSD is the acronym for speedy :) Redwolf24 (talk) 21:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Nah, it was just confusing because the target has the word "Wikipedia" in the title. Okay, cool. Thank you! :-) I know it wasn't your fault that it got marked as Speedy in the first place, and that sort of thing is easy to do. -- Creidieki 21:52, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Why isnt there a Arcane Wiki or WikiArcania or Wiki Esoterica?? that could handdle highly technical subjects??? JoeMele 04:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
Haha ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:27, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
Yeah... Already read most of those. Didn't know about your personal bootcamp though. I'll have to read that sometime tonight, I suppose. Pikhq 06:03:22, 2005-09-05 (UTC)
w00t. Redwolf24 (talk) 06:06, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll look that over and maybe get involved...thanks. Also, you and Ag are probably more alike than either one of you think.--MONGO 10:16, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
It has a message saying as it's source can not be found or verified it will be deleted,
I have tried to work out how to do this but can't, can you help and do it ?
All I can say is I uploaded the image to give a better understanding of Shabti or Ushabti figures and of the Pharaoh Seti-i.
The photo is my own work and the object itself is owned by me, so I have full copyrights to both the image and object, I am quite happy for the image to be public domain and the benefit of all.
Hi there Redwolf. You probably dont know me but I have seen this Esperanza thing and really like it's aims. This week I was searching for a wikipedians for harmony/peace to see if there is anything like that going on, and then I saw your comment on Mongo's page. After the whole Decency Vfd, and Agriculture quitting I felt rather dissapointed in the unkindness of much of wikipedia. But your thing is really great. I feel very strongly that wikipedia can be a friendlier place. Now to the point, am I wanted? (I always ask before joining a project in case I am not welcome) Sorry to bother you. Cheers. Banes 19:00, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Of course you're wanted! Redwolf24 (talk) 21:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
I damn near had a heart attack when I saw that message. :D Thank you so much. It's nice to know that I have some support already, so on October 22, we can do it for real. Take care. Acetic'Acid 19:32, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
Ha you had five supports in a row, then someone found out you've only been here a month ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 21:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Damn Journalist had to open his big mouth. XD Acetic'Acid 22:55, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
let's organize a coup at Esperamza ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:57, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
TINEC - There is no Esperanza Cabal. Acetic'Acid 23:36, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
We are the definition of cabal, except for the evil part, and plus the good part, and plus the anyone can join part. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:38, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Er... I think you inadvertently made history. Acetic'Acid 00:40, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
You closed Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Gordon Cheng as a delete and deleted the article. Ta bu shi da yu restored it with a rather myseterious comment in the history. 20 minutes later he reverted himself to {{deleted page}} (with no edit summary explanation). Unfortunately, he forgot to delete the article again first, so it's sitting there with its history available, but a deletedpage template on it. Since you might have talked to him about it, I wonder if you know what should be done? Oh, thanks for the table thing, btw, I'll do proper thank-yous once the week is up. -Splash 20:38, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
You're welcome for the table, and your RfA is clinched. Yeah TBSDY thought that I speedied it, which is why it was undeleted. But it was at VfD when he thought it was at Pages for Deletion or AfD or something. That's why he reverted. And yes, I will go delete it now and remove it from WP:PP. Thanks again, and if you ever need help as an admin, you know where to find me. :) Redwolf24 (talk) 21:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Rewolf could you take a look at katrinahelp.info/wiki and see if their is a natural location for refugees to post their experiences. Its rather complexs and setting in the South, I'm on the front lines here so I really don't have the time or frankly the patience to sort through this. From what I can tell most of would be very confusing to someone already frustrated. Thanks. -JCarriker 22:05, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
[15:11] <Redwolf24> At that wiki, do people have a place to post their own experiences?
[15:12] <Pak> if you're willing, go ask what you can do
[15:12] * Pissed (n=name@h193.178.140.67.ip.alltel.net) Quit ()
[15:12] <Jellybob> [TabulaRasa]: Right now if you can type *at all* we need you
[15:12] <[TabulaRasa]> pak: just did so.
[15:12] <Pak> good man
[15:12] <pamelajaye> I would think you could make one
[15:12] <Redwolf24> Oi?
[15:12] <mayo> Redwolf24: not that i know of, but i don't see a reason why there couldn't be an area for that
[15:13] <Redwolf24> You should make one
So make an account, draft it up at your user page, and try moving it and creating a section. Be Bold ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:14, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
He was a famous american artist. Google him! I created atub for him and it was promptly deleted by Academic Challenger. Reason? I was the only contributor!! Silly since I just created. Can you reinstate that page cos he is notable and put a stub in there??
thanks JoeMele 04:05, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
The way you wrote it didn't merit an article. I.E. You didn't give any information for him, so that's why it was killed. Recreate it with more info and write {{stub}} on the bottom. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:21, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
OK just that I am not in a place to do something extensive. I was making a place holder. OK. I guess that isnt allowed. OK JoeMele 04:34, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
You apparently blocked 68.199.100.109(talk·contribs·deleted contribs·filter log·WHOIS·RDNS·RBLs·http·block user·block log) per my request back on August 26 on WP:AIV… FYI, this person has come back and is right back at it (subtle hoaxing). Should there be a permablock, since this person seems to reliably have the same IP from their ISP, or should this be taken up with abuse@ISP, or both? -Kwh 05:41, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
When the page called 'List Of Harry Potter Related Websites' was deleted I was on holiday and unable to reach a computer, so I was wondering if you could tell me why the page in question was deleted? Some of the information was originally on Harry Potter Fandom, and I was wondering where the information from the page is now located?
A reply would be greatly aprieciated.
Thanks-Electricmoose- Electrifying 19:42, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
If I deleted it it was only because of an entry at AfD. I don't do speedies anymore and it doesn't sound like a candidate anyway. I believe I did delete that per its consensus at the AfD. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:27, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
I just wanted to make you aware that User:Adamwankenobi has been perm banned for edit warring, vandalism, disruption, as well as incivility, 3rr and a number of other breaches of wikipedia rules and guidelines including breaking an unofficial probation that came with the unblocking of his last indef. block on the promise that he wouldn't do it again. If you have any questions or would like to dispute this block please don't hesitate to leave a note on my talk page. JtkieferT | @ | C ----- 00:46, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
I have no comment. He must hold the record for most indefinite blocks! Redwolf24 (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
You might want to change your welcome message a bit. "Thank you for your contributions" sounds a little funny, considering how many of the new users haven't made any contributions yet :) Kirill Lokshin 03:25, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
Good idea, considering I'm using the new user log. Thanks ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 03:26, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
"(Block log); 03:22 . . Redwolf24 (Talk | block) (blocked "User:Johnwilkesbooth" with an expiry time of indefinite: Shooting Lincoln) " -- Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha!! Antandrus (talk) 03:28, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I was hoping someone would notice ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 03:31, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I stole your code to put the "Click here to leave a message" on my user page. It's really sharp! I guess it's not really stealing if I gave you credit for it and I told you about it, is it? Anyway, thanks! Joe 03:53, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
No problem; take everything you like. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:02, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
I have to sign off now, so can't pursue something I was about to do. Can you have a look at User:The Fish from Florida ? Four edits, four bits of vandalism, the an edit to his user page. Has he actually protected his own page? Gotta go. Cheers Moriori 04:16, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
Will look. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I saw your tagline on the list of administrators... And I need help! Lol!
I have recently created a page on the comic series The New Avengers, and it has been put to a vote to merge into the page for The Avengers comic series.
Some people have a personal dislike to the page, and I think that since they have been around so long, and been building the Avengers page, they are unwilling to see it end, despite the fact that the comic itself has ended and The New Avengers is a different title.
All of the facts that have been presented are in favour of keeping the two pages seperate, but these people who have been around for some time together are all voting together and using that to bully newcomers - even accusing one new member who voted against the merge of being me! While we know each other - we are not the same person!
There is a general concensus on Wikipedia to have individual pages for individual comic series' (The Spider-Man comic series' all have their own individual pages).
I know my New Avengers page is limited at the moment, and I am not the only member to have contributed to it - but I thought the point of Wikipedia was to expand, and as I have said, the only facts that have been brought forward in discussion suggest that The New Avengers is deserving of its own page. I don't want to see my work deleted. Is there anything I can do to stop my work from unjustly becoming just a footnote on another page?
K, I'll try to go over this point by point:
Yes, I am willing to help.
I think I may just support the merge.
Before you think of anything else, try to keep this in mind: Experienced Wikipedians may know more of The Wikipedia rules than you. This is not meant as an insult, or taking sides, I'm just sayig to keep that in mind.
About the person who's not you, but you know them... there's a such thing as Meatpuppets. Meatpuppets are Non-Wikipedians, such as your friends, who come in to vote on polls, often the same as their friend.
Your work wouldn't be deleted, it'd be more of a merge than that, and the New Avengers would redirect, you'd still have credit. Their theory is that the New Avengers page and the Avengers page aren't really that long, so merging would make them look better. Plus there are other Avengers comics merged to the main one, aren't there?
But this is all a content dispute, there's nothing that I can do for you, besides tell you what I have. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:32, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. As it turned out the actual merge was just a deletion of my work until someone else added the information later. Whether it continues to exist remains to be seen.
I'd just like to say that I wouldn't bring in a friend to vote - that's so not like me.. While a new member, she has been contributing to Wikipedia and didn't join solely for the purpose of voting - she wants to do a lot of tidying up of some Farscape pages...
As for the page itself, which was already in excess to the preferred length, (which was the main reason for creating the seperate page) the only Avengers comic covered by the Avengers article was The Avengers(There was an in-brief paragraph on the new comic at the bottom of the page)... And now The New Avengers... The West Coast Avengers comic title has its own page.
While some have argued that the information was irrelevant, it is exactly modelled on the The Young Avengers page, containing just as important information...
I know that reading this, the tone may sound like I'm complaining, but that's not my intent. I just thought I'd tell you how it turned out. -- Avengers fan 22:55, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I was glad to help :) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
I replied to your e-mail. Did you not recieve it? -JCarriker 13:49, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
I saw it. Charter related. I was gonna copy and paste to the ESP page, but didn't. Nice to have you back! Redwolf24 (talk) 01:08, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I thought I'd tell you that I stole the code from your page that creates a link that lets people leave you messages. I put it on my user page. It's really cool, thanks. I guess it's not really stealing if you give credit for it and tell them about it, is it? Joe 19:07, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
You already told me :) Redwolf24 (talk) 01:08, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Illinoisian has been blocked indefinitely by Zoe for trolling, vandalism, etc. Although I tend to support the block, he asked that you be informed. --Scimitarparley 22:38, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Replied at Illinoisian's talk page. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:08, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
You should read about John Wayne Gacy if you liked those killers. He's the guy that dressed up like a clown, killed little boys and put them in a crawlspace under his house.66.115.235.199 22:09, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I've read up on him. A good read too :D Redwolf24 (talk) 03:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey. I noticed that you've been doing Newcomer Patrol today (so have I) on the recent huge surge of registrations.
There's a problem, though, that I don't think you've noticed (and it's annoying the hell out of me, so I'm relieved that I have a chance to bitch about it to someone).
A huge number of these registrations are bogus. They're created by people who have no intention of using them, but just... I dunno, want to fill up the database, maybe? Trying to flood the system in some way?
Think about it. How often does someone register as a user... and then not do anything, not even comment on a page or tinker in the sandbox?
So it vaguely irks me to see someone like you, so well-intentioned, falling for it and leaving them the {{welcome}} message.
What I do, to see if they're real, is (if their userpage is still a redlink) I click on the User Contributions. If they haven't contributed anything in the hours since they registered, I feel safe in concluding that they're just garbage accounts, and I close that window and move on to the next on the list.
It's damn frustrating to think of the dozens of genuine new users going unwelcomed amidst the throng of hundreds of empty accounts. DS 23:37, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Well think of it this way... most of us started out reading pages, right? We may see the login button and decide to register an account. We may not immediatly make edits. However, yes, there are many garbage accounts. But I don't think that good users are going unwelcomed because I'm welcoming other users, notice how I welcome about 15 users a minute? I think it would take five times as long to check the contribs. There is no harm done in welcoming garbage accounts, they could be used one day anyway. Though it is useless, I admit. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf is right; I often register on a wiki I visit for the first time, although I have no immediate intention to edit. I do so for a few reasons, none intending harm: I like to switch to Cologne Blue for performance reasons; I like to reserve my username soonest. If I were to get a welcome message on my return, it would improve my perception of the health of the community of that wiki. — Xiong熊talk* 09:35, 2005 September 11 (UTC)
Thanks for the support on my RfA. I was very pleasantly surprised to see so much support throughout the week. Of all the 77 supportive votes, yours must be among those that means the most to me. We didn't get off to a great start, a fact that was my fault, and I'm both glad and relieved that we seem to have gotten past that. You have indeed been of help to me, and I hope you will help me out in future, too. So please do keep an eye on me and my logs, especially while I'm learning the ropes with the new buttons. Thanks again! -Splash 23:50, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Haha, my first adminly action was pressing rollback to some anti-semetic edit... see when I saw malathion's edit summary it said rv vandalism, and then I saw [Rollback] in boldface, thinking it was a link to some project, so I clicked it... stupid shiny new buttons. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Red, your last few vandalism attempts prove you have no idea what you are doing. Vandalism is an art, my friend; an art that you seem unable to master. Sure, "angry parsely" was a cute little reference, and blanking that guy's userpage was funny until he posted back "you've had your fun" yada yada, but when are you going to get to some SERIOUS trolling, man? The redwolf I know and love torments new users simply because they don't spend 25 hours a day on their computers, and blanks pages, throws tantrums, and makes people hate him. What happened to the Redwolf24 of old? My guess: esperanza has made him soft. Happy editing (and congrats on 7,000! That's a lot of redirects and blanked pages! --kidding) -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 05:00, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
:O Oh noes! must join gnaa and destroy wikipedia111!!11four Redwolf24 (talk) 22:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for moving me up on the list. I didn't even know this list was around, just found it. And not having much net acs for 2 weeks doesn't help with my edit count :( Not that I'm really worried about that, just all the stuff that needs to get done that I help out with. Having Wiki withdraw, and feel like everyone will forget me :) ∞Who?¿? 08:16, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
That was at least two weeks ago :o Redwolf24 (talk) 22:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Yep, I haven't either had power and/or cable (net & tv) since Katrina hit. So I wanted to thank you, even if its a bit late. ∞Who?¿? 00:28, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Aw, nice to have you back. And I was thinking we retry the ol' RfA in October. I'll write up what I'm gonna do in my Sandbox. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:30, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Be sure to put that Sandbox at least 10 feet from any active projects, as it seems to attract a lot of bad joojoo :) ∞Who?¿? 01:05, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
We'll balance out that joojoo with mojo. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:07, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh darn, I keep all my mojo in a jar. Looks good though.. I especially liked the eat more carrots vandal :) I'm not blind, I just can't see. ∞Who?¿? 22:50, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello...Mkmcconn (Mark) and I have been observing some ongoing edit concerns at Biblical scientific foreknowledge. Aside from the fact that the two of us have ZERO interest in the subject, an edit war has been taking place between MickWest and Kdbuffalo (also known as Ken). The page was protected briefly.
It seems to me that Ken's tone has grown increasingly unfriendly toward Mick and, at times, Mark. Both Mark and I have warned him about this. Mick seems to be trying his best, but Ken is close (in my view) to violating civility rules.
If you have the time, do you think you could review some of the discussion there and, if you deem it appropo, see what you can do about Ken's tone and approach to editing? Mark and I aren't sure there's much more we could do.
Thanks for your consideration...KHM03 23:45, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
The only evidence I can present (and I am not an administrator, so I may be way off here) is the discussion on the talk page for the mentioned article. Ken's tone, and accusations. I feel that Mick is being mistreated. Again, I may be wrong, and I'm not asking for any specific actions...just another set of eyes to check it out. A "look see" would be appreciated. KHM03 23:55, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
See their respective talk pages. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:06, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf24, thanks for the notice. I'm trying to be polite to Ken, but it's a little trying. I think I'm done for the day. MickWest 00:10, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I have been hit twice this week, one apparently for no reason[20], and the other by this vandal "Corbeh". The first vandal hit several random pages before attacking mine, and I have no clue as to why. Are admins allowed to block on site like that? I certainly don't mind vandals being banned that quickly, since they obviously have nothing to contribute.Voice of All(talk) 01:49, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
First, the word is not banned, its blocked indef. Banning can only be done by Jimbo or ArbCom. Accounts used solely for vandalism are blocked on sight. Thus, Corbeh is gone. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:09, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I thougth a ban was considered an indefinite block. And if I ever become an admin, is it in policy to block acounts permanently like that? It should be IMO, and the blocked without warning notices on the edit pages should also stay, although vandals seem to get a kick out of removing them.Voice of All(talk) 02:13, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
o.O uh, no. My signature works, just it turns to boldface on this page, like your talk link does at your talk page. Also you notice the signature you made is a red link and the talk links to my user page? o.O Redwolf24 (talk) 02:01, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I just fixed the redwolf link above. Odd, your talk link is just bold unlinked text, my user talk link does work(for me) on this page...Voice of All(talk) 02:04, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
Your talk link doesn't work on your talk page. All wikilinks linking to themselves turn bold. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:07, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Ah I see, thats a pretty nifty feature...sorry.Voice of All(talk) 02:08, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
No problem. By the way, YOUR talk link doesn't work! it links to your user page! go make it User talk:Voice of All(MTG). Redwolf24 (talk) 02:21, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
geeez...now you got my face all red blushed...;). I think I fixed it now. Thanks.Voice of All(talk) 02:29, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
Hooray! :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:38, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Aw, my talk page link doesn't turn bold on my talk page. I feel all alienated and stuff. :( Acetic'Acid 05:44, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
Two reasons for that, first you have your talk BEFORE your user page, which I would recommend switching as its confusing, secondly, the font color is green, so you should get a bold green, whereas we never specified a color so we get bold and black. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:24, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
It's confusing? :( Can't be as confusing as what happens if you click the space between Acetic and Acid. I'd prefer not to change it, but if it's confusing, I will. Acetic'Acid 01:01, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
Nah its fine. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:03, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Maxlor311 might be a sockpuppet of the corbeh. Both have just edited the Bush page with nonesence. This guy came after you blocked the first one. I would keep an eye on him.Voice of All(talk) 02:45, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
Only one edit. Nothing to care about yet. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:49, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I have copyright permission for my entry on Demarest Hall, I live with Enon Avital, the creator of the webpage, it's fine, email him here: dewfather@gmail.com Or sabrina.vargas@gmail.com and khennessey@echo.rutgers.edu who I both work with as Culture Studies leader of Demarest Hall. I'm Brian Zimmerman by the way, I run Culture Studies at Demarest Hall. My email is brizimm@eden.rutgers.edu
Hm, go tell the person who reported the copyvio, not me. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:38, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
It's not as hard as it looks: Build; don't destroy. As Mom used to say, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." Or, "Do as you would be done by."
If we don't feel we can contribute usefully to a discussion, that's fine. We can move on to other stuff. There is no lack of good work to do. We read widely -- very widely indeed; here in this Project, on related wikis, and on dozens of other sites, collaborative and otherwise. If we try hard to stick to this principle, that often means we have nothing to say.
"Being nice" doesn't just mean shouting, "Oh, yeah, that's great!" Often, we can contribute usefully to a page -- policy, article, discussion, or other -- by criticizing it. But we must have something to bring to the table. If something does not work for us, we need to be able to express why it doesn't work, and what would have to be done to make it work. If we don't think something meets an expressed need, we need to tell what we think would meet that need.
It may very well be that we don't agree with the expressed need. That's fine, too. But others do see a need, and are working on a solution. They may not feel all of our needs are important -- and sometimes, they may not even be willing to help us with them. Sorry. But let's hope that they will be permitted to work to meet their needs; and let us meet ours.
Who knows? If we refrain from destroying something that doesn't seem immediately useful to us now, it may change and improve, and eventually grow into something that we do find a need for -- sometime later.
The key here is understanding that the world is full of people, full of needs -- and any two or three of us will only share a very, very small portion of those needs at any given time. But please, let's not go around burning wheelchair ramps today, just because we still have both legs today. Somehow, we all have to live together, and a big part of that is letting other people do the best they can to meet their needs.
Another big part is pitching in and helping others meet their needs -- even if they are not ours. Later, we might find those same people helping us with our needs -- even though they may not feel the same needs we do.
Above all, if we don't think we can help, please, let's not do any harm. Thank You! — Xiong熊talk* 10:37, 2005 September 11 (UTC)
Oh boy, templated... lemme just subst: that... Redwolf24 (talk) 19:31, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I see the points you're trying to get at, but there is one very central policy to Wikipedia. And that policy is consensus. You seem to be saying to put in use every good faith proposal made. Well Xiong, take a look at that category of rejected proposals, do you agree with all of them just because you think some may have a use? By this logic, we should never cast oppose votes. On RfA's, AfD's... just because it may lower someone's self-esteem. I wasn't a fan of the opposes I got at my RfA, however I know they're still needed or Wikipedia wouldn't be running by consensus at all. One such proposal was to give all users the rollback button. Do you want every edit warrer to be able to rollback someone's edits? I guess you could say take away those who abuse it, but that would be thousands of users! Just remember one thing: Consensus is King. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:38, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Nothing I said has the least intention to attack The Wiki Way. How do you imagine I'm arguing against consensus as our cornerstone principle? I'm arguing for it.
VotingIsEvil. Voting and consensus do not mix. Consensus has nothing at all to do with a mob of people trying to out-shout each other, and when they're all done, counting the warriors on each "side" to determine a "winner". Contentious, hostile debate and voting is the opposite of consensus. The process of forming a consensus does not begin by shouting down those who disagree with us -- even if we imagine them to be in the minority.
Building consensus means to listen to others honestly, and to respect and honor the ways in which their opinions differ from ours. It means to seek compromises and alternatives that at least partially satisfy others' concerns. It means to defer and modify our own pet ideas and open our minds to a wider range of possibilities. It means taking time and energy to build acceptance among a group of individuals, each of whom may have different needs, concerns, opinions, and methods by which they contribute.
Consensus begins by withholding judgement. There is always time to condemn later; but once we have condemned, we cut off any possibility of working together to improve. Consensus continues as we engage in discussion. We avoid making points and attacking; instead, we present our concerns and work on them together. When all parties to the discussion have had their needs addressed, then we can say we have achieved consensus.
It is not always possible to achieve consensus. There is no exception that allows us to examine the state of a debate, conclude that a minority can never be appeased, and proceed to ignore them. Consensus is not unanimity -- there may well be those who continue to oppose the compromises and improvements we have worked out. But we must not take the easy way out and dismiss objectors out of hand. If we have made no concessions to good-faith minority opinions -- if we are unable to so much as throw them a bone -- then we cannot claim consensus. If we take action without consensus, we are not thoughtful, willing, constructive contributors to our Community -- we are mere tyrants.
Another template... lemme just type subst: on it. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:50, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
But we had consensus against both toby and zap. We were just fine by BEANS though. And please do not quote Wikipedia:The Wiki Way when its an essay that you wrote. I know you're just saying it was something that always existed but you put it into writing. You've said that about several of your policies, and even the template you put on my talk page you wrote that in your summary. Most of us don't really agree with that. And The Wiki Way seems to have its focus on creating policies, which as we know is your favorite past time. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:56, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
I just wanted to compliment you on keeping an eye on this topic, while at the same time keeping your cool. My feeling is that Xiong is looking to engender heated responses, and it benefits the community for him not simply to be rebuffed (when he's wrong and is seeking confrontation rather than consensus), but for him to be rebuffed calmly, in the spirit of consensus, and without aggression. Thanks again. Nandesuka 12:11, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for that, its appreciated. :) Redwolf24 (talk) 19:31, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
The Wiki Way is not a proposal, and nothing is similar to it. — Xiong熊talk* 06:27, 2005 September 12 (UTC)
It wasn't even the word Bush, it was "Bush's". I couldn't imagine any purpose to that red link, so I removed it. I figured it was probably only there by accident. Everyking 02:43, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
no, that wasn't my problem, I just want an edit summary. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:47, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
As happy as I was to be on your friends page, I feel you are correct in deleting it. After seeing you and Essjay with friends pages, I thought I might want to create one of my own, but decided against it out of better judgement. While I admire you both, and consider you to be great editors (as I do for many others out there), one runs afoul of watching out for others' feelings whenever one creates a page like this. I noticed most of those users you listed were the ones who helped you out in the Redwolfisgay saga, and removing some who do not consider you a friend, or whom you no longer consider friends would be seen as quite rude. You seem like a welcoming user, and a nice person, but the thing about the internet is that, for all I know, you could be an axe murderer, or crazy (not that there is anything wrong with axe murdering), and the same can be said of me, or any other member here, as much as I'd love to believe otherwise. Please don't take this personally, as I love to come picnic at your talk page constantly, but I think you were right in removing it. All the best, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 03:10, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Har har har....You know there's a musical made about her? (I saw an ad for it somewhere, and I've been to the house; it's creepy!) On a related thought, wouldn't it be terrible to be the filmmaker? I'm reminded of Office Space to the 10,000th power. [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 03:24, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Great movie. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:29, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Sigh*. Yes it was. I find it interesting that with all the sequels today, they didn't make another Office Space (thank God). Don't get me wrong, I loved it, but there's too many sequels these days. </nostalga> --[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 00:02, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey some sequels are alright. American Pie 2, Scary Movie 2, though note the third movie in each series wasn't that great..... Redwolf24 (talk) 00:14, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Eh, true. Jurassic Park 2 was pretty good, as was Terminator 2: Judgment Day, but I guess it's the trilogy part that kills me. (Note that some films work as trilogies, and some dont. The tagline from Scary Movie 3 was "Great trilogies come in threes") -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 00:23, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Oh Jesus. I just looked at the Jurassic Park page, and it looks like they're making a fourth.....WoW, just WoW...
Star Wars was good with sequels. As was Indiana Jones, and Bond, though you don't think of that as sequels really... I'll tell you this though, Matrix 2 sucked, the first was the best, and the third was pretty good. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:28, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
I am in complete agreement with you on that. Matrix 2 made my head hurt, and the girl I went with to see it kept laughing when Smith would absorb someone. It tried too hard to philisophiclize and make connections with religion and such. The first was kickass, the second one was terrible, and the third O.K. I wonder what those Watchawski brothers are doing now? -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 00:32, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Butting in* You know, I loved the first Matrix, but the other two just weren't as good. As a philosopher and (more importantly) theologian, I had a great time watching Matrix 1, but the (non-prof) friends I saw it with apparently didn't, as they kept telling me to shut up... ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 00:50, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! It's a work in progress. :-) Still trying to refine it. :-P Maltmomma(chat) 03:17, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
Its good as is in my opinion. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:20, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
I like it too! (I'm a huge fan of comic sans). What do you think of mine? It's not that new, but it's semi-new.... _[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 03:32, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
My normal font is like this. Maybe I should add that to my signature... I'll go test it. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:45, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Speaking of sigs, I recently noticed that I too have an e in my username (yes, it took me a long time), and have been thus far very interested in the idea of Esperanza. I would like to become more active, but I would also like to refer others to the page, and was wondering if I could steal your green e idea, or perhaps if you'd help me to create an idea of my own, I'd very much appreciate it. Continuous thanks, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 00:02, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Yes, by all means take it. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:04, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Why thankya! Only problem is, it's kinda long, but hopefully the e will stand out at least a little. If not, then it's back to the drawing board. Thanks again, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]]00:29, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Haha... I stole it too. Thanks for the idea. --Lord Voldemort(Dark Mark) 19:41, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Wow, why doesn't everyone just go and steal it now, gosh. I thought I would be an origional thief, but NOOOoooOO... C'mon Vader, if you want to steal something.....(I can't think of the rest). But yeah, I think the bold and italic e looks better in your sig, Red's is more of a subtle message, but yours and mine needs to stand out more. Thanks Red for having good ideas and letting me steal them. -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 03:32, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
You know how people sell experienced MMORPG characters on eBay? The game companies don't like it but can't quite stop it either. Hm....selling admin accounts? (joke!) FreplySpang(talk) 04:05, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
Your highest bidder is Willy On Wheels at 600 dollars. *accept*. Wow, that would suck. He'd just unblock himself, and few people can desysop :o Redwolf24 (talk) 22:35, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
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Done. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:35, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, my RfA is not quite over yet, but either way, I'd like to thank you for your vote and your support, regardless of the outcome. -- BMIComp(talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 18:20, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, its pretty close ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:35, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
User:Johnwilkesbooth, I saw that on your front page about him. I just don't understand why that username could be "offensive", he's just a person. If that's offensive then wouldn't that make any username after a person offensive. Just because he killed someone doesn't make it offensive. I have Fascist in my username and that's offensive to some people, but no one cares along with me. It's a political belief, and John Wilkes Booth is just a person. That's all I'm saying, I don't really have any reason to care, but I just think if someone wanted that name they should get that name. The Fascist Chicken 20:17, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
I blocked him for shooting Lincoln. If someone signs on with the screen name Bin Laden, I'll block him too. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:35, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
But he (meaning the person who has the username) didn't shoot Lincoln, and Bin Laden is just a person too. I hate what he did, but it's just a name, so people should be allowed to have it, its just censoring, maybe people believe what Bin Laden or Booth believed and they want to use their names to show it. I only think the one's that should be blocked are like "____isgay" or "_____isadirty**^*^&%%*^&*", not names, would someone with the username JesusChrist be offensive no, because you're a hypocrite, you can block some names that might be offensive but not all. So therefore none should be blocked. That's just what I think, I know you don't care, and that you don't care that I'm fighting with you about this. The Fascist Chicken 00:22, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Names like Hitler and Bin Laden and to a lesser extent, Johnwilkesbooth, are just intended to offend. When I see crap that's truly INTENDED to offend, I will block it. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:37, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
How do you know it is "crap that's truly INTENDED to offend"? Intended? That seems to me to be a rather blatant POV statement which ignores the assume-good-faith dictum! Hmmm. Moriori 07:45, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Exactly Moriori gets what I'm saying. See whoever that is is a genius. The Fascist Chicken 19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf, I hope you will not block me for my user name. I mean, I killed plenty of people. Actually, I was wondering about that... is my user name out-of-line? Do you have any idea about copyright status of names? I would really hate to change my name, but don't want to be penalized for it either. Thanks for any help. --Lord Voldemort(Dark Mark) 19:41, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Yes, he's right. And let's unblock Adolf Hitler, because someone may emulate them in good faith.
<unintentionally confirm Godwin's Razor>
and to you Lord Voldemort, I really doubt you'd be sued over an account name. Your name is fine, don't worry about it ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your support on my RfA and for your kind comments. Although, I wish I "already was one" a few days early so I could have stopped some nasty vandalism from the get-go! :-)android79 22:26, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
You already are one I tell you. You're just trying to make a point ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:35, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
WHOA... I haven't talked to you in like... a whole day Red :).
Anyway... if you are an admin closing a VfD, can you disregard obviously ill-informed votes such as "this was mentioned on another article's talk page, therefore it is notable!!!!11" when making a decision, if do you have to take them all into account? Ryan NortonT | @ | C 05:52, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
yes, as long as its not a sock or a user with >100 edits. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Hmmmm... I had counted 16-8; I didn't notice that one was unsigned and another anon. That makes 67% which is no consensus... if it's 16-6 it would make 72% which is still no consensus, or your count of 16-5, which is 76%, in my opinion still no consensus, but a very close no consensus. Normally I go for about 80%, especially when there's a large number of votes. My personal opinion is that this is a pretty silly article, and I'm hoping that someone with some time and knowledge quickly merges the article into a very small section of some other article, in which case this can become a redirect. But I'm just a janitor, trying my best to implement the (often unclear) will of the people. moink 16:27, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I hadn't noticed when I wrote this that someone later changed the decision. Well, whatever. We've always known that different admins would have different definitions of "consensus." Not a big deal. moink 16:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
One more quick comment. I just reread Wikipedia:Consensus to refresh myself on what it meant in practice. I had apparently missed this edit: [21] which changed the AfD definition from 80% to 67%, messing with my mathematical argument up there considerably. I guess there's no consensus on consensus. :) moink 16:58, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Ah. Don't worry about it though ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 22:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Hm, some miniwar seems to be evolving. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:09, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Please block this guy, 66.43.173.74 for his massive 3RR with POV insertions[22] to Ray Nagin article. All these long John Silver sockpuppets keep hitting the article every day. IP 209.x is the main sockpuppet.Voice of All(talk) 17:29, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
You said that three hours ago, while I was at school... so I won't block them as I'm sure they've either stopped or been blocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
The problem is that the only stop for a few hours, and then resume. They usually do it twice a day, and then start agian on the next day. This has been going on for days, these 3RR sockpuppets need to be blocked. I hate having to bother you over this kind of stuff, and that is why I will run for adminship on the 15th of October, as you suggested.Voice of All(talk) 02:45, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
I hope you didn't miss any of my posts above. I thought I'd do it like this rather than a whole bunch of edits. I wanted to know if there was anything I could help with pertaining to Esperanza. Is there still a working charter somewhere? I would be more than willing to help out, but just need some guidance. Thanks Red. --Lord Voldemort(Dark Mark) 19:41, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
I saw them all. And I don't really see anything for you to do... you can contact JCarriker to look for help. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Why do you say Portal:Oz is not active? I update the FA and DYK at least once a week, usually on different days, so it gets updated at least twice a week! --[[User:JonMoore|— —JonMoore 20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 00:47, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
weird, I wrote that at least a week ago and just now you see it ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 00:48, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't understand why you reverted. The close was no consensus merge, then some other guy just goes in, does an out-of-process speedy, and edits the close. This doesn't mean the debate "ended up" being closed as a delete, in fact it was completely out of process and opposed by at least two other sysops. I've already moved the post-close comment to the proper place, the discussion page for that AfD debate. Please revert your edit. --Tony SidawayTalk 02:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Two sysops opposing doesn't really matter... me and Splash support, so I guess it makes it even. Moink didn't know that the AfD consensus was normally 67%, he thought it was still 80%, as it was at one time. There was a 72% delete ratio, after we went over which votes were legit. Also look at Moink's comment on my talk page and the VfU. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:07, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Do you know of any Wikipedian who can and is willing to provide advice about the use of sound excerpts on W from commercial recordings? In particular, I need to know how to tag excerpts from a commercial recording by a company that has granted permission for use in writing (e.g., at the top of Johann Sebastian Bach. I'd also like to know whether we can use short grabs from commercial recordings without seeking permission. If so, how short do they have to be?
This is an important issue for composer articles, which could be significantly improved with the judicious use of sound excerpts from commercial recordings.
Second: If you have permission, then upload the file and list the permission on the page. Make sure it isn't a "non-commerical use only" permission, as that isn't allowed. Make sure to maintain a copy of the written permission in case it is ever challenged. (Although, I don't know where you would send it if it were; if you're particularly paranoid, scan it in and upload the image, then link it to the sound file.) There may be a "used with permission" tag, if not, just put "Used with permission" on the sound page and specify the permission. (Again, no non-commercial only permissions.)
Third: I believe you can use short grabs (30 secs or less) without permission, but I could be wrong. Anyone else know?
Hope that helps. -- Essjay · Talk 02:43, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Check the logs and go to the new user log and look how long ago it was created. If it was in the past 4 hours, let it go. If it was more and he has 0 contribs, block. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:43, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't understand your e-mail. I know what I did to Jackie Chan's page qualifies as vandalism so I figured you were warning me that I am about to be "blocked".
Otherwise I don't get your message, unless you are referring to the Irish and Croatian censors who refuse to allow painful truths on websites regarding the Ustase, Bleiburg Massacre, Michael Cusack, John Charles McQuaid, etc.
No problem, but remember to type ~~~~ after your comments on talk pages. The software converts it to your user name and the time/date. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:36, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
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Redwolf24, first, congratulations on your concept (#1) for the Main Page Browse bar. I would imagine that the change was a little shocking to Trevor MacInnis and the other Portal enthusiasts. Here is a proposal (#2) to incorporate space for the Portal link on the Browse bar. That would allow all the previous hard work of everyone concerned, some space on the Main Page Browse bar. #3 would have its advantages as well, but perhaps the initial view source tab might make things feel less accessible to a newcomer. I would not object to #3 either. Ancheta Wis 00:51, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
I went with option 2. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:59, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you in behalf of the Portal people. Ancheta Wis 01:12, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
No problem... Redwolf24 (talk) 01:15, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Heh. :) Are you going to put them all up on the same day? It would be a complete cabalian revolution if you did. :o Acetic'Acid 06:57, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
No... Who will be nominated October 1st... you'll be October 24th or so, and Toothpaste around October 30th. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:47, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Ah. Sounds good. Thank you for putting so much thought into this. The nominations look quite good. Acetic'Acid 04:17, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello again. I just saw your list of Mickey sockpuppets. MR LULZ and MR LOL are not linked to Mickey. They are sockpuppets of rn71989. I've never seen MRS LOL before. That one might be Mickey. Acetic'Acid 07:03, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Well maybe that's just it, rn71989 is Mickey?? Redwolf24 (talk) 23:47, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Um, no. Definately not. Ask me in IRC or MSN, and I'll tell you who rn71989 was. (I don't think it needs to be repeated onsite.) -- Essjay · Talk 23:50, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
1. The {{rejected}} tag is inappropriate, since castle-jumpers are monopolizing the discussion and excluding serious debate. This is a proposal, and a credible one, and obviously is going to take much more time to work itself into something useful to the Community. Nothing is gained by branding it as rejected, since unlike policy proposals, this is a design proposal -- it does not call for any editor action, cannot be cited to support or attack any editor's action. Toby does not attempt to set guidelines for editor's behavior; therefore there is no need to label the proposal in order to discourage editors from relying upon it. The only value of the tag is to attempt to strangle debate.
The tag should be removed and replaced with {{proposed}}, as before; or left untagged, as I wrote it; or tagged appropriately as an engine design feature request. In any case, intelligent discussion should be fostered, not suppressed.
2. There has been considerable debate, but the proposal itself has not been edited. I prefer to allow other editors to implement changes directly, but as they have not done so, I intend shortly to rewrite the proposal itself to take note of its greatly expanded scope. The page in question -- as written -- is less a proposal of any kind, and more the type of text I intend for Help:Toby -- at some distant future time.
At this point, there are actually three distinct variations of Toby under discussion:
Simple Toby;
Original Toby; and
Custom Toby
any of which can be implemented as:
Engine Toby; or
Aftermarket Toby
This makes a total of six different approaches to a potentially questionable content display management solution. The proposal does need to be rewritten from scratch to reflect this.
3. I will not belabor the fact that you and I have a personal feud going on -- nor do I wish to open that here. But this means it is inappropriate for you to take action in this matter. Having done so, I urge you either to step out of this conflict of interest, or do right. — Xiong熊talk* 22:59, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
You make a powerful argument, and I agree with a lot of it. But that doesn't matter, consensus has ruled against you. There's a slow edit war between you (who is minding 3RR) and several others. I think at one time Nickptar was for Toby, but he seems against it now. Now, let me tell you the truth: I thought Zap was one of the stupidest things I've seen, but I don't mind Toby anymore. I know that it doesn't apply to anyone cept those who want it. But I think the reason so many are against this is that they can't think of anyone who would even use Toby. I have no opinion on Toby nowadays, and I protected it from a neutral view. If you get a conensus of some sort, I'll be watching its talk page. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:47, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
No, consensus has not spoken at all on Toby; consensus does not equal a lot of loud, ignorant shouting. Read over the talk carefully and you will see that early on there were a few legitimate comments; but the great bulk of it has been ranting from extremists who consistently ride their biases and misconstrue facet after facet of the concept. This is not consensus formation -- not in any way. Not one single word from these ranters has gone toward discussion of the real Toby at all; let alone exploring or including other viewpoints.
Since you understand that Toby does not affect those who do not choose to participate, then perhaps you will recognize that grounds for objection are even slimmer than they might be in discussion of some other proposal that affects all. Toby-bashers are screwing with the right of free choice of those who want or need Toby's help. They simply have no right to be heard at all, without showing how their rights or our core principles are infringed. It is absurd for them to claim consensus.
No, you have not protected Toby "from a neutral view" -- you have locked it in the deprecated state, thus taking sides with the rabble. Worse, you have condemned it to death, since now improvement is forbidden. Far from neutral, your action is as biased as anything could be! Your statement of intent is irrelevant; you're doing damage. Better to delete the whole thing -- page, talk, demo, and all the rest -- and I'll just start over.
Mentioning Zap in this context is indirect attack ad hominum. It does not matter if I have been wise or foolish in any of my many other efforts. Toby is the subject here. Either be a neutral trustee, or discard that pose and be a partisan combatant.
I dislike long-winded debate; I dislike angry contention; I dislike heavy-handed authority; and I dislike most of all escalation of conflict from one court to a higher one. Please do the right thing now, and save us all the unpleasant stink of this fight. — Xiong熊talk* 00:17, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
From what I have seen, I haven't seen too many Toby supporters. And locking the page as is is the protected policy, I'm just trying to stop an edit war, really. If you wanna work on improving Toby, copy the source to a subpage of your own and edit it, and the result will be added when its unprotected. There's a straw poll being taken on toby's talk page. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:29, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
Straw polls are bullshit. The outcome is rigged, since there's already a well-packed group of detractors standing around waiting to vote. You should not even permit that.
I say your actions are wrong. You're acting out a personal grudge against me that has nothing to do directly with Toby. I've stayed firmly within 3RR; I've justified my edits soundly. You want to lock the page "as is"? Then lock it the way it is when it's right, not when some juvenile penis-wavers have fucked it. "When it's unprotected" doesn't mean too much to me, since there is no time specified -- you failed to document the protection in the first place.
It does not matter how many users are totally opposed to Toby, because they are automatically not affected. Therefore, they have nothing to say. I grant that this is a new situation, but there it is. What I put in my coffee is none of his or her business. Is that clear? I've already spent far too much time explaining over and over again to people who can't be bothered to understand. If you do understand, then you have even less grounds than most, and they have essentially none. — Xiong熊talk* 06:43, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Here was my intention of the poll: if one person, just one respectable editor, who's not you, thinks its proposed, I would change the tag to state as such. If we had just one person willing to use Toby, I would not mind. However, you are alone. You are the lone wolf posting {{proposed}} vs. the many posting {{rejected}}. I know about Toby and I know that it doesn't affect those who don't want it. But no one wants it! So find a respectable editor willing to use Toby, and we will make Toby {{Proposed}}. And sorry for taking so long to respond, my power was out. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:28, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
I just wanted to drop you a note to thank you for your support on my RfA. I'll try my best to live up to the trust you've shown in me. Thanks for caring about what's best for Wikipedia, and thanks specifically for not letting those who play fast and loose with the truth batter you down. Regards, Nandesuka 00:49, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
Related to this [23] comment of yours made here. I reverted this page [24] back to its former self and the user was the culprit uploader of the not so pretty picture. It's this ok? I'm fairly new around here. Thanks! Northernstar79 06:40, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
I indefinitely blocked him after about 3 edits. Don't worry about him. Redwolf24 (talk) 20:24, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
You have a very teenagerish tone for a sysop. How old are you? The Dylan page will be protected shortly. JDG 22:59, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
1) This project needs to tighten up on qualifications for admin type positions; 2) No, I'm not very familiar with adminny tags and procedures. Long ago, years before you'd ever heard of Wikipedia, I made a decision to steer clear of adminny stuff. The soul of this project is researching and writing. Everything else is less than secondary, except maybe software development; 3) The Dylan article was blocked for reasons you should have known (read the Talk page and the RfC on Monicasdude). Are you really going to make me flag down people to revert you or are you going to be big enough to just say "my bad" and reprotect it? JDG 00:40, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Please chill on both sides. JDG was certainly unaware that the template itself does not actually protect a page. I once made the same mistake myself, on a completely different page (and was also accused of malice and bad faith, rather than of simple ignorance, as was actually true). It's not obvious to non-admins what is technically required for a page protection.
On the other hand, a protection tag does not belong to the particular admin who first placed it. I'm sure Redwolf24 was also acting in good faith in thinking that the protection had passed its relevance. Unless you've carefully followed the RfC, the talk page, the page history, and all, an outside editor won't really be clear on the status. For that matter, even someone who has followed it all could come to various opinions on when protection should/will be removed; there's no simple rule.
I do think it's too early to unprotect this particular page (and see that it has been reprotected by Redwolf24). So let's all smile, and leave the protection for a bit longer. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 01:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be fine to unprotect this article so that we can see if the RFC had any effect on his behavior before RFAR is considered. ⟳ausa کui× 11:10, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I find your string of prejudgments in this matter offensive. You still have not identified any areas where, as you claimed, I insisted on my text in defiance of consensus -- and, as the comments of the RfC should make clear to an unbiased observer, the disputed text that user: Lulu has insisted on including is neither factual nor undisputed, with a clear majority of those commenting opposing it. It should also be clear from the comments on the RfC that there are clearly two sides on this dispute, and that singling me out as the principal cause of the editorial dispute simply casts a blind eye to the clear misbehavior of others. Monicasdude 15:54, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Between Monicasdude's below comment and his one edit during the brief unprotection, I definitely tend to think we're not ready for unprotection. Specifically, in [25], Monicasdude removes a perfectly good change by an anonymous editor stating "NPOV recent addition". The change by User:138.88.200.36 itself is probably unnecessary, since readers can follow the George Jackson link themselves. But the change is also definitely not POV. To my mind (which is suspicious on this matter, by this point, I admit), it is a slight hint of the same pushy editing pattern that utterly disrespects other editors. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 16:13, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Saying George Jackson was simply "killed in prison" without mentioning the claim that he was killed while armed and attempting to escape from prison obviously fails to comply with Wikipedia NPOV policy. Monicasdude 16:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Look, I was trying to clear out some backlogs and all this happens. Ryan Delaney can protect and unprotect as he pleases, I'll not clear out any logs for a while. Redwolf24 (talk) 20:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I want to thank you for your vote and your support of my adminship! I promise you I will not let you down. -- BMIComp(talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 22:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Rw, I just wanted to tell you I'm so glad someone is relieving Lucky 6.9 from the thankless job of mopping up after Wiki brah. I have watched this saga from the beginning, and, although it is at times very amusing, I would not want to be in your shoes. Thanks for your hard work. paul klenk 23:06, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Now go sign [26] then? Redwolf24 (talk) 23:06, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Regarding Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Kdbuffalo, could you explain to me what exactly is meant by the phrase, "Users certifying the basis for this dispute"? Is it a vote or a judgment, or just affirming the links and the issues involved? KHM03 23:07, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Its basically a vote. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:12, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks...not sure what to do. I think Kdbuffalomeans well, but he hasn't really been too respectful or "community-minded", in my view. I suppose we're all guilty of that at times, but he just seems so unwilling to compromise or gain consensus. If the vote goes against him, will he be permanently banned, or would/could he be assigned to an administrator to kind of "mentor" him? Or would he simply be banned from certain articles? I'm unclear...thanks. KHM03 23:24, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't really know, if you don't like the view that's there, write your own ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 23:25, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I fear the view is essentially correct, I'm just not sure what to do. Thanks for your help...KHM03 23:31, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I think you should post at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Kdbuffalo#Outside_view. If it's not the right place, someone will let you know where you should post. But by all means, post your impression of the situation. Guettarda 23:37, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
My brother gave me his account since right now he's changing his life around, or some psycho babble like that. I'm going to make edits that are for the better, but if I'm not allowed to have his account while he's gone, then I'll just start up a new account, and then this account won't make any new edits for awhile since, my brother will be gone. So just tell me if I'd be blocked for using his account or not, its not like I'm going to vandalise or anything. The Fascist Chicken 23:09, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Create your own account or the chicken will be blocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:12, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Okay I created my own account which I'm going to use, so don't block my brother's account. Skunkwheels 01:58, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
"The number of Assemblians is number to the percentage set by the admin gen that can be evenly divided into the three tranches."
Check that wording, something is wrong. Also, what are the tranches for?Voice of All@|E|Merit 03:14, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Hehe, δ33z, well first off, this should really be named "Hacker" or "h4x0r" (to be precise), although I know the article exists for Leet, but I think it's slightly wrong :) I was one of those 80's BBS geeks who used this, and you were l33t to use it, but it wasn't called that. Granted I guess I should really work on that article and get into a bunch of discussions there over it. But I still dont' have fulltime net acs, so o well. Anyhoo, now I'm waitin 4 Klingon, Elvish and Elmer Fudd language cats/templates, to name a few. ∞Who?¿? 03:24, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Klingon is already around. I invented the User 1337 babel thing saying hey, we have Klingon, why not 1337? And I chose 1337 in particular because its the most well known version ; - ) and hey, only about 13 days til your RfA! Redwolf24 (talk) 03:26, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Hmm, I missed the Klingon one, oh well. Not complaining really, just thought it was interesting it was created, though I fear it will end up on Cfd :( ∞Who?¿? 05:19, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Category 1337? Theres 97 of us!!! Klingon, maybe, but IIRC there was about 15, which aint too shabby Redwolf24 (talk) 05:23, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Don't get me wrong, I like it. But there are a bunch of users who are against Wiki cats in general. ∞Who?¿? 05:46, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't see why, we have Category:User en and I can't picture anyone wanting to kill that... Redwolf24 (talk) 05:48, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Currently I am not an Esperanzian but I have been checking the page and it seems like a very worthwhile project. Perhaps when I get back from my slight wikibreak I will join, feel free to keep me updated, Derktar 05:49, 19 September 2005 (UTC).
I hope you join :) Redwolf24 (talk) 05:50, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I went ahead and added the photograph as you suggested to Auckland. The reason I had decided not to use it was that the section on Ferries doesn't have enough text to prevent the photograph from impinging on the following section (Landmarks and Places), whose header ends up beside the photograph rather than below it as I would like. I suppose this isn't a huge problem, but I'd rather that not happen. However, I'm a graphic artist and perhaps shouldn't get too hung up about such layout niceties. But take a look and see if you think it's OK. JShook (talk)12:36, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Is okay if the picture goes past its own section. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm really curious where you saw an assertion of notability on Rachel Lamb. Or do you just disagree with speedying anything that's on Afd? Friday(talk) 14:09, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
It wasn't a definite call and I didn't think a speedy would be adequete. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
My understanding is that the speedy tag certainly does not compel any particular person to delete the article. Whoever doesn't want to delete it can and does feel free to not delete it. I can't see any reason to remove the tag when it's valid, though. Friday(talk) 14:11, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
If I don't fully agree that it should be speedied, then I can remove it. Not like it matters, as the AfD will sort it out, and its not causing Wikipedia any harm that we have to kill it now. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:19, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Nice work on that Redwolf. I made quite a few comments on the talk page but probably the most relevant one is that the charter seems to be kind of lacking a more detailed "mission statement". I'm worried we might still be all a bit confused about what Esperanza activities, practices, aims, etc, really are. To me the way it is "governed" or the precise little details about how members or assembly people are elected is for the fine print -- may not even belong in the charter at all?? I might like to have a go at minimally editing the charter when you think you and Jcarriker have gotten the general shape right. Cheers and again awesome work! Lisa 14:42, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, though its mostly JCarriker's work. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I love the democratic changes that you made RedWolf24; this is one organization that does not need too much beaurocracy.Voice of All@|E|Merit 01:06, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Bureaucracy* :) Redwolf24 (talk) 03:05, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, and keep me updated! Oh, I did an article on Esperanza for The Signpost'. Be sure to read it! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:33, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I will! Redwolf24 (talk) 22:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I hope this doesn't make you regret saying that you're always willing to help, but ...
I'd like to have an administrator impose a 24-hour block on Jayjg for violating the prohibition imposed by Requests_for_arbitration/HistoryBuffEr_and_Jayjg that he not remove "adequately referenced information from any article which relates to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict" for the period 16 January 2005 to 16 January 2006. Jayjg violated this prohibition repeatedly by changing Occupied Territories (Israeli) to a redirect and by removing link to this article at Occupied Territories.
(Tεxτurε would probably like to follow my message to you with this:
"You may want to review Marsden's history of reverts against community consensus in the articles before you act. Thanks.")
Redwolf, just so you're aware, aside from the fact that re-directing a POV fork back to its original page is not "removing adequately referenced information from Israeli-Palestinian conflict articles", Marsden has misunderstood the Arbitration Committee ruling. There are no Arbitration Committee restrictions on my editing; see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Completed requests. Jayjg (talk) 20:07, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Leaving aside whether the disputed actions were ok or not, the arbitration case linked pretty clearly says you're not allowed to removed referenced facts from isreal-related articles. Are you saying this decision has been overturned? --fvw* 20:29, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
fvw makes a good point, and so does Jayjg. However, I have not even HEARD of this arbitration case, so I don't think it would be adequete to block jayjg. However if fvw blocks, I'll say its a fair call. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:22, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Looks good, but I have one question. Does the Admin Gen sit on the advisory council, or do they act a bit independantly. Since there are four members, a tie could be inevitable. Like the U.S. Senate, the Admin Gen could break a tie, but if they are impeaching him/her, this could be a problem. How about this: in the case of impeachment, the advisory council must recommend unanimously to the general Esperanza body a vote of no confidence. What do you think? Bratschetalk | Esperanza 00:16, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Well that was my original intent, but then I realize the admin general doesn't do too much but provide direction, and most of the advisory council just makes sure he's not an idiot. In any needed functions for the advisory council that we may deem necissary, the admin general would be part of it, yes. And for impeachment, 3 to 1 would not impeach, it would have to be unanimous, which would be very hard. The council would then be the pro tempore leaders. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Possibly many institutions could survive without the "guy at the top" and work just fine with a dedicated advisory committee who can make the day-to-day decisions by themselves. I guess if we are going to have the Admin Gen the he/she should be there to be like a coach -- to make sure members are active, stay aware of news and make executive decisions when no one else is taking a lead. Lisa 03:03, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
P.S. do me a favor and copy the above to a section at the bottom of Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Charter. I would, but my clipboard is full of the message that I sent you and I'm up to about User:Lord Voldemort, so about halfway I guess. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Looks good to me also. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Don't want to toe step. :-) Maltmomma(chat) 02:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Be bold maltmomma! suggest some stuff at its talk. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:48, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I will put my thinking cap on. ;-) Maltmomma(chat) 02:49, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
The changes look good to me. I have made a couple of edits to the charter now. I hope you guys don't mind. It's difficult to resist on Wikipedia :) Do feel free to correct anything you're not satisfied with. Lisa 02:59, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Lisa I even gave you kudos on the charter's talk page. I'm watching the page of course! Redwolf24 (talk) 03:02, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I think to get 6700 edits in the next 20 hours I would have to release several bots ;-). I took several months off (May through July, 2005) and just go started :-). You must be a busy bugger!!! -Roby WayneTalk • Hist 01:46, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I have 0 edits in May IIRC and maybe 20 in April. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:48, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I get it, I get it! I am a slacker :-). I just learned how to wield a broom and a mop around here a few weeks ago--much more active than before. Now, I feel like I live here. Heh heh. -Roby WayneTalk • Hist 01:58, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Ohnoes, mop=adminness. Thats what that term's for ; - ) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:00, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Hmm, I have a "smaller" mop, then :-). How about a dust brush and pan? haha -Roby WayneTalk • Hist 02:29, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf24, I think we all need to step back and take a deep breath and re-evaluate our goals for Esperanza. I don't think JCarriker feels it is quite ready to take off and it's going too fast. You've done a great job and have made some good changes but until everything is set in stone, I think JC needs to be included in all finalized plans. He is willing to open up a dialogue to get this all straightened out. I know you both only want Esperanza to be the very best it can be. Let me know your thoughts. Maltmomma(chat) 17:37, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Mama and Momma. I have messaged him at his page, but alas, I have also left a message here. After seeing comments like this, threatening to massacre me, I can barely be interested. However I have made some friends thanks to Esperanza, which is what I'm thankful for, but I lost one of my best ones, JCarriker. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:22, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your support in my RfA. In addition to creating a repsectable (I hope) new administrator, I hope the RfA also had the added bonus of promoting the gospel of smerge. It'll be nice when i feel I don't have to link that anymore. -R. fiend 18:12, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
..you just baffeled, confused, and angered one (notice I edited the mediation page to chage my status to inactive, but made no changes whatsoever to your nomination). I have always and do realize that none of this was intentional.
The moment I dissolved the provisional goverment, the charter, until the Assembly was elected, was a done deal. You also had no authority to call an election for a charter that had not replaced or modified the existing one without the Assembly. I understand your desire to please everyone, especialy since through Esperanza you have made many new friends. I too am willing to compromise, but there is a point at which compromise becomes nothing more than submission, and that friends must agree to disagree. Esperanza is a voluntary organization if someone does not like the way it's run they don't have to help run it or even be a member if they so desire. The Assembly has always been what made Esperanza unique and its inclusion, for my part is non-negotiable. I am not willing to build a garage for some, where I had planned to build a house for all.
As far as compromises are concerned, I am willing to remove certification, in fact I had intended to do just that, which would have set a precendent for amending the charter. I am also willing to allow for an amendment to allow for a re-call of the Admin Gen by the general membership. My preferecne is that the charter be restored, the Assembly be elected and that htese changes be made by amending the consitution, though the method of pursueing the changes are debatable as far as I am concerend. -JCarriker 00:11, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
I feared that the first action of the assembly may even be dissolving itself. I see little support of the assembly, even though it sounds like it would be interesting. I believe it was Kim Bruning who said that government is normally unneccisary until about 150 members. Plus, we have such people as Ambi saying we've been wasting too much time on bureaucratical stuff and we should be working on WP:ESP/P. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Esperanza was desgined to offer a safe haven from the mob rule that regins on most of wikipedia- where newbies are chided, senior wikipedians out-manuever less experienced ones, and minorities are shouted down. Not to mimic that very process, the criticisms about Esperanza doing unprecedented things is abusrd, as Esperanza was intended to be unprecedented as it is unique. Esperanza is worthless if it only repeats, what other projects are going and time would be better spent on the KC. I'm not going to stand in you way, but if Esperanza is not going to be what it was supposed to be I see no reason to stay as the safe haven of hope it offered through its uniqueness is gone and it will be nothing more than another clique of wikipedians. -JCarriker 00:31, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Yout move is touching, Matt but their is a season for everything. In all likelihood I am far younger than you are in terms of the real world, but at wikipedia I am tired and old and I am exhausted with the constant bickerings and edit wars and term wars over self-declared fiefdoms, while you are young and energetic. As an elderstatesmen I urge you to except my gift there are others who are not as capable as you who will drive Esperanza into the ground if you do not stop them. Please allow a tired old statesmen to slip into a retired life. -JCarriker 02:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
How Mark Twainesque. You will return I assume one day though, and I will be waiting. :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:24, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Now I feel Mark Twainesque, or more Huck Finn I guess, floating out here in this little stream, on a little log raft, waiting to be reconnected to the big river. :( ∞Who?¿? 02:34, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Actually I rather identify with Cicero, but I guess I can say I write good engough to know I should write well. I would consider not leaving if the Assembly would only be given a chance, even if on a temporary basis. I'd rather loose the admin gen than the assembly. -JCarriker 02:38, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
It's good to see that so many people are actively thinking about Esperanza and similar good-faith efforts; thanks for your energetic work in this regard. Have you thought seriously about such an organization, with shared charter and projects, but without 'advisors' or 'generals'? I should ask the same of JCarriker.
Pick one popular esperanza-project and get everyone to pitch in (consider the success of the stub-sorting project). I hope you won't throw out the gathered interest, even if noone can agree on founding principles or reforms... just start doing good work. If there is so much work that it is necessary to delegate specific responsibilities to certain members, try delegating low-level responsibilities (such as splitting up the work of announcing new projects and proposals and polls [each announcement can take half an hour]). +sj + 00:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Yes I have, and so has ambi. What I did was a compromise between JCarriker and Ambi's ideas. JCarriker's experimenting with whole new ideas, which are pretty good, but its true, Esperanza should be working on other stuff, like stuff in WP:ESP/P. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
I would worry more about those projects than about the policy reforms. You can always decide on a charter later, after the first successful project has been launched. +sj + 04:18, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf24 and kudos to you for trying to mend fences. You've done a good job and I don't think you should beat yourself up over this. We need to work together to bring it back stronger than before. You have many good ideas so lets discuss with JC and implement them. Maltmomma(chat) 02:35, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
I think he's keen on leaving wikipedia, though I will wait for his return. Now to try and salvage Esperanza, I just made Wikipedia:Esperanza/Reform. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Greetings; no, actually I haven't been following (recently, my life has been a lot of real-life stuff, if you know what I mean). I'll look at all the talk, but I'm not sure I'll have ideas right away. My one main idea is that this should not be an overly formal organization: just a lot of decent people who want Wikipedia to be a friendlier place, maybe with some general direction in the form of a comment/suggestion bin. Philosophically, I think what Esperanza is trying to do is fill the same need a town has when it transforms into a city: the place where once everyone knew everyone else, has become a place full of unfriendly strangers. This is happening to Wikipedia, and the transformation continues; Esperanza could be one of several informal entities that can soften that transition. Antandrus (talk) 02:54, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
This transition happened in wikipedia back when it started showing up on Yahoo. And unfriendly strangers such as that Redwolf24 jerk came cause of it ; - ) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:56, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Let me take a moment here to keep you updated with my activities with respect to Esperanza. I removed my name from the list because I currently do not have the adequate resources available to devote to helping with Esperanza. I also want to stay outside of the current activities there so I can objectively think about what best to do next. I promise, I will return to help you out, but currently there are more important issues I need to attend to both on and off the Wiki. Esperanza is still on my watchlist as it always has been, and it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.
I know how important Esperanza is to you - I was really happy to see someone recently try and help Esperanza take off. You don't need to apologize for "spamming" about Esperanza. You are just doing what you think is right with what you have available to you. I honestly believe you are doing this because you think Esperanza is a worthwhile cause - and yes, I agree, it certainly is!
If nobody has told you explicitly yet, thank you for taking up a leadership role there, at a time when it seems very needed. It may be tough going forward, but I think if you stick with it, things will pay off. Personally, I think the most pressing issue is to mitigate through the two extremes - "government, or not"? Sometimes, a viable compromise is not necessarily something that falls right in the middle. Perhaps there is another alternative yet unexplored? Which extreme might be more palatable in the short term? If that is adopted now, would it be possible to gradually move towards the other so that an equilibrium is reached, more in line with the ideals of what you think is best? Sometimes, it is easier to build organically from the bottom upwards, than to impose from the top downwards. Which top or bottom would be a good starting point to best work with?
Ask yourself: at this point in time, what do Esperantists need? What don't they need? What do they have? What do they wish to do without? Why might that be? Take a bit of time to step back and really contemplate about this - the situation is not as precarious as it seems. Be bold, but not reckless. You have not been reckless at all, and any well meaning Wikipedian carefully observing will see that you have done the best you can. Keep persevering! Remember, often change is transitory, and so is a Wiki - intrinsically. Share in the wealth of ideas - they are meant to be brought forward. Treasure the ones that are worthwhile, and move on from the ones that are not. Be prepared to reconsider one's positions, and learn to change when necessary. Adapt and modulate as the situation warrants. It is very important to recognize that no two perceptions of equity and equality are ever the same. Why might it be important to distinguish between the two?
Finally, I leave you with Bloom's Taxonomy:
6) Evaluation
5) Synthesis
4) Analysis
3) Application
2) Comprehension
1) Knowledge
Use this as one of many frameworks to guide your future endeavours. The list is inverted for a reason. Do you see how each of these build on top of one another? Understand what each of these levels of thinking are trying to express and emphasize, and see if you can apply it to the situation at hand. Your friend has simply left for vacation while his house is undergoing renovations - major renovations perhaps. You happen to be an excellent friend and a trusted contractor, and consequently have been given the keys to his house. Take care of your 50+ colleagues who are helping to build it. Listen to what they have to say. Check the plumbing, check the wiring, check the regulations. Be meticulous, but not overbearing. Occasionally take them out for lunch too - and don't forget that sometimes a quick 15-minute coffee break is good! Send your friend with say, a monthly postcard. Take pictures of what you have accomplished. Maybe one day a very happy Wikipedian will return to say "Wow! I never thought this would be the future - this is wonderful!". Trust the Wiki to nurture a vision that is synergetic with everything that is out there and beyond!
Regards, HappyCamper 04:18, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Well ya do what ya can, hopefully this will all work out, we just need to work at it. And by the way, you can stay on the list without doing anything, a lot of our users do that. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm the user goncalves67, a new user.
I would like to now why the wikipedia guys are always deleting some photos from some articles, look a month ago I try to put a photo of princess Alexandra Christina of Denmark, Countess of Frederiksborg in the page where it says something about her, but they always are deleting the photos, I was trying to put one in there because its always better an article to have photos about the person or the thing that is speaks abou (sorry for my inglish). Today I was loking to that some article and there's a photo of her but they say (wikipedia) that is gone be deleted because it doesn't have copyright.
Can you help me, and help to put a nice photo in that article, because there's so many beautiful photos abou that woman and I think that would be nice to loke there, or to any article and see a photo about that some article.
Thanks for your time.
Goncalves
You need to tag them. See WP:IMAGE and look for tags, then look at what to tag your stuff with. If you don't, it'll be deleted. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, dont worry, spam me as much as possible as I have found that my watchlist doesnt load half the time. I have voted, so I hope we can get this project on the road real soon. Banes 05:23, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Do I have to be an admin to run for the advisory council? Thanks
Yeah, I second that...I'm not the least bit bothered by your messages, so no sweat amigo. I've just been bogged down at work this week and haven't had much time to edit...been mainly playing RC patrol. I'll check in again tomorrow.--MONGO 05:29, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh please come on, you're not spaming me don't be ridiculous, I want Esperanza to succeed as well. I'm giving it to you in writing: Please keep spaming me about Esperanza until I drop! :-)) cheers Gryffindor 10:32, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
No you don't have to be an admin for that. And even though so many of you are saying the spam is welcome, I'm sure there's those who don't want it. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Feel free to keep spamming me, I don't mind :) Agriculture 06:34, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
This goes for me as well. Although I still haven't had a chance to go through it all, I promise I will. Well, as soon as I can sit on my couch at MY computer and get online I will. UGH! ;-p ∞Who?¿? 06:40, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for alerting me about the vote, but the outcome of all of those is already clear. I hope those ten or so people are prepared to do all the work, because I suspect there's not going to be many more people willing to dig through the bureaucracy and cabal-like organisation. It's having the same problems as WP:CSB did when it began - brilliant idea, but with people who desperately want to be "leader" and drowning in bureaucracy. I'll have to give this some thought, but I'm highly tempted to start a free and open organisation to carry out these noble goals, along the lines that Filiocht describes on that page, and leave Esperanza to the feuding few. Ambi 09:26, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi. Don't hesitate to spam me with esperanza stuff. I've actually been reading the stuff going on at the project quite closely, though not participating, because it all seemed, honestly, a little bit unmotivated for some time. That's not a proper excuse, but I hope you know what I mean. Karol 16:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
I do. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I appreciate your effort in the elaboration of the Esperanza project and do not mind the "spamming", as you call it — to tell you the truth, I quite like new messages being left on my talk page. Alas, I find Esperanza to be too "bureaucratic" to my taste; that is, excessive attention is given to the project administration, and this appears to be a hindrance, somewhat ironically, to its progress. In addition, I now lack the time needed to involve myself in such a "venture", and am unsure I can guarantee taking part in it, even once current issues will have been resolved.
I excuse myself, thank you, and wish you the best.
Well its seems my friends are not going to let me retire after all. While the Assembly has been soundly defeated there is also great division among the other alternatives. I have drafted a compromise and I'd like to run it by you and Ambi before I post it the reform page. The Administrator General, Admin Gen, will be the only goverment functionary elected to a four month term. Redwolf is acknwoledged as the current Admin Gen and will set the date for an election to be held within the month. The Admin Gen's terms cannot be consecutive, and may not nominate themselves for the postion. Only Esperanzian members on the date before and election begins can vote. This allows a minimal amount of bureaurcracy The issue of government expanison will be taken up when/if Esperanza passes 150 members. If you and Ambi, can consolidate most of Esperanza it should break the current facitionalism and unite the organization behind you and its goals. -JCarriker 18:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Sounds great actually. But I want to see the group's opinion on the advisory committee, just getting rid of them before the polls end would make me seem two faced :-/ Redwolf24 (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Category:User_1337-N sucks, can you fix it? That template and that category were terribly written like that. I fixed the template, can you fix the cat? I have too much of a life to be doing this..heh. --Phroziac(talk) 00:45, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Not now, busy. Message me later in IRC. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I fixed it. It was pretty bad. Jaxl | talk 03:27, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I just seen some page addition asking Who? :) ∞Who?¿? 02:05, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Check RfA! Redwolf24 (talk) 02:05, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
yea, thats the one I was referring too. Just seen it in my watchlist as soon as you added it. Now to think of all the answers to all those pesky questions, yay. ∞Who?¿? 02:07, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, you still have a comment in there dated 11 Sep and referring to your sandbox. Is that deliberate? -Splashtalk 02:08, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Whoops! Redwolf24 (talk) 02:08, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Red, I have created a template intended for notifing a user that a test has been reverted and references the article in question. It is tailored after {{test}}. I would appreciate your opinion and input. Thanks! Psy guy(talk) 03:14, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
looks fine. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:18, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I think it looks good as well. In the future, you may want to consider proposing template creation on Wikipedia talk:Template messages first and create it as a user subpage, but for this specific one, it would probably have been better to propose it on one of the Test talk pages. They are watched by quite a few users and you would have fairly quick feedback. This way you avoid it being thrown up on WP:TFD and you can get immediate input before you create it in template space. I have created quite a few templates, some of which I should have proposed first :) ∞Who?¿? 07:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Well its seems my friends are not going to let me retire after all. While the Assembly has been soundly defeated there is also great division among the other alternatives. I have drafted a compromise and I'd like to run it by you and Ambi before I post it the reform page. The Administrator General, Admin Gen, will be the only goverment functionary elected to a four month term. Redwolf is acknwoledged as the current Admin Gen and will set the date for an election to be held within the month. The Admin Gen's terms cannot be consecutive, and may not nominate themselves for the postion. Only Esperanzian members on the date before and election begins can vote. This allows a minimal amount of bureaurcracy The issue of government expanison will be taken up when/if Esperanza passes 150 members. If you and Ambi, can consolidate most of Esperanza it should break the current facitionalism and unite the organization behind you and its goals. -JCarriker 18:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Sounds great actually. But I want to see the group's opinion on the advisory committee, just getting rid of them before the polls end would make me seem two faced :-/ Redwolf24 (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Why not place it as one of the options on the table and let Esperanzians decide? I have been infomed by a post that Ambi is willing to support this, in other words you'll win over your greatest critics. Since you are conducting polls I see no reason not to propose this as an option, especially since the charter has now been, through your own precedent, to be seen as unpermanent, at least until passed by referendum. -JCarriker 03:22, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
K, then put it on the table. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Willl you please let me know how to use the Chinese character so that can be read in all web instead of having such mark ???
Thanks--YSC Fan 06:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
That has nothing to do with Wikipedia, it has to do with your computer. If your computer doesn't have Chinese installed on it, i.e. from its startup disc, you see ????. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi there Redwolf24. I desire to have Esperanza in my signature, can you tell me how to do it? Thanks, and keep spamming me with any Esperanza news! Banes 08:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Special:Preferences->Raw Signatures on->Type in the box
[[User:Banes|Banes]] <sup>[[WP:ESP|<font color="green">Esperanza</font>]]</sup>
Which becomes:
Or you can do it this way:
[[User:Banes|<font color="darkblue">Ban</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Banes|<font color="darkblue">s</font>]]
Thanks for answering the question, I was very confused becuase I've read of other ways to welcome new members, and was unsure of using that particular method.
Hey Redwolf24, I just saw Wikipedia:Esperanza/Spamlist, and didn't know if you were aware of NotificationBot, a great bot designed by AllyUnion. While it does have some glitches (it left triplicate copies last time), I've used it succesfully quite a few times for Wikipedia Mind Benders, which has a contact list of 50+ (I did notification once manually, took me forever...). Anyways, I just wanted to let you know about it, so you can consider using it for Esperanza. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 20:16, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf, I was just leaving a message on another user's talk page, and you had put the welcome message there. It seems like you have on just about every other user talk page I see. Way to spread the wikilove! :) --DavidConrad 21:50, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia would like to remind users to practice safe wikilove by always using a wikicondom! Agriculture 21:54, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Mr. Treason latex condoms. Redwolf24 (talk) 21:55, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Mr. Treason? Agriculture 21:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't get it... Agriculture 22:04, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't know... Mr. Treason condoms tend to "break" on you...... *ducks* Ryan NortonT | @ | C 22:05, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Trojan latex condoms->Mr. Treason latex condoms. When you think of trojan you think of the horse, which was a rather sneaky and cunning thing to do, and it seems a weird name for a condom... and explaining jokes makes them suck ; - ) so nevermind Redwolf24 (talk) 22:08, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Expalining them that way makes them funnier... :) Agriculture 22:16, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, I've officially listed you as a member of the mediation committee.
I'll need to take a further look at Flcelloguy's nomination to make sure I fully understand the opposition and the surrounding comments. - Mgm|(talk) 22:11, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! :D Redwolf24 (talk) 22:12, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
w00t! Congrats Wolfie, go Esperanza! Agriculture 22:18, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Congrats on becoming a mediator, and a special thanks for your vote on my RFA. Greatly apperciated, I owe you one! PS: Hurry up with that damn pizza and beer!
Congrats, Redwolf24! Hopefully I'll be joining you soon... :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, MacGyverMagic said he would look over the reasons you got those oppose votes. I got mine as I was unanimous. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:00, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
So you did fall for the "evil jpg"? Well, now that you've edited my user page, do you want to trade user pages as part of the Esperanza program? Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 00:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
P.S. You might want to try giving yourself a message... ;-)
No I didn't fall for it as I use full screen. And nah, I in particular won't do the trading spaces as my page is quite sexy. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, you can hire me as a secretary for only 45 Wiki-Bank currencies per message! Quality secretarial work will respond to all your messages while you sit back and relax... Seriously, though, you might try archiving less often; I usually archive around 75-100 messages. However, it is quite fun naming those archives! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 00:18, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
590 messages?! Geez... well, still, if you did 100 messages per archive you would only have 6 archives right now. ;-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 00:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
VfU it is, then. Cheers! -- BD2412talk 02:25, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Yup, nice to see you BDA :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
I've now listed them separately. Sorry if I seem overly critical of your closing, but I do think that under the circumstances, at least the "keep some" votes should have been treated as "keep all". The articles could have then been relisted on AfD individually, without going to VfU first. Believe me, I know how it is closing complicated AfD's. -- BD2412talk 03:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, if you get a chance, can you look at this entry on ANI. User:IMNOTEMICO keeps posting sock puppet banners on User:Ironbrew's userpage. I spoke with Ironbrew, and read the "evidence" suggested, but don't put much faith in it. I was posted by an anon, and I believe IMNOTEMICO is User:Emico, who evidently has a ban or watch against them. If nothing else, I dont believe a user of 2 days, should be posting sock puppet banners. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 02:41, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
IMNOTEMICO indefinitely blocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:47, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thanks, got tired of seeing them edit the page, and I did my one rv for the day :) ∞Who?¿? 02:48, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Your RfA is looking well in other news :D Redwolf24 (talk) 02:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Hehe.. speaking of dogs, I have to walk mine. ∞Who?¿? 03:01, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I have to admit, its going fairly well. I try not to seem to interested in it. However, I very much appreciate the work that you and Essjay have done, and can't really find words to show my gratitude. ∞Who?¿? 03:47, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
No problem. I have failed noms for you and Acetic Acid, which I will make up by having noms that pass with FLYING COLORS :D Redwolf24 (talk) 03:48, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Your right, looking at it now I should have never nominated him. I didn't even know that he was nominated 2 weeks ago. And I look at these things even though ive only edited for a day now. However i was thinking about nominating Harro5 or LGagnon although im not sure. Type O Spud 04:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
No worries, really. --Redwolf24 (talk) 04:24, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
IF they were Russians, wouldn't we call them cosmonauts? User:Zoe|(talk) 05:17, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Aye, probably. But Taikonaut is almost neologism. and I believe Evil_Monkey said that the word taikonaut was created in 1998 by a Malaysian, so it seems weird. Its not something I'm passionate enough about to war over though. --Redwolf24 (talk) 05:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Hmm, never heard it either, but space.com has an article on them. If interested. ∞Who?¿? 05:26, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Nah, I'm not that interested in warring over it, either. :) User:Zoe|(talk) 19:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
I only got the position, because Mediation reforms were heavily discussed at the time.
As long as you know what to do, I don't see a problem with you taking the chair position.
(Perhaps it should be a shared thing, so the chair doesn't get overworked).
The chair position pretty much entails keeping RFM clean, assigning cases you can't handle yourself and making sure the committee is effective. If you think you can handle it, I'd be happy to appoint you as chair in my absence. If any of the other mediatiors oppose, I think you should try offering a shared position so one of them can have the position while the load gets lightened. - Mgm|(talk) 07:00, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Please review the images you are using on your user page. It appears that many of these are on Wikipedia under the fair use clause of US copyright law. However, fair use will generally only apply in circumstances where the subject matter is being discussed and commented on. In most circumstances, it is unlikely that this applies to images on user pages. As such, most instances of fair use images on user pages should be removed. Dragons flight 09:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
I was kinda wondering about that awhile back. I read some of the terms of the fairuse tags and some of them are explicit in use. I didn't think of userpage use though, just usage on certain articles. ∞Who?¿? 09:56, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
I've created this in the hope of the Birthday Greetings project getting off the ground, hope you approve and include it in your next round of spam. PS Oh and congrats on getting admin, have a beer on me. Alfmelmac 12:50, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
haha, I'll check it after I close the polls... Redwolf24 (talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
It's basic, but it'll work, needs Founder's Day for sure. Going to go in for a bit of Trading Spaces yourself? :) Alfmelmac 01:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf24, any chance of closing the polls/votes on Esperanza soon and getting some action done? It seems like most everybody who wanted to voted has voted; there's been barely any new votes the past day or two. Thanks! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 13:36, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Probably by the end of the day? Redwolf24 (talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Why are you supporting User:Zscout370 in his arrogant deletion (without consultation with the uploader) of perfecting valid uploaded images, identified as such even if if not formally tagged? jimfbleak
Sir, he just awarded me with an award, please do not drag him in the issues you have with me, please. Zach(Sound Off) 21:21, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Zach, this sort of comment could be seen as abusive, "Don't try to drag him in, he likes me"? How is that relevant. If someone asks for an outside opinion, it should be provided, as Wolfie did. You're making a dirty appeal to authority Zach. Agriculture 22:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
He was enforcing the will of the Jimbo. Jimbo said to just delete without counsultation. So your problem isn't with me, or with Zscout370, its with Jimbo. Go veto him if you see fit? Redwolf24 (talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
...for the spaceman! Working on WP:CP is even more of a King Canute than AfD/Old but I think we're down to something in the region of....oh...650 articles or so....-Splashtalk 15:20, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Haha Redwolf24 (talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Just for your information. User:Ted Wilkes has repeatedly deleted paragraphs from talk and article pages. See [27], [28], [29], [30]. He even falsely claimed to have moved content from the Talk:Elvis Presley/Homosexuality page to the Talk:Elvis Presley/Sexuality page, but the content has been totally deleted. See [31].
Those are from a while ago, please only bring current stuff to my attention. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
You deleted the Talk:Elvis Presley/Homosexuality page on 25 September. See [39]
Ah. I deleted it as it redirected to NOTHING. The /Sexuality page must have been deleted by another admin, find him instead. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:35, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't think that an administrator deleted the /Sexuality page. As far as I can see, User:Ted Wilkes only claimed to have moved content from the Talk:Elvis Presley/Homosexuality page to a Talk:Elvis Presley/Sexuality page, but the latter page wasn't created at all. Thus the content has been totally deleted by Ted Wilkes. See [40]. Perhaps you are able to reinstate the original text. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.141.255.121 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 26 September 2005
I have a request. From [41] it can be seen that your recommendation of staying away from Squaring the circle comment was left on Wikipedia's time 19:50, 24 September 2005 (your signature implies that your local time differs 5 hours from wiki time).
However, Rktect has already broken the mediation process by readding his content on Squaring the circle at 22:33, 24 September 2005 diff: [42].
Therefore, It is only fair that the entry be restored to the previous state so I can agree that we both stay away from such entry. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 02:00, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Reverted and warned. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:10, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I have been, as you know, following the Wiki Brah "saga" with interest since I was the one that brought up the R.F.C. against him, which started the chain of events that led to him getting banned, then un-banned, then you got involved and re-banned him. I was just wondering why Lucky 6.9 said he couldn't unilaterally block someone, but you can? I thought that was an ArbCom decision. Please forgive me if I don't know what I'm talking about though -- I'm pretty new to most of this!TheDeletator 03:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I can unilatterly block him as long as no other admin unblocks him. Thus, making it not entirely unilatteral. If someone unblocks him, he's unblocked. He'll be back, and if he continues being an idiot, I'll block him for two months, and if he keeps going then, then he can say goodbye. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:36, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Ok understood. And what about that "RainBow" guy? Did you unilaterally block him? I thought you can't ban someone for anything but vandalism and 3 rr type stuff.TheDeletator 03:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Nope, look at WP:BLOCK. Also we can use common sense. He was pretty much trolling, i.e. intentionally trying to annoy people etc. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:57, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Okay thank you, gotcha.TheDeletator 04:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Had to waste my 3700th edit on somebody. Isn't that a nice number? And giving away milestone edits seems like an Esperanzian (zist?) thing to do. Have a good day! Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza 04:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I've done the chart for you. You can view it at Image:Redwolf24-edits.png. I won't be placing it on my contributions subpage so please feel free to delete it whenever you're done with it or keep it if you want.
Some comments:
You use edit summaries just 39% of the time. Over the last 500 edits, just 30% of the time. Please use edit summaries, ok? :-)
I did a chart for User:Flcelloguy yesterday. He had an average of 32 edits per day. That was the highest I'd seen yet. I was floored when I saw yours...almost 52?? Wow!
Please have a look at User:Durin/Admin_nominee_charts#.22Will_you_do_a_chart_for_me.3F.22. This is the second time in the last few days that a non-admin nominee with less than 2,000 edits has requested a chart from me. I don't mind doing them for those admin nominees with less than 2,000 edits because I feel it helps focus the discussion on those nominees. Since you're just the second person not in that group of people to ask, I went ahead and did the chart. However, I really don't want to get in the habit of making a chart for anyone who requests one. It takes too much time; time I could be spending on other wiki stuff. I'm not upset at your asking! :-) I just don't want word to spread around such that I suddenly get hammered with a million requests for charts, ok? :-)
All the best, --Durin 13:44, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
The problem with not using edit summaries for user talk pages is that an RC patroller has to learn what your particular editing peculiarities are to know that the lack of an edit summary for a user talk page is normal behavior for you. This might be fine if it was only you that had this editing behavior. However, there are others that I have seen who do this as well. Thus, there's significant scaling issues with this behavior; how many editors will RC patrollers have to know the editing behaviors of? I used to not use edit summaries for my own user, talk, and subpages. I figured it should be obvious I'm not vandalizing my own page. Now, I use edit summaries 100% of the time (unless I just click "Save page" by accident before entering edit summary). Please consider doing the same? Thanks, --Durin 14:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Your action leaves the page as reverted by drini with substantive content removed. As there is no good reason for the content to be removed I would prefer it that you leave the content, I will make no further changes till the matter is resolved. Rktect 14:48, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't think that is a sign of uncooperation since he didn't readd his content, he's just stating his preference. My only point is that he modified the entry at (22:33, 24 September 2005) AFTER you requested us not to touch it at (19:50, 24 September 2005). I never touched the entry from that moment on so it was only fair to ask the same. However, if you feel you prefer to drop the mediation, that'd be fine with me. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 01:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Hmm, I think the RfM should be dropped, especially as he looks like he's not gonna pass the RfAr :-/ Redwolf24 (talk) 01:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Not rushing you or anything, but any chance of getting the votes sorted out at WP:ESP and doing some action? Thanks! After all, votes and polls don't make the community happier. :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 22:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
OHNOES! There's a tie on the assembly. What are we to do? Best to wait. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:33, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
You picked a heck of a day to decide to nominate me :-) Not only am I late for home now, but I'm also sicker than a dog! Argh! Earlier today I was thinking the recent requests for charts from three different admins was probably going to lead to a nomination from one of them...immediately followed by the thought, "I hope not today!". Oh well :-) --Durin 23:32, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Well then turn it down ; - ) and being sick in the real world is often good for wikipedia :-P Redwolf24 (talk) 23:34, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I saw your comment on Talk:WWfEM about an RfM, and dug it up at:
RfM#Dispute_over_membership_and_conduct_on_Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wikipedians_for_encyclopedic_merit. Notice the big difference between Wikipedia and, say, Fox News. Fox News at least pretends that their information comes from somewhere. "According to some guy at the Bureau of Vital Statistics..." they might say, or "We spoke with the first village crone and midwife we came across". Wikipedia, on the other hand, just asserts. The article has been sitting there for 11 months, through five edits, and no one has bothered to explain how they got the idea there was a baby boom. There's no source listed.
So, is it true? Did people plan Millennium Babies just so it would be easier to calculate how old they were? ("Let's see. It's 2005, and you were born in 2000. That makes you, uh, five, right?") I hate doing Wikipedia's homework for them, so I didn't look too deeply into it, but a quick Google gave me a page of realistic looking birth statistics.
According to this guy, 2000 had more births than any year since 1992, but it's only a whopping 0.8% more births than in 2001. It's 2.5% more births than 1999, but is that a boom? I mean, look at it this way: some year has to be higher than the others, so there's already a 1 in the 3 chance that births in 2000 will "noticeably outnumbered those born in the preceding and following years." Even 0.8% is "noticeable". I mean, I noticed it. And what about the rest of the world? Births over those three years did indeed peak in 2000 in Australia, India and the Netherlands, but not in Ireland, Britain, Spain, Russia and Canada.
24 Sept. 2005: Laura Sydell [make link]
I remember lying half awake one morning (Feb. 20, 2005), listening to the radio as Laura Sydell narrated an interesting article about Wikipedia on NPR. In commending the vast range of the encyclopedia, she pointed out that it even had an article about the rather obscure journalist, Laura Sydell.
Ironically, an error appeared in that very same article a couple of weeks later, on March 12, explaining that Ms. Sydell was "born and raised outside Dallas". Well, I suppose technically it wasn't an error. She was from outside Dallas -- a thousand or so miles outside Dallas. Five and a half months later, on August 31, the article was corrected to read that she was, in fact, from Northern New Jersey.
Please drop me a note when you assign me to a case. Keeping RFM on my watchlist is a pain because people always update it for trivial things. --Improv 01:33, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Will do! Redwolf24 (talk) 01:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
I'd kinda rather not be an administrator at this time... maybe not for awhile, actually. I think it'd be best to wait a few months - maybe until the beginning of 2006 - when I finally get my stress under control. Thanks for the RFA, though :) NickBush24 02:51, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh come on it'll be down by the week's end ; - ) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:53, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
I see your pollicy on talk page size, and I was wondering how you find the size of the article. If you could help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 03:17, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
When you're above 30KB on a page, you get a warning as you edit it. Anything less I don't know how to find out. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:34, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering why the entry of Jimmy James Johnson was deleted?
I know it's based on a rewritten news clipping, but isn't better to have something than nothing?
How could it otherwise be improved? Now there's not even a history about what happened to the guy.
Looks fine, perhaps such a layout for the page stops the Mediation tasks template from being needed. I restored the rest of the header anyway, as it contains the dispute resolution table and some important links requesters should read. BTW, I don't know if you did it, but never use a single '='-sign for headers. Headers start at ==. - Mgm|(talk) 07:34, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Replied at your page. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:12, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
The project is dead. I expect the other "side" of the mediation still has some beef, probably with me. If whatever they want mediated is appropriate for RFM, I would consent to any mediator save Ed. Hipocrite - «Talk» 11:18, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
I'd also like to note that a many-on-one mediation is likley not going to be productive, but again, that's for the mediator to determine. Hipocrite - «Talk» 11:19, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Let me wait for the others to respond. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:12, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello, I saw your mediation filed at RFM. I have been cleaning it out and I'm wondering if mediation is still desired. I can assign a mediator or allow Grace Note to, whichever is preferred. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Er, I guess Ed Poor has been mediating. Nevermind then. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:07, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
?!?What?!? What mediation are you talking about? I assume you mean this mediation, which Ed Poor attempted to make a mess of (as usual) until both I and EB rejected him, asking him to have no involvement whatsoever. EB also rejected User:Grace note due to past troubles w him under the name of User:Dr.Zen. We currently have no mediator, but are almost finished ;) If you'd like to come lend a hand that might be ok, but please be careful, and make sure EB accepts you before getting too involved. I personally would accept you, assuming you read up on the matter abit more ;) Cheers, Sam Spade 16:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't think I could mediate as I have experience with you two and I'm busy planning other mediations... Redwolf24 (talk) 03:12, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
No worries, nothings happening anyway ;) Sam Spade 18:52, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I am all quite new to this so if you could explain the procedure for what you have done i would be very thankful
Bretagne 44 16:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
That page shouldn't be medcom'd, it should be RFC'd. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:12, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm happy to join the Mediation Committee. Would you do me a favor, though, and alert me whenever you assign a case to me? I will check WP:RfM as much as possible, but some things often slip through my watchlist. Thanks a lot! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 19:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Of course. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:12, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I'll be gone for a few days. Leaving tomorrow morning and probably be back next week (Tues). I may or may not be able to get online while I'm gone. Talk to ya'll (you and Essjay, because I'm too lazy to put the same message on their page and I know yours is monitored :) ) when I get back. ∞Who?¿? 03:18, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Alright, just hurry back :P Redwolf24 (talk) 03:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Listen to the Lemming: [43]Dragons flight 03:35, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Ah. To be honest, I never saw that message. Now, to keep up my honesty, if I did I probably would have ignored it. But I'll clear up my page. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:37, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. You know, admins trying to set a good example. Yada Yada. Dragons flight 03:42, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
moved from archive, I should really pay attention to what page I am editing :) ∞Who?¿? 03:44, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Hehe, Mr. Lemming knows. I looked at the image, and its tag says copyright expired. Not sure how accurate that is. However, if it were replaced with the image referenced on that page this one, that's a U.S. gov site, I believe it can be used freely. ∞Who?¿? 03:37, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Actually I chose the Lemming cause it had a fair use message in it's caption. It is all the popular culture pics that are actually a fair use problem. Dragons flight 03:39, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Yea it was just funny. I think it could probably be replaced with a PD image though. ∞Who?¿? 03:44, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Of course it doesn't help that the one you linked to has a photo credit on it. Dragons flight 03:45, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
yea I seen that, but I couldn't read it, well could but didn't bother. It's used on gov site, which makes it PD. I got that link from the image page, not sure where it came from originally. ∞Who?¿? 03:48, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Grumble, grumble. Not everything on a gov site is PD, only those things produced by the US government. They can beg, borrow and buy images for their websites, same as anyone. You have no idea how often we have to fight back the tide from this. Dragons flight 04:05, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm no expert, it was just what I believed that any image used on a gov website was granted permission into the PD. Mainly because the source was usually paid by a Federal grant, giving them permission to do with what they please. Tiz Ok, I'm not planning on using or u/l to many images, and I try to find sources for all of mine. You can just kick me, I'll get it right by next week. ∞Who?¿? 04:09, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
That lemming IS public domain. Otherwise I'd be taunting and abusing fair use with a caption stating I'm doing so. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:46, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I thought the no copyright tag need a source link or something. O well. Don't listen to me, I'll just sit over here with my popcorn and watch the show quietly. ∞Who?¿? 03:51, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
...its tagged PD. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:53, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
D'oh! What in the world is wrong with me eeeballs.. I looked at it twice, and just seen "copyright". I need sleep! ∞Who?¿? 04:01, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
So, do you plan to ask the Fonz and Family Guy for permission? Though it would be cool if either said yes. Dragons flight 04:13, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Sure. But not before I ask Redwolf24 not to strangle us for the constant "You have new messages" :) ∞Who?¿? 04:18, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
One more new message, let's see if I'm the one who loses the strangulation roulette: The Willie at the top of this page is fair use (or rather, isn't) too. --fvw* 04:23, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Just think of the flashing orange message bars as an early halloween. Besides, he can't hurt me, I'm already an admin. You on the other hand Who, he still has 3 days to change his mind and mount a campaign of opposition. Or maybe field a better baseball team? Dragons flight 04:30, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Hehe. I'll bring him back lots of halloween candy to go with the decorations already on his monitor then. That ought to do it. ∞Who?¿? 04:36, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf-- Thank you for your support on my RfA. At this point it doesn't look so good, but that's okay. If I don't achieve sysophood, I think I'll be alright. No need to alert Esperanza quite yet. :) I'll just keep up the good work and maybe try again later. People are allowed their opinions and I respect that. Thanks. --Lord Voldemort(Dark Mark) 15:53, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Notice the big difference between Wikipedia and, say, Fox News. Fox News at least pretends that their information comes from somewhere. "According to some guy at the Bureau of Vital Statistics..." they might say, or "We spoke with the first village crone and midwife we came across". Wikipedia, on the other hand, just asserts. The article has been sitting there for 11 months, through five edits, and no one has bothered to explain how they got the idea there was a baby boom. There's no source listed.
So, is it true? Did people plan Millennium Babies just so it would be easier to calculate how old they were? ("Let's see. It's 2005, and you were born in 2000. That makes you, uh, five, right?") I hate doing Wikipedia's homework for them, so I didn't look too deeply into it, but a quick Google gave me a page of realistic looking birth statistics.
According to this guy, 2000 had more births than any year since 1992, but it's only a whopping 0.8% more births than in 2001. It's 2.5% more births than 1999, but is that a boom? I mean, look at it this way: some year has to be higher than the others, so there's already a 1 in the 3 chance that births in 2000 will "noticeably outnumbered those born in the preceding and following years." Even 0.8% is "noticeable". I mean, I noticed it. And what about the rest of the world? Births over those three years did indeed peak in 2000 in Australia, India and the Netherlands, but not in Ireland, Britain, Spain, Russia and Canada.
24 Sept. 2005: Laura Sydell [make link]
I remember lying half awake one morning (Feb. 20, 2005), listening to the radio as Laura Sydell narrated an interesting article about Wikipedia on NPR. In commending the vast range of the encyclopedia, she pointed out that it even had an article about the rather obscure journalist, Laura Sydell.
Ironically, an error appeared in that very same article a couple of weeks later, on March 12, explaining that Ms. Sydell was "born and raised outside Dallas". Well, I suppose technically it wasn't an error. She was from outside Dallas -- a thousand or so miles outside Dallas. Five and a half months later, on August 31, the article was corrected to read that she was, in fact, from Northern New Jersey.
Hey, Redwolf24, I've accepted the mediation case, moved it to mediator responded, and left a message on both talk pages. About the Esperanza vote, I understand that there's a tie on the Assembly- how about using the NotificationBot to alert all 64 members to vote, and set a deadline (in say, a week)? Currently, only 28 people have voted on the deadlocked proposal. If you contact the whole list, I'm sure the deadlock would be broken one way or another. I kind of doubt that more votes will be added at this point; even if a vote is added, it wouldn't represent the true intentions of the community- the next vote could very well be a support, or it could be an oppose- it's all in the timing. Do you see what I'm trying to get at? (probably not, it doesn't make sense to me, either. :-)) Thus, if you contacted people and they voted, we could give Esperanza a boost. Thanks! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 20:19, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Well there was ongoing discussion about the block and support for it at WP:AN so I would have preferred you looked there before unblocking. If the prevailing opinion was against me I would have unblocked myself. But as you have unblocked I won't reverse that, I just ask that you are willing to look into the issue and see how much time he has wasted of everyones in pursuing his promotional campaign. He has been an extremely net negative editor. I don't know why we waste so much time trying to support people that are not improving Wikipedia. His email to you is just more of his pattern of playing persecuted. It's clear his only interest is in promoting his site. Please participate in the discussion at the AN. Thanks - TaxmanTalk 23:21, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
You should definitely be sure to read this link, where Uriah declares his desire to always have the last word in any argument. Jdavidb 23:42, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, well we DO have many editors who work in advertisement and have prominant roles at other places who don't spam. He may stop spamming. I promise the first time he does it he's gone. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:45, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I posted on the admin notification boards conversation about me. Check it out and weigh in, if you'd like. Uriah923 04:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
As you are now my "mentor," would you explain to me the reasoning for my "privilege" to link to my online articles being revoked? I haven't seen much in the way of explanation, just promised to ban me if I don't obey. Why would such links from my user page be bad for WP? Or, is the privilege removal meant more as negative reinforcement for me, rather than an attempt to protect WP? If that is the case, what are the terms of my sentence? Uriah923 17:15, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Now that your one year older... you probably grew a couple of centimeters since the last birthday... and you've probably gotten smarter... and yea.. HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Sasquatcht|c 00:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
happy b-day ^_^ Project2501a 00:06, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
HAPPY B1FFDAY!!1oneoneone. --GraemeL(talk) 00:11, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
WOOOHOOOO!!!I hereby give you the RN "thanks for cutting the cheese" award!"Cheese cake" Well it's cheese shaped like a cake.
Just for good measure! Happy B-Day!!! Ryan NortonT | @ | C 00:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
BIRTHDAY PUNCHES!
*Sings* (off key). Happy Birfday, Red! Too bad I can't give birthday punches over the web...tis a shame indeed. Congrats on your ___th birthday! -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 00:15, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Happy Birthday buddy. You're the fifth person I know with 9/29 as their birthday. :o Acetic'Acid 00:25, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I once saw a card that horrified me. It was titled Late September and on it it said "If your birthday is in late September... Your parents probably had sex on Christmas." *shudder* Redwolf24 (talk) 00:26, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I have a birthday song, but you really don't want to "hear" it B->. Cheers. ∞Who?¿? 00:29, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Happy Birfday, as well :-). And I don't want to hear about your parental units' holiday coitus...especially if Jolly Ol' St. Nicholas was involved. Gives new meaning to 'kissing under the mistletoe', though. :-) Heh heh. Have a great one!!! >:Roby WayneTalk • Hist 00:37, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Just when you thought your talk page couldn't get any larger, I decided to throw my hot sauce onto your cake. Happy birthday Wolfie! --Deathphoenix 20:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Doesn't anybody read ANI anymore? Not that its important, but I dont think that an anon should be posting someone's phone #, even if it is just in edit history. A simple rollback would erase it. ∞Who?¿? 01:16, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Check that same ANI Redwolf24 (talk) 01:28, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
If a page you have written is put up for deletion, and you improve it, how should you tell people that you have re-written it and can consider keeping it. One of my pages has been put up for deletion, CED Videodisc and I have re-written, but I dont think it met the requirements for deletion in the first place. Thanks-Oliverdl 01:59, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
One method I see a lot is to go to the talk page of all those voting telling them to re-read the article and reconsider. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:02, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Have a good one - Guettarda 15:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Coming off my Wikibreak to say "Happy Birthday!" the wub "?!" 16:30, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Your birthday present.
Although you seem to have lots of Birthday wishes already, I would like to add mine. Have some socks. --Celestianpowerhablamé 17:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!!! FireFoxTC 18:29, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
My home PC is in the shop so I'm not getting email. Please reply to my talk page and tell me what lead to your last comments Rktect 14:44, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday dear Matthew
Happy Birthday to you, bro!
So, you are turning 15? I just found out on your user page that were born on September 29, 1990 in Canada on the section of which country you've been to.
Is there anything good you're gonna be doing on your birthday or what? -- Mike Garcia | talk 18:37, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
A very delicious pizza!
EDITION MADE BY A BRAZILIAN GUY
Hey man...i have no idea of who are you,but...i was reading your profile and realized it is your b'day today.Happy birthday dude!
Hmmmm...What to get Red for his birthday...If I were a 15 year old boy, what would I want? Vices! Sex, Liquor, Drugs! Happy birthday, buddy! -- Essjay · Talk 21:13, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I would like to ask if the comments that user:KeithTyler made on my talk page are suitable. I don't think they conform to wikiquette and have a lack of civility. I just wanted to bring this to your attention and get your feedback.
Thanks, and happy birthday!-Oliverdl 21:39, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Hmm, seem kind of mean, but not quite bad enough to warrent a block. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:12, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Thats fine, it didn't really need a block.Oliverdl 01:18, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
hi i wanted to know what kinds of things amerigo vespucci has done other than explore the americas because i am writing ans essay on him and i need more info well thanx
hi i wanted to know what kinds of things amerigo vespucci has done other than explore the americas because i am writing ans essay on him and i need more info well thanx
Hi Redwolf24. I just undeleted and re-AfD'd the whole lot of these, per my reasoning now at the bottom of VfU. Don't take this the wrong way: I just don't think there was another interpretation of the VfU comments. Anyway, at least this time, we'll avoid all the knots of tangles of mass-blanket AfDs.
You appear to have had or be having a birthday: so happy birthday! -Splashtalk 00:19, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Ahh poopie! I just saw your edit to your user page, and I was very saddened. I recently (last few days) downloaded the trial of Photoshop CS2, and began tinkering with the two images Essjay had talked about on your talk page. I'm not that great of a photoshoppist, but I'm somewhat of a perfectionist, and even though I know it looks ugly, I'm still working on it. The only thing I really have left to do is to experiment with the font a little (I couldn't find a suitable replacement font for the "wikipedia" part...). Ah well, in the infamous words of Gabe Newell, it'll be "done when it's done". -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 02:00, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Two heads are better than one. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:08, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind support of my recent nomination on RfA. Many happy belated returns of yesterday. But was tying you to the village lamppost the best thing they could have done for a birthday present? Best regards, RobertG ♬ talk 11:06, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Happy birthday to you too, Redwolf24! Wow, your talk page is getting cluttered with these greetings... Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 16:05, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
All powerful mentor, I have come seeking your wisdom again. Check out this diff page and let me know what you think. Seems way over the top to me. Uriah923 19:42, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Of course it does, but then you thought you should be able to spam Wikipedia with as many links as you wanted too. Again, for repetetive past behavior, you no longer have any "right" to promote your site. - TaxmanTalk 21:05, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Seems to me like you were promoting, especially with the backwards thing. Taxman has the right to do this IMO and it was part of the unbanning compromise that you don't mention ON in any incarnation. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:15, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
==Who's RfA== Thank you for supporting my masters RfA. He appreciates your support and comments and looks forward to better serving Wikipedia the best he can. Of course I will be doing all of the real work. He would have responded to you directly, but he is currently out of town, and wanted to thank you asap. Thanks again. --Who's mop?¿? 20:33, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf24 — I have an idea (well, actually, it's a month old, but...) Would you mind taking a look at User:Flcelloguy/Appreciation week? I created that a month or two ago, before WP:ESP came around. What do you think? Do you think that would be a good project for Esperanza? Also, in case you didn't notice, someone voted oppose on the assembly vote. Do you think that the polls should be closed so that Esperanza can begin? Thanks a lot. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:34, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
P.S. When I was looking at the mediation mailing list membership a few days ago, I don't think I saw your name or email on there. Though the list appears to be inactive (no activity on it since I joined), you might want to join the list in case someone brings up something there. Thanks!
Link me. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
If that were the case, I would consider Who's RFA to be better, but I have 76/1/1. :). →Journalist>>talk<< 00:10, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Ah. When I looked at your note at essjay's page, you were 73. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:11, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I anticipate Acetic Acid's RFA. I predict he will make it the top 5 (or higher) :) →Journalist>>talk<< 00:18, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
He's a great guy, but not 100% sure about that, people like Erwin Walsh seem to hate him.
by the way, I think just for interest's sake I'll run an RfB on October 10th, my halfbirthday for wiki (april20th is my first edit). I know I won't pass but I wanna see how I do. And I'll try to combat this whole 'been here for a year' thing... Redwolf24 (talk) 00:21, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, you probably would win, no kidding. You are well respected, and you also hold many high posts. I think you could pull it off. →Journalist>>talk<< 00:44, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
That made me feel warm inside, really, but people care too much about time. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:52, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
You spammer! I'll get over to the Irc soon...got this silly notion of working on every darn land management article in Wiki lately and haven't been "trolling" around much elsewhere...still participating in RC and Afd and will be back there more in a few days...see ya.--MONGO 00:45, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Replied on talk page. Hilarious that you have a section called Wrong Person and you put it on the wrong person's talk page! Redwolf24 (talk) 02:26, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
What a coincidence. Have a good weekend, I just got out of the Wiki-Jail too! I'm more than happy Yahoo! Getting late here Caio Scott 02:35, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh no, I was never in the WikiJail, I saw your block and all... if you mean my user page it was an inside joke with Mark_Ryan and karynn from IRC. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I just love this place! Have a good weekend Scott 02:43, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Matt, Esperanza has soundly rejected my ideas, in other words they don't want to go in the direction I would lead them. Your concern is appreciated, but please remember that we are talking about an organization that rejected my orginal idea and subequently my proposed compromise. Leaders are chosen for their ideas; my ideas have been rejected, not once by Esperanza, but twice and in so doing rejected me as its leader. Its is simply not pratical, and possibly even unethical for me to take the lead of an organization that has twice sidelined my agenda. Besides Esperanza needs a leader that is upbeat and optimisic about its prospects, I'm still recovering from seeing a tolerant community crush a cherished idea; and while that is already forgiven, it will never be forgotten and subsequently be sometime before I trust the community as a whole again. If you are overburdened, might I suggest you try you entice Essjay, I believe he would meet the qualifications for the job perfectly. Thanks. -JCarriker 03:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Do you think Washington or Lincoln always had the country agree with them? I'm sure there were times when they feared the country was gonna crash altogether. Regardless, both were elected to second terms, and were we to run an election, you would win by a landslide. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:33, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
If I were Admin Gen, the first thing I would do would be make the ESP main page more navigable. The second would be to reinstate the provisional government. Do you really think that would be accepted? I don't. -JCarriker 03:51, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
...err I guess you have a point :-/ Redwolf24 (talk) 03:54, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually I have two, point you got the second one but not the first. Please remove the subpages from the main page, the idea of a subpage is to not clog up the main page, so having most of the subpages displayed on the main page is kind of a self-defeating purpose. -JCarriker 04:09, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Taken care of. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:14, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
One more thing. Most of my work took place before I was a mediator, and many o those consultations were and are private, but for an open informal example of a mediation I began on my own initative, see Talk:Eleanor Roosevelt#Some notes. -JCarriker 05:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Not too shabby! Now I'm off to bed. See ya Jay. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:12, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy edits. Alphaxτεχ 03:36, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Strange that you mention that as I've been using one for most of my last 200 edits, I've been minding those today... Redwolf24 (talk) 03:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
LOL, I copyedited Mirmo! a while back. That thing has SOOO many links - there has to be something like 50 there. If you think that's bad I already removed like 30 more, as there were links pointing to like every manga and colorbook available for it. The funny part is that I put sectcleanup on there with a usual WP:NOT a link farm statement, only to see the anon remove that and ONE link. LOL. Ryan NortonT | @ | C 07:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Eeek. WikiYellowPages. Redwolf24 (talk) 08:31, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you! I will make sure to feed him plenty of children to keep him fit and healthy. Why did you say the 1337 award? It's a spider... --Celestianpowerhablamé 08:26, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I just typed == 1337 award == then I went around looking for an interesting picture to use, and I chose none other than the spider. It's a great spider :D Redwolf24 (talk) 08:31, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Everyone needs a bit of randomness in their life... --Celestianpowerhablamé 08:40, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Anywho I like yours and FireFox's user pages! I can't seem to remember if it was me or Flcelloguy who had the Trading Spaces idea. According to the history it was me, though I may have taken it from a talk page he wrote... Redwolf24 (talk) 08:42, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah - that was great fun. Perhaps you should find someone to trade with... --Celestianpowerhablamé 08:48, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Not sure if I'm interested for the time being. Maybe later though. Redwolf24 (talk) 08:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Either no such recipient currently resides at User talk:Flcelloguy, or the recipient has blocked all spam using state-of-the-art technology filters. Your mail has been returned by the mail-bot. Thank you. --Postmaster General of Wikipedia
(OK, OK, just joking! I couldn't resist doing this, considering I put myself on the spamlist...)
Anyways why is your email disabled? I'm not a fan of that for a mediator. :-/ Redwolf24 (talk) 19:24, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I just temporarily disabled my email because there was a crazed guy making legal threats and mail-bombing everyone in sight, and since I was the one who protected the page he was angry about (Jack Sarfatti), I disabled my email just to be safe. I think it's safe to re-enable now, and I've done so. Thanks for reminding me, though! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 19:34, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
No problem. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:37, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Can you do me a favor and restore my user page and talk page? I requested they be deleted becasue I had grown entirely frustrated with the fancruft polluting the project (and thus undermining the well-intentioned contributions of others). But I've decided to just, against my better judgement, ignore it and keep working with the editors who want to help improve the Wikipedia. My talk page can be restored ot whatever the last edit was, but could you restore the user page to the edit from 12:55, 24 September 2005 (which I still need to edit again anyways)? Thanks. --FuriousFreddy 23:42, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Taken care of. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:44, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you very much. --FuriousFreddy 23:53, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Hope you had a happy birthday during the last two days ago. So you are 15 years old, that young? I have said happy birthday to you on your birthday on your talk page, in-case you didn't see it because I know there are a lot of people sending you complaints and other sorts of things. -- Mike Garcia | talk 00:28, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
I saw it, and I appreciate it. Sorry I didn't reply, but there was about 40 happy birthday comments :P Redwolf24 (talk) 02:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Since, I've yet to see you confirm the 15 year old thing, I'm inclined to believe its just a mistake inspired by someone counting the candles on a stock cake borrowed from birthday. So how about it, are you really that young? You know, I bet you aren't even red OR a wolf either. I do hope you enjoyed your birthday though. Dragons flight 05:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Yup, 15. And it was a great birthday. :) Redwolf24 (talk) 06:17, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh well then. It is interesting how the project to organize all the world's knowledge is falling, in no small part, to children that most of the world would hardly ever take seriously in real life. Keep up the good work. Dragons flight 02:17, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Wikitopia, all races sexes religions and ages living in harmony. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I left a responce on my talk page but if u didnt see here is my responce. It was Secret opps lol I Was checking for pages in the Recent Changes to revert vandalism when I stummbled across it. U should really try for it u probaly will get promoted and if u do Good Luck! And Ty for your reponce --JAranda | yeah 04:11, 2 October 2005 (UTC) And also do u know how to create a subpage Im trying to List my AFD views but I somehow cant Ty if u can help And oh you are 15 wow your younger than I might have expected given how good of a user u are. Happy Very Late Birthday :) --JAranda | yeah 04:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'll list how to make a subpage at your talk ;-) Redwolf24 (talk) 04:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Wow! Ty for that fast responce --JAranda | yeah 04:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
No prob. Its all about interaction. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. BTW, Copperchair is going through all the star wars articles and reverting them over and over. A Man in Black has had to put a protection on the ESB page because of him changing the pages. The Wookieepedian 07:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi RedWolf, i just want to say sorry for those picture copyright violations, i'm still getting used to having to state copyright details for pictures. And i'm sorry I simply posted copied text. I'll make sure that what i add fits with the rules from now on.
Sorry for any inconvience or anything it may have caused.
I posted this earlier, but it was most likely lost in the barrage of birthday wishes that immediately followed. Here it is again. I realize I can't do anything to prevent it, but I hope we can have this conversation without Taxman involvement. For whatever reason, he and I don't communicate well.
As you are now my "mentor," would you explain to me the reasoning for my "privilege" to link to my online articles being revoked? I haven't seen much in the way of explanation, just promised to ban me if I don't obey. Why would such links from my user page be bad for WP? Or, is the privilege removal meant more as negative reinforcement for me, rather than an attempt to protect WP? If that is the case, what are the terms of my sentence? Uriah923 18:51, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Links to articles you've written is fine, but did any of them involve the phrase ON in any incarnation? If so, then that's your problem. Redwolf24 (talk) 18:53, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
My dear Redwolf, I simply wanted to drop by now that my RfA is closed to give you a big THANK YOU! for your kind support. I hope that we continue to be in contact in the future, and you have in me a new friend. Hugs! ShauriYes babe? 19:15, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
No problem :) Redwolf24 (talk) 19:25, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Are these articles (Category:Glitter characters) neccessary? i've had serious problems with these users and Mariah Carey fancruft. Being that Glitter is only a minor film, do its characters warrant articles of their own, or should they be merged someplace? --FuriousFreddy 22:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Bleh, that IS crufty. We definitely have too much Ashlee Simpson and Mariah Carrey cruft. Way too much. However, the category isn't hurting anyone. If you want to merge the characters to the main movie, feel free (but only if each character's page is short) after being merged the category could be deleted. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
This page has been recreated and I'm not sure how to proceed. I independently started an Afd
and then discovered it had been through the process before. Perhaps Greg Roskopf
created by the same user should also be Afd'd? Dlyons493Talk 22:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Deleted both. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:47, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
I really am appreciative of your help on my RfA, not least of which was pushing me to actually do it, and nominating me. Thank you! --Maru(talk) 23:58, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
No prob, my batting average remains 1000 ;-) Redwolf24 (talk) 00:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I would be really grateful if you could speedily delete the vandalised version of my userpage at Richard Moloney. It's wrecking my head that someone did this, and I would be so thankful if an admin would sort it out. Thanks in advance. RMoloney 00:20, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Taken care of. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:22, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
You're a star! (That's Irish for thanks, by the way) RMoloney 00:32, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
No problem at all. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Glad to see someone taking a little charge, and keeping the tasks box updated. I much appreciate your request and will take it under consideration. -St|eve 03:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
K, I hope you return as I've reactivated the medcom and now every editor has a case assigned (except myself, I finished my mediation quickly) and I could use some of those of you on a leave to return. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm at my wit's end in trying to deal with the glut of heavily biased and infactual articles on Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, and several other pop singers. The editors' actions in making all of these articles have gone unchecked, and are establishing bad precedents that are steadily decreasing NPOV coverage of music in the WIkipedia. I have talked to one of them until I was blue in the face (and had wasted an entire Friday evening) to no avail; he thinks I'm "jealous" of "his" articles. What can be done about this, or is the matter truly a lost cause? --FuriousFreddy 04:26, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Nothing you really can do, but if you quit, they win... Redwolf24 (talk) 04:27, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah - just take a week break from those kind of articles. Ryan NortonT | @ | C 04:33, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
But if I don't quit, and there's nothing I can do about...what's the point of not quitting? But if I do quit, I am (admittedly) letting them win, the floodgates are gonna burst open, and pretty soon it will be okay to have articles that read "OMIGODBRITNEYISTHEBESTSINGEREVER!!@$!$!$!#!!!!!" and such. Ack. Can we do some sort of policy-setting, something to bring this stuff in line? --FuriousFreddy 06:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Listen, think of it this way. I spend (or I guess spent since I'm on an self-imposed wikibreak from those pages right now) a lot of time cleaning up autism-related pages. Basically, the POV of those pages could get throttled to one side of the argument. There are several people who frequent these pages, some even from the organizations in question themselves! So, obviously there are going to be some bias here - and it can feel pretty lonely battling these people for a NPOV as the argument is so polarized and for the most part most people there are just trying to get publicity for thier organization etc. (they seem to think having a seperate page for thier organization is paramount... the same thing happens with original research too). It can be really hard dealing with those kind of people but hopefully over time you can reason with them... the important thing is to not let it degenerate into an edit war, otherwise its bad for everyone. As morbid as it sounds, the best way to deal with issues like this is to just sit back and edit occasionally... eventually you'll either be able to get some help from someone, or just outlast the most egregious POV pushers. You could try wikipedia things like mediation... but especially with the kind of people that frequent the autism-related pages etc. you may not get far. The important thing is to stay detached from it all - you can always run it in your userspace or on a local copy of a wiki too. It really is one of the big flaws in the system, so to speak, so you need to try to work around it, otherwise its just going to make you stressed for no good reason, really. Ryan NortonT | @ | C 06:39, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I stole your "Leave me a Message" box, probably for the same reason you got it in the first place, because I'm welcoming newbies who might not know how to leave me a message otherwise. Let me know if you have a problem with this. (I left a message similar to this with Linuxbeak).
Since my last post was left unanswered, I'm going to try again...
I was wondering why the entry of Jimmy James Johnson was deleted?
I know it's based on a rewritten news clipping, but isn't better to have something than nothing? How could it otherwise be improved? Now there's not even a history about what happened to the guy.
- And yes, I'm new to Wikipedia. So a simple "..." isn't enough to make me understand what I've done wrong...
My reason would have to be the fact that its a hoax. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply.
- I'm now wondering how you reached the conclusion that it is a hoax?
OH! I thought this was someone else. When I saw the name it looked fake so that's why I assumed it was a hoax. here's the real reason I deleted it. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
The thing on mediation will be combined into this week's User:Ral315/News and notes, because I really don't have enough information to make it a stand-alone article. I would appreciate you looking at it and telling me if there were any mistakes or misinterpreted parts within the blurb itself.
Also, I've applied to join the mediation committee...I'm interested to hear your views on me joining the committee, good or bad.
Blank point to make it look like I have more to say than I really do.
May I please know why was my article “Social Technology” deleted? I am very new to this web publishing. After the debate on original content, I had altered the article to suit the needs of Wikipedia.
I hope to write many more articles for Wikipedia, so I need really to understand this.
Best regards,
Nirupma Kapoor
neeray 10:50, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
We have a system at wikipedia, if editors don't feel an article is particularly good, or on a notable subject, it is sent to AfD where people debate. If 2/3 or more of the editors say to delete, the article is deleted. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Why was "Findology" deleted again. The first time, I understand. I just wasn't aware of what should and shouldn't be on Wikipedia. But why this time? We didn't even put that information up and it obviously had no advertising type wording. You can contact me at aaron@findology.com. Thanks.
Cause it was voted as such. Spam probably. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi there, I've been trying to move the page Edgar Varese because it is spelled wrong, the composer was called Edgard with a d at the end. However I can't because the page with the correct name exists as a redirect to the mis-spelled one. I don't know how to get round this. The whole contents of Edgar Varese should be under the title Edgard Varese, and there should be no page called Edgar Varese as there was no such person.
I hope you are now as worked up as I am and as keen to see justice done. The poor man spent his whole life correcting the spelling, and now he's in the wrong place after his death. Dammit. And he was teh father of 20th century music, his influence is in almost everything you hear.
Best regards
Robert Deas
I'll fix it for you, you are unable to do as such as you are not an admin, which you have to be to move to existing pages. I'll do so now, Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi there Redwolf24, Im Moe Epsilon. I am here to talk to you about the Esperanza Project. I just added myself to the list of members today and to the spamlist so I can get updates from the project. I just wanted to know, what can I do? Usually I could go to the project page or the project's talk page and find out whats going on and how I could help. Since you are the leader of the group, determined by the first few comments on the talk page, please give me some idea as to what to help with. Or, by the last comment on the talk page, should I go to Essjay so he could help me? Drop me a line on my talk page so we can discuss this matter. Later!
PS. I fixed the little problem above with Edgard Varèse.
Crap! I forgot to do that because of someone else's comment on this page who I was busy with... Thanks for the Edgard fix. I am no longer the leader of Esperanza, I have passed the buck to my good friend Essjay. I am too busy with other things at wikipedia, and if I do too much I may just burn out. Esperanza, there's not too much you can do to help, as there's not too much we need to do. You can feel free to comment at WP:ESP/P's talk page on what you think is good and what you think is bad. Stay in touch. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
OK, that's fine with me. They've done a look for the MedCom, and I appreciate that; it's just that I felt that that subject was straying from the topic of the blurb. News and notes is intended to be concise, short paragraphs, and I really didn't see how WP:TINMC added to the blurb and didn't think it was relevant. But I don't mind either way — however, the final decision should rest with Ral, as 1) he wrote the article and 2) he's the editor-in-chief. Thanks, though! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:06, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
No prob. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I copyedited and reworded it somewhat. I agree now that TINMC is relevant; the way Ral worded it did not contribute to the topic, but the current version looks fine. In the future, you may want to save Ral the trouble and write the article yourself. :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:13, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Heya, I've removed the last few not-quite-fair-use images from your user page and status template, hope you don't mind. You might want to rephrase your status template (or even better, find a free groundskeeper willy image if such a beast exists), as it's a bit odd without the image. --fvw* 00:23, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
I missed the Fonzie pic. As for the McCondom it doesn't say fair use, and it looks like an amateur photograph, so chances are its GFDL. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Oops, right you are about McCondom, though I don't know how long that will last without a source. Thanks for your understanding. --fvw* 00:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
I need u to place Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pemberton Avenue into the deletion log. Im an AOL user and one of those IP - 205.188.116.196 got blocked for a while few days I think so I cant place that in for now but still could edit everything else U are one person I trust and I need u to do me that favor. Ty --JAranda | yeah 00:23, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Will do so. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi. You were involved in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Votes for undeletion#The scope of VfU which looked to establish a Deletion Review process in place of VfU. There is now a discussion about how we might construct the mechanics of such a process. The current proposal suggests that debates be relisted on AfD if there is a majority of editors wanting to overturn the debate (usually on procedural grounds) and that the alternative result be implemented if it is supported by three-quarters of editors. Please call by Wikipedia talk:Votes for undeletion/Deletion review proposal when you can to discuss. Thanks. -Splashtalk 02:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, can't think of anything to suggest. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I as you could possibly read from my userpage, am trying to be a good editor. From what you can see if you would care to look do you think I'm a pretty good editor, I think I'm an okay editor. I'm just trying to be better, like right now I'm beginning to write articles again, like I used to. I'm just wondering what you think of me, since I think of you as like "the big great editor". Private Butcher 02:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Also if you could give me a few tips on how to be a better editor, since I know I'm just an okay editor. That would be helpful, thanks. Private Butcher 02:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, I honestly haven't seen Red edit that much so I can't say too much of him as an editor, but he's a fantastic admin! Basically, you should try to get one article as good as you can over a couple of weeks, then send it to peer review (WP:PR). After a couple weeks to a month there when you think its ready send it to FAC (WP:FAC) - you'll get some harsh, but accurate and quite helpful criticism on how to improve your articles there and often at peer review. Ryan NortonT | @ | C 02:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
I'd second those comments, and remember to be kind to all users. Also, try to follow WP:1RR. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:55, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, I'm going to take your advice. Private Butcher 03:08, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
I couldn't figure out which barnstar to give you for your Ashida Kim blockage, so I figured -- when in doubt, go with hungry bears... Karmafist 04:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Ah no, I never blocked that account, I blocked an anonymous IP of his for 61 years for endangering Jimbo. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:34, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I blocked one of those accounts yesterday, and hand restored 1001 edits to Jimbo's page so the info wouldn't be in the history... -- Essjay · Talk 04:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
There, now I blocked him indefinitely. I am so rouge. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Why would you speedy the article in its current version? The only reason I can think of is if it is a hoax. But then, the diffs can be deleted, can't they? Titoxd(?!?) 04:53, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Would you also agree that this: [[45]] is vandalism? Can nothing be done to prevent this anon user OR sockpuppet, whichever, from popping in and vandalizing legitimate edits? Isn't the user guilty of the "3RR" rule? Curious..... Lone Odessan 07:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
There is discussion on the talk page over whether the addition is accurate or not. Until consensus develops over whether it is a legitimate addition or not, it should not be labeled as vandalism. It may, however, be removed to the talk page for continued discussion, and if it is continually re-added, the article can be locked. The three revert rule applies equally to all, but only applies to more than three reverts in a twenty-four hour period; that IP has only made three additions in a twenty four hour period, thus unless the information is removed and re-added in the next twelve hours or so, no 3RR will have occurred. Be aware, however, that since the text is under consideration (and thus not vandalism), if you remove it more than three times in twenty four hours, you will be equally guilty of 3RR. There are already three administrators in on the discussion: BMIComp, *fvw, & Hall Monitor, and I suggest you leave the administrative actions (3RR blocks, page protection) to them. -- Essjay · Talk 14:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Your Eminence,Cardinal of the Wiki-Catholic church,I have decided that we nominate Kappa as an admin.He or she is a really great helper to all and a good example.Please consider this offer.Tdxiang 11:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Kappa had a previous RfA in June that ended in no consensus, and one on September 29th that he declined; be sure to get his consent before nominating him. -- Essjay · Talk 14:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, do you have the link for any policy on closed discussions for Afd and such? Having an issue with another admin wanting to change a closed discussion. Dont' have time for an edit war, especially with another admin (much less think its worth it). Just couldn't find anything covering it, thought I read it before though. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 19:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Closures that you don't agree with go to WP:VfU. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Yea, I know about VfU :) thanks. Actually I meant policy on other users editing previously closed discussions. But it's not a big deal now, I just needed info for future occurences. ∞Who?¿? 00:20, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
As you requested, I've answered the questions in my RfA, so if you'd like to read my answers and change your Neutral vote to a Support or an Oppose, I'd appreciate it! (And if you have any additional questions for me, I'd be happy to answer.) - Brian Kendig 21:41, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Could u Unblock 205.188.117.7 its a AOL IP number and one of the 2 Im using now so i cant edit into late tommorrow. --JAranda | yeah 00:13, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Unblocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:18, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Ty I need to get out of AOL so I wont get that again :) --JAranda | yeah 00:20, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
The nomination was quite the shock! I mentioned how long I was actively editing for full disclosure... I hope you don't mind :\. Thanks! Ryan NortonT | @ | C 00:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I missed one! Taken care of. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:56, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! While you're being helpful, could you have a look at List of Australians in international prisons too, a new user (same one as the author of the page you just created but logged in I think) insists on inserting an external link to a campaign site there. --fvw* 02:02, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Bloody hell, I see I've broken the 3RR there, for shame. Feel free to enforce a 24h wikibreak if you feel it's appropriate. --fvw* 02:03, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Ohnoes!!! But yep, its fair. Both of you take a break :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:08, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
That is, that's the username. I'm not claiming it was actually RMS nominating it. --fvw* 03:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't think that the username was referring to that, as Richard M. Stallman isn't too famous, and it doesn't seem like a rare name. However I DO think it was a bad faith nom. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:47, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
You don't? GNAA=slashdot trolls. One of slashdot's strong focuses is linux. I think we've had a few vandal/troll accounts named after him before. --fvw* 03:52, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Are you sure you want to run for arbcom? I mean you're the chair of the mediation comittee and so much other stuff! Just don't want you to get overloaded :). You have my support of course :). Ryan NortonT | @ | C 03:49, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, that's probably going to overload you. On other news, if you're going to run for Esperanza's Advisory Committee, you might want to add your name to the list, because it's not there anymore (it was removed when you crossed it out). Titoxd(?!?) 04:56, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm not burning out any time soon. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I saw your name when I was reading about admins and reading on Wikipedia policy and procedures. Can I go to you for questions when I want to ask something about policy etc.? --Shelburne Kismaayo 03:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
You bet. Or me, as well. --Maru(talk) 04:13, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
I am now composing a proper article for Stephen John Sutton. I have read the guidelines for 'your first Wikipedia entry.'
I noticed that some other people have attempted to make an entry about Sutton in the past, but these articles were deleted. I am unable to see what was written in the past. I do not wish to make the same mistakes.
Sutton is noteworthy because it is probable that he was targeted to become an unwitting drug mule because of a mental impairment. He had a brain tumour removed at age 15 which left him with a simple and over-trusting nature. He has an inordinate desire to please others and was known to go to unusual lengths in this pursuit. Sutton was working in Sydney, Australia and it is believed he met a Peruvian girl at his place of employ. Stephen wound up in Peru, living with the Peruvian girl and her family. Stephen sent a letter to his sister in Australia indicating that he was in Peru and that the girl's family were treating him well. On 4 September 2003, Stephen was arrested in Argentina (with no drugs in his possession), and was charged with drug trafficking. His sister found out about the arrest through an Australian TV news report. Australian consular officials (Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade - DFAT) have since been difficult and evasive with his family in Australia. DFAT have not provided appropriate medical care and legal asistance to Stephen. He is known to have medical problems which require urgent care.
Is this enough justification for a Wikipedia entry? Am I on the right track?
Thanks again for your assistance. --Diana Elgar 05:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I'd say it is IMO. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi again Redwolf24, thanks for your help on this matter. Please visit the Stephen John Sutton entry. There are some bullies now trying to have my entry deleted. One of them, who identifies as "Robert Frost" of a non-existent organisation he calls "OSE Prisoners Dispute Services U.K." is posting from IP address 144.131.198.139. This IP is assigned to Telstra in Brisbane, Australia, which happens to be the location of Kay Danes and Tony Fox of Foreign Prisoner Support Services (FPSS). FPSS is also the organisation which has been spamming their URL (http://foreignprisoners.com) all over the List of Australians in international prisons entry. Please see the edit made by "Robert Frost" at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Australians_in_international_prisons&diff=24934445&oldid=24227584
Thanks again, --Diana Elgar 00:43, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
hi redwolf24
umm..well, first, I'm a new user. I came across your userpage somehow, and just decided to write to you. Well, actually the thing is that, I have just written my first article..on Igor Andreev..and I just wanted someone to look at it and let me know if I've gone about the right way. I'll be really obliged if you could look at the page once.
Thanks a ton! --Aabha R 14:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
It is pretty good; I fixed up one or two stylistic problems, but other than that it looks good to me. Well done. (BTW: you should probably set up a user page. Red links make people nervous and a wee bit suspicious.) --Maru(talk) 15:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for having a look, and replying. Appreciate it! And thanks for the tip about the user page! Aabha R 19:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Maru for taking that. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
04:06, 3 October 2005 Redwolf24 m (Chris Floyd - Empire Burlesque moved to Chris Floyd)
the move had been requested but the article's creator (who also requested the move) went ahead and made a new article at Chris Floyd that, in our opinions, had looked much better. is there any way to get that version back? Nateji77 16:25, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I restored the deletion, so weed through the history and find it. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Matt. Thanks for promoting me. I'd warn you, though, that I'm off on holiday in ten days' time, so I won't be able to mediate anything until I get back. Hope this is okay. Looking forward to working with you! Cheers, [[Sam Korn]] 22:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
No problem, I'll assign you a case when you get back. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Calm down, children, and be nice... ;) Titoxd(?!?) 04:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Children please blocking is not a game. -JCarriker 04:54, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Because the comment was posted after the page-move, I didn't even realise until I saw it on AN/I. Missed out on all the fun :( Guettarda 14:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
It's apparently been blown into a lot more than it ever should have; there are days when I wonder why we bother at all. -- Essjay · Talk 18:28, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Please give yourself a Noogie for 17 seconds for being a rogue admin. Friday(talk) 18:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Morons over at WP:AN/I are accusing you of being WOW. I've leapt to your defense as have a few others, but thought you might want a heads up. Agriculture 14:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! I will be sure and do that. Have a good one.Shelburne Kismaayo 22:28, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
What? You're withdrawing from the ArbCom elections because of this? Oh, come on, man, that's even worse than feeding the trolls! It's better to have someone with humor than a robot working at RFAr. Titoxd(?!?) 22:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Don't say feeding the trolls as I happen to highly respect Curps and Sjakkale. Yes I'm withdrawing after their advice. I didn't have much of a chance anyway. I could go on with reasons, but I really don't want to. Cheers. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
I wasn't calling them trolls, as they're good admins, but I was rather making a reference to trolling itself. But I seriously urge you to reconsider. Titoxd(?!?) 22:54, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
I have blatantly stolen your traffic lights for my own page.
You might want to change the purge link to:
<span class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=purge}} <small> (Purge Server Cache)</s>]</span>
This will get rid of the external link flag, and will let you trasclude it to both your user page and your talk page, automagically getting the purge link right for both locations. --GraemeL(talk) 15:39, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Or you can use {{purge|Insert link text here}}... Alphaxτεχ 01:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Just wondering why you withdrew yourself from the arbcom nominations. I thought you'd make a good arbitrator. — Ilγαηερ(Tαlκ) 22:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh never mind I read above...Well sorry about that and good luck with everything else you do :D — Ilγαηερ(Tαlκ) 22:59, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Perfectly percolated Esperanza blend coffee, just for you!
Don't let this triviality get you down, and don't let it dissuade you from aspiring to better serve this community. As you have often said, every time we lose a good user (whether they quit outright, or refuse to serve because they have been bitten savagely by others) the idiot quotent goes up. This is far below you, and I refuse to allow this to bring down a great contributor like yourself. I simply will not allow it. Now, drink this coffe, and go re-post your nomination. GO! -- Essjay · Talk 23:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf24, please understand that you are a valued contributor here, and all your work is deeply appreciated. As I said to Essjay earlier, go enjoy your Wiki-Break — God knows you deserve it — but make sure you rejoin us, refreshed and ready. I sincerly hope to see you soon. Regards, Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes, please don't let a couple of lunatics get your down. Feel free to take a short break, but DON'T LEAVE ME HERE ALONE ;) — Ilγαηερ(Tαlκ) 23:59, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Short breaks are always good, but be sure to come back quickly, ok? Remember that you're valued at Wikipedia. But have you drank Essjay's coffee already? It's his special Esperanzian brew... how can you refuse it? ;) Titoxd(?!?) 00:03, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh noes! It's Redwolf24 on wheels!
Ah, we all need breaks now and then. You have an awesome sense of humor, but some people can't take some kinds of jokes (I'm guilty of that myself sometimes). Here's a barnstar because I appreciate your humor. Enjoy your wikibreak. Hermione1980 00:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, let me second that. Sometimes, things get blown out of proportion. In my opinion, you should still run for ArbCom. Don't change, go wikify something, and then come back soon! We need you! Bratschetalk | Esperanza 00:12, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Have a cookie to go with that coffee.
I stayed a little longer at school than I usually do, and I just came home to find you burned out? Redwolf, don't let that ordeal chase you off (well, I know you said you weren't leaving for good, but still...) You're a very genuine, kind person, and I hate to see you leave so abruptly. I truly meant what I said when I gave you my RfA thank you and belated happy birthday; you're that good of an admin. In the meantime, take a short break, collect your thoughts, come back, and post your ArbCom nomination again. I will support you the minute you repost it. Robert 00:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Burned out over this little joke? While maybe it didn't show the best judgment, the community has certainly overreacted. Y0u(Y0ur talk page)(Y0ur contributions) 01:34, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
As you know, I'm one of the most paranoid anti-WoWers there is, and although I didn't find out about it until later, I find what you did very amusing. I think we need more of your good humour. Alphaxτεχ 01:59, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Not being a very touchy feely type, still wanted to tell you to simply take a break and don't let stuff get under your skin. You've been kind of moving in a meteoric rate so perhaps slow things down a bit and just do some simple RC Patrol.--MONGO 02:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf. Sorry that I felt the need to "disendorse" your arbitration candidacy... it was perhaps more a reaction made in anger rather than one of clear thinking. Give it a few weeks, and that kind of thing will blow over. I still think your a great person to have on board. Sjakkalle(Check!) 08:53, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Please don't drop your candidacy! I'll still vote for you. I don't see the big deal about what you did. Sorry about all the stress. ~~ N (t/c) 19:08, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi - I'm just wondering why you reverted edits by User:129.44.7.15 on Phil Hendrie on Oct. 7. I didn't want to revert back that user's edits until I consulted you. It's cool either way, I know that page is vandalized a lot, but it didn't look like vandalism. Thanks, FranksValli 04:24, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Thought you might want to know, if you didn't already, that blocked User:Tern appears to be editing somewhat regularly as User:193.39.159.3. He's been deleting text claiming copyvio -- but I think it's that he is trying to remove his previous contributions from Wikipedia. Cheers -- ManekiNeko | Talk 12:22, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf24, as stated above, I sincerly hope you'll come back soon. In the meantime, though, we're missing a chair at the MedCom! I hope you don't mind if I ask MGM to come back to his position as chair while you're enjoying your Wiki-break and getting refreshed; we do need a chair, as WP:RfM is active again, thanks to you. :-) I'm sure MGM wouldn't mind taking the position temporarily, but do make sure to come back to us soon! Hoping to see you again, Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:12, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
(Rejoices) I just heard Essjay say that you're going to be back tomorrow at the latest, so never mind. I'm sure WP:RfM won't suffer that much... ;-) I'll be the first to welcome you back (on wheels), then! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:15, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Yay, you're back!!!! :) Titoxd(?!?) 01:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Nope, not yet. Probablty will be in a few hours, or tomorrow... I'm lounging around at IRC though. And I am checking my watchlist. See you later! Redwolf24 (talk) 01:31, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Nah, you seem like a Sunshine State based String Instrumentalist to me ;-) . Anyhow, you think the comments on the various talk pages(Flcello and Kelly Martin) and the Medcom Page will help answer any doubts from that? You should get rid of that stop light, situations like these are why I don't use one, this place is too damn addictive to just quit. Karmafist 02:12, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Don't violate WP:BEANS, I'm very competitive and I will quit if you say that I'm not able to ;-P Mmmm Catch 22. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:15, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Yay, now you're back! Now I can lower my Wikistress meter. :) Welcome back! Titoxd(?!?) 19:47, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
lol, No Beans here. Sure, Wikipedia would suck alot more if you left for good, but i'm just thinking of all the newbies who will be looking at that stoplight and wondering why you aren't "there" ;-)
My guess is that you'd do that just so you can surprise block them for 1.2 seconds, reasserting your title as rouge-est admin in the universe..Karmafist 03:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
1.2 seconds? >xD /me goes off to delete the Main Page... Redwolf24 (talk) 04:02, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Redwolf24: I would like to thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I am most honoured by the trust that has been placed in me by yourself and other members of the Wikipedia community; I shall use my administrative privileges only to assist the community in doing good work, and bringing peace to the wiki. I also promise to be calm, considerate and careful in working to make Wikipedia a better place. Your company on IRC is, as always, a true pleasure, and your kind words about me are greatly appreciated - I had no idea I was so well regarded by such a large number of people. Once again, thank you; I am sure I shall see you around IRC. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk)(e-mail)(cabal) 02:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I greatly appreciate you watching my back by reverting that edit to my user page. Do yourself a favor and enjoy your break. I can't say I blame you. :) - Lucky 6.9 05:05, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Red :) - any idea how to explain to someone that neoligism doesn't belong on wikipedia? Someone is threatning to "report me to an admin" if I remove the neoligism from the article again, see Talk:Autistic_culture (Note: wikitionary word was made by the same person). Person also accused me of biting newbies both on their talk page and through two seperate private e-mails :-(. Ryan NortonT | @ | C 16:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Just tell them that we try to keep a certain level of integrity and we prefer to use words you can find in a dictionary. Whether it be at www.dictionary.com or Webster's. ...By the way is the neologism you mean 'Aspie'? cause I see that word around so much I'd say its legit... Redwolf24 (talk) 19:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
No, it's 'Aspiette'. Which is the coinage of one person (she admits it) and has not, so far as I can see, been picked up elsewhere. ManekiNeko | Talk 00:04, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Since you're Esperanza's official spamster, you might want to consider Bratsche's suggestion on the Elections talk page. He's asking if it would be a good idea to send a message to all our members telling them about the election, since they might not have the Esperanza pages watchlisted, and don't know about the election as a result. Titoxd(?!?) 17:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I'll tell the spam list, but not every member. I said I'm not gonna spam them unless they want it, and I know a lot of members don't want to vote. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually, no, I won't. A lot of them have voted and I don't want to spam them again, wasting my time and theirs. What I WILL do though, which is just as effective, is put in red font at the top of WP:ESP a notice of the elections. Every member should have that watchlisted. Redwolf24 (talk) 19:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the update, new to this will read more on the FAQ sorry for the disruption!!
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.237.211 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 8 October 2005
Ah, no problem. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:08, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank You for your support in MY RFA but Im going to withdrewing it and I wont do a self-nomination no more . I just make u or Essjay or anybody else nominate me later probaly in Late November the earliest when I reach the Golden 3 month status or 2000 edits. I knew it was too soon and I knew I wasn't going to be a admin too early it was more of a try and see where I stand vote and It was late also and I had a annoying vandal in my face so I wasn't really thinking much nither. And oh yeah Welcome back How was your wikibreak. --JAranda | yeah 22:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
twas good. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:19, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Im having problems with the servers here and thats what is limiting my edits right now especially that Im trying to expand NFL football stubs and catigorising them which going to take me more than a week to do and I need all the time I could get. Do u know if the same thing with the servers are happening right now to other users including u or only me. Thanks --JAranda | yeah 02:07, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes, they're slow for the time being, that's all. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:13, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Now its a bit faster but now I can't barley edit at all I got d/c and got this blocked IP number 205.188.116.195 as my main AOL IP number for the time being and I could only edit talk pages. Could u please unblock it I really appriciated --JAranda | yeah 02:24, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Unblocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:27, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf, thanks for asking me to take on the above mediation. I'd be pleased to give it my best shot, and I'm honored that you asked. Do you have any links you can forward me regarding guidelines for mediators, or anything else I should know? Cheers, SlimVirgin(talk) 03:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
You are a lifesaver. See your talk. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf, the disputes I had with Idleguy have been resolved, I think. As for Terrorism in Pakistan, it has reached a point I think which is as neutral as it can get considering both sides (please see talk page and the edit history of the article). I have compromised fairly.
As for State Terrorism, you can look at the edit history on seeing the clear POV that was being added by Idleguy. It was basically a whitewash attempt of the India section and an attempt at POVing the Pakistan section. The initial editor involved was User:Deepak gupta and I had a compromise with him (see [User [46]) and we both agreed even though he shared the same POV as idleguy. Idleguy reverted immediately despite my agreement with gupta, thus indicating that he was only here only to insert POV. I have tried compromises with Idleguy, but he refuses to agree. I have refrained from making changes to the state terrorism article now and hope that Idleguy will too. See the edit history of that article for details.
I can only hope that Idleguy will work productively and neutrally in the future.
Thanks, a.n.o.n.y.mt 03:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
You still seem to have a dispute with Idleguy... mediation is always open! Redwolf24 (talk) 04:01, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
See? I solved it already. ;-D SlimVirgin(talk) 04:09, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
You know me SV. It's not in my best interest to dispute for long. It takes two or more to dispute and I usually work in the most disputed of articles. You might be seeing a lot more of me redwolf. :) --a.n.o.n.y.mt 04:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Well Slim, if you thouoght that was fun, join us :P Redwolf24 (talk) 04:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
So redwolf are we fine then? --a.n.o.n.y.mt 04:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, but now how the heck do I make the other 50 or so mediators involved in the case aware that this is over? --a.n.o.n.y.mt 04:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
o.O next time just go to WP:RFM and file a case. The only mediators involved will be me and whoever I assign you, plus you'll have people with experience. How do you tell them? User talk pages will do... Redwolf24 (talk) 04:23, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
That's great about Jimbo liking my name, now if I can get a supermodel to say the same thing, I'll be all set ;-)
Speaking of which, and no offense to Essjay or anything, but I changed the name "Poll" to "Election" just because a "Poll Worker" sounds like the long lost member of the Village People, and I just can't handle that consider how much of a Sausage Fest Wikipedia seems like lately. Dammit, where are my Wiki-hookers!?!
I'm not going to preview, but I am going to laugh my ass off if Sausage Fest isn't redlinked...Karmafist
Haha, its bluelinked, and I've seen it before. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:25, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
So I'm back and I promise to be good and not make too much stupid article. I was jst wondering how you blocked me fro so long and such, i mean is that proper? No hard feeling though!Wiki brah 03:59, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Let me tell you this now, most people wanted to indefinitely block you, so you should thank me. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:04, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, but it didn't look like any of those 7 opposed you because you tried to help them out and failed miserably at it. Eh, it's not a big deal. Fadix is just a small drip of water coming out of a crack that feels like the crumbling dam of my life right now. Karmafist 04:56, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
I have my share of people who I've tried to help and failed, I am a mediator after all. Well none of my med cases have resulted in that, but in other places it happens a lot. I'm often volunteering to mentor people (as of right now I'm mentoring User:Uriah923, User:Copperchair, and Wiki brah. I know it sucks, but don't get yourself down. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:06, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Ah, good, I always like to get approval before being a pest.
So, on to being a pest! Would you like to add yourself to the category? (normally I'd give instructions, but I'll figure you know)... Or are you not furry after all? :) --Bushytails 21:48, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
The people pursuing him are severely disturbed and it is my clinical opinion many of them are psychopaths and sociopaths with severe personality disorders.
And it is my considered opinion she should focus on her husband and heal him instead. If it is indeed his wife posting, which I doubt. Jeff has a history of trying to hide behind sockpuppets; but most parties involved are all too aware of that. --MJ(☎|@|C) 22:37, 9 October 2005 (UTC).
I'm just entertained that "she" thinks she can diagnose people from a Wikipedia page history. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 22:40, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm the chair of the medcom, and I'm only involved because I called the mediation frivolous, etc. I doubt the case will be accepted, and if it is it'll just be to make Merkey's ban formal. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't much appreciate you telling me to do my own homework problems but whatever. So, you say that in Europe during the middle ages they had a lot of wood? Like trees? I'm not quite sure how to site that on a map, but okay.
I asked Essjay this, and since he doesn't seem to be here, I'm going to ask you. I'm thinking about self-nominating myself for Adminship, which I said I would never do, which I really don't want to do, but I would like to be an admin, and I probably won't ever be nominated of course the reason for that would be because people think I wouldn't be a good one. Okay I think I'll do it on October 21st, so then I will of been here for 4 months. I just want to know in your opinion if I should, because if you say I shouldn't then I'll wait until sometime in 2006. I'm just wondering what you think even though I think I know your answer. PrivateButcher 01:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Definitely log in more edits and give it some time. After all that's been happening around you I don't think you have much chance. Wait til December-February after logging in a lot of edits and being kind to everyone you see. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:21, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Alright thanks, I guess I'll do it sometime in 2006, probably after I've been here for a year. Yeah, July 2006, I'll go for then, or probably sometime after that, I don't know. I want to be an admin but I can wait until I've been here for a year. Actually maybe I'm not admin material, I don't know, I'll figure out what to do when the time comes. PrivateButcher 01:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Yesterday I placed a whole chunk 26 to be exact of blank libeary catagories for speedy deletions but 1 day had passed and only one of them got deleted and one of them got expanded and the rest are still in speedy delete still wating for a deletion. Do you know if that mass nomintation was something I did wrong and were they speedy deletion canditates to begin with as well. Thanks --JAranda | yeah 01:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Make sure they fit WP:CSD. If they do you should have no problem. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
They do it says that Empty categories (no articles or subcategories) whose only content has consisted of links to parent categories and those are empty catagorys but its still taking too long for deletion Dont know why? --JAranda | yeah 01:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Then its cause admins arent looking over it. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:58, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, just as I suspected, he's signed the RfM and then refuses to abide by your injunction. Have a look at his recent edits. Argh. This is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place.--chris.lawson 02:17, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
My injunction has no authority, its just a good faith jesture, and I'll message him now. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:21, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah. I know. But this is typical. When someone makes a reasonable suggestion (like "Follow consensus, please") it gets ignored unless it has some kind of serious consequences associated with it. I figured by showing good faith and signing that mediation, it would have a calming effect, but Adam and Copperchair seem to be back at it again.--chris.lawson 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Let's wait until a final decision has been reached, shall we? Copperchair 02:57, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Redwolf24:
Thanks for the vote of support in my Esperanza AdCom quest. I know it was only an "equalizer" vote, but nevertheless, I'm appreciative of it. Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza 02:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks also for being an election staffperson. Everything looks sweet. Bratschetalk | Esperanza 02:51, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf, I tried using the Esperanza channel in IRC (I think you actually saw me there), but I wasn't able to say anything. It asked me to identify myself or something...do you know how I can do that? (I'm new to IRC -- I had always been a AIM user). Robert 03:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Type /nickserv register PASSWORDYOUPICKGOESHERE
Then type /nickserv identify SAMEPASSWORDHERE everytime you sign in. You can still talk. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. Robert 03:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I'm sure you don't know me, or have heard of me, or anything. I just wanted to say that, as a reader of WP:AN/I, I saw that whole silly kerfluffle. I've always respected you as someone who has a sense of humor, and is very, very nice. I like you, and I always will. If you want to joke around with someone, do it with me, and I'll laugh :). Here's a cookie:). Oh- I like messages too :).--SeanJelly Baby? 16:57, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
This is an exact copy of a message I posted on Catherine Munro's talk page:
I have begun the procedure to get mediation for the article titled "Aesthetic Realism." Aesthetic Realism is a philosophy that joins art and life in a new way. I hope my request will be successful, and that you will be able to mediate. According to the Wikipedia guidelines, I am supposed to get the agreement of my opponent so we both call for mediation. I am waiting for a reply but thought I would at least alert you to what is going on.
My username is Samivel. The opposing party consists of three (Michael Bluejay, Outerlimits, and Marinero) who all agree with each other. But I disagree vehemently with all three of them.
What I wrote on the Talk page for the article on Aesthetic Realism is this:
As I read how several individuals (Bluejay, Marinero, Outerlimits) are talking over how to misrepresent a valuable philosophy and the people who teach it, I also am calling for mediation.
I too think the article should be frozen at the point where responsible editors left it.
And therefore I will revert it to that point.
The first step in mediation is to ask the opposing party if it is willing to have mediation. Bluejay, Marinero, Outerlimits, are you willing to have mediation? [Signed]
If you look at the talk page you will see how these individuals talk amongst themselves. To me, it is chilling.
I will be glad to answer any questions you may have. --Samivel 21:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
This is for your information, Redwolf24, as chair of the committee. --Samivel 21:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
...The proper way to do this would be to list it at WP:RFM. But since you listed it at her page I'll let her do what she pleases... Redwolf24 (talk) 22:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey Red there had been a small conflect that Essjay is ver upset about. Its about this block of Mgstone that he placed a perminent (can't Spell) block on for vandalism and another admin objected and now he is very upset and even placed a RfC on himself. Is there anyway u can help --JAranda | yeah 22:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
I just had to tell you that I talk to you too much. :-) I didn't think so, but you're #10 on my ten most edited pages. Actually, I was hoping that you'd comment on the stats/charts I made cause I know you have your hand in many cookie jars and figured you would have some keen insight as to nice summary stats that can help make sense of things around here. (Oh yeah, I am embarrassed to say that I had no idea what 1337 was on your User page for weeks. | |\|0`/`/ </\|\| |^{/\[) |+.). >:Roby WayneTalk • Hist• E@ 22:57, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
I'll run that for you. I have to tweak my script a bit. Yours is the biggest so far so I want to make sure it is correct, first. I'll put it up as soon as I am done (oh, yeah, and after I eat dinner :-) ). >:Roby WayneTalk • Hist• E@ 23:23, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
You were close to 10,000...anyway, my script only handled 5,000, but now it handles more thanks to you. Take a look at your stats. I appreciate your comments. With regards, >:Roby WayneTalk • Hist • E@ 04:47, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm the very one. I taught Maru all about rougeness, though for the record I keep my rougeness away from AfD and use it more to block Ashida Kim IPs for 61 years ;-) Redwolf24 (talk) 23:20, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry if I dragged that one out into the light of day, but I had to mention it if I was going to do an honest job on the RFC. --GraemeL(talk) 23:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
I posted to the list about this a couple of days ago (you can read this in the archives if you remember your password). The digest is an automatic thing and has nothing to do with the list admins (of which I'm not one anymore). The digest is sent daily (the option "Should a digest be dispatched daily when the size threshold isn't reached?" is set to yes). The list is very low traffic, so it might be best just to set it to normal mails instead of the digest if you continue to have problems receiving it. Are you sure it's not just ending up in your spam filter? Angela. 23:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Heya, I'm just about wrapped up with my present case, so you can assign me another. WRT the mailing list, another admin wouldn't make the list more lively -- the list is unmoderated for members. That said, if you want to be an admin for the list, I don't mind. --Improv 23:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Here is the worst actor in the history of Wikipedia, bar none. Any help would be appreciated. We have over 400 pieces of evidence against this guy. That's 400. For a man who has been here a month. --Woohookitty 23:42, 10 October 2005
Holy hell! Seems like a ban would be clearcut... I myself probably would have blocked for disruption. Now then, why are you so affected by it? I deal with trolls often, but that's never what stresses me, the only stress I get is when someone respected seems to target me. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:48, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
BD is a special case, trust me. We're talking stuff like...he has a "ban list" on his talk page. He literally took some comments I made on his page and moved them onto my page. He's a card. --Woohookitty 00:10, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Can I kiss you? :-D Just so you know, BD posted to his talk page right after he was blocked. I warned him about it. If he posts again, think it's time for a longer suspension. --Woohookitty 00:35, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm an admin but I'm directly involved, so I can't do it, but I think it's time we permanently block Mr. Big Daddy. [47]. The thing is Redwolf, he will keep posting. He just doesn't care. He will ignore the block and keep posting. He's shown absolutely no respect for Wikipedia. I think it's time to send him on his marry way. And we have SO MUCH evidence, I don't think people will question it. If you don't think so, let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woohookitty (talk • contribs)
Blocked him before you posted that ;-) Redwolf24 (talk) 00:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
We may have to literally delete his username. Like I said, he's the worst actor I've ever dealt with...same with katefan and Kate basically just does the dreck of Wikipedia. --Woohookitty 00:57, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Pretty sure that edith is a sockpuppet of bigdaddy. And I'm pretty sure Qwerty1/Q1werty/Q2werty were as well. He keeps busy. --Woohookitty 01:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Doubt it. Different M.O.'s. Qwerty=Edith, definitely. But the two were editing at like the same time (BD and Q) so I doubt they're related. I blocked q1werty and q2werty which is why I've been targeted. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:12, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I blocked edith. Certain it's a sockpuppet of BD since he/she nailed my user talk page. This can't be a coincidence. --Woohookitty 01:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Well I guess that's plausible now that you mention it, also qwerty had nailed BD's page. I blocked edith indefinitely as soon as he posted here though ;-) Redwolf24 (talk) 01:12, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to say thanks too, RedWolf. I was getting very tired of posting evidence. - Mr. Tibbs 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Me too! I know you weren't following this, redwolf, but I put evidence onto the evidence page about him alterting posts of other people's posts...and he continued to do it. It's just a bit draining. --Woohookitty 02:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Could u unblock the AOL Ip number 205.188.116.68. Cant edit at all im using my neighbor computer for a sec Ty --JAranda | yeah 01:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Not right now, there's a troll wave and I don't want to unblock for the time being. Sorry. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:12, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I understand but for how long is the block for u know Im not a trool ;) and also su should think about archiving now ?
You're not a troll, but you share an IP with some trolls, so I'm not unblocking. IP blocks shouldn't last too long, I'll check how long it lasts. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:19, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Its not blocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah I told Fvw to unblock it. Im taking a wikibreak until I get out of AOL which is I dont know when Editing with AOL is becoming quite impossible and I feel like Im the only worthy contributer that uses a AOL account I will be back but with a new less trouble-some internet provider. Could u think of any? --JAranda | yeah 01:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Verizon has always been good IMO. You need some DSL. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah Im going to try to get DSL editing with AOL is a horrible idea here. Do u know anybody else that is not a troll that edit with AOL in here?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Aranda56 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 10 October 2005
I dunno about DSL, a couple of my friends have it, and I just find it so slow (I have cable, btw...it costs a fortune, but its SOFAST). I know of a couple users that aren't trolls that use AOL, but I guess it's pretty few. If you like AOL, and the comfort of not stepping outside of a little bubble, they offer BYOA (bring your own access...not the other thing), meaning if you provide the connection, they'll let you use the features, at something like $10 per month. I once used AOL in the days of old, before broadband, and they wouldn't stop calling me to re-sign up with them (they did eventually, but it took a few more than strong hints). But yeah, whatever you think is good, probably should be. Good luck with getting a faster plan, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 01:42, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
You might also want to take care of this little gem BigDaddy000 (talk·contribs), looks like a sleeper big daddy--64.12.116.10 01:23, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
This guy has been blocked by HappyCamper, and is now claiming he's "on Wheels", not to mention the (of little importance) copyvio of Merlin on his user page. I don't know what to do about it, but I've had my eye (and watchlist) on him for quite some time. Any help would be appreciated (on wheels). -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 01:48, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I'm busy at my RfC. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Ooh, that doesn't sound too good. Sorry bout that, and don't worry about getting to it. I'm not that bothered. Good luck with your RfC. -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 02:30, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm just curious, how did I fail there? I had a vast majority of Support comments, only one Oppose (Andre, who seems to be a perfectionist unable to forgive anyone for mistakes, I need to discuss and disagree with his beliefs on my beliefs, I am unable to just let it go now without knowing why he thinks the way he thinks), and endless patience with Ed Poor, shit, endless patience with everybody in the past few months.Karmafist 02:54, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Ok, so If I can convince Andre not to Oppose, then I get back up there? I assume that i'll be unable to though since it seems that Andre treats other mistakes on other people's reputations much like a Nuclear Bomb treats whatever it drops upon: annhiliating everything and causing it to be poisoned for an incredibly long time. I'm putting an edit on his talk page right now, and will probably use that quote. I tried to ask on IRC if there was any other way to understand him better, but there was nada.
Either way, i'm gonna ask for some clearer election procedures(It seems like I was up there forever), act as a "rouge mediator" whether i'm on there or not, and pretty much treat the Med Com overall (most of you individually, I have an insane amount of respect for) with a grain of salt in whatever they say until the selection procedures change. Karmafist 03:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I lowered my stress level. Now I'm back to Ben Giatti and the Price-Anderson Act case. Compared to Big Daddy, Ben is a saint. And the funny part? Ben's the exact opposite. He thinks Wikipedia is supporting big government and the nuke industry...basically that we're not liberal *enough*. --Woohookitty 03:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't care why it was awarded, what the motivation was, or anything else, you do a tremendous amount of work around here, and you deserve this. So I'm awarding it and I'll be damned if anybody is taking it away. -- Essjay · Talk 03:34, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
You deserve the Rougest Barnstar. My RfA should be over by now, but for some reason it hasn't been closed yet (wink:wink). If I had those admin powers, I'd block you for 1.5 seconds like Essjay as a rouge op, but I guess until then the "Bearnstar" will have to do with getting all medieval on those vandals. Thanks again for everything you've done, I can only hope to be as good of an admin as you starting mañana. I'm hitting the hay. Karmafist 05:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just posting a friendly notice stating that I have got Brain Teasers/Trivia on my user page that you're welcome to have a go at. Will post new questions one day after they have been answered. Thanks... Spawn Man 09:25, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Wow, I barely missed getting the lowest "medal" on this, pretty sad. Especially since I don't get near the vandalism of other admins, luckily ;) ∞Who?¿? 21:12, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
A Request for Arbitration has been accepted by the ArbCom against BigDaddy777. Why not unblock him and instead ask the ArbCom to issue a temporary injunction banning him? Alternatively, why not ask the ArbCom to review your block and replace it with a temporary injunction? Robert McClenon 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I have been working on a new project designed to be a sister project to Esperanza, as it was designed to concentrate on the goals that Espranza did ultimately not adopt and a little more. I waited this long because I wanted to see which direction Esperanza would go in so that the projects wouldn't be redundant and that this one would not detract from Esperanza's formation. I'd like you opinion, please explore its main page at User:JCarriker/Wikipediology and its subpages. Please also see the wikibios and list of fellows, and indicated whether you plan to volunteer. Thanks. -JCarriker 21:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Once again, thanks for your response. I have seen, however, since we last talked you've been the subject of quite a bit of controversy. I hope I wasn't bothering you while you are in the middle of dealing with these problems.
So now people have accused you of being a famous "vandal" (On Wheels), you have dropped out of the Arbitration Committee elections only to re-enter, AND you are the subject of a Request for Comment. I have been following all of this in an attempt to learn about Wikipedia process.
The allegations on the Request for Comment are particularly troubling though. I did read the "Blocking Policy" and can sort of see how you might have circumvented it perhaps. Can you please let me know more about this, if only to enlighten me on how things work around here. I hope to keep contributing articles and editing but hate to think that people might be blocked outside of process. Good day! Shelburne Kismaayo 21:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Let's see if I have this straight: That weirdmobile Wiki brah offers me illegal drugs. Someone blocks him. He gets unblocked. Then, he files an RfC against you. Am I on drugs and don't know it or is this entire situation just getting weirder and weirder? - Lucky 6.9 23:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
1) The official sanction of the Arbitration Committee is given to the indefinite block of Rainbowwarrior1977 (talk·contribs). The Committee reaffirms that simple vandals and others who engage in overt, easily demonstrable vandalism can be blocked immediately. Neutralitytalk 21:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
It's a shame about the Star Wars mediation falling apart. I think mediation would do the editors involved a lot of good, especially since not all of the disputes are between X vs. Copperchair. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 00:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
For the record, I'm perfectly willing to sign on to a mediation that all parties will agree to, but if and only if an agreement is reached that all parties will cease the behaviour that caused this mess in the first place. If five people say "sure thing" and one person continues revert-warring, that hasn't accomplished anything.--chris.lawson 01:28, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:TomsRiver.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, ie in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.
If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{gfdl}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairuse}}.) See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks so much. RedWolf 03:11, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm, don't remember where I got it from, so I'll kill it off myself. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 03:17, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
I'd appreciate if you could post some sort of reply to this. FuelWagon 03:58, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
I'd appreciate it if you read the request before dismissing it out of hand. I'm not asking for Ed to be impeached. FuelWagon 04:15, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
I've replied on the MC page as to what I'm asking for. FuelWagon 14:31, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Red - I did a rather involved page move for Asperger's syndrome... I tried to follow the policy on it -
Deleted the redirect page, moved the old page to the redirect page, and then restore the history of the redirect page
Do #1 for the talk page too
Move all the talk page archives normally one by one...
Redirect the featured article candidate page to the old name version
Let me know if that was correct... seems to be ok :).
(Also, I'm going to thank you and everyone else here eventually :), today was just a long day. Besides, I did a several hour peer review of a page only to be accused of whining Wikipedia:Peer review/OpenBSD/archive1)
Don't let the RFC/RfArs get to you :). Thanks!
Ryan NortonT | @ | C 07:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Q1werty was improperly blocked due to the fact that four administrators blocked this user infinitely four times. This is a minor notification that his block has been appropriately fixed. If it hasn't, then there's a bug in the MediaWiki system and should be reported. When I checked the logs on this person, I found that there were four infinite blocks on this user:
23:11, 10 October 2005 Rdsmith4 blocked "User:Q1werty" with an expiry time of indefinite (Vandal)
23:24, 10 October 2005 Redwolf24 blocked "User:Q1werty" with an expiry time of indefinite (Vandalisms!)
23:42, 10 October 2005 Katefan0 blocked "User:Q1werty" with an expiry time of indefinite (Page move vandal)
09:48, 11 October 2005 The Anome blocked "User:Q1werty" with an expiry time of indefinite (vandalism-only user)
One thing I noticed is that there was no notice on this particular user's talk page stating the user was infinitely blocked. Anyway, just letting you know what happened. --AllyUnion(talk) 09:17, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I blocked this account as a possible imposter of you. Wasn't sure, better safe than sorry. I left a note on their talk page if they need unblocked. ∞Who?¿? 22:18, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
I know you saw my questions from earlier this week. I was hoping you would have responded by now -- I'm still puzzled over this whole fiasco. Is there any policy to blocking around here or not? I hope everything is going well otherwise.Shelburne Kismaayo 22:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
After reading these allegations and the community response to it, it appears that a real dispute is at hand. Essjay also (on my talk page) told me as much. I have tried to ask you twice about it, only to be ignored -- and I know you saw my comments. Therefore, I have no choice but to second the Request for Comment about your blocking actions. Since my signature was placed within 48 hours of the author's posting, its now offical. Please let us know your intentions. Regretfully,Shelburne Kismaayo 01:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure which community you're referring to, but what I see is people supporting Redwolf in dealing with a known troll. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 03:12, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
No no no, Wiki brah is not a troll, he's just had some problems. Rainbowwarrior1977 on the other hand is 300% troll. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 03:18, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your support of my adminship!! I was surprised at the turnout and support I got! If you ever have any issues with any of my actions, please notify me on my talk page! Thanks again! Of course, you know I'm especially grateful that you deemed me worthy of nomination :). I honestly thought it would fail since I've only been active a couple of months here - so it was quite astonishing :). Thanks Red! Ryan NortonT | @ | C 03:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
The other similarities should exist, it's an article describing a method of treatment. I should hope that my article is very similar to that of the official website, if not, my article would be wrong!
Thanks a lot, and I am really excited to join. One question...how do I sign up for the mediation mailing list? Do I have to sign up, or just give you my e-mail address? (Oh, and for what it's worth, I will be on WP very rarely until Friday...midterms are this week.) Ral315WS 04:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I saw your question about Juriwiki in the RfM history: juriwiki is the (private) mailing list for questions regarding legal issues facing the Foundation. In my opinion, once something is handed off to juriwiki, I consider it to be tabled indefinitely until there is a response as to the legal issues. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Essjay (talk • contribs) 15:46, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Really thought i dont see what is wrong with calling chicks "sluts" I mean that hot girl from Rio I was making out with at the club last weekend I was calling her a slut in 5 different languages and she really liked it like most women i meet or know here . . . slut, prostituta, puta, putain, fotze its all the same it turns them on and me too I know.Wiki brah 21:45, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
On seccond thought maybe because you are only fiftenn you dont' realize this about sluts yet but I am surre you will when you get older and start going out more and what not thank you good night (I'm going to bed for a nap please i've been up all day and night sorry)Wiki brah 21:49, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I placed Xtreme Wrestling Entertainment on AFD and I want to place their wrestlers on AFD as well but I dont know how to group them into one nomination could you help me. Ty --JAranda | watz sup 01:34, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! Placed them all in a group. nn Junk, Promo is what they are. Sigh Dont know why people think Wikipedia is a place to promote their band, wannabe sports league, etc . --JAranda | watz sup 01:53, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
I was one of the original members of the committee, and there wasn't really any nomination process at the time. There was some sort of discussion on the mailing list, and I indicated an interest, and then Jimbo e-mailed me, and then I was on the committee. It wasn't really very formal at the time -- I honestly have little recollection of how I came to be chair. I think there was no chair for awhile, and then some discussion about possibly having one, and someone suggested me and I agreed, and then that was that. Tuf-Kat 03:55, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
For Help with the BigDaddy777 case. Completely unsoliticited, you performed this act to lower the Wikistress of me, Woohookitty and to help the Wikipedia community as a whole get rid of an incredibly bad actor
Hey, Red, could you go to VFU for a second? You're the head of the MedCom, and there are two users making a mockery of the Undeletion process, making it a flame war/RfC. The users are Silverback (talk·contribs) and 172 (talk·contribs). Thanks, Titoxd(?!?) 04:56, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not neutral. I've already warned Silverback to stop making attacks. I'm an admin as well as a mediator. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 05:01, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, then see the history of the VFU page. I'm in my 2nd revert, and I adhere to the 2RR... Titoxd(?!?) 05:04, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
If you have a chance, take a look at my request on Meta. Note, this is an invitation to look, not a solicitation :) ∞Who?¿? 07:58, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
I recently contacted Uncle Ed regarding the ongoing edit war on the Landmark Education page. He suggested I ask you. My commitment is that the page should provide an authoratitive, useful and honest account of the organisation and its activities (including the ongoing accusations and counter-claims) which conforms to the NPOV policies. My own position is that I did the Landmark Forum about three years ago and found it useful. I have a lot of good friends who rate it highly. The organisation does have its faults, but my assesment of the criticism is that most of it is over the top and either misinformed or deliberately malicious. I do not work for Landmark and am not currently doing any of their programs.
Would you be prepared to take a quick look at the article, the recent history, and the most recent few sections on the discussion page (at the bottom)? I would appreciate your advice.
If you do feel that either arbitration or moderation woudl be appropriate, would you be prepared to be involved? If not, can you suggest anyone for me to ask?
I'm sorry, I have to go to Canada and I won't be back for a few hours. When I get back I'll probably assign Improv to the case, so I'll leave a copy of this note on his talk page, and he can take over. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 18:01, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Here's a cookie for being an amazing (and attractive) poll worker! Just make sure you run a few miles on the Treadmill, or you won't be so attractive for the next election. ^_^
Matt! I appreciate your equalizer vote in the election. Once again, I'm sorry I voted for myself at first. Won't happen again.
Also, I must express my gratitude for your work assisting the Election Polls. Have this. :P
Last, but not least, I hope you're doing all right. I damn near had a heart attack when I saw that silly RfC. Everything will be okay. You've got a lot of people on your side who know that you made wise decisions when facing those trolls. Acetic'Acid 20:45, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Umm I still dont know what you are saying I mean I always call my girls sluts and I've never herad anything wrong about it until you said it I think stil It is becausse you are only fiften and dont know much about them yet, but worry dont about it i'm sure you will some day. I'm gong tout tonight again too to try to meet some moreWiki brah 21:55, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Red, thanks for your vote in Esperanza's Advisory Committee Elections. While I didn't get enough votes to be part of it, I know that the four who are can do the job much better than I could have. But I don't take your show of trust (oh, wait, I forgot that it was an equalizer vote... ;-)) in me lightly, I really appreciate it, and tell me whenever you think I can be useful for something. As for your RfC, it is clear that the entire community is with you, so don't let it get you down, ok? Titoxd(?!?) 23:05, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf—that's very kind of you, but I'm not sure it would make much difference. All the same, I'll let you know of the 2000 thing. Tony 04:55, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Becoming an admin opens up a whole new world of abilities and privelidges and over all makes things easier for a person, I think you'd be a suitable admin. Cheers. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 05:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Im thinking about nominating Greg Asche for admin in Early November and Purplefeltangel in late november before my big retry nomination in Late November/Early December. Are nominating them a good idea or no. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 05:09, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Both are great choices, and you could probably nominate GregAsche today! Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 05:10, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes I talked to him and he said in early November is ok and Im going to talk to Purplefeltangel who you know learned alot in Wikipedia since seeing that bad faith nomination when she first started out about admin right now. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 05:13, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Somebody needs to remind me when these come up, I will forget in like 10 mins :) ∞Who?¿? 05:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Im starting to think that after 2 months maybe Exactly One Month after my failed VFD attempt I should get nominated for admin if it could be possible. My user page is getting vandalised like crazy and even got this recently. Is this a possiblily and have any user become admin after 2- 2 1/2 months of being here or no. Just too impatient Im hooked :P for that rollback button. --JAranda | watz sup 05:53, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
You could do it at 2 months, but some think it's better to wait at least 3. It really depends on how bad the last one was, and how much of your contributions have been noticed. ∞Who?¿? 06:04, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
How long should we keep his user and talk pages protected? No sign of him and I don't see any sockpuppets of his anywhere. Let me know. --Woohookitty 11:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, today is already the 15th. Do you think that I should put up my RfA today or should I wait? I am not quite sure. Maybe I should wait until I am nominated, as it is easier to become an admin when someone else nomitates you. Thanks.Voice of All@|E|Merit 17:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Off course...just kidding.....yep...Anyway I guess I just have to wait and see, and try not to worry.Voice of All@|E|Merit 21:14, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I won't run, I'm just not going to, and you weren't supposed to see that. I was just showing what I thought was funny to someone I talk to. I don't get "wiki-stress", I get real life stress, none of it is caused by wikipedia, this place is a choice. I go here to keep me busy so I don't do something stupid. Just saying. PrivateButcher 21:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to humbly suggest that you expand your essays. Also while I once was a Teenage Wikipedian, as of March of this year I was no longer one no longer, so you may want to reword my influence from a historic POV. One more thing you may be interested in the CFD debate over Category: Millenial Wikipedians. Some of the sentiement you discuss in you essay can be infered from some of the debate. I'm currently supporting merging Millennial Wikipedians (the original cat I created) and Gen Y Wikipedians into Millennial Generation Wikipedians. Millennials are one of the names, appllied to the Generation born primarily in 80s and 90s (some defs may delete the late 90s and add the late 70s). -JCarriker 22:17, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I never saw why anyone would want to delete millenial wikipedians... I also changed other teenagers include.... to other teenagers include(d). And Jay aren't you 18? You're not a minor, but still a teenager. Or are you actually 20? Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 22:25, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm seven months too old to be a teenager (I wish I were 18 again), so for most of my wikicareer I was a teen, and I still hold strong anti-Ageist views. You can find the CFD vote, here. Also do you think that you could spam Espaeranza about its sister project Wikipediaology? Thanks. -JCarriker 22:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I can do you one better, I can get it in the signpost... well not quite yet... I'll spam as soon as I'm done with the AfD backlogs. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 23:02, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually I got welcomed when I arrived months ago, but it disappeared. But thanks anyway. And good luck in the arbcom election. Chick Bowen 23:07, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I need this AOL IP number unblocked and fast 152.163.100.198. I cant edit pages that are not Wikipedia or User Space pages. Could you do me that favor. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 23:18, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
It says that it been blocked for the pass half-an-hour. And it doesn't say who blocked it nither. I dont what is happening ??????????????????????????? --JAranda | watz sup 23:23, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I d/c myself and got a new set of IP numbers but could you look into why 152.163.100.198 is mysteriously blocked as a open proxy by a unknown user. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 23:38, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
It won't show up in IP Block list unless its still blocked, see block log for that entry. However at the time of the request it wasn't blocked. Which is odd. ∞Who?¿? 00:55, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Wow. Saw your RfB. I think you're an excellent choice, but I really have to think this one through (I've only voted "Support" once, iirc, for Nichalp, and that one was a no-brainer). Good luck though. Guettarda 01:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello, I just thought I'd drop by a message that maybe you should put some kind of warning besides the "WoW" link. While it could have been worse, I still think there should be a warning like "possibly R-rated". Thank you! Y0u(Y0ur talk page)(Y0ur contributions) 02:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Property Specification Language was a page that I placed in AFD and was somehow kept by some other admin even though it looks like a consious for a delete with 4 deletes 1 Weak Keep and 1 Keep. I have my doubts for it being kept and I want to avoid conflect so what should I do. Replace it on AFD? , ask another admin to delete it or just leave it as it is. Im so confused. --JAranda | watz sup 03:36, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks but another problem I got. When I try to place that same page on AFD again it just shows the link for the original debate. So what should I do now still confused :P --JAranda | watz sup 03:47, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Type {{subst:AfD}} and where it says /Property Specification Language, add (2nd nomination) to the end. Then edit the redlink :) Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 03:48, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
{{subst:AfDx|2nd}} is easier. Dragons flight 04:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Still don't get it. Do it for me if you can. Thanks! --JAranda | watz sup 03:56, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your kindd words. I hope we can pu this all passt us out now I am statisfied with your explannations on the blocks and all such I unsderstand I am trying to writen good artricles now. I am learning how to fly commercially in my country and I think I can contribute one or two aviation/airplane articles a week to start out with.
I am not in the mood to write much toninght summer's starting here so though I went out last night and got way too drunk trying to meet and sedduce some women and just ended up really sick today (Flaps 40 haha) and so I did a couple lines of coke to pick me upp in the afternoon and now I just feel like all hell, I think i'm going back to bed ssoon! :<...
I also saw where you volunteered (somewhere I cant remmember) to "mentor" me no offense but I already have a friend that watches me (Lucky6*8) and I wouldnt really feel all that comfstrable with a fefteen year old mentoring me (no offense) but since Lucky is on vacation for a while I see I would not mind your freind "Essajay" to mentor me too if you would like!!
Oh and another thinng about last night: This slut I met that was calling me here at my parents a lot it turned out that she slept with my friend who lives nearby . . . Isn't that wierd?? Good night thank you.!!!Wiki brah 04:02, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your nomination - my bid (as you know) went swimmingly. I couldn't have asked for a better one. Thank you very much and I hope I don't mess up! --Celestianpowerhablamé 12:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf, you told me ou weren't going to run for RFB. I wish you had informed me about your change in plans. =Nichalp«Talk»= 14:37, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome. It was helpful. I have recieved several. You are welcome on the RfC. I became aware of it using the vandal fighter, checked it out. My main interest is writing and I have a few articles on Wikipedia already. I have one in que but need help uploading images. Need to be able to correctly do that before putting it up. The images in question all over 100 years old, one from the Library of Congress and another from a prison mugshot. It was faily easy to find their copright status but need to know how to correctly place them on the page. Suppose this is a lot to ask but you need not answer until you have time. Thanks.-Dakota 16:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Could you post a reply [49]? Also, if there is some sort of formal process to resolve this, that would be great. Ann keeps bringing up my NPA violations arguing apparently that past violations apparently justifies any behaviour on Ed Poor's part. I accepted Ed Poor's first 40 hour block for NPA violations without protest. I paid my dues and since that block I have never violated NPA again. But after he blocked me the first time, Ed blocked me again for "personal" comments when I was working on an RfC against SlimVirgin, Ed warned Neuroscientist for criticizing SlimVirgin, Ed attacked the RfC against SlimVirgin, and then Ed attacked me personally. Ann can argue whether or not a 40 hour block was enough for my NPA violations, but that is separate from Ed Poor's behaviour as mediator, separate from whether Ed Poor engaged in the debate he was supposed to be mediating, handed out an undeserved block, and attacked me. FuelWagon 17:37, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
There are at least four things that relate directly to Ed Poor's behaviour while he was mediating Terri Schiaov. (1) Ed Poor's second block against me while I was creating an RfC against SlimVirgin. He says there were NPA violations, but has refused to point out anything specific. He moved everythign to a /block directory. (2) Ed Poor's warning to Neuroscientist for possibly violating NPA when Neuroscientist had criticized the content of SlimVirgin's edit. (3) Ed Poor's attack of the RfC against SlimVirgin (4) Ed Poor's personal attack against me. All this occurred while Ed Poor was mediation Terri Schiavo. All of this occurred on the Terri Schiaov page or related pages.
Ann is basically arguing that if I bring these issues up against Ed, she'll try to bring up my past offences that she wasn't even involved with and no admin found cause to block me for. Can you comment on the request to look at Ed Poor's behaviour as mediator on the Terri Schiavo article? This is separate from Ann's attempt to threaten me into silence using unrelated issues. Ed's block against me had nothing to do with any past NPA violations and had everything to do with the fact that I was working on an RfC against his friend.
So, if a mediator doesn't mediate, can the mediation committee address it somehow? FuelWagon 22:31, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Address it somehow? You're complaining a lot, but without suggesting a way to fix anything. Would you like me to stamp a warning on Ed's face? As far as I know, injunctions in mediation cases only apply to those in the mediation. SlimVirgin wasn't in it, she didn't know about it, the RfC was frivolous, there's no excuse for attacking her, if you were attacked back then file an RfC. Ed Poor attacking an RfC as frivolous is fine by me, as I call a lot of RfC's frivolous. Ed has been on the medcom since it first came about and I've only seen him mess up on one or two mediations. Also, you say when he blocked you he had no evidence. At the same time, you're not giving evidence on how he screwed up. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 22:39, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
"Address it somehow? You're complaining a lot, but without suggesting a way to fix anything. Would you like me to stamp a warning on Ed's face? As far as I know, injunctions in mediation cases only apply to those in the mediation. SlimVirgin wasn't in it, she didn't know about it,"
She didn't know the article was in mediation?
"the RfC was frivolous, there's no excuse for attacking her, if you were attacked back then file an RfC. Ed Poor attacking an RfC as frivolous is fine by me, as I call a lot of RfC's frivolous. Ed has been on the medcom since it first came about and I've only seen him mess up on one or two mediations."
An interesting argument, considering that below you say I'm not giving evidence, so I'm not sure what you're basing your judgment off of if you have no evidence to look at.
"Also, you say when he blocked you he had no evidence. At the same time, you're not giving evidence on how he screwed up."
Ah, well, I've posted this elsewhere, but will post it again for your convenience:
User Neuroscientist posts a 5,000 word criticism of the content of SlimVirgin's edit, including numerous factual and NPOV problems. It gets into a lot of technical and neurological detail. [50]. Ed Poor responds to Neuroscientist by warning him not to violate NPA [51].
I start working on an RfC against SlimVirgin on my talk page. SlimVirgin complains. Ed asks her if there's any specific talk page he should look at [52]. Two hours later [53], Ed moves all the edits on my talk page that are critical of SlimVirgin to a /block subdirectory and blocks me because "you have not said anything about how you intend to help this project." [54] He quickly realized that was a silly excuse for blocking someone and then adds one minute later that I was making "personal remarks" [55]. The entire /block directory can be read here. If you can find a violation of NPA, please let me know.
I asked Ed to "point out what exactly on my talk-page was "hurtful" that got me completely locked (I was doing my best to write my objections to SlimVirgin's edit without any mention of personal character)" [56]. Ed avoided answering teh question, responding "If you want to dig into whether I've "followed the rules", if you're more interested in that than in making a good article, go ahead and RFC/RFA/RFdeadmin me or whatever. We can have a mud-wrestling contest, but neither or us will enjoy it much and we'll both get filthy." [57]. This to me basically says that there were no NPA violations on my talk page that he moved to teh /block directory, and that he did it solely because I was working on the RfC against SlimVirgin, and SlimVirgin was a personal friend.
Once I file teh RfC against SlimVirgin, Ed gave it hesitant and partial endorsement saying " Basically, Slim moved too far, too fast at Terry Schiavo." [58]. So, I don't think it was a completely frivolous RfC. But then Mel Etitis opposed the RfC saying "Ed Poor has shown poor judgement in endorsing this, in my opinion. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:04, 15 July 2005 (UTC)" to which Ed Poor responded "I have withdrawn my endorsement - which was only partial and tentative. Uncle Ed 20:40, July 15, 2005 (UTC)" [59]. Ed then goes on the RfC talk page and attacks it and anyone supporting it as "building a case", gaming the system in a hypocritical bullying way, and "spurious". [60]
I withdraw my certification and the RfC is deleted. Ed then gives me a lesson in free speech:
You're entitled to form whatever opinion you want, but not always to express it. There is no freedom of speech at Wikipedia in the same sense as America's First Amendment. I happen to think you're an asshole and a shit head, and that you're fucking everything up, you stupd, time-wasting bully!!! (This is inserted as an example of a forbidden comment, go ahead and complain about me if you want, but I was illustrating a point. [61]
So, basically, I have 4 points of issue regarding Ed Poor's behaviour while mediating the Terri Schiavo article. (1) there are no NPA violations in my /block directory and his second block against me was underserved and simply an attempt to stop the RfC against SlimVirgin (2) Ed warns Neuroscientist for violating NPA when all Neuroscientist did was critique SlimVirgin's edit (3) Ed Poor engaged in teh debate on the RfC against SlimVirgin and attacked it and the people who filed it as building a case, gaming the system, bullying, and spurious (4) Ed Poor then attacked me under the justification of teaching me a lesson about free speech.
If you need more evidence, let me know. FuelWagon 05:56, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I remember you stating that a temp block might be in order. Once is definately in order by now, with Silverback revert warring on his own RfC and charging the cosigners with "vandalism." [62]172 | Talk 21:12, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Per Alphax's comment on there, I made a Fairly Stupid User Award that I might post on WP:PUA or request to become an "official" Barnstar later if I damn well feel like it. Until then, good luck in your quest to become "Son of Jimbo" ;-) Karmafist 21:36, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Whoops. Sorry, the Award is stupid, not you. Just for clarification. Unless of course, you are in fact stupid against what I thought before. In that case, disregard what I just said... Karmafist 05:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your input on the misuse of the WP:VIP. BTW, Silverback's 5 reversions of the "severe vandalism" on the RfC have not been addressed. [63]172 | Talk 22:54, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
I really don't think you should block every username containing "Jimbo" (people besides JW call themselves that, y'know :-P), and that this user is much more likely to be repulsed and lose interest in contributing to WP than email you (especially as you didn't actually indicate how to email you). I won't reverse it myself but suggest you do so. ~~ N (t/c) 23:24, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
It was at Cool_Cat's suggestion that I do so, I knew that chances are it wasn't likely to be used for vandalism, but there's an offchance. I unblocked him on the autoblocker, and if he was autoblocked he must still be interested in editing the wiki. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 23:27, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
We often block any name with the word wheels in it, for... you know why. We tell the users to just get a new account, as I'm sure some of the wheels accounts were willy-free. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 23:29, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Sure, the autoblocker means he was interested for a while, but maybe he isn't anymore. I'm pretty sure the majority of contributors would leave in disgust - I would if being blocked were my first experience. I'm going to unblock and email him as a result, because I think letting a vandal briefly run wild and get reverted is better than losing a good contributor. ~~ N (t/c) 00:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Oops, didn't see he'd emailed you. I still think that cases where the user does respond are the exception. BTW, I loved the essay. ~~ N (t/c) 00:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
He emailed me a while ago, and didn't seem angry at all. I unblocked him as thus. But what if we let every wheely stick around, and they all turned out to be Willy? Remember the work we clean up for every Willy? Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 00:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, my comment needs clarification. Something like "Pilly on Pills" or "Willy Wheelpecker" is so unlikely to bee non-Willy that it can be banned. Something like "Willy Joe" or "WheelsMan" isn't, and probably shouldn't be blocked. If Willy moves on to non-obvious names (which he so far hasn't, apparently), then maybe we'd have to get less tolerant, but only then. ~~ N (t/c) 00:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I needed to change my vote from support to neutral beacuse I agree with the opposers and Essjay as well. Hope you don't mind :( :( but I also heard you are running for arbitrator as well. There I whould clearly support you and I dont think that you or anyone else could handle both aribitrador and buracrat at the same time cause of too much stress. --JAranda | watz sup 23:41, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Raul654 is an arbitrator, bureaucrat, featured article director, he chooses what's on our main page every day, and admin on more than one wikipedia. Being a bureaucrat won't raise stress, but being an arbitrator will. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 23:44, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Now Silverback is attacking you on the mailing list. [64] This has me more upset than any of the other stuff so far, as you're obviously as uninvolved as anyone could be. I'm going to take a break for at least a day so that I don't get burnt out... Sorry I can't respond on the mailing list, as I'm having trouble accessing email from this computer at the moment. 172 | Talk 01:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I posted some second thoughts on your Request for Comment against you. You can read them if you like. Essjay is threatening me now..jeez! And do you know if he is married?Shelburne Kismaayo 03:02, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Red, i think the above user, [User:Shelburne Kismaayo|Shelburne Kismaayo]] may be User:Wiki Brah. Not jumping to conclusions, this newbie editor has found the Rfcs faster than most editors. I also have another question that i would like to ask you via email.JobE6 04:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm i see, that problematic troll is also User:Brandonfarb. JobE6 18:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Help!I need you to help separate the personal infobox from the TDX current events box,the Babel thing and the Saint barnstar and the personal message!Thanks![[User:Tdxiang|Tan Ding Xiang | ☎]] 04:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks,but...I'd like those TDX current events box,the Babel thing and the Saint barnstar and the personal message outside the box...sorry to trouble you...[[User:Tdxiang|Tan Ding Xiang | ☎]] 04:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
OK, I promise not to bite you, and that's a very nice watch, though I was hoping for gold. But then, since I haven't really retired, I guess it's the best I can do. ;-) Cheers, Cecropia | explains it all ® 16:35, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the prodcedure is for the wikipedia, but i would like to request two IPs to be temporarily banned (199.254.216.2 and 64.56.47.35) for their malicious work on Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Thanks! Keoki 18:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
When I saw you opposed my RfB, I remembered there was a dispute I had with you. I found it now:
EXTREME DELETE, burn the author of the page. Regionalistic hatred that we shouldn't be giving attention to. I live in a blue state and I'm apolitical, but the writer of this page is a true dick. Why keep it? Because it has wikilinks? (Oh and for a side note, I favor keeping the GNAA, but this page really needs to die.) Let's make an article for Joe Blow's webblog citing why he hates Massachusetts. Yayyyz! --Redwolf24 (talk) 04:53, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf24, is there anything you want to say to me directly? Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 05:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
When I said burn the author, I didn't mean of the article (i.e. you) I mean whoever wrote www.fuckthesouth.org. I wasn't calling you a dick, I was referring to the site owner. And when I said 'wikilinks' I was referring to how the page links to stuff at Wikipedia. So I apologize for that misunderstanding about a month back. Cheers. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 02:05, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for responding, though I am disappointed you waited until I opposed your candidacy to do so. Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 19:34, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, you protected this page and claimed that the IP was not an AOL proxy. I can neither prove nor disprove what you have said, but you apparently left the user page unprotected so that User:172.145.249.120 could place the {{AOL}} template there.
Bleh, it turned out it was AOL, but it was strange only one person had used it at that point. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 02:39, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
You know, I'm very tempted to delete the damn thing, and would have if you hadn't requested that it not be. It's only attracting more unrelated crap, as I presumed it would. Trolls 1, Wikipedia 0. android79 03:40, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Can a single user ask for an RfC on a user's behavior? He's already reverted several times, so I don't feel I can be the one to go in and clean up the personal attacks in the main tort reform article. I don't know the best way to deal with what seems to me to be clearly out-of-bounds behavior. I presume administrators have access to IP information to quickly determine sock puppet usage. FRCP11 03:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
No, we don't. I got a sockpuppet check done recently with the help of a developer, but I had a lot of evidence. Only developers and DavidGerard can sock check. I guess mediation may work, leave a note on User talk:Sasquatch as he should continue with the case I believe. Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 03:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thought you'd get a kick out of that, I was wondering why you'd nominate someone for adminship who made their account only a few hours earlier. Karmafist 05:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I noticed on the bottom of your user page that you intend on nominating User:Toothpaste near the end of this month. If I might suggest, this may be premature. First, her average # of edits has been steadily declining now for about 7 weeks. This is a bit worrisome; how dedicated is she to the project? Second, her use of edit summaries is low at 33% overall, 40.6% over the last 500 edits. Third, as I think you know now, having less than 2,000 edits can be a kiss of death for RfAs as <50% of them succeed below 2000 edits. Based on her average number of edits per day over the last 30 days, she'll hit 2,000 edits sometime in March of 2006. I'm NOT saying do not nominate her; just be very, very careful about the nom and make sure there is no reason to otherwise oppose her. Nickbush24's nom fell apart due to civility issues. Don't let that happen to Toothpaste. All the best, --Durin 20:35, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
User:Redwolf24/Sandbox doesn't do anything to address my primary concerns; less than 2,000 edits, less than 50% use of edit summaries, and declining participation over the last 7 weeks. Yes, I know about NicholasTurnbull's RfA. In comparison, his use of edit summaries is 96% (Toothpaste is 33% overall), and leading into his RfA his participation was increasing rather than decreasing. If her edits have been decreasing due to efforts on other language Wikipedias, then I'd cite her contributions on those wikipedias so people can see them as well. Also, NicholasTurnbull's distribution of edits over namespaces is stronger than Toothpaste's distribution. As I noted, I am not saying do not nominate her. I am suggesting you be very careful about the nomination; make a thorough check of all user talk interactions, see where she is participating across admin appropriate work areas and note them in the RfA nom, etc. One suggestion; in your tentative nom statement, you say "Just having Featured Articles isn't quite enough to be an admin though" then follow it with just one more sentence. If you're going to include a line like that, especially after so much discussion of FAC issues in the nom, then I suggest adding in substantial material regarding her work in other areas. For example, 14 edits in Wikipedia:Peer review, 21 in Wikipedia:Science collaboration of the week, 28 in WP:AFD, and 34 reverts. Personally, I wouldn't include that quote at all. While participation on IRC is admirable, not everybody participates there (for example, me) and there's no record of her work there; people have no way of evaluating it. All the best, --Durin 13:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
You're a furry? You're under the category furry wikipedians and I was just wondering, because it was just weird to see. PrivateButcher 22:04, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
This one should be obvious... He's a wolf! Dragons flight 22:09, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your support on my RfA; I really appreciate it! I will do my best to live up to the trust you've shown in me. ::begins going down checklist of pages to move to "X on wheels!" No, wait a minute, I need something more original -- how about "X on bicycles"? (evil grin):: Thanks, Hermione1980 23:15, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Mr. Redwolf24Why did you blank my page. I'm trying to be civil here and start something that I can occupy myself with. Why destroy it? Why don't you just leave me alone? I haven't vandalized and yet everybody's out to get me? YOU Leave ME Alone, let some other unbiased admin take care of it!!!--Blueballs 23:18, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
YOU JUST HAVE A PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST ME! NO OTHER ADMIN WOULD DO TO MY PAGE WHAT YOU DID! LOOK MAN I LEFT YOU BUDDY NICK BUSH24 ALONE, NOW LEAVE ME THE *$## ALONE. YOU EVEN BLOCKED ME ONCE WITHOUT WARNING WHEN I JUST CHANGED THE COLOR OF THE STREETLIGHT FIXTURE. F OFF OK!--Blueballs 23:33, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Uhm. Yea. Aren't these supposed to come with a box of chocolates or flowers? «»Who?¿?meta 23:35, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Do u think that this november comming up will be maybe one of the best month for RFAs as users such as GraemeL who I expect at least 100+ votes and maybe a record , JoanneBJobe6 who im thinking of nominating in Early November V. Molotov and user MONGO who im planning of nominating in Mid November when he comes back from a 2 week vaction he said and BD2412 who I heard is planning to become a admin in LateNovember and whould clearly get 100+ votes in a snap and (few others that name is too long to type I think u know who) probaly become nominated and Accepeted --JAranda | watz sup 23:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
V. Molotov is an admin I believe. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:52, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Nope something happened that got him pissed and he withdrew adminship . --JAranda | watz sup 23:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
And it's unlikely a new RfA for him would pass. His outbursts following his last RfA will be viewed in a rather negative light. Furthermore, he insists he's leaving the project. --Durin 14:22, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Also, we'll get a record for Acetic Acid (if he isn't already nominated by then) and our RfA friend Johann Wolfgang on November 1st by me and Essjay. --Celestianpowerhablamé 09:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes, this is one of my accounts related to User:Rainbowwarrior1977. I admit that User:Shelburne_Kismaayo and I are related somewhat, but I swear up and down that I have nothing at all to do with that User:Wiki_brah character. Do I seem like that guy at all? Shelburne was an obvious doppelganger, I know, but I don't think that Wiki_brah guy, whoever the hell he is, should be caught up in all this. I'm willing to accept my ban but I hate for innocents to be caught up in it. Anyway, I had even targetted Wiki_brah for a bit, along with User:Paul_Klenk, posing as User:TheDeletator, who I'm sure you know was also related to me. Why would I take the trouble to compose a Request for Comment against myself? It doesnt make sense. So please re-consider the block on User:Wiki_brah. You yourself believed him to be who he claimed to be, and who really could be that but him? I'm going to post the same on my pal Essjay's page and then be done with Wikipedia. I've caused enough problems for innocents. Sorry.Brandonfarb 01:06, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, Red, for your support of my RfA! I promise to do a good job using the keys to the janitor's closet. >:Roby WayneTalk • Hist • E@ 01:33, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure about all the details that lead to the blocking of Tern, but User:195.188.254.82 has admitted to being him, and claims to be editting from a library computer. I've blocked the IP for one hour; hopefully long enough to halt him and short enough to avoid inflicting collateral damage. Figured I'd give you the heads-up, as it seems he's been doing this for some time.--Scimitarparley 15:12, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
I believe it'd be okay for him to return as long as he stops whining about wikipedia and claiming we did him a harm, etc. If you see his talk page you'll see why he was blocked indefinitely, though he's not banned. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Please revisit the AfD/Article for Urine tax... it is WP:V. The article was factually inaccurate though. I've updated the article. Thanks!--Isotope23 00:41, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Need you do to me a favor. This page Lauren 'Skeeter' Sirkin Im having a revert war with the creator of that article. It is nonsense and a A7 but the creator keep taking away the speedy tag. Could u delete it and protect that page. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 01:45, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for getting rid of that junk. --JAranda | watz sup 01:51, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Red, I went the rules on transwiking on meta, but its still somewhat confusing to me. When you close an afd debate that has a consensus to transwiki - do you delete the article afterwards? Also, how do you actually do the transwiki - just dump it in the Transwiki:ARTICLENAME? Or actually put it in the main namespace o f the wiki? Ryan NortonT | @ | C 02:52, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Copy and paste to wt:Transwiki:ARTICLENAME or whatever source. The friendly people there will decide if they want it or not. Make sure you get the authors there too, maybe on a talk page... then delete the article here. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! Ryan NortonT | @ | C 03:42, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Looks like you bid to become a beaurocrat has failed(closed early). Sorry about that, but it looks like you need more time here in order to convice others that you can be promoted. In my opinion, you would make a fine beaurocrat, and I was not just voting based in "popularity". Oh well. Looks like my RfA might close early...yay!Voice of All@|Esperanza|E M 14:34, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
They only close early if it's clear they won't succeed, passing RfA's are never closed early. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:42, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh NOES! I don't think the timing on that could have been worse.... yesterday was the roughest wikipedia day evar! I was burned out from working on Microsoft and the school debates. I don't blame people for thinking that I have "no clue of how to get along with people" or whatever after that, LOL. Maybe withdraw yet again and reapply later? Ryan NortonT | @ | C 23:57, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Wow, three withdrawals. If you see fit, go ahead, and try in another month. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Not sure if you're still interested, but it looks like Silverback has a meatpuppet in Silverbackman0076 (talk·contribs). I honestly don't have alot of confidence in the structured mediation process after what happened in the MC, Karyn/Kelly Martin's attitude of negativity towards WP:RFAr on IRC all the time even though she's on the Arbcom(she seems like she needs a vacation from there) , and most recently Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Pigsonthewing. Karmafist 03:46, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
So are you trying to say you're frustrated with the wiki? You're not alone. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf—I just looked at Kate's edit counter, and it's 2005 edits. It's a kinda ham-fisted way of assessing contribution—my count is probably inflated by my habit of forgetting to preview, and then returning to polish. On the other hand, sometimes I do huge edits in a single go. Your call. Cheers. Tony 04:45, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
I'll work on it pretty soon, Sunday at the latest. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf...I've recently taken a quick look at User:JoanneB for possible admin candidacy. I didn't do a thorough review, just checking talk page (looks very promising), time joined up (August), and number of edits (>4000). Due to the fact that she does so much vandal fighting, I suspect she'll get nominated long before she reaches the six month watermark I have for nominating people. I thought you might like to be aware of her in case you'd like to nominate her yourself. All the best, --Durin 17:49, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
She's an excellent candidate; I've been working with her all day in #wikipedia-en-vandalism. -- Essjay· Talk 18:33, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
JoanneB is gonna get over 80 supports, mark my words. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes, and one of them is going to be from me! --Celestianpowerhablamé 08:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you! I noww totally undrestand your blocks and sorry that about bad people using my comments to jump on you like that but I am writing an article with Lucky 9.6 now so everrything is giong to be fine! Good morning thank you.!!!!Wiki brah 21:47, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
boothy344 has voted no on every single RfA without explanation. This is not only suspesious, but against RfA guidlines. This is possible trolling warranting RfC. I wonder if the beaurocrates even count such silly votes. This is just ridiculous.Voice of All@|Esperanza|E M 21:52, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Boothy443 is known far and wide. He's not a troll however. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
BigDaddy777 used an IP address of 68.42.141.76 to get around the banishment. He posted to Rex071404's page. He is the only one who has ever used that IP so I banned it for a month. I don't think I'll see opposition, but if I do, I might need your backup. --Woohookitty 05:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
How is it that I was the one who blocked him indefinitely? It seems like someone should have a long time ago. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:10, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Someone should have banned BigDaddy a long time ago, but the reason that didn't happen is complicated. BigDaddy's first major interaction was with Hipocrite[65]. BigDaddy's second major interaction was with Kizzle[66]. Both editors tried to persuade BigDaddy to follow the rules and failed. As did Numerous other editors. Then the RfC was filed[67]. Gator1[68] advised BigDaddy not to respond to that RfC and attempted to discredit the RfC in it's entirety. Paul Klenk[69] then butted in and attempted to prove that BigDaddy had "improved"[70] even though he completely ignored the RfC. First Kizzle's will wavered and he attempted to shut down the RfC[71], but Hipocrite objected. Later on Kizzle's will strengthened and he begun moving towards arbitration[72]. But then Hipocrite's will faltered. And then Kizzle decided everyone should just ignore BigDaddy and again attempted to shut down the RfC.[73]. At which point I stepped in and filed the RfAr. Then BigDaddy begun deleting other's comments left and right. And then RedWolf banned him. And you know the rest. Even after this whole sordid affair some users think BigDaddy wasn't "massaged" enough.[74]. - Mr. Tibbs 06:17, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
This story goes to show that Menaces like BigDaddy cannot be appeased and must be dealt with firmly. When the Carrot doesn't work, you Must use the Stick. - Mr. Tibbs 06:17, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Interesting story, but I know most of it, I was the one who blocked him afterall. And please call me Redwolf24 instead of RedWolf, RedWolf is a very senior admin with like 60,000 edits. I'm a different guy with a measly 10,000, yet we're both very well known. Point is, I'm not RedWolf ;-) Redwolf24 (talk) 06:20, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
I Left out an important dialogue between Gator1 and other users on this subject: [75]. Here's another important dialogue involving Paul Klenk: [76]. Looking back there were several big mistakes in the handling of this other than firmness. Hipocrite and Kizzle's RfC excluding NPOV. Hipocrite and Kizzle both not keeping good track of BigDaddy, evidenced by Hipocrite missing BigDaddy's acts of vandalism. Multiple people allowing Paul Klenk and Gator1 to drag them into protracted arguements about BigDaddy. Oh well, 20/20 hindsight. - Mr. Tibbs 06:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Could you my user page for a few hours as Im being attacked by annoying trolls and vandals that make me feel like quitting --JAranda | watz sup 01:43, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting it I hope those annoying trolls go away now. I cant wait til November 21(the 3 month mark) when I let some one nominate or me nominate my self for admin so it could be perminaly protected and take care of those trolls --JAranda | watz sup 01:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Could you unprotect my user page now vandalism went away (I Hope) and need to place 2 Barnstars in my user page.Thanks anyways for the protection. --JAranda | watz sup 03:19, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
DONT LEAVE, DONT FADE OUT!!!
YOU'RE WANTED I SWAEAR! So I guess you weren't ready for Beaurocratship. You're an awesome editor, and noone can take that away from you, but I guess you need a little more time. No problem for such a great contributor such as yourself, but do us all a favor and don't fade out. Take a wikibreak if you need, but come back really soon, okay, please? (I'll e-mail you every day after a week if you dont....) -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 03:05, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
It's not the bureaucrat nomination, in fact that wasn't in my mind at all. It's just dissapointment with some parts and people of wikipedia. I'm not close to taking a break, but if you look at my edits lately you'll see I've been slowing, and hopefully this trend won't continue, but don't be surprised if it does. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
I am about to go now but I have one questtion of you i fyou do not mind. What is a furry I am nott familiair with taht term tahnk you. Wiki brah 05:05, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Please can you deal with this as quickly as possible. It is a very damaging attack on myself and I am dumbfounded that you allow this to go on. Please remove.
Original Message -----
From: kategibbs
To: info-en@wikimedia.org
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 11:18 PM
Subject: TalK: List of Australians in International Prisons
Dear Sir/Madam
I am appalled at the way Wikipedia is used by people to launch personal attacks, which has recently happened to myself. Please see
I was informed some time ago that people had been posting about me and the work I do at www.prisonersoverseas.com
I received an email this morning saying that whilst searching for Prisoners Overseas on Google using my name, the above came up in the listings. I have not been able to defend myself and the information is incorrect, including the fact I live in the UK, when I am based in Australia.It is in response to my setting up of Prisoners Overseas. This person has sought to blacken my name. There is a comment there from a Robert Frost of Prisoner Dispute in the UK, this is a fictitious name and fictitous organisation.
I have been accused of being someone called Diane Elgar, whom I am not. I would ask that this be investigated and removed. I made one post sometime ago in defense of Stephen Sutton whose listing was being vandalised.
This is a blatant personal attack which you state you do not allow, yet this has been on Wikipedia for some time now. This is effecting genuine charity work.
I wrote to you some time ago which was ignored. Please answer this letter and remove this appalling use of Wikipedia.
Regards
Kate Gibbons
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Thank you for your support - particularly for being so nice about me! I'm withdrawing, but hope someone will nominate me once a bit of time has gone by. The Land 18:32, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello! I took the liberty of answering the questions and accepting the nomination now, as I might not be on when you put it up. I didn't date anything though. I'm starting to get nervous. :P Thanks again for doing this. Acetic'Acid 20:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
The Llama page is meeting heavy vandalism lately by a annon user. Could u protect it for a few hours. Thanks! --JAranda | watz sup 23:17, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
No. Don't protect pages due to one vandal. You warn the vandal a few times then block him, but you don't protect one page from one vandal. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:26, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
I need you to protect my User Page as well as im in a labtop that is about to run out of battery and Hurricane Wilma took out the lights in my place for at least 3 days as I live in Miami so I cant edit at all period and all that late vandalism of my user page out of late is a consern. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 21:36, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
From: kategibbs
To: info-en@wikimedia.org
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 11:18 PM
Subject: TalK: List of Australians in International Prisons
Dear Sir/Madam
I am appalled at the way you allow Wikipedia to be used for people to vent their personal attacks on people, which has recently happened to myself. Please see
I was informed some time ago that people had been posting about me and the work I do at www.prisonersoverseas.com
I received an email this morning saying that whilst searching for Prisoners Overseas using my name, the above came up in the google listings. I have not been able to defend myself and the information is incorrect, including the fact I live in the UK, when I am based in Australia. It is in response to my setting up of Prisoners Overseas. This person has sought to blacken my name. There is a comment there from a Robert Frost of Prisoner Dispute in the UK, this is a fictitious name and fictitious organisation. The whole attack on my personality and work is fictional and appalling.
I have been accused of being someone called Diane Elgar, whom I am not. I would ask that this be investigated and removed immediately. I made one post sometime ago in defence of Stephen Sutton whose listing was being vandalised.
This is a blatant personal attack which you state you do not allow, yet this has been on Wikipedia for some time now. This is effecting genuine charity work.
I wrote to you some time ago which was ignored. Please answer this letter and remove this appalling use of Wikipedia.
Regards
Kate Gibbons
www.prisonersoverseas.com
kate@prisonersoverseas.com
Stop posting this here, I am not involved and the link you gave me is to another copy of this very letter. But as for that article, I can't find Kate Gibbons anywhere there. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for going the extra mile. I saw it the minute you made the changes, and was going to thank you even before you told me. Orane(t)(c)(@) 00:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
...concerning my message on Purple's RfA. V/<M 01:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Nah it's fine. It was just a misunderstanding :) Redwolf24 (talk) 01:18, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Entonces, está bien. I don't believe I'll be an adm. soon, so I try to help most of them out. [User:V. Molotov|V]]/M! 01:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Ditto what V/M said. Still, that joke was in bad taste. If you say something like "your foolish little kid" but mean it as a joke, then at least add a :) or something.Voice of All@|Esperanza|E M 02:12, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
In stating age, I mean no insult. Any rationale person I think can easily agree that people who are 25 are, on average, more mature than people who are 15. There are always exceptions to every such rule of course. For all I know, you could be more mature than I! :) I actually figured you for 20-25. Age is probably a useless criteria; knowing age in this project is difficult; you count on someone stating it. I've already thought about deleting it in part because it's useless and in part because my criteria list is getting so long. If the candidate meets up with the other criteria, age won't be a factor anyways.
On another point; I noticed your wikistress level is high, and your contributions may be dropping. Lots of other people are begging you (or will) not to leave. I'll echo that. I'd like to add something else; avoid burnout. You are a very active contributor. It is easy for highly active contributors to get caught up in burnout. LET GO. What happens here is, on balance, pretty meaningless compared to real life. Also, assuming this project lasts for decades or even centuries, what we do here is not fundamentally important. All we can hope for is to nudge the project in directions we think are beneficial, plant seeds and hope for the best. Whether you contribute X or X*10 content/value to the project will make not much difference to the project 40 years from now. You're doing excellent work. Don't let that diminish because people aren't acting in ways you expect or want them to. People have a way of disappointing others. Pretty depressing :) That is, until you learn to let go and just relax, and not worry if someone agrees with you, does what you think they should, or etc. Until you have kids (and even then it's marginal) the only person you can reasonably expect to live up to your expectations is...you. Everything else is a crap shoot. --Durin 02:19, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
I appreciate your kind words and advice, and as for spending so much time on-wiki, I only come here after I do everything necessary. Yes, it's probably true that in the real world your average 25 year old (wait a second... FRAT BOYS!) is more mature than your average 15 year old. However, this is wikipedia. The 15 year olds who bother to stick around are only gonna be the most mature ones. See also [77] I think that's the link... kinda long I know Redwolf24 (talk) 02:26, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Users under 25 you may recognize: JCarriker, Linuxbeak, Zscout370, Mindspillage, Sasquatch, Ral315, NicholasTurnbull... List goes on :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Don't forget me! AngryParsley 03:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Or me but however, there are loads of well-know Wikipedians who are less than 25-years-old. --Celestianpowerháblame 09:40, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
From that essay "a teenager can probably outsmart most adults on the subject they're learning". I count myself properly rebuked, and find myself utterly incapable of matching the sheer intelligence of a young human. Oh were it that I were young again, so that I could be intelligent once more. Oh to be removed from my age enfeebled state and brought back to that place once again where I could put thought to words, and words to action, and know that it was intelligent. ;-) --Durin 04:34, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Durin, don't worry. One of us young whipper-snappers will be along shortly to put you out of your misery- er, retire you, I meant. --Maru(talk)No ads on Wikipedia. 04:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Now I'm worried; they're starting to euthanize anyone over 25! Merciful Jimbo! --Essjay·Talk 04:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
I heard Jimbo was really just a 14 year old boy! Damn, children start shaving earlier and earlier... Acetic'Acid 20:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for co-nominating me for adminship, the kind words are always appreciated. If you have any complaints (or suggestions) about my actions as admin, don't hesitate to contact me. -Greg Asche(talk) 02:43, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
You want to contact editors not everyone. The correct page would be MediaWiki:WatchdetailsGeni 03:20, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Ads in the side bar are bad enough. Banner adds are not going to improve matters.Geni 22:44, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
It's not a banner ad, it's news. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
It's an ad since it advertises the tool that answers.com seem to want people to use. We have news channels. The thing to think about is who you want to reach. People on slash dot may have an opinion but if they are not part of the community that doesn't really matter.Geni 22:55, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
They may or may not care but in the end it doesn't matter. This is something for the community to decide.Geni 23:25, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
We got a reasonble neumber of people. Now all the misscomunication is sorted out most people are accepting it. It should be interesting what the board are going to do now WP:TOOLs doesn't have tools on it any more.Geni 18:41, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Matt. I noticed you live in Bothell, and since I am thinking about applying for a job at UW Bothell, I though I would ask you what you think of the town (and the college, if you know anything about it). Thanks - Guettarda 05:05, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Bothell? Bot hell? Oh the irony :) --Durin 13:56, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
In an edit summary to WP:RFA you said, "rv titoxd, they only have to accept, they dont have to answer Q's yet...". This isn't accurate. According to commented out text on that page:
"Please note that new RfA policy states that ALL RfA nominations posted here MUST have both acceptance by the candidate and the answers to the questions on the subpage, or the nominations may be removed."
"Once this RfA subpage has been created, the nominator must explain on the RfA subpage why this nominee would make a good administrator, and the nominee must accept the nomination and answer the questions on the RfA subpage before it can be transcluded to the main RfA page."
Titoxd was accurate in removing the RfA for Anonymous editor. I guess all that young, high-speed thinking got in the way of good editing ;-) (it's a joke...relax...trying to make light of it...with your stress level you might not, but it really is a joke. Take it as such). --Durin 13:44, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
For what it's worth, no harm done. Although it's nice to know that I called one right! :) Titoxd(?!?) 22:39, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
*Please stop permabanning people using AOL sharedips every ten seconds I get block messages telling me I'm this blocked user or that blocked user, It's impossible to edit from AOL anymore, just about.. OMG, it's not even the same user, each time It tells me my ip has recently been used by "etc.. yada yada" and each time it's a different name, this is getting kind of silly, can you reset the autobans on AOLs shared proxies or what?--64.12.116.74 23:11, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf—thx for your nomination. I've signed. Tell me if you hate the dark green font colour for my responses, and I'll restore the black! Tony 02:54, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I think that the HTML comment that you left was a noble action. I certainly was going to add a vote, but then saw your message. That, coupled with the fact that he hasn't answered or commented, changed my mind. Good job. Bratschetalk | Esperanza 03:30, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for that then :) Redwolf24 (talk) 03:31, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for contacting me about that RFM. It would seem like a good idea as I honestly think there is a communication breakdown between us. He always seems to ignore my points, or twist things illogically. However, I just noticed a racist comment he left on my talk page which has heavily turned me off. This is not things a person should say if they want mediation. That said, I don't want to reject it outright, but at the moment, even dealing with this person can be stressful, so if possible, I'd like to abstain this proposal until Im ready to deal with it. Is that acceptable? OmegaWikipedia 06:25, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your vote of support at [Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sicilian Baroque]. I appreciate it. Giano | talk 18:00, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. I never thought I would get so much support! Thanks to your help, my nomination was the 10th most supported RfA in Wikipedia history. Now, please keep an eye out on me while I learn the new tools, ok? Thanks again! Titoxd(?!?) 18:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I am uninvolved in the revert war. I have not edited a single thing on that passage. Your reason for protecting the page (from the edit summary) was to stop the revert war. However, allow me to state for the record: the talk page was getting somewhere, and there was compromises and much good discussion. It was time to unprotect the page: especially as Slrubenstein appeared on the scene (he is very good with editing these type of pages). You should also note that I added material after I showed a friend the page and they immediately objected to the lead section stating that the Canonical Gospels mainly depict Jesus as just a Rabbi or spiritual leader.
I do apologise for not telling you, however - and also apologise for a) forgetting to delist it (brainfart!), and b) giving the impression that I unprotected it just so I could edit the page. This was not the case. As it so happens, my main change was reverted almost immediately (and I feel very unreasonably). I am currently discussing the revert on the talk page. - Ta bu shi da yu 23:41, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
It's cool. That's a difficult page to admin :-) Ta bu shi da yu 23:42, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Well I guess I recommend that you don't. Doesn't seem like a relevant dispute. Seems like some anonymous IP editor just came in for the sake of annoying others and inserting a ridiculous offensive picture. I think they already had in mind that they would seek mediation. Besides it will be 4 editors (Kwamikagami, FayssalF, JadeManiac and me) vs. 1, who hasn't returned again. Thank you --a.n.o.n.y.mt 00:44, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm still taking you up on the offer for mediation. He's harassing me and it's unacceptable. --File:Ottawa flag.pngSpinboy 02:19, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
I did post it at the recommended link, thank you. See comment below. --File:Ottawa flag.pngSpinboy 02:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Is there a formal process for reporting harassment? --File:Ottawa flag.pngSpinboy 02:21, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Not that I know of, but if you have good evidence you can file an arbitration case... Redwolf24 (talk) 02:27, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Ive noted a couple comments youve made re the Iraq War Medcom req. re Reddi's refusal to accept. Ive suggested it before: change Medcom policy to a proactive one and scrap the "required" agreement of parties. What do you think? (Ive not monitored Mediation-l too closely the past couple weeks). -St|eve 03:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Bring it up on the mailing list. But I don't understand how it would still be mediation if the other party doesn't accept, it just seems like you'd be asking for another opinion from a neutral party, and I believe WP:3O should do THAT. But if I'm mistaken with what your intent is, then bring it up on the mailing list. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:32, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
As an administrator you will be able to answer my question. Can anyone else besides an administrator speedy delete a page? --Dakota 05:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Nope. Nor delete a page. --Maru(talk)Contribs 05:56, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
You, or any Wikipedia user, can contribute your suggestions and comments to the /Workshop page of any active arbitration case. Comments on evidence or proposals can help in understanding the import of evidence and in refining proposals. Proposed principles, findings of fact, or remedies may be listed on /Proposed decision and form part of the final decision. Fred Bauder 14:48, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Why are you listing this here? Redwolf24 (talk) 00:32, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I think I know why you listed that there now. If it was about Stevertigo and people complaining about the arbcom, then you should know I was defending the medcom, telling people they should have complained while you guys were still deliberating, but someone just said we can't vote in arbcom decisions, but I said we can still talk to arbitrators... Redwolf24 (talk) 00:36, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Nothing to do with Stevertigo or complaints. Just an invitation to jump into the arbitration work at the /Workshop level. As you are a candidate I assumed you might be interested. You cannot vote but you can made proposals at /Workshop and comment on others proposals. Fred Bauder 03:52, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I am exasperated, see the archive for: Traditionalist Catholic. No progress on this article has been done. Outside consensus, every edit I make gets reverted by "usertobeanonymous". I am effectivle barred from contribution by this one person, who also makes personal attacks. I can't express NPoV, that Traditionalist Catholic does not universally mean bashing the Holy See (in Rome). Many traditionalists work within the system to reintroduce reverts to the reform, and I brought several examples of people who do just that, and several books that have that PoV. Instead this person brings in people from another site, with the same radical PoV, only to edit only this page. I can think of no other solution except to request Mediation. Dominick(ŤαĿĶ) 17:20, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Then file a mediation at WP:TINMC, as WP:RFM is swamped, and all the mediators on our committee are busy. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:32, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I saw the other person's comment above. I didn't make any comments which I intended to be racist. This person, who launched three blatant and obvious personal attacks at me in one day, including insults to my intelligence, likes to make up imaginary drama, and delude himself into thinking he's always right. You can remove the mediation request for all I care; I haven't the time to attempt to reason with people like that. If any future problems persist (which, knowing him, they probably will, becasue he is a problem user with a history of policy-breaking and edit-war instigation, involving several different editors), I'll handle them at that time. --FuriousFreddy 22:20, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
K, moved to inactive. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:32, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I've been out of touch with the happenings at Esperanza for a bit. Would appreciate any updates you have still! Cheers Donama 13:02, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Red, are you there, could you come to IRC? Bishonen | talk 17:29, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Never mind, it's moot now, as I've posted a comment on Tony1's RfA (that was what I wanted to discuss with you). See you! Bishonen | talk 18:50, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I still wanna talk to you about it. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Please block this user, I've tried to be nice, but this person is a troll. It makes articles that link to it's userpage, over and over again. PrivateButcher 20:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
That's no problem...just make sure you keep it NPOV. Please get it done by Sunday night; post a link to it on the newsroom page when you're done. Ral315(talk) 05:17, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf,
Great thanks for your nomination and comments. I wasn't prepared for the public character assassination and general nastiness, and would never have agreed to the nomination had I known I'd be up for so much pain and embarrassment. This has severely, and perhaps permanently, dented my enthusiasm for contributing to WP. It's just not worth it.
Cheers and thanks again. Tony 06:41, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Just a reminder: If you haven't already done so, you have until November 1st (00:00 UTC) to vote in the Counter Vandalism Unit Elections!FireFox 18:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Oooh, does that mean I get two-and-a-half votes? <grin> Thanks (to the nicest guy on wikipedia, BTW)! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:04, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Indeed. BTW, alert me if you are ever up for Bureaucrat again - you are one of the few users that one would think is already a bureaucrat. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:14, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
01:03, 23 October 2005 Essjay unblocked User:Durin (Mistaken block)
01:02, 23 October 2005 Redwolf24 blocked "User:Durin" with an expiry time of indefinite ({{impostor}})'
I've been known to feel like I'm an impostor of myself, especially on those mornings when my kids have kept me awake through the night. But, I don't think I've ever felt like an impostor of myself on Wikipedia. Maybe it's latent schizophrenia that I'm not aware of. Or, maybe it's all that high-speed young thinking on your part getting in the way again ;-) --Durin 02:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
It's all very sad and unexpected, and I can't see myself being kind about WP on the Internet. I'd appreciate your reading my last comments on the execution page concerning changing the process to avoid the trauma that appears to have been experienced by more than just me.
Thank you indeed for nominating me; I was flattered. Tony 13:28, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
In the future, when moving articles (such as Jack Thompson (attorney) to Jack Thompson) please be sure to move the talk pages (and archives) as well. Thanks! -Locke Cole 15:31, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Copied and pasteded message to follow:
Hi. You four ,(User:Acetic Acid, User:Essjay, User:Jobe6, User:Redwolf24), have all, at one time or another, offered to nominate me for adminship. I now feel ready to try, for the fourth time, and it will be my last, no matter the outcome. If any of you feel otherwise, please tell me. The same goes to anyone reading this who is not one of those listed above. Since four nominators would be a little much, and I don't care who nominates me (you are all good editors), please decide who it will be. Thanks. :) Howabout1Talk to me! 17:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Not sure what to do about this but he's leaving a trail of advertising behind him. I could revert him article-by-article but can anything more global be done? Dlyons493Talk 21:34, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Red, could you do me a favor and delete User:Mysekurity/Archive01? I've decided to use history archiving instead of full-text archiving, as a way of reducing the number of pages on my watchlist, decreasing server space, and keeping all active discussions current. If you wouldn't mind deleting that, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 23:31, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Red, thanks so much!!!!
I feel I have to talk to you, however. Please e-mail me or im me, but thanks so much! -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 00:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
There have been some issues with the user User:Tony Sidaway. I'm interested in filing an RfAr and it seems others are as well. One user is evidently gathering points to make at the RfAr [[79]]. Can I get your opinion? Agriculture 01:19, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, dude, but I could not resist. I will say 10 Ave Jimbo's and revert 10 vadals for my penance if you want me to! -- Psy guy(talk) 02:15, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Hooray! Grunge Music, Seattle, and Gray Wolf... I am LOVING the FA's. Someone get Red Wolf up to FA and I'll be ecstatic. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:19, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Just a reminder...if you wanted to get a story in about Wikipediology for the October 31 issue, I need it no later than 20:00 UTC (15:00 EST), or I can't guarantee it gets in. Ral315(talk) 06:48, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't make it to the convention...could we possibly postpone it to next week? Nah, that's okay...just wanted to make sure you weren't planning to get it in, but miss the deadline. CatherineMunro finished an article a minute after I went to press one week, and it had to wait till the next issue :) Ral315(talk) 06:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your support during my time here, unfortunately it seems Tony is very well placed. Undoubtedly due to my support for his RfAr, I am no falsely accused of sockpuppetry. Radient was good enough to unblock me, but given the users participating it is clear Tony and his ilk run Wikipedia. Quite frankly, this sort of abuse of the system and blatent mob style tactics is the last straw. I am leaving for good here. My only purpose in coming back was to fight this sort of thing, but given those involved, it's a battle that cannot be won. Goodbye and goodluck. Agriculture 16:07, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Jakes18 has gotten the notion that he wants the group Operation Rescue removed from its longstanding place on the List of terrorist organisations. I've reported his multiple 3RR violations in removing the listing, but the the whole 3RR noticeboard seems very backlogged (it looks like a number of five day old reports have not yet been addressed, not just this one that I reported). I confess that I've done most (but not all by any means) of the restoration of the old status quo (but with added citations and explanatory text) to address initially reasonable issues by Jakes18 (but carefully staying under 3RR myself in my restorations). His initial expression of doubt seemed reasonable, a refusal to accept any explanation or citation, or to seek consensus, is not.
FWIW, I had nothing to do with adding the listed group in the first place, I just don't like it being taken out purely as a way of advocating the actions of OR (while leaving in dozens of other groups with less solid provided evidence). Actually, I'm not really that excited about the inherent NPOV of the list in general, but given it's there, it ought to proceed with some consensus and verifiable evidence.
Anyway, I assume that eventually the 3RR will result in Jakes18 getting blocked for a little while. But then he'll be back again. I was hoping that in the meanwhile (and maybe for a bit longer than a 3RR block) you could protect the article itself to force editors to use the talk page and reach consensus, rather than just push an agenda. All the best. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 01:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks muchly, Redwolf24. I guess I'll try a "quick poll" on the talk page to see if that indicates a consensus. Polls are flawed, I know. But maybe if several editors weigh in, that will be something to point to as rough consensus. I don't think Jakes18 is an actual vandal, or generally ill-meaning. I just think he has let a political agenda get the better of his sense of WP consensus process. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 01:42, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I hadn't realized that page was there. I only knew about writing to a semi-random administrator to get a page protection. I've seen and respected some admin actions by Redwolf24, so his name jumped out when I looked through the list of active administrators. But if I need to request protection on something else in the future, I'll do it the right way. Thanks. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 01:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
RFPP is back logged as hell, I don't recommend going there. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:46, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
152.163.100.11. it was blocked by Curps cause it was used by "PopeBenedictXVI". a blocked user and cant edit a page. Could u unblock it thanks --JAranda | watz sup 02:54, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Here is another one 152.163.100.136 --JAranda | watz sup 04:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Hey there! I noticed that you were deleting a lot of redirects from the MediaWiki namespace. Can I help you out? Where are the list of redirects you are deleting? --HappyCamper 03:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Don't worry, I won't jump in until I feel thoroughly comfortable with what I'm doing. Is there somewhere I can read more about the purpose behind these deletions? --HappyCamper 03:51, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Very well then. But don't you burn out over those deletions! :-) That can be quite tedious - I highly recommend visiting this page every now and then - helps keeps the Wikipedian healthy and happy :-) --HappyCamper 03:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
<fortune cookie> My friend, you will live a very blessed life should that remain an eternal truth for you! :-) </fortune cookie> --HappyCamper 04:08, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf. An admin-type request for you. 63.41.192.53 (talk·contribs) (previously 63.41.192.123 (talk·contribs)) is going around and inserting a completely irrelevant link into Islam-related articles and trolling on talk pages. He/she was reverted before by numerous editors, but keeps reverting back to his/her version. Please block. Thanks --a.n.o.n.y.mt 05:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Done, feel free to revert. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:24, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Quick work on your part. :) Knew I could count on you. --a.n.o.n.y.mt 05:25, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
I am well aware what free use is, it also see "free alternative" and the new maps are not adiquate alternatives to what was, or is present, the are supplements not alternatives. Their for the fair use image has not been replaced. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:24, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for Supporting my RfA! I was sad to see some people vote on the extremely minor problem that I don't use edit summaries enough. I am attempting to get them to switch to Neutral or reconsider based on WP:Point and switch to Support. There should be rules to how people can vote at RfA, but oh well. Thanks again! — Wackymacs 06:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
I must say I don't get your vote on Wackymacs' RFA. He uses edit summaries about 60% of the time, therefore... he'll abuse the tools? I understand not lending your support for those, but really, is opposing him necessary? I'm not sending this message to Xoloz as his opposition makes a lot more sense, but edit summary percentage seems to have absolutely no connection to being an admin, other than it may be understandable that you want admins to be of the highest quality, but then again, we really need as many as we can get, provided they don't abuse them, and as far as I know, sub-70 edit summaries doesn't indicate abuse. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in replying to you. I wanted to give this question my full attention, as I feel it is an important one.
A big part of adminship is the enforcement of our rules and guidelines. When a police department looks at a potential candidate, the first thing they check is his or her criminal record. Even a high number of parking tickets can be an indication of a personality that isn't compatible with law enforcement.
Forgetting an edit summary seems like a very minor thing, but consistently forgetting to enter a summary for one out of every three or four edits is a symptom of a much deeper problem, I believe. Someone who casually ignores edit summaries is more likely to also do a sloppy job in closing AfDs, or properly warn vandals before blocking them.
I think it is no coincidence that Stevertigo, for example, has poor edit summary usage. He didn't stop using summaries when he was sysoped; he was always this way, but we chose to ignore this seemingly minor issue. In retrospect, this was a red light which should have indicated to us that we're dealing with someone who doesn't care about guidelines.
I don't expect everyone to meet my personal standards; I believe out of my last 1000 edits, 2 are missing an edit summary (and both caused me to cringe as soon as I pressed the "Save" button). This 99.8% rate may be too high a standard for most people; even 90% shows an editor takes this issue seriously. However, it is not unreasonable to demand that admins, who are essentially the face of Wikipedia, be expected to use edit summaries almost all the time. If we are to enforce guidelines and lead by example, our own behaviour should be exemplary. Owen×☎ 16:44, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
I have replied at the RfA. He just isn't good enough according to me. Why must you troll for votes? I know you aren't running, but why are you trolling for others? They don't need your help, I refuse to change my vote because I find the user is not deserving, I said I expect 75% when truely I expect 90% or more. But I don't get that, so stop trolling everytime I make a vote that doesn't go your way. Everyone always bothers me, I explained myself, and my vote, now you can let me alone. Everyone may feel you're their big friend, and all that bull, but you're just some guy on wikipedia, as I am, its an unimportant project that involves us all. We don't need thousands of admins. They should be the select great few, not every Joe Somebody that comes along should be an admin. Wackymacs is just a Joe Somebody, as are you. There have at it, turn everyone against me. PrivateButcher 19:25, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
/me turns against Private Butcher. --Maru(talk)Contribs 22:31, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
... feel this strong force pulling me towards PB... pulling... pulling... OMG... now I'm right against him... --hydnjotalk 00:00, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Okay I get it, ha ha ha, funny funny funny, get off me, all I was saying is that, I'm sure from what I said I'm going to be spun into a "problem user", thats "angry" and "violent" towards other users, and "unfit to continue using wikipedia", something like that. But fine, make fun of what I say, go right ahead. PrivateButcher 19:50, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Hello, I want to thank you for your support of my RfA. It is especially nice to have your support since I respect your edits very much. Best, Johntex\talk 00:10, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Im thinking about nominating my self for admin again in November 8th after all those impersonators of mine is getting way to much on my nerve and I just want to get that nice rollback and help Curps with those blocks. Should I and do u think it will pass or time and my Deletionest views 40% of my edits is in the Wikipedia namespace will kill it?. --JAranda | watz sup 00:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I think mine is going to be a close one like 70%-80% which I think is not engoth I think and a if I place it now and a guarrante after November 21th I feel like taking a risk now though --JAranda | watz sup 03:01, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I think that re-nominating might have been a mistake. I already got a oppose vote cause I can't spell --JAranda | watz sup 04:38, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Mine is going to be a VERY CLOSE one now and if I fail which is a strong possibly could u renominate me in mid December like the 21st if u can. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 20:05, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Withdrew my nomination in 18 support 11 oppose 7 Neutral and intead im just requesting a rollback button here Thanks for your support in my rfa anyways. --JAranda | watz sup 22:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Red, thanks again for the nom, and for the general friendlyness. Would you do me one more favor though, and archive all but the last 5 or six (pagemove, history, all that good stuff). If you could, that'd be really helpful. If not, I guess I'll just make a link or something. Thanks, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 02:10, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
It's unneccesary to do it that way on talk pages, really. All comment SHOULD be signed, and assuming there's no shenanigans like altering eachother's comments, you can just copy and paste move. Alternatively you can blank it and link it to before you did, but that wouldn't be too great considering there's active sections. The active sections also stop me from pagemove archiving, as even after I did it, I'd have to copy and paste back the ACTIVE stuff, which is a Bad Thing. Sorry, Redwolf24 (talk) 02:13, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your vandalism, and for pointing out how little I keep that thing updated. Way to hurt my feelings!! On one hand, I want my page to be as prettyful as it can be, but on the other, I feel I should be here more for the article editing than the socializing (as much as I love talking with you). Plus, my design abilities, uh...don't exist. Thanks for vandalizing my page, -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 03:18, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Matt. I'm back and ready to mediate if you want me. To that end, I have commented out your message on WP:RFM. If you feel any mediation requests on that page are currently feasible, please give them to me! Best wishes, [[Sam Korn]] 18:18, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Dear Redwolf24, I have been blocked although I am innocent. I apparently was blamed for excess vandalism to the Kirk Fogg Page. My IP is 64.12.116.136, and my user name is FireSpike. The "User is Blocked Page" also claims I was warned several times and was blocked three times already. Please free me of the block as soon as possible.
My name is Oliver Metz. I am a student at Brent International School, Manila, an International school located in the Philippines. I am doing my last year of school (12th Grade) and I am writing a research paper (about 4000 words) on Wikipedia in ITGS (Information Technology in a Global Society). Of 10 randomly picked people you have been chosen as one. If you are willing and have the time to answer a few questions I would be grateful if you could fill out a short questionnaire of 6 questions.
Some Information about my essay:
My essay topic is about the freedom to collaborate and the usage of the Internet as a tool to do so. I will analyze topics such as Altruism versus Egoism as well as the Product Wikipedia itself.
My Thesis Statement:
The Internet is not only a medium for communication, information and marketing but also a place for altruism, collaboration and cooperation. Wikipedia is the product of a voluntary collaborative effort that defies commonly held beliefs about human nature.
If you have any further questions or requests you would like to pose before filling out the questionnaire I'd gladly answer them.
you can write to:
taklung@gmx.net (I check this e-mail address regularly)
Questionnaire:
Please answer the following questions by either inserting the answers or sending them to me via e-mail. (*are not necessarily required).
Name*:
Age*:
Nationality*:
1. How long have you been contributing to Wikipedia?
2. Have you or are you planning to donate money to the Wikipedia cause?
3. When you first heard of Wikipedia and the concepts it is based on, what did you think about it and did you believe it could work? What do you think now?
4. Why do you think people contribute to Wikipedia? With it being voluntary what interests do/did you follow when contributing to Wikipedia?
5. Do you think that Wikipedia appeals to Altruism? If yes, do you think such a thing can exist in our society in which greed and consumption apparently drive the world?
6. What do you think makes Wikipedia most beneficial to society?
Further comments*:
With kind regards,
Oliver Metz --TakLung 00:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Just to let you know, your message on the arbitration page about not accepting any other cases for awhile has disappeared (you can still see it when you edit the page, but not in the saved version). I'm guessing you guys are still swamped in terms of cases. As soon you guys are accepting cases again, I would like to add one to your list. Davidpdx 02:59, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Please let me know what the difference between Acrobatics!acrobatic and acrobatic. I don't understand the new edit. Thanks (YSC Fan 15:47, 3 November 2005 (UTC)).
Hi, just letting you know that I reverted the revert you made to this article (which you probably don't remember, it was almost a month ago). I think you must have made it by mistake, there was no problem with the edits made by the anon. 82.13.42.177 18:47, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your confidence in regards to the Med Com, I didn't expect much as I pretty much went back there for you; but if I can ever assist with pro-active peacekeeping work, please let me know, I don't need any aristocratic bureaucracy jibberish telling me that I can't help make Wikipedia a more friendly place. To be honest, I'm thinking of starting my own "viligante" peacekeeping wikiproject. Wikipedia needs a more immediate front line presence in incivility and edit disputes that the Mediational System is too unwieldy and formal to handle in my opinion, and admins individually are often overwhelmed or underequipped to handle all those problems popping up on their own.
Also, one more thing, Don't ask me to work with Ral315 until he apologizes for those comments on the MedCom nomination, I was deeply offended by them. I'm a nice person, so I don't particularly enjoy "rivalries" such as what you described between Flcelloguy and Sam Spade before, but I don't particularly enjoy being around him from what i've seen of him so far, and I'd prefer to stay away from him for that sake unless his demeanor changes for civility's sake. Karmafist 16:21, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I needed to remove that adminship nom from the Main RFA page as he didn't accept it yet, under policy . When he accepts you could just place it back in there. I hope u dont mind ;) --JAranda | watz sup 03:10, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh nevermind he accpeted opps :p Sorry --JAranda | watz sup 03:11, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Need a favor as no one is blocking this User:Pablo Agosto who is a impersator of User:Paul August in Spanich I need u to finish the block to infinite. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 04:54, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Just so you know, I withdrew my Mediation nom due to this:
"Oppose. User disagrees with the fundamental nature of mediation. --Improv 19:43, 4 November 2005 (UTC)"
This is poorly though out, contradicts 3+ paragraphs of mine right on the nomination(where I massively discoureg sysop power in mediation), puts straw-man words into my mouth, and is stictly wrong; It is therefore obviously just idiotic pile-on votes(I expect more from a mediator). Whenever an RfA/RfB/RfM has pile-on votes, you have already lost. I have seen this kind of thing happen so much I almost want to leave Wikipedia, like V Molotov did...just look at my user page...:-(.
Actually, just one oppose would kill a mediator, which explains why you guys are so overwhelmed with cases...not a very good system obviously.
Furtunetely,with you, Essjay, and Flcelloguy et al, the committee should hold together :-).Voice of AllT|@|Esperanza 03:16, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:SeattleSonics.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.
Redwolf, I have put in a request for mediation that was essentially denied by one of your committee. It is one that involves POV content put into Dominion of Melchizedek as well as other articles. This is a problem that has gone on for some time. As I have stated on the mediation page, I don't understand the reason the request was put in the request for comment section. Myself and others have tried this before and there are never enough comments to gain a new consensus.
Furthermore, Johnski's constant reverts are getting to the point it's rediculous. As I said on the mediation page, no one seems to be willing to deal with this problem. The content he is posting hurts the creditablity of Wikipedia. I urge you to look at this and reconsider allowing this to be mediated. Davidpdx 09:37, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
There is a severe case of user page vandalism by a user called User:Mexican G. All he does is vandalising user pages with the safeness of AOL IPs. He also creates disruptive socks involving me, Titoxd, Curps, and CambridgeBayWeather. Do u know if that user is a person to heavyly concern. --JAranda | watz sup 03:01, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Can you block this and check with User:Purplefeltangel to confirm the imposter/doppelganger status? Cheers, Alphaxτεχ 03:38, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Impostor, blocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:41, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Haha, Curps got their first as usual (check the block log). Alphaxτεχ 03:44, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
The real Purplefeltangel Quit and wanted to quit so bad that she moved a page to on wheels and got infinte blocked by Curps Email her --JAranda | watz sup 03:42, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
That's too bad... :( Alphaxτεχ 03:44, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Well that really sucks, I didn't know about that. I think that if she wanted to come back we could allow for extrenous (sp) circumstances. «»Who?¿?meta 03:47, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Emergency alert. Almost every AOL Ip im using now is blocked by OwenX and I cant not even talk to him cause I cant edit 205.188.166.134. is one Need a speedy unblocking on that one --JAranda | watz sup 03:56, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
11 AOL Ips He blocked for 48 hours and Im using at least 6 of them now. One of those Ips wont let me place the godlight rollback button. And another wont edit my user page or sandbox. Need all those Ips unblocked and quick--JAranda | watz sup 04:03, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
I just wanted to tell you I'm sorry. I was mean, called you a Joe Somebody, and an undeserving user. I am really sorry, I mean everything's just been getting to me. But its no excuse, and then you told me good luck, and I just felt extremely bad that I was mean to you and you could still be nice to me. I am really sorry, I'm sure I made you feel bad, I hope you forgive me for what I said. I was being a bastard, I know, how about this, when I get back in a month I'll be a much better person, and never be mean or hurtful to anyone ever again, I swear. Bye Redwolf24. PrivateButcher 04:04, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Apology accepted, and good luck again. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:07, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Red, thank you so much (again, and again) for nominating me and voting (first...riiight) to support yours truly. I shall wield my powers for good, as best I can, and try to avoid blocking you for more than 17 seconds, if I can help it. Your support means a great deal, and I hope to see you around all your favorite admin haunts. You may contact me at any time for any reason, just im, and I'm there. Gotta love cable.
Anyway, thanks so much again; I've always wanted the ability to actually do something with these cool powers, and you've given than that to me. Thank you, and happy editing. See you around, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 21:26, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your support on my RfA. I will use my new abilities with the common interest in mind. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.
I'll try to live up to the new tag [81]! You have shamed me into being more active; I haven't done any serious RC patrol for quite a while. Time to fire up CDVF, methinks. Cheers! TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:20, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Aiye, no problem. You've been an admin longer than myself anyway, have you not? :) Redwolf24 (talk) 23:30, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
You said on the Esperanza members list page she changed her screen name. What is it? Is Lisa still going to be a member of Esperanza? — Moeε 22:14, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Classified information, but she is still a member. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:30, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Have I missed something? Is this just someone who doesn't know what's going on, or am I starting to lose it? -- Essjay · Talk 01:35, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Take a look at Wikiwoohoo's first edit (August 7, 2005). Sango123(talk) 01:40, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm...Still, unless they're willing to reveal that information, they'll have to go through the process just as anyone else. We wouldn't let someone show up and say "I used to be RickK" and automatically give them admin status; we'd make them prove they are who they claim to be. Red, would you look into this? -- Essjay · Talk 01:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Even if there was proof stating that they used to be (fill in the blank, could be one of those mediators who left wikipedia), I'd still make them run a normal mediator nomination. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
It keeps signing me out. I've not been able to get on all day. I'm going to reboot and try again in case it makes a difference, but if I don't turn up, you'll know it didn't work. SlimVirgin(talk) 04:18, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
K, thanks for the effort. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:27, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, it won't let me in. Don't know what's wrong with it today. SlimVirgin(talk) 04:52, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Aw, I wanted to talk about Ramallite... some other time then. Alternatively there's IRC ;-) See ya Redwolf24 (talk) 04:56, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry you found reason to object to my adminship, but now that I've been promoted, I'd like to clear the slate. If you have any specific issues/problems with me, please feel free to state them on my talk page so that I can work to prevent them in the future. ALKIVAR™ 07:23, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Please remove the protection or edit Template:Wikify to make it similar to other cleanup templates, like Template:Cleanup and those listed therein. Thanks. -- Perfecto 17:59, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I'll remove the protection. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
The final outcome was (96/2/0), so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any queries about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Again, thanks!
Could you take a gaze at Talk:John Kerry? Rex is basically out of control. As you probably know, he's been back from a self-imposed 6 month exile for about the last 3 weeks...before the 6 months, he'd been banned for 4. Anyway, they came to a consensus about John Kerry's injury that led to his first Purple Heart by using the word wound. For the last 200K of discussion (no I am not kidding), Rex has tried to buck consensus. Every possible way has been used to convince him that the consensus is for wound and that he needs to just accept it and move on. But he's gotten obsessive. He's not quite as bad as BD777, but still. Could you take a look and just give me an opinion on it as to whether you would consider him a troll? He is literally costing editors days by pounding away on the same issue 7-8 times in the same day. it's gotten to the point where some of the editors (kizzle and katefan) can't do anything else but respond to him. Thanks as always. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 13:41, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I've seen Rex around, and he seems rather... headstrong, but in my own opinion, he's not a troll. I wouldn't know what to recommend, perhaps filing something at WP:3O? Redwolf24 (talk) 01:14, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
I was the one who stumbled onto the article as a WP:PP, and in my opinion, there was a significant consensus to the version I reverted to. I was completely uninvolved when I came into the dispute, so I'm not sure WP:3O will do anything. I suggest WP:RFM. Titoxd(?!?) 01:21, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
As I have said repeatedly, there are previous ArbComm judgements regarding this issue that need to be enforced: [82]. Specifically, Remedy 5 and Enforcements 6 and 7. Also take a look at the other two ArbComm cases against Rex: [83][84]. An RFM would be pointless, I'm sure it would follow the same course as the multiple previous RfCs against Rex: [85][86]. The same problems that caused the first 3 RfAr's to be filed are still being committed by Rex. In fact it's the same transgressions over the same article: John Kerry. If the previous ArbComm judgements are enforced and Rex is still causing problems, then this needs to proceed immediately to RfAr. The issues haven't changed and 3 previous ArbComms is more than enough of an attempt to resolve these issues. -- Mr. Tibbs 08:10, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Also, see Rex's violation of the 3RR on this: [87]. This is particularly relevant to Enforcement 7 of Rex's first ArbComm case. -- Mr. Tibbs 08:27, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Well thanks for looking, redwolf. I appreciate it. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 08:51, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf24, sorry about all that with the Mediator list, I forgot I had to be nominated and chosen first. I've put my name down on the nomination list and have joined the Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal user list. Thanks for spotting things and for your help. Wikiwoohoo 19:02, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Durin is becoming a very bloody battle and now threats including one legal are flying in between Durin and Kelly Martin. See here User talk:Durin. I dont know what do as this is so far the worst conflect I saw so far. Maybe u can calm down the peace between those two. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 03:49, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Uhh, Durin's gone. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:53, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
You can ask, but unless you give me a bit more context to the question you probably won't get a meaningful answer. It was "random users" until not too long ago, but someone changed it. So, other than exactly what it looks like, what are you thinking? No to mention, I was about to add you in but now I'm afraid to. brenneman(t)(c) 05:09, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Having been completely disarmed by your guile-less emoticon, I'll abandon my earlier caution - I'm an unrepentant Wiki-stalker. With over 800,000 articles (and 23 good ones) often the easiest way to see what's intersting is to follow around people who are clever or active or even quarrelsome. I rotate people in and out as the fancy takes me. With the exception of the tragic twosome locked in their eternal struggle, of course, they stay always.
So now will you come clean and tell me what you were thinking with your slightly pointed question? Does it look like I've got my "Black Books" there for eveyone to see or something? Because they are actually hidden where no one will ever look. brenneman(t)(c) 00:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Sometimes it's the simplest things that get you in trouble. If there are more than three lines of text there, it screws up the layout. I've just paired up the longest user name with the shortest, second longest with second shortest... I'll now be compelled to try and make some hidden meanings in there. - brenneman(t)(c) 01:24, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
It might be best to make clear that your objection to the description gay is only when used in the perjorative. Whenever someone calls me gay ( it happens a lot when u r a boy with long hair) I point out that I only object to the description because it is used in the perjorative.
I am sorry if you got the impression that I thought you had ever used gay in the perjorative. I simply wished to comment that it was best that when people objected to being described as gay they made it clear that they only objected to the perjorative use. I thought this was appropriate to communicate to you since at least 1 person seams to have persistently used gay in the perjorative when speaking about you. I aplogise if I caused any offence. Dolive21 00:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
In the article Circumcision advocacy there is some information about Dr Jesin, a Canadian General Practitioner and vigorous advocate for circumcision. He published a webpage about the medical benefits claimed for circumcision which he has copied from Circlist.
This is no secret, I might add. He acknowledges Circlist's copyright at the end of the webpage [88]. This is described in the article thus:
In Ontario, Canada, Dr Aaron Jesin, a General Practitioner, runs a circumcision clinic. His website reproduces a Circlist webpage containing articles from before the year 2000 on the medical benefits claimed for circumcision [89].
Now Jake Waskett keeps on removing the four highlighted words and I keep putting them back. We have discussed the dispute in great detail on the talk page to no avail [90]
Can you suggest any way out of this impass? i think it is important to mention where Dr Jesin got his information. Michael Glass 14:11, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting the page - I hadnt noticed that particular revert war - had been watching the other ones. This is completely stupid of both of them. I hadnt realised that the situation had got this bad. Justinc 01:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
How can I get IRC? -- PRueda29Ptalk29 02:25, 11 Novemer 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I downloaded mIRC (though it's only a 30 day evaluation trial for now), and logged onto wikipedia-en. -- PRueda29Ptalk29 02:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering if you'd protect this page. I'm somewhat involved... not one of the main parties, just trying to get compromises and agreement, but it doesn't seem that has exactly worked. I would protect it but after accusations against partisan protecting by SlimVirgin it seems like it's wise not to do it myself. If you could at least look at the situation that would be great. grenグレン 02:58, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes this is getting out of hand. Every few hours User:CltFn comes back and reverts to a random version. --a.n.o.n.y.mt 03:00, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Actually the photo at Obesityis now censored, contrary to Wikipedia policy. But there's an uncensored version still around at another article. --Angr/tɔktəmi 10:11, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Actually, it isn't. Someone called Marudubshinki saw fit to delete it. I'm restoring it, though. --Angr/tɔktəmi 10:18, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, I don't know. I hit the "restore" button, but the image still isn't there at the image page. Nevertheless it is there at Chubby culture again. I'm confused. --Angr/tɔktəmi 10:24, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
But then why is the picture there again at Chubby culture? It wasn't before I hit the restore button, and now it is. --Angr/tɔktəmi 10:35, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf24, Thank you for having enough confidence in me to nominate me for adminship. I did not think that I would even be viable for a few more months. I sincerely appreciate it and I hope I can live up to your expectations. I will try my best to be a good administrator. If you ever need anything, just let me know. Thanks again! -- Psy guy(talk) 16:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:36, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Are there any problems with my dynamic IP address? Sometimes I forget to log in using my nickname "Onefortyone" and then one of these IPs the DHCP gives me appears, for instance: 80.141.233.227, 80.141.220.190, 80.141.246.173, 80.141.248.206, 80.141.223.37, 80.141.230.251, 80.141.247.20, 80.141.241.215, 80.141.228.67, 80.141.236.221, 80.141.209.177, 80.141.224.70, etc. etc. Onefortyone 15:08, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to help, as I've had some experience guiding newbies. I've also got admin powers, remember, which, if needed, are at my disposal. I think it's very cool that Linuxbeak got both JaraxleArtemis and MARMOT to agree to play nice. What do you think? Bratschetalk | Esperanza 04:46, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Why did you delete my user page? Alex Schenck (that's Linuxbeak to you) 05:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
While I do appreciate the thought, I would also appreciate it if you informed me of something like that *before* you go ahead and do it. I know you meant good, but you scared me a little. Plus, those edits are still there... Alex Schenck (that's Linuxbeak to you) 05:16, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for the warm welcome, Matt! It's great to be back! Of course, you actually didn't expect me to go without hugging you, did you? There we go: Huggzzz... tight! Shaurismile!21:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Lol, you're crazy, you know that? Now I know why I've missed you :) Shaurismile!22:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf, I just happened upon your bootcamp. Let me tell you I wish I had known about that 3 months ago, that would have been very helpful. Here's a band for you to try Breaking Benjamin, and the bands your gonna try out, well Smashing Pumpkins is a good one. (I'm biased Billy Corgan is like my second cousin through marriage) Chicago again I'm biased. (I'm from Chicago) Same thing with Disturbed. I also like to leave jokes, to Wikipedians, that I find helpful. (my text version of a barnstar I guess) so here you go.
Howard is feeling guilty. No matter what he tries to forget about it, he can't. The guilt and sense of betrayal are overwhelming. Every once in a while he hears a soothing voice trying to reassure him, "Howard, don't worry about it. You are not the first doctor to sleep with one of his patients and you won't be the last." But invariably the other voice brings him back to reality, "Howard, you're a veterinarian." KnowledgeOfSelf | talk. 22:41, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I was seriously intrested in the mediation aspect of Wikipedia. I was a Peer Mediator for three years twice in high school and once in Jr high. But this doesn't seem to be the same as Wikioedia's mediation . Maybe you could explain it a little better than Mediation does. I mean is there a community consensus like RfA? Thanks for all the help including that boot camp lol :-D KnowledgeOfSelf | talk. 22:56, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I've reinstated the block; my reasoning and evidence that FCYTravis violated 3RR and Wyss did not is on the AN/3RR page. This does not mean that I think Wyss is "right" or that some other admin might not have reason to take action against him for disruption, etc. But by the letter of the policy, FCYTravis stepped over the particular line at issue. I'm more than willing to discuss this on my talk page or at AN/3RR if you like. Nandesuka 15:16, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Ted Wilkes reverted just as many times. FCYTravis did not blanket revert on the first revert, he changed a few sentences. He wasn't dodging 3RR as this was his first revert, and I doubt that he expected a revert war, I mean he DID use Rollback the last two times. Wikipedia has rules like IAR to ignore bureaucracy, and to let us know that it's not the rules, its the reason behind the rules' creation. 3RR is here to stop edit warring and disruption, but you can not honestly think that FCYTravis was more disruptive and Ted Wilkes and Wyss. Just do whatever you please though. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
This is small and I feel dumb. But I heard over at the wikipedia livejournal community that someone turned off the automatic closing of tags... which explains why my sig looks so funny. The only thing is I can't figure out what needs closing or what is otherwise invalid markup. Got an idea? <font color="#663366">Jacqui</font><sup> [[User_talk:Jacqui M Schedler|★</sup>]] 01:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Never heard of that... Why are you using < ? Use the normal symbol instead.... Redwolf24 (talk) 23:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
It got fixed. I'm still not sure what the problem was, but it was printing entities instead of html, said someone on my talk page. Whatevs. :) Jacqui★ 23:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I have downloaded MySQL and Apache. Now what? How do I enable range blocking, where is this php file? Why is MediaWiki always painfully confusing compared to the other wikis? Thanks.Voice of All(MTG) 07:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
...You don't need MySQL or Apache to block! It says you have to enable that if you own your own MediaWiki. You'd have to be a dev to turn it on or off. You just type in the address and suffix to range block, but don't do it unless you know what you're doing. If you don't you can tell me the starting and end point you wanna block and I can just do it for you. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
yeah, you gotta know your binary. If you the first 6 digits as the qualifier to get blocked, typing in 6 will actually give you the first 6 bits. What this does depends on the specific IP range. I believe IPs have binary based on the "." division right? So if I want to block 121.85.23.186->121.85.23.200 I convert the last digit bloc to binary. I know that you count like 128,64,32,16,8,4,2,1. So 186 is 128+0+32+16+8+0+2+0 which is 10111010. 200 is 128+64+0+0+8+0+0+0 which is 11001000. This is were I get confused: how do I set the number after the "/"???Voice of AllT|@|ESP 01:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
The number after the / is the block you want to terminate. 121.85.23.186->121.85.23.200, possible blocks include 121.85.23.186/24 (which blocks 121.85.23.*) 256 addresses, 121.85.23.186/25 (.128 to .255) 128 addresses. Any lower ranges you would have to do multiple blocks. Blocking 128 addresses shouldn't be too dangerous, but remember to list it at WP:AN. To teach you to fish: You take the first digit of the two binary numbers that is DIFFERENT (i.e. a 0 and a 1) and cut it there. But remember there were 24 numbers in front of those ones. 10111010 and 11001000 have the 2nd digit different (btw, make sure each block is 8 binary digits, i.e. if it was 35, then the binary representation would be 00100011). Take one digit before the different digit (so 1 in) and add to the previous binary numbers which we already know are the same (24 digits) and you get /25. Anything else? Redwolf24 (talk) 01:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks :)!!!That makes sense. Now I can mass block...muhahahah!!!Last time I read a MediaWiki page at 2:30 in the morning!Voice of AllT|@|ESP 03:32, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
You can only block 65 thousand addresses at a time, so it's not THAT great ;-) Redwolf24 (talk) 03:42, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
The bans on the anon* sockpuppets expires in about an hour...I only banned them for 48 hours. If they come back, we should probably do indefinites and see if we can get them added to the "illegal username" list. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 23:18, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Should have blocked indefinitely the first time. Illegal username won't be necessary... Plus all were throwaway accounts, so I doubt the same ones will show up. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I award you this barnstar of General Awesomeness for being an overall cool guy, even surpassing the big Jimbo. Keep of the good work.-Voice of All(MTG)
So far, so good on MARMOT. He had an potentially adversarial edit summary and reiterated a talk page edit of his from a few months ago, but nothing bad. What do we do other than that? Just watch him? Say hey every now and then? Fill in updates somewhere? Not a big deal, just curious Karmafist 05:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Mentifex is some word made up by Maru for the four founders of the mentcom. MARMOT's apology (Linuxcunt->Linux can't) was rather disappointing, but nothing to bug him about. He seems to be doing fine enough. Watch him, make sure he doesn't do anything stupid (if so then block on sight) but also offer him help if needed. No update log is necessary, cept maybe keep one in yer mind. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:15, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I didn't make up Mentifex. Google it. --Maru(talk)Contribs 20:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I've blocked MARMOT for two weeks, at his request on IRC. Apparently he had written a new and improved vandalbot and was sorely tempted to set in into operation. --Maru(talk)Contribs 20:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Redwolf24, I've suspended the mediation between Cberlet and Nobs01 and updated the appropriate sections at WP:RfM. Cberlet requested that the mediation be suspended after he filed an ArbCom case regarding tangentially-related matters (which weren't discussed in the mediation), and because Arbitration takes precedence over mediation and both Cberlet and Nobs01 are plaintiff/one of the defendants in the case, I've done so. I'm now open to take another case because Arbitration will most likely take a long time to conclude; when the ArbCom case concludes I won't mind having two mediations if both parties agree to come back to mediation afterwards. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:30, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
What did I do?! No seriously, thanks. A ton. But I'm curious, what prompted that? Dmcdevit·t 03:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Just good interaction lately. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Ah. Well in any case, I'm flattered. A barnstar from far-famed Redwolf24, no less. It's funny, two weeks ago, I had no barnstars after 11 months here. Now I apparently have four! I don't think I've changed... :-) Dmcdevit·t 03:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I'll trade you a Redwolf24 for an Ingloolemo ;-D I guess people have just started to notice you *shrug* :D Redwolf24 (talk) 03:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I would like to thank you for supporting me on my RfA. It closed with the final tally of 57/0/0. I can only hope I can live up to the expectations that this wonderful community of ours demands from each of its administrators. If you ever need anything, please just let me know. Cheers! -- Ianblair23(talk) 04:51, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! Oh, dear: I see you've been speaking with some friends of mine who happen to play in the Uncyclopedia (I would spend time there, but my sense of humor was surgically removed at birth: it's a religious thing). It's nice to be back, even if I won't have nearly as much of a presence as I once did (at least not for a while). – ClockworkSoul 04:59, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh, by the way, I do know you. Reciprocally, I'm actually very surprised that so many people noticed that I was missing, including some I've never had the pleasure to know. – ClockworkSoul 05:08, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to ask those fellows who have not indicated whether or not they grant permission for a wikibio on them to please do so soon. I'd also appreciate it everyone could expand or create the wikibios for which permission has been granted. The wikibio project simply won't be useful unless fellows actively participate; so I'd like to issue a challenge that each fellow contribute at least one sentence to two wikibios. I'll be on wikibreak for the next week and when I get back there will be prizes in store for the fellows who have the three highest edit counts on wikibios. Thanks. -JCarriker 22:55, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I would like this aticle to be protected and look like this[[91]]. The tag could NOT be removed by vandals, but the rest of the article would be editable(unless the template was protected as well). This will give are readers some forewarning to the possible POV vandal, and perhaps, with a bit of tag re-wording(or links), they might learn how to revert it themselves.Voice of AllT|@|ESP 23:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I just modified the test page tag a bit.Voice of AllT|@|ESP 23:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I wouldn't recommend such a tag. We clean up everything fast enough anyway, and if you see something like 'is a stupid prick' you should know it's been vandalized. I don't like the edit link either as it may get people to try and remove vandalism manually, which could lead to missing some vandalism. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Please provide a set of diffs showing that you have attempted dispute resolution prior to your filing of this RfA, as required by Wikipedia policy. Moreover, please provide a short summary as to your interest in this matter, and a short summary of what you think you think the disagreement involves. Your RfA summary doesn't explain any of that. Thanks. Wyss 23:50, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
If you'd take a look at the template it says 'why such attempts would be fruitless'. Don't try and call technicalities on this, it's a request to merge to a previous case. Also it'd be appreciated if you said RfAr rather than RfA. As for my interest: this is not something I have to explain, and in fact my only reason is because I feel you two are harassing Onefortyone. That's my interest, harassment sucks. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Since you have demonstrated zero effort towards dispute resolution, and seem unable to cite any meaningful efforts towards dispute resolution by others, I respectfully suggest that your request for arbitration is in violation of Wikipedia policy and that you withdraw it. Otherwise, your actions could be considered as abusive and harrassment. Thanks. Wyss 00:12, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Disagreement from me, if it's out of policy (which it most certainly is NOT) then the arbcom will decide that. I'm not trying to get you banned, I'm trying to get you to stay away from Onefortyone. Fred Bauder has told you to lay off, and yet you two continue. If the arbcom makes it official, then harassing him will be a blockable offense. I am not harassing you as I'm not really prosecuting you and the only 'punishment' I hope for is a restraining order. There are 30 million things to do at wikipedia, you two seem to be focusing on Onefortyone. Do something more productive. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:18, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Since you can't describe the dispute, I don't see how you could determine that arbitration is needed or helpful. 141 is already under probation and you'll note that I haven't touched the articles since Fred Bauer contacted me. I have not violated any WP policies. I think you're taking revenge on me for trying to explain Ted Wilkes' action on Fred Bauer. I think that's an abuse of your admin status. Wyss 00:38, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm not friends with Fred Bauder (with a d), so no, I'm not taking revenge. Bauder has also chastized me before, so no, I'm not working on his behalf. I am not abusing admin status, and in fact admin status is not a big deal - wikipedia is not a hierarchy. The only way to abuse admin status is to block, delete, or protect (or unblock, undeleted, or unprotect) outside of policy. But back to the dispute - the RfAr was filed more against Ted Wilkes than yourself, but of course you're involved too. If you really have left Onefortyone alone, then what do you have to fear? I elaborate: I'm not trying to get you banned, put on probation, or otherwise; I'm trying to get a restraining order. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
You're contradicting yourself. An attempt to get a "restraining order" is an attempt to procure a sanction. However, you're apparently almost completely ignorant of the circumstances surrounding 141's edits to the articles. As a result, you have no way of knowing whether or not what you're after would be helpful or not. As such, it's abusive and since you have admin status it's even more so. Meanwhile, I'd like to remind you that 141 is on probation. Wyss 00:51, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
I know he's on probation, and I'd like people who aren't Wyss and Ted Wilkes to enforce this. You're contradicting yourself when you say you've left him alone, but you fear a restraining order. If someone made it illegal for you, and only you, to perform open heart surgery in space, you probably wouldn't care. It's not something you do, or ever plan to do. So what's your problem with getting one from Onefortyone? I fear you will in fact return to harassing 141. 141 has made some contestable edits, but you seem to be reverting every edit he makes on any celebrity article. Let someone else do it, he's not banned! And once again, my admin status has nothing to do with anything. If I block you indefinitely, then you can call it admin abuse. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:58, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
What makes you think I fear a restraining order? Anyway, I haven't harrassed 141. If you had researched the issue even casually, you'd know that. We can end this exchange but please understand that I do think you're harrassing me. Wyss 01:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Really, I had Ted Wilkes in mind when I filed the RfAr, and I have researched it. 141 is more often than not a POV pusher, but the way you two have been handling it hasn't been satisfactory. Coupled up with Wilkes' exchanges with Bauder and Martin, it's been a burden to the community even. I originally had no bias against you, but when you say I'm being an abusive admin like this it too can be considered harassment. I care more about Wilkes getting a restraining order though. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:11, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
If you originally had no bias against me then please remove my name from the RfAr. It is unwarranted and un-neccessary. I haven't touched the articles since Fred Bauder contacted me (even if I did express my unhappiness with how he handled that). Wilkes' RfAr against Bauder is an entirely different subject and I violated no WP policies in attempting to explain Wilkes' reasoning for it (although when 141, a WP user on probation, injected himself into the conversation, which had nothing to do with him, I expressed my opinion of his edits). Please remove my name from the RfAr, Redwolf24. I can accept that it was a misunderstanding with no harm at all intended. Wyss 02:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Would that be fair? I think if you're innocent, it'll be shown. The worst thing that could happen would be to keep you away from Onefortyone, which shouldn't be a big deal as you say you've already stopped that. But at the same time reopening the case may allow the arbcom to change its past decision. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:18, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
That is not acceptable. The RfAr is unfair. I haven't touched the articles since Fred Bauder contacted me. There is no reason for a restraining order. As a result of this discussion, hearing your side and pondering the timing, I now understand that your RfAr is simple revenge against me for my contributions to the RfAr talk page re Fred Bauder, in which I broke no WP policies. You cannot possibly assert that if I had not participated in that discussion about Fred Bauder yesterday that my name would be in your RfAr concerning 141 today. I'm being punished ("railroaded" as another editor put it) in a backhanded, dishonest manner in order to evade WP policy. That is reprehensible, a form harrassment in direct violation of WP policy and an abuse of your admin status (and please don't criticize me for defending myself against it). Wyss 02:37, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
It's not revenge and of course I abhor you saying such a thing. I'm not friends with Fred Bauder! I've interacted with him twice, it's not revenge. But when you say I'm abusing admin status you don't really compell me to remove your name from the RfAr. This is about 141, I don't care about Fred Bauder's RFAR, Fred can handle himself and he's had much worse than that while on the committee. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:43, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
I just saw this on Cryptoderk and wanted to check what's up. This conversation seems to be going nowhere, but from my experience as an admin, endless conversations like these often go nowhere. Can we please move along? Karmafist 01:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I tried to make a text only barnstar it worked but wouldn't let me upload it so sorry about that one. I'm reworking on it though I hope to have it to you soon. :-D I've been looking over WP:MC/S that looks like an archive. Where would I go to nominate myself? Or would that be considered bad form like nominating yourself for a RfA?. Thanks KnowledgeOfSelf | talk. 02:39, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
You list yourself at WP:MC, and everyone nominates themself. Use a template from a previous nomination (like my own, or Wikiwoohoo's which I haven't taken down yet) for yours. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:44, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks so much sir! I;m going to read and study the contents of Wikipedia:Mediation before making my choice again thanks so much. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk. 03:00, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for that note (and good point). Something you might wanna consider, however, is that items inside comment tags are not wikified (because they aren't seen by users. You might want to go back and add that yes, this is the infamous Redwolf24 who has spoken. Thanks again, and happy editing, Mysekurity 05:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the proposal on my talk page. You said, "Obviously enough you can talk about ON with myself and Taxman, even before he accepts this," so I am bringing up the subject according to that.
On my talk page, I asked if it would be OK if I suggested a couple of articles for your consideration as external links. It will not be every single article on ON, but just those that have previously had support from admins but were removed due to the blanket decision. They will also not be used as references (where they would be inappropriate), but are suggested for use as external links where more information can be obtained. If you'd like, we can do the discussing via email to avoid wasting time on talk pages. However you'd like to go about it is fine; I don't want to cause any trouble or step over any boundaries.
Let me know what you think. Uriah923 06:00, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm curious about your reply. You mentioned that the articles have been found to not be notable enough to be included. However, how can you make that determination when you haven't read them? Do you even know to what articles I am referring? If you don't and are simply basing your decision on the the fact that ON articles have been found unworthy of being used as references, I would ask that you look at the existing external links on the majority of WP sites. Most of them would not qualify as references, but they are included.
I urge you to at least allow me to recommend the articles so that you might consider them and the comments made concerning them by other users (listed on my talk page) before making a sweeping decision.
Oh, and thanks for the signature modification tip. uriah923(talk) 00:21, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I have a random question. How do you modify your signature? I've seen others with different colors and links to their talk pages. Uriah923 06:05, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
..on my talk page and for your kind words. It is much appreciated. Thankfully I'm back and ready to dive into the editing! Thanks again. Banes 10:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Ryu mediation moved to inactive; Locke Cole rejected the mediation because of an ongoing community poll, which is what I would have suggested anyways. Open again. :-) Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:20, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you, and I believe I will accept. I'm flattered, and I hope that my fellow wikipedians think of me as highly as you have. It's an honorfor someone to even consider nominating me, let alone someone as respected as you. Thanks again, and I appreciate it. Out of curiosity, what brought my name to your attention?--Sean|Black 01:45, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for supporting me for adminship. The RfA passed today. I look forward to working with you to make Wikipedia a better place. --Nlu 03:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Recently, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashad_Khalifa has ben protected by an admin (Ragib) to deliberately block an alternative point of view regarding an allegation. The admin has protected it citing "vandalism", which is horribly unfair to anyone reading the discussion on the issue. The matter is simply an edit dispute in the way and manner the allegation is represented to the public.
I need your help to unprotect the page. It is simply unfair for Ragib to block the page.
Thanks for taking the time to correct the "vandalism" part and also restoring my faith in Wiki. It was really unfair to term edit war as "vandalism". If you had seen the history, I had consistently reverted to an edit which I found less tabloidistic but like you correctly mention in Ragib's talk page, POVs in certain cases are extremely subjective. There are always multiple views on controversial historical figures. And thats why we all love democracy...because of the diverse opinions and the freedom to air those opinions. I agree there is an edit war and don't mind the page being protected on that count, and this was expected because the page is about an individual who is extremely controversial in the Islamic world and are people are divided on this issue.
Thanks for uploading Image:JeanJacquesGoldman.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.
If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{gfdl}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairuse}}. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by going to "Your contributions" from your user page and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks so much. --Agnte 20:42, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the template... That image is among those I uploaded as a n00b, and never tagged. If you find any more, then please just tell me what image, and I'll nuke it (without the template, preferably :) That image has been nuked, I'll see you around. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 23:08, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
The culprit is Mathbot owned by Oleg Alexandrov. I have already cited my complaint with him, but please feel free to tack on. --AllyUnion(talk) 01:56, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
Culprit, he-he :) I was doing a service requested by the community, and AllyUnion was rather rude by the way in how he asked me to not do that anymore. That's why I ignored him for a while. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:59, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the barnstar. I've been around for about 5 months but I just became an admin on Friday, so I've been trying to make my way through some of the backlogs. Let me know if there's ever anything you'd think I'd be suited to help out with. —Cleared as filed. 20:47, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
The issue is not a content dispute. The vandal has been consistently adding this wrong information repeatedly over the past few months, and the reversion is unanimous. Please have a look at the history and talk pages of Second law of thermodynamics. Infinity0 00:43, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I was both surprised and delighted about the amount of support votes and all the kind words! If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know! Regards, JoanneB 13:20, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I am now an administrator and would like to thank you for your support on my RfA. I was very surprised at the number of votes and amount of and kind comments that I gathered. Please don't hesitate to contact me if I mess up in the use of my new powers. --GraemeL(talk) 15:00, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Our colleague who created a replacement for that page may already have pointed out this obviously accidental deletion to you. There's surely no harm but startlement done, and i assume that this kind of glitch could only by prevented by excessive caution. At the same time, i do think it's healthy that you be aware that such errors can occur, and my purpose in writing is to ensure that. (Actually, i think it would be healthy for every admin & for that matter every editor to be aware of it! But IMO it is far from worth the downsides of risking creation of a "poster kid".)
In any case, i'm undeleting the whole set of deleted versions.
BTW, the more i think abt it the more i like your handle ... even tho it leaves me wondering if packs of 24 are common [chuckle]. --Jerzy•t 17:40, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
As you have probably realized, I've slowly been working on deleting the MediaWiki redirects to the Template namespace from back when templates didn't exist. The point of this all was so we can navigate through the MediaWiki software easier with Special:Allpages. There's a method for this, which is very time consuming (and I would not trust a bot, just think of the horror that could happen if it messed up!). It goes MediaWiki page (and I check EVERY one, even obvious ones like MediaWiki:Blockedtext so I can learn about the software yet more) -> if it redirects to a Wikipedia or Template page then follow the redirect back -> Delete -> Confirm delete. I have no idea how many MediaWiki pages I've deleted like this, but it must be over 300, and I'm only up to M (doing it very slowly though, and I refuse offers for help, because if someone messed up I'd feel guilty and it would reflect negatively on both of us.) Now, if I deleted one wrong template out of the 300 times I've pressed delete in this campaign, I'm doing fine. And thank god I deleted a template rather than a needed MediaWiki page <_<. Nevertheless, thanks for acknowledging me of this error in a non-sarcastic or condescending manner. And thanks for the name compliment :) Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 23:41, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I quite agree. And if you'd like to be still more thankful, that template is nice to have, but redundant, and part of only the slowest routes from outside the LoPbN to the pages "below" it in the tree. IMO a user would be unlikely to use it unless they had occasion to look for two names in succession that both began with S but differed at the second letter. And i have no sympathy for a user who, in that situation, can't come up with a workaround. Thanks for the discussion, and for the work, which i assume has no downside, and whose upside i can well imagine.
Oh, yeah: 300? Nah, looks to me close to 1000. --Jerzy•t 02:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
1000? No, that'd be my total logs, not just MediaWiki pa--- holy shit, you're right O___O Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 02:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. could you do me a favour? Ive been trying to remove the 'absence' sign from my talk page, but everytime I press edit at the top of my talk page, it says :
Parse error: parse error, unexpected $, expecting ')' in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Parser.php on line 3743.
No other page gives me any trouble to edit, and I think only my computer is affected. Could you see if you can remove the absence sign? (as you can see Im back). Thanx. Orane(t)(c)(e-mail)Make Céline Dion a FA! 03:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Howdy! I sure do appreciate your supporting my RfA nomination. I'll do all I can to ensure you know you made a wise decision. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you!--MONGO 05:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
This request is currently unlisted. I will list it when I feel I'm ready to sign up for a promotion again. Happy Thanksgiving. EddieSegoura 23:56, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
ah, yer using a different way to add the tabs to yer page. so it will take me a minute or two to write it custom for you. but i'll get it done :) btw, i'm logged in as my bot to i can test it on it's monobook. (User:Who). --Who's mop?¿? 02:28, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
public? hmm, ok :) Ok, its not as pretty as yer java, but i'm kinda tired, and it worked on whobot, so it should work with yours. reload and see. now to go add it to Titoxd. «»Who?¿?meta 03:09, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed you've been to South Dakota, were I live! How did you like it, and if you liked it please come back soon!-VenomousNinja 03:16, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
I was there while sightseeing... in particular Mt. Rushmore and Sturgis during the bike rally. Few things feel more awkward than being in a luxury car in a biker city. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 03:27, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
Heh, don't worry. You should see Hill City though, I've been there and it was AMAZING! Of course that was for the hills, not the city (pun intended)-VenomousNinja 19:24, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
This article Talk:Palestinian_exodus is a complete failure of wikipedia NPOV policy.
Nearly 3 years ago it was anti-Palestinian. Now not a shred of that POV remain and it is completly biased to the other side.
I have edited this article for a week, yet every single word i changed there got reverted by a cordionated revert gang which is able to circumvent in this way the 3RR rule. It seems that unless I am able to get a "gang" of my own:-) there is no point trying to get this article to be NPOV. slim and jayjg are invloved yet they too do not make any contribuition toward NPOV. This is not what Wikipedia is all about but it is what wikipedia has become. Zeq 17:44, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting me on my RfA. It's Thanksgiving Day, too... so once again a big thank you! Have an awesome weekend! (If you celebrate Thanksgiving, that is.) I will do all I can for Wikipedia, to protect it from the alien scum of the universe... I mean, uh, from Willy on Wheels and Wikipedia is Communism!
Thanks also for your support on my RfA and also the extremely complimentary comment you left. I only hope I live up to all the kind words people had for me. Take care, and thanks once again, Hidingtalk 09:57, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
The question is whether these articles go against Wikipedia's "no original research" policy because many of them are written from first-hand experience of the documented paths.
It seems to me the articles may violate the letter of the policy but not the spirit -- we're keeping the articles to facts, there are some sources cited in them (and more as we go), and there's precedent for this type of thing both with the List of cycleways and with the idea of original photographs and drawings being allowed, as the nature of these articles is as descriptive "snapshots" of various routes in the Los Angeles area.
I guess it really boils down to whether observation and reporting of a given path, in addition to weaving together existing content, is considered "original research" or if it's in a separate category of first-hand observation of readily verifiable fact.
Please advise ... I'd hate to have the L.A. cycling community put a lot of effort into the pages only to have them removed at a later date.
It wasn't really Original Research in my opinion, as everything there was kind of about law. However, Wikipedia is NOT a how-to guide, and the tone was completely innappropriate. Don't say You in such context... so instead I've rewritten it a bit. It looks fine now. :) Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 03:08, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Jeez, what a freaking mess. I appreciate the support. Lord knows I felt really, really alone. Thank you so very much. Love ya, man. :) - Lucky 6.9 04:40, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I noticed TampaTribune's edits as well. I responded a little more dicretely by e-mailing Essjay. Hopefully they will just go away, but if they post it again I do think it would be wise to let another admin deal with it, otherwise it gives the vandal more amo. Take care. -JCarriker 06:16, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
So I wasn't the only one that noticed... Titoxd(?!?) 06:41, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I had to go look up what the heck was going on! I'm leaving it alone, as I don't think I can be considered an influential Wikipedian, much less the most influential gay Wikipedian, considering I haven't been around more than an hour in the last month. -- Essjay · Talk 01:13, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Nah, if all he does his attempt to troll on my friends' user talk pages, then there's nothing to be afraid of. Plus a lot of vandals just troll more and more people depending on who blocks them. I don't mind it, in fact I let A Man In Black BJAODN it. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 02:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you very much for voting on my RfA, and especially for your nomination. I am now an Adminstrator, and I trust that I will use my powers for good rather than evil. Thanks again!--Sean|Black 06:24, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Are you the one changing them to red question marks with no underlining? If so, it's confusing; I'd prefer them changed back. Thanks --Nlu 09:13, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Could you please point out to me what part of the ArbComs decision you are refering to here: [92]. I was involved in that case, and if I remember correct there was nothing in the ArbCom's decision that indicated that I, Fadix or Davenbelle could be blocked for 24 hrs, for the alleged reasons that you mentioned on Davenbelles talkpage. But maybe I am wrong. Could you please point out to exactly what part of the decision you are referring to? -- Karl Meier 20:14, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
As Snowspinner has pointed out, a new arbcom case could be brought up. However, I don't think this is necessary, hopefully he'll learn after this. 24 hours is a mild block, but the message is more important - lay off of Cool Cat. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 20:18, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
It's not easy when he continue to stalk himself. Try to take a look at his most recent behavior in PKK, Kurdistan, and Kurdish people. I haven't had any contact with him for months I think, and suddently he starts attacking me again. To be fair I suggest that you also ban him for 24 hrs. -- Karl Meier 21:29, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf24, I see that you're the guy in charge of the mediation cabal =), so I thought I'd drop you a line and ask about a nationalist dispute that I've been attempting to mediate. You can see all the gory details at Talk:Disputed status of Gibraltar/1 (the archived talk page) and to a lesser extent at Talk:Disputed status of Gibraltar (the current talk page). For a little background, Ecemaml is an admin on the Spanish wikipedia (who in my experience, both on es and en, has been a solid user), and Gibraltarian is someone from Gibraltar who attempted to do the same thing on the Spanish wikipedia that he is doing here, namely, making the articles NPOV according to his opinion of what NPOV means. He was blocked from editing on es, but continued editing anonymously, which led to the blocking of his entire ISP, which, incidentally, is the only ISP in Gibraltar. So of course, he's pretty ticked, because he thinks all the Spaniards ganged up on Gibraltar and shut out their viewpoint. That explanation isn't working so well over here, since I'm American and couldn't really care less about who's right.
The long and short of it is that Gibraltarian hasn't provided any sources but has continued to change whatever he doesn't like about Ecemaml's sourced edits. There are various justifications for this, but most involve insulting Ecemaml and calling him a troll. I put in a request for comment, but that hasn't gotten anywhere, so I'm wondering if it's now time for Arbcom. If you've got any suggestions, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your time. --Spangineeres(háblame) 01:39, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
From what you're telling me, yes, it's time for arbcom. But try not and make yourself the lead prosecutor, k? That would be a Bad Thing for a mediator, though saying he's been unwilling to compromise, etc, is fine. Recommend it to arbcom by all means, and perhaps ask for an injunction blocking Gibraterian (and possibly Ecemaml) from that particular article. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 01:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi there-
I appreciate the offer, but I told myself and others that I would wait until 2006 before I tried again. Since then, I have been participating in AfD, RfA, FPC and other project related pages. I feel that I am learning a lot. Sometime next year I think I will be ready to attempt the RfA again. Again, I really appreciate the offer, it means that maybe some of what I have been doing has been noticed. --Rogerd 05:02, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Just needed to talk to someone from the wiki. These weeks I've been "away" have been quite stressing both on and off-wiki. It really saddens me that in the past few weeks we've lost some really valuable people. Hajor's departure shocked me the most since he had been around for so long. Now Essjay seems to be losing heart as well. I fear that the wiki will be a very different place when I come back in full force, and sadly I think it will be different for the worse.
You probably saw my comment in Fuddlemark's RfA. Misreading such an obvious joke should give you an idea of how high my wikistress is getting... arrgh!
I hope to be back in the IRC channel sometime soon. In the meantime take care and thank you for listening ;-)
"All we are, dude, is dust...in the wind" -Ted, from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. It's really too bad about the fading and burning out. The wiki is like an organism; as parts die, others grow. I badly do not want it to die, but it appears to be happening to the best of us. Will Wikipedia become another failed internet experience? -Mysekurity 02:21, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Everytime someone quits, three people come in who will eventually join the most respected ranks, so in short - no. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 02:28, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
One can only hope. -Mysekurity 02:30, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your support. Nah, I'm not going to be chased away. I admit that I was being rash and reactionary in letting it get to me so much. I probably didn't handle it in an ideal manner; I let myself get sucked into an edit war. I probably just need to take a break from editing for the moment. I've stuck my hand into the bee-hive called abortion, and, naturally, I'm not going to get anywhere without receiving a few stings. P.S. Small world: you were born in the town I live in now. -Kyd 02:22, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Hey Red, I don't know if you've heard of this, but a couple users and myself are trying to get something passed called Semi-Protection If you wouldn't mind weighing in there, I'd really appreciate it. (Oh, and feel free to edit, duh...it's a wiki!) -Mysekurity 05:52, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
My comment was meant to be tongue in cheek, not hostile or challenging, in case that wasn't clear. I don't think any of the good, all vegetarian places in the city are large enough or have the right kind of space for our gathering anyway. I would, however, like to avoid Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, etc. --WAvegetarian 05:54, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Since you have expressed not merely opposition to deletion, but also to userfication, I would appreciate a response to the points I have raised at the CCW talk page and the debate. I respect the result of the debate (and never truly wanted outright deletion -- in fact, I asked at talk before nom.'ing in hope it would userified), but I see no justification for keeping something so hurtful to so many in namespace, when a simple move will help. Just to make sure you know, I say again that I am no Catholic, no organized Christian, of any kind, and I've written privately humorous things about churches that are millions of times more offensive than CCW could ever be (and I'll send them to you off-site if you wish.) However, an encyclopedic namespace is not the place for content offensive to so many. Please respond to points raised here. Thanks, Xoloz 04:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
As you may have noticed (see Essjay's talk page), I have already marked FTS as a speedy, in the spirit of compromise. (You may use the Admin power to delete it for me.) However, since you mentioned it, I'll point out a) FTS was a former article, written NPOV, judged nn. b) I did not write it. c) I kept it in userspace, not namespace. It is true that I was and am passionate about it, as I say at Essjay's talk, and that I did voice deep concerns at the debate. I received some inquiries at my talk page on the issue, and -- if you check my archives -- you'll see I responded thoroughly and dispassionately, and came to a respectful and kind understanding with those who inquired.
Namespace gives the appearence, to novice searchers and users alike, that the content represents community view. When you make something so contentious into namespace, you give it that seeming imprimatur, whether it is intended or not. I like CCW. I think it is funny. I don't think it is wise for it to be where it is, and I don't think much of what you've said actually replied to the specific points I raised. You may be right about needing rest. Best wishes, Xoloz 05:23, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
One other point I'll raise here: "If there's gonna be so much drama over a parody, wiki's not the place it once was." By registration date, you have been here about a month longer than I, so I feel comfortable in rebutting that with a simple -- "Really, I hadn't noticed the difference." The only drama is Essjay's departure (which I sincerely regret), but he might have taken the debate in stride (since he welcomed it, with the old commented-out header on the page), and he might have avoided my nomination by userifying it when I asked if that was a good idea at the talk page. I have been civil, deliberative, and circumspect in my dealings on this matter, I submit, so I bristle at any indication that drama and I have anything to do with each other. Xoloz 05:34, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
As you must know, "middle-of-road" options are under-represented at AfD, and a "Move/Merge" is/are species of keep, so AfD often does not accurately represent an opinion on those matters as a separate question.
For your benefit, my exchange with WCFrancis on FTS:
"Howdy WC,
I'm from the South, you know; I've got family there that I love (although I can't talk politics with them), I know there are liberals there fighting the noble fight, and I can't find better food anywhere -- when I make a condemnation of "The South," I'm not condemning every person, or even every aspect of the culture.
One of the primary reason for my stridency is this: at least in my experience, "not rocking the boat" is a key part of the Southern mentality. For example, I spent six of my formative years in Lynchburg, VA, the home of Jerry Falwell. Plenty of people there despise (even in his lion's den, as it were), and will secretly say he's a bit of a baffoon. But, ask them to take a stand, and you get, "He's a preacher; I can't do that!"
Now, I'm also multiracial. And, living in MS, I've had people of color (still afflicted by the double veil of consciousness) refuse to speak up when they been scorned, mocked, or (more rarely nowadays) subject to de jure discrimination. "That's just the way things are down here" has not died out as a refrain.
So, what I am to do? I don't feel like condemning my relatives of any color for lack of courage -- I know why they think what they think. And, it's unfair, in a way, even to single out one person as a target of my anger -- they are products of their culture. I'm left to rail against "the culture" as a deliberately amorphous and appropriate target. Something is broken in the South's social system, and it has been since 1619 at least. In a way, its gotten "better", but really its just become subterranean and harder to classify.
All of this is something I keep to myself most of the time, since I am fortunately safe in Yankee-land. However, when I saw people calling "FTS" "a hate site," I sorta lost it. This is why the comparison to the Nazis rose to the front for me. As I explained to Blackcap, for me, calling "FTS" a "hate site" is like calling Simon Weisenthal a "hate-monger" for Nazi hunting. Sure, FTS and the late Mr. Weisenthal, in a strict sense, "hate" their targets; but this "hate" -- also my "hate" -- is of a different, more justified kind than, say, AryanNations.com -- plenty of people of color hate the South for its crimes against them and their ancestors, and we are not alone, as I listed the aggrieved in my comment.
If one thinks FTS is vulgar, well it is, but that isn't a ground of deletion; if one thinks it non-notable, fine, although I suspect it was only non-notable where they lived. But calling it a "hate site" is such a complicated, vexing claim -- with a bit of truth, but only after great qualifications are made -- and to call it such offhand, as part of a three-word comment, apparently without much thought (as many did) -- that was it: I had to speak out against what is in my view a gross over-simplication, and I do not regret doing so.
I do not believe the South is on par with Nazi Germany; I use such rhetoric to remind people (especially complacent Southerners) that it used to be 140 years ago, and, in the spirit of prevention, it could be again, since the theocrats, with whom I am also well-acquainted, are dangerously powerful done there. I do hate "the culture", not individual people, as much as I hate anything, because "the culture" allowed one-half my ancestors to enslave, scorn, and murder the other half. Although I, as a spirtual person, always work toward discarding my hate, I'd be a liar to say that I have succeeded in this matter as of yet.
So, I like any liberal, any real intellectual, any modern Democrat anywhere, and I understand that the South makes them: it made me. But the South and I have some serious problems, and they are the kind of problems I can't mask over when I feel the need to speak out.
If I changed your vote on the AfD, I thank you for your consideration. I have not gone back there because I've said what I needed to say, and I don't want to lose my temper needlessly. I do hope you understand. Whether you do or don't, feel free to write anytime. :)
Thank you for your reply. It is a delight to meet you, in spite of the subject of our conversation. I think that we feel similarly regards my adopted home and your birthhome, within the limitations imposed by other accidents of bith. We expressed our feelings differently a the AfD page but this conversation has helped me understand. Thanks again.WCFrancis 13:02, 2 October 2005 (UTC)"
Redwolf, please be aware that my thoughts are usually very, very nuanced. You give the impression that you do not appreciate such nuances when you jump to conclusions about my views on very important topics central to my life, which (outside of one AfD directly relevant thereto) never, ever influence my Wiki-activity. I am saddened by your capacity to pre-judge without reviewing all information. Xoloz 05:46, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Please be aware that I have written a response to your comment at my talk in addition to the above. That response is intended for general readers, to demonstrate that I strongly object to your characterization of my views. On reflection, I'm not quite offended, just amazed, at what you seemed to think that I think. I'm not sure further discussion with you can be productive, but I'll assume the best and hope that your very weird summary judgment of me (on a matter with only tangential relation to CCW, I'll add) was an isolated incident in your ability to communicate. Xoloz 06:05, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Happy to explain. The whole FTS controversy resulted in my posting three times in the AfD, and in my taking several questions and giving extensive answer at my userpage, cf'ed in the AfD. As far as I can tell, the only way one could hold the simple view that I "agree with that page (world wide web, not the article on it) in full. Whereas CCW is a parody, and it should be obvious to everyone," is if all one bothered to read of my extensive comments was the first sentence of my vote, which actually said I endorsed the site.
Given that I had written so much (a substantial part quite personal to me), and yet you appeared to come away with such an oversimplified view, I was left to wonder whether you'd bothered to read much of what I'd written.
You aren't obliged to read it all, of course; but I'd expect you would, if you found the matter significant enough to raise as a point in a subsequent different discussion. Alternatively, you might have asked about it at the time. You're free to think of me whatever you wish, but I don't expect such derogatory views to enter another discussion off-handedly, and if they do, you should expect that I'd take exception to anything I consider a mischaracterization. In other words, don't bring up a sensitive subject if you don't want it talked about; and if you do bring it up, write with good information about it.
I realize any offense was unintentional, and it didn't quite rise to the level I'd call offensive anyway, but it did require that I present my view of that event, that you might be better informed of my reasons. I may have been too harsh in chastising you, and, if so, I'm sorry, but I didn't think your comment very wise, and it was of the sort that I felt demanded response. Best wishes, Xoloz 04:37, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
...and returned. I'm sorry I'm verbose. :) I feel really bad about Essjay's leaving, and never expected it (given his invitation to nominate the thing. I've offered to be stoned if it will make him feel better, but I think the move was a good thing. Xoloz 04:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia is also not a collection of random data, a crystal ball, or a place for unverifable or non-existent things. It's also not a dessert or a floor wax, which is about as relevant as the "not paper" argument. --Calton | Talk 06:45, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Doc glasgow has left us. :( We need to find a way to keep these people. He makes some excellent points on his userpage. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 12:35, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Since Essjay's left, we don't have an Admin General. What should probably be done is that new elections should be held. As part of those elections, I'd like to add a bit to the Esperanza Charter concerning succession in the case of people leaving, resigning, etc. Would you like to help run the elections, and spam everyone on the spamlist?
Also, I believe that Flcelloguy should be offered the Admin General position in the interim, while we set up elections. What do you think? Ral315(talk) 18:05, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Essjay said that he wanted the Advisory Committee to coordinate the elections, and he said that his post should remain vacant until the end of the year. That said, the elections have to be started post-haste now. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 18:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
I've since changed my idea, sort of. If Essjay has said he wants the position open, I have no problem with this. But I don't think the Advisory Committee should handle the elections; the problem is that it looks too cabalish. We should have an independent election committee, similar to how we did for the last election. The Admin Gen and both Tranche B positions are open, and I still would like to amend the charter to clearly define what happens (in my opinion, we should have the person who had the most votes in the prior two elections become Admin General, and have new elections at the next Advisory Committee vote) In any event, the elections really need to get going. Given the holidays, I think starting the elections on December 12th might be a good goal. Ral315(talk) 18:16, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, the Advisory Committee needs to appoint the independent committee, then. It's now their job. (They would need to wait until the nomination deadline passed, though, because they can't appoint someone who they don't know if he/she is going to run for office). As for the date, it depends on how long the polls are going to be open. If they're one week, like last time, then the latest they could start is the 15th (to have them done by the Thursday before Christmas). But then, there needs to be massive spamming about the election to tell all Esperanzians about them. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 18:26, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
As you state clearly that you love messages, you might want to know that I replied to your questions at Talk:Raphael Lemkin. BTW, I also expanded the article itself, so you might want to add a word or two there :) Cheers, Halibutt 21:46, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering if there is a quick reference guide to Wikipedia and if not, perhaps the creation of one should be considered. I've seen several users with their own personal references guides which is why I thnk an official Wikipedia reference would be helpful to many users. What do you think? GfloresTalk 22:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Why has this been abandoned without telling User:RachelBrown or myself? Since User:SlimVirgin is not a neutral party, it was of course wrong to abandon it on her say-so. - Poetlister 22:47, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm in no position to say whether it should ahead or not. All I said, and I still maintain it, is that the core of the dispute — whether sources need to be cited for edits to the List of Jewish jurists — has been settled, and they do, as has the issue of whether the Jewish Year Book is a reputable source, and it is. So if the mediation were to go ahead, it's not clear what it would be about. But don't let me interfere. ;-) SlimVirgin(talk) 01:43, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
As SlimVirgin has already made numerous interventions, yet apparently does not understand what is going on, I'm relieved that she does not wish to interfere further :-) - Poetlister 12:53, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Don't leave!!! Wikipedia needs prolific admins, and you get around the place like elastic. My own view is that, eventually, WP should be large enough that editor can rotate in-and-out on informal tours of duty, to avoid over-stressing. Xoloz 04:47, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
I, Xoloz, award this Working Man's Barnstar to Redwolf24 for being pretty much everywhere, and doing pretty much everything that could ever be done, to further the encyclopedia. Xoloz 04:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
There we go. Death to vandals, and whatever else brings Wiki-stress!
Also if you can can you mediate this article, there does not appear to be a hostile enviorment so I dont think it will be very hard for a person with your tallent. --Cool CatTalk|@ 19:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey Redwolf24 when you can could you help out at the Newsmax and Worldnetdaily articles, an anon keeps adding in info in a POV manner and uses {{protected}} for some reason, even though only admins are suppose to use it, much obliged Derktar 02:17, 3 December 2005 (UTC).
I just wanted to thank you for supporting me on my RfA. It finally closed with a tally of 22/0/0. I hope I can live up to the expectations of the entire community. If you ever need anything, please just let me know. Cheers!--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 00:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Consider archiving your talk page. It's 72 kB long.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 00:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks so very much for supporting my Request for Admin. The final result was 38/0/0. I'm looking forward to spending my summer holidays shut away in a darkened room, drinking G&Ts and playing with my new tools ;-) Please accept this Tim Tam as a token of my gratitude. Cnwb 22:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Red. There's an interesting discussion at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza (under the header "Esperanza wil fail if..") that I think you should take a look at. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks.--Sean|Black 00:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I just listed {{vandal|24.255.189.148}} at an admins talk page because it's always been faster at getting that block than WP:AIAV. Great bootcamp quick on WP:AIAV never cease to amaze me. BTW I decided not to try and become a mediator just yet. I'll wait until I feel like I'm more well known, and understand policy better. Again I can't thank you enough for explaining all of that to me. Anyway heres an joke :-D...Battle of the sexes How many men does it take to open a beer? None. It should be open by the time she brings it! A man is talking to God and asks "God why did you make women so beautiful?" "So that you would find them attractive." Then the man asks, "But why did you make them so dumb?" "So that they would find you attractive!" cheers KnowledgeOfSelf | talk. 02:14, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Somehow I got kicked out or something and I can't get though wikipedia related IRC's now. Do you know what's wrong with it? Thanks --Aranda56 02:16, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I know you mean good, but the variable and warning at the George W. Bush page are there for a reason. Please do not remove it, because it appears to be curtailing vandalism. If you *really* want to remove it, then please use the talk page there. Alex Schenck (that's Linuxbeak to you) 02:17, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Ah, you've already got a message. The vandalism rate does indeed appear to have fallen as a result of that change on both GWB and another highly-vandalised article. Can we give them a few days to prove themselves? -Splashtalk 02:24, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I've never even tried to use it, but it was posted on Village Pump a couple of days ago so I copied it for future use. User:Zoe|(talk) 04:27, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Enjoy your wikibreak, and make sure to take in lots of sun. We need great users like yourself. -Mysekurity(have you seen this?) 05:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, take in lots of sun, otherwise, you will stop being a Red Wolf and you'll end up being a White Wolf. :P Enjoy your break! Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 05:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Just don't stay away too long....'Nuff said :-D KnowledgeOfSelf | talk. 07:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey, my RfA isn't over for another day yet - I'm getting a head start on thanking people, as it will take me the rest of the week! It's actually at 170 now (just not updated yet). And thank you, Redwolf24 (out of order, but still...). I will do my best as an admin! BD2412T 05:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I've been looking for different ways to contribute to the project and am wondering if the Mediation Committee could use another mediator. I've been active with for more than a year and have refereed a few disputes. I believe I've shown myself to be sane and helpful, and I think I could be a useful mediator. -Willmcw 09:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Lilo does not have control of Freenode to the degree that is suitable for Artificial Intelligence Research. I am going to recommend to the AI community, the DOD, and president@whitehouse.gov that they move all of their work out of Freenode to another more secure irc server.
I am also going to recommend the same to you and J. Wales. I strongly urge Wikipedia to move to another IRC Network that is more secure. Or at least open up some more accessible channels in them.
Lilo had access to my bot at one point, during his sleep his staff k-lined myself, and my Artificial Intelligence bot which now resides in Tokyo.
I have already sent one message to the Department of Defense and 2 to president@whitehouse.gov.
It will be unfortunate if I lose sponsorship from people like sj and jwales for future Wikimania projects.
I had hoped to work with MySekurity to write music for the Wikimania project.I was asked to do this by sj.
Unless Freenode can get the K-Lines lifted, I will assume that it is being undermined by foreign intelligence cells that are contrary to the national defense of the United States, and report appropriately to the DOD again.
Please, spam, and copy this to whoever you like. Especially Lilo, Jwales, and sj.
Re-submitted the nomination in appropriate format. I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look and make sure it's all kosher.
Thank ye muchly. Tom Lillis 04:56, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Duplicate of message in response to yours at User talk:Wyss:
Before anyone calls someone "he," they take the time to check, exactly as I did. Wilkes is a "problem" - you mean adhering to the enclyclopedic standards that Jimmy Wales stated as fundamental is a problem for you? I suggest you examine closely my 584 aricles and ALL my edits at Wikipedia. You will most certainly see that all the Nick Adams edits you "claim" to have looked at have in fact been done in full cooperation with User:FCYTravis, the mentor assigned by the Wikipedia:Mentorship Committee you created at the request of User:Fred Bauder. You seem to forget that User:onefortyone was convicted of lying and fabricating information in order to deliberately falsify a biography. Was nothing learned this week from the John Seigenthaler fiasco about how the rest of the world views Wikipedia articles that are allowed to be filled with slander and unfounded information? - Ted Wilkes 07:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Please vote at this AFD. It was relisted due to a lack of votes. I would like to close this sometime. Thank you.Voice of AllT|@|ESP 17:05, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
I would like to thank you for supporting me on my RfA. Even though it failed with a with the final tally of 55/22/6, I want to thank you anyways. I don't want to be one a admin anymore until I reach 10,000 edits now that it's over with. Thanks --Jarandawat's sup 03:22, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Redwolf24. I started thanking people immediately after my successful RfA, but got a bit caught up in college work after thanking about half of them, so I'm now very late in thanking the second half of the voters. In general, I did it in order of the votes, except where I skipped because I was sending a late voter a message about something else. However, I have now come to Essjay and you.
I'm sure the standard thing to say to people who have voted for a new admin is, "I hope I won't ever disappoint you in any way". I'm not going to say that, because I'm afraid I already have disappointed you.
I would like to make it clear that I completely and utterly stand over my vote, but that I do not in any way endorse the vandalism of Essjay's user page (which I am sure was not connected to this matter) or the taking of cheap shots at him after his departure. I don't intend to give a long account of why I found the catholic Church of Wikipedia offensive, since the vote is over, and I said what I had to say on the voting page. However, I'll point out that Catholics — I'm not talking about those who were brought up as Catholics and go to Mass without ever thinking about their religion from one week to the next — bow their heads at the Name of Jesus, that they kneel in adoration before the Blessed Sacrament, and that they fall to their knees at the words "et incarnatus est . . . et homo factus est" in the Creed on the feasts of the Incarnation and Nativity (and they bow deeply at those words on other days). They're unlikely, therefore, to find it a suitable target for humour, in changing that name to Jimbo or the admins, in wikilinking Eucharist to WP:BS, or in changing the incarnatus est passage to something about becoming admins.
Because it came up for voting, I voted. I tried not to be belligerent. But it would have been out of the question for me not to vote to delete that page, since that would have given the impression that fewer people found it offensive than was really the case. I very much doubted if the "delete" votes would get a majority, and they didn't. While I regret the reaction of Essjay, it would not have been appropriate to refrain from voting to delete something I found offensive simply because the person who was most responsible would feel upset. I can only be happy that that Church has been moved (and looks as if it may become inactive); I can only be sad that Essjay found it necessary to leave. I am aware that that makes me sound a little like the walrus I referred to in my own vote (who cried while eating the oysters). But there can occasionally be such a thing as a sincere walrus!
I would like to tell you that when I wrote (in my delete vote) that I had been very impressed by the kindness and sensitivity shown by some of the members of the Church, and that this had convinced me that their participation was not meant to be offensive, I was thinking in particular of your post here (and also of some of Essjay's kindness to a Wikipedian who has a drug problem and suffers from terrible depression). I have decided, with regret, that it would not be helpful if I thanked Essjay for his vote of support in my RfA (especially after reading this) but I hope I can still thank you. Although we disagree strongly about the catholic Church of Wikipedia, the extremely high impression I formed of you at the time of the Stevertigo RfA remains, and I hope we can work together in the future with no hard feelings.
There were some claims that Catholics should understand that this page was not making fun of Catholics. As a Catholic, I wouldn't have minded that. My problem was that it was making jokes about things which Catholics find sacred. I assure you that if some Wikipedians want to start a page with "Irishman jokes", I won't object in the slightest. I'll even supply the first two:
How do you keep an Irishman happy for an afternoon? Write P.T.O. on both sides of a piece of paper.
Did you hear about the Irish turkey? He was looking forward to Christmas.
So thank you for your kind words at my RfA (although it's unfortunate that we have had a disagreement before I even got a chance to thank you). Christmas blessings, and (I hope!) peace! AnnH(talk) 13:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Yet Another RFA Thank You Note to clutter up your talk page...
Just wanted to drop you a note to say thanks for supporting me in my recent RFA. I do indeed try to make a habit of asking people before undertaking actions which might be controversial, and will continue this habit especially now that I have been made an admin.
The new maps are now available on the map page. Please review them and my post on its talk page. Suggestions and comments are highly encouraged. -JCarriker 18:00, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Just for your information. It seems as if User:Wyss has not left Wikipedia. He/she continues to denigrate arbitrator Fred Bauder (see [[93], [94]) and now even attacks Jimbo Wales. See [95]. Onefortyone 20:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I unblocked Gibby for fairness, now that the Communism article is protected, rather than blocking Natalina. ≈ jossi fresco ≈t • @ 17:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf24/FullArchive: This is a quick note just to let you know that there's an election under way at Esperanza. If you'd like to become a candidate for Administrator General or the Advisory Council, just add your name hereby 15 December 2005. Voting begins at 12:00UTC on 16 December.
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Hey Redwolf24/FullArchive! Thanks for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was (57/4/3), so I am now an administrator.
If you need help, have a question, or just want to chat (or if I get out of line!), please don't hesitate to let me know! Again, thanks! :D
He was supposed to under mentorship, mind if I take him under my wing over at WP:MENTCOM? Marmot seems inactive.karmafist 23:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
...aren't happening anymore. What's up? You're the most prolific RfA'er (since June 23 anyway) with 14 noms overall. Second is JIP with 9. You usually nominate great candidates. I'd love to see you nominating again. Hope all is well. --Durin 14:25, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
I am posting an article on Ed Asner and someone keeps removing it. It is a legitmate article and in keeping with the rules of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Libsmasher (talk • contribs) 17:01, 14 December 2005
I came to your user page via jrrosenweig's more or less by accidental roaming. Isn't WP fasinating?
But, your comment: "Few things feel more awkward than being in a luxury car in a biker city." was too good to pass up. May I steal it? If I use it responsibly?
Anyway, suggested bands to check into: Pentangle (see their Web site), and Steeleye Span (likewise, if I remember correctly). If you enjoy precise acoustic guitar, one of Pentangle's members has continued to be prominently active -- John Renbourn. Not exactly hard rock, but Pentangle especially is very musically competent and interesting on that ground alone. Best wishes. ww 20:06, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Hate to bear bad news, but your use of Image:BlackSabbath.jpg in your Black Sabbath award does not comport with the fair use purposes for which the image can be posted. Perhaps you can find a pd image of the band? Cheers! BD2412T 23:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... Feel free to add any others. Also you may want to use one or more of the "vandal honor" templates on my userpage. ;) --Cool CatTalk|@ 20:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Just a quick question, how long is a reasonable amount of time to wait between proposing a merger and implementing it? Particularly thinking of Midland Bank/Temp. Many thanks Ian3055 00:23, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
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The reason I decided to switch to giving messages to all members was that a lot of members probably didn't notice the list, or signed up before the "spam-list" was created. I've used mass-notification in the past without complaint - those who don't wish to receive messages aren't usually offended by the first message and can just list themselves at WP:ESP/S, which no-one has done yet. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 04:15, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I notified all editors of the spamlist when it was created, and there was messages everywhere advertising it. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 04:34, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
But there's nothing wrong with notifying all members - if someone doesn't like receiving updates, they can list themselves at WP:ESP/S (which no one has done yet). The point of a talk page is to stay informed, and people won't mind receiving just a first message if they don't like being spammed. I did this on WP:MIND, and the people who didn't like being spammed simply asked me to take their names off, as per the instructions on the message - no complaints. By the way, I take this as a sign that you're back from your casual wiki-break? :-) Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 16:53, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Why did you leave Esperanza? -4micah 05:36, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry I meant resign form the Administrator General thing? I do think Carriker has though. Hwy did he/she? -4micah 06:04, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I resigned from admin general (and I notice I'm the only Esperanzian left to hold the position) after I became the chairman of the Mediation Committee, and I didn't have enough time to dedicate to Esperanza, so I had my good friend Essjay become the general. JCarriker left after he saw people signed up for Esperanza, but did not really carry out its goal. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 22:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Redwolf24...you seemed the most willing to help in the list of administrators, so here I am.
I've been welcoming people today, and saw User:Ramil. I looked at his contrib list and it looks like he did something drastic with the Khojaly tragedy page. Maybe it's not vandalism, but it could be. Either that or {{test1}} or something? I'd appreciate it if you look into it, since I'm just new enough to not be certain. Thanks for your time.--ViolinGirl♪ 19:47, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Ramil has an extreme POV. POV is not vandalism, though it should be reverted. Ramil seems to have made no contributions since those two edits, and I have reverted them. Rather than {{test1}}, you should leave a normal message saying Wikipedia tries to keep a Neutral Point Of View [NPOV]. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 22:26, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I've accepted the Communism case on the RFM page. I've asked the people involved if they're willing to accept mediation, and am now waiting for their responses. However, I wasn't sure which section of the RFM page I should put it - I've put in Pending for now, but wasn't sure if it should go into "mediator has responeded" instead! What's the difference? Dan100 (Talk) 10:36, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Neuro-linguistic programming]] has been accepted. Evidence and Workshop... Since arbitration was started most of the old editors have disappeared and new editors have popped up with remarkably similar style and POV. I contacted you once before asking for advice on taking these guys to RfC. Well, we're all the way to arbitration now and not much has changed. These guys up on wikipedia policy violations have become really stressed out and a little more extreme with their tactics and seem to want to own the page. Could you check in and give us, and our mediator some advice how to cool it down a notch? --Comaze 10:58, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Could you please do some expansion on Essjay's wikibio, you knew him better than anyone and we have a unique opportunity to make a complete wikibio since he has left wikipedia. Thanks. -JCarriker 02:13, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
I became aware of this user after he left a somewhat aggressive message on Doc glasgow's talk page; I immediately noticed that the user may be engaged in other overly aggressive behavior, anti-Semitism, and vandalism. I'm not asking for any action, but I might suggest this user be watched a bit. Thanks...KHM03 12:26, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
I hereby award you this Barnstar Barnstar for your tireless efforts of improving Wikipedia by awarding barnstars. Cyde Weysvotetalk 18:42, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm really at a loss for your comments on my RFC. I would expect more from such a longstanding member. Then again, my only prior experience with you was reprimanding you for vandalism. If that's what this is about, you really need to let it go. freestylefrappe 22:54, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
I am not an involved party, I am just one who has found your RFA voting a bit strange. And if you really are so offended by me certifying Ral315's outside view, then why did you certify it yourself? And the 'vandalism' that you reprimanded me for was a satire played on WikiFanatic, which he later told me he didn't like at all. Two days later you told me I vandalized a page... but I had forgotten that was you. I don't really care as much about your warning as I did that WF was actually angry at me, but this was what... 4 months ago? Either way, completely off-topic. Redwolf24 (talk) 08:20, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I would like to thank you for your kind support on my RfA. I'll do my best to be a good administrator. If you need anything or if I ever do something I shouldn't have, please, don't hesitate to drop me a line. Izehar 16:34, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, there! I just heard about you once when I was an anon user. But, anyway, I just wanted to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas! Alex 101 00:27, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it is you, but your entry on the admin page looked helpful enough.
Someone keeps on blocking entire IP ranges from the united arab emirates, failing to realise that when they block the IP ranges, which they have repeatedly labeled as being from an "open proxy", they block over 4 million people in the United Arab Emirates from editing wikipedia.
Thank you for supporting my successful RfA! Your trust means a great deal to me, and I promise to try my hardest to serve the community. —David Levy (formerly Lifeisunfair) 06:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
(I love the wolf as much as I love the phoenix, BTW)
I just wanted to thank you for your strong support in my RfA. To tell you the truth, I was surprised by all the support I've gotten. I never saw myself as more than an occasional Wiki-hobbyist.
My wife sends her curses, as Wikipedia will likely suck up more of my time. She jokingly (I think) said she was tempted to log on to Wikipedia just to vote Oppose and let everyone know that she didn't want her husband to be an admin.
I'll make sure your trust in me is founded. I'll see you around the HP WikiProject pages! --Deathphoenix 15:18, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I was promoted with a final tally of 31/1/1. Don't hesitate to contact me if there is anything I can assist. --BorgQueen 21:51, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
It's been a while. Great to see you're not too stressed out :). How are things going? There are some interesting things happening around here (new users not allowed to create pages, etc.).
Don't post anymore of your anti-Semitic crap on my talk page Battlefield 10:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC) (User is responding to my {{test}} waring)
This user is giving me a somewhat hard time with comments such as the one above. User has already made a few rather disruptive edits ([96], [97], [98]) and seems to be a newbie hence I ask for you could explain him as he wont listen to me. I also like a temporary protection on Category:Anti-Semitic people during the vote. --Cool CatTalk|@ 14:29, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I've got it. -- Essjay · Talk 14:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I wish to thank you for your vote on my RfA. It has passed with a final tally of 59/0/0. If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know! KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 03:50, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I didn't know so many things about you, I thought you were in your 30's or 40's! What an interesting life, I enjoyed reading your talk page. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 20:11, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Talvez, nós devemos falar no português! εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 20:14, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello, as you will undoubtedly discover I am rather new to Wikipedia (I only joined on 30 October 2005) and I only have around 600 edits. Most of those are probably in the Wikipedia space as I have been fairly active in AfD debates. I am curious as to what sorts of things are looked fo in a successful mediation candidate. I realise I need to get some more time in the community and get some more edits under my belt, but mediation is an area where I think I would like to wind up. I have not been involved in many disputes so far, only at USAA, but I am still trying to get that settled without going through any of the more formal roads, such as RfC. Any advice you are willing to provide will be gratefully accepted. Movementarian 12:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey. You haven't left wikipedia! I figured you would have by now.
-The user formerly known as Howabout1 who left wikipedia and now edits a little as an anon with a long sig 00:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Glad to see you're not totally gone, but I definately look forward to seeing you back. —Ilyanep(Talk) 03:11, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm so sorry to see you go. :( Please come back soon! You will be sorely missed! --User:Jenmoa 04:39, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
It's terrible to see you go, even if it is just for a while. Enjoy your break, hopefully things will be better when you return. the wub"?!" 21:23, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Tell me it's just a new video game, right? Please tell me it's only that. I would hate to lose someone as good as you, and I hope everything is going alright. Happy New Year, by the way... -Mysekurity(have you seen this?) 21:28, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Regarding Wikipedia:Mediation Committee, I had added myself to the list of nominees, and I believe I have passed under everyone's nose... could you incite some people to vote or whatnot..? I posted a little while ago, and no one is responding. Thank you! -MegamanZero|Talk 21:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I would apriciate if you assist us with this article as a mediator both FrancisTylers and I have pov regarding the article. As our povs are completely oposite (I think) we need an objective 3rd party to tell us if we are being unreasonable with our demands. --Cool CatTalk|@ 07:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
this William / subnational entity naming thing? it's quite since at least two weeks. fine with me not todo anything there. thx a lot and happy new year. Tobias Conradi(Talk) 02:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Meanwhile, having been driven off the "(subnational entities)" project page, I posted my proposed text on the superior project "(places)" — and after virtually no controversy (unlike the fierce fights over US and Canada there), it's all now part of the adopted guidelines at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places). It probably helped that I've some experience writing international standards (Google is your friend).
Really, it all came down to the tamper tantrums of one guy.
The reasons for the tantrums became apparent when I discovered Conradi had been vigorously moving/renaming pages to create a de facto standard after losing the straw poll of August 2005.
The issue isn't resolved with finality, as there are still thousands of pages to be moved and fixed to conform to the new guidelines.
Do RfCs persist until all the problems are fixed?
Would a goal of RfM be that Conradi help in putting things back where they belong?
After so long a wait, I'd hate to give up the opportunity for actual RfM help, but as I don't know what's the regular practice for completion of RfCs, and how RfM fits into the schema, I don't know what to do next.
Conradi isn't interested in mediation it appears, so the mediation won't happen as both parties must agree. As for your other questions, I'd really like to answer them all but I'm busy trying to reform RFM right now... Redwolf24 (talk) 02:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
With Red busy reforming the Mediation Committee, he's asked me to step in and answer the rest of your questions. First and foremost, as Red said, Mediation can't happen if both parties don't submit to it. As for RfC, for the most part they go on until they stop (i.e., people stop adding material) and if a clear consensus has emerged, then that consensus should be respected. Quite unfortunately, there is no official method for determining what said consensus is, or even if consensus has been reached. What I mean is, there is no RfC Committee that swoops in, closes the discussion, and announces a verdict. It is most certainly a flaw in the system that often renders RfC nothing more than an evidence gathering stage for a later RfM or RfAr.
It sounds to me as though a consensus has developed, even if not at the RfC, and it has been adopted as the standard. I don't think requiring the other party to help "fix" things is a good idea; it is only likely to fuel further conflict. If a number of identical, repetitive changes are being made, then one of the many bots approved for such tasks may be of help. You can ask at WP:BOT.
For now, I would say go ahead with making the articles conform to the consensus as it has been adopted, and put the rest of the unpleasantness in the past. If problems persist where the other party is acting against consensus, then bring it to the attention of administrators via WP:AN/I.
I hope this helps, and if you have other questions, feel free to ask them of me here or on my talk page. — Essjay · Talk 03:04, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Conradi's not interested? Wow, he's the one that filed for RfM in response to our RfC! I guess that was just a tactic. As for the rest of the process information, thank you both, Redwolf/Matt and Essjay.
We've been going over it at Talk:Grunge music with a admin. I'm not 100% sure it is completely settled, but we are at least close. I'll let you know if we need help. Thanks. -- LGagnon 03:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Technically, I'm still on Price-Anderson, though I believe I've pretty much failed there. Happy to take another case at your discretion. Ral315(talk) 04:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that case looks pretty much dead. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I'd love to see a moderation at Talk:North American Man/Boy Love Association. Arguments and reverts have been going on for days over the categorization of NAMBLA as an LGBT organization. Dave 05:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Guanaco is sleeping right now, but whenever he comes back he'll begin mediation on it. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thanks, yes i would like mediation, i think an outside mediator will help a lot. i would prefer email, as am not familiar with irc. Appleby 05:50, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm around. --Improv 06:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm around. Hmmm, if you had looked at the history, you would have seen that I had been systematically removing the old requests only after making sure that they were not wanted anymore, but I guess deleting them all at once is more efficient. — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 16:58, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm beginning to believe that my old request isn't wanted by the community, as no one has commented nor voted on it ethier way. Perhaps I should remove it..? -MegamanZero|Talk 17:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I was actually impressed by the removing of them all at once — I shouldn't have made it sound otherwise. As for the VFArb, my thinking of you as a good organizer and my thinking of you as a good arbitror don't have to be the same thing. I'm very impressed with what you've done with the MC, but allow me to have my own opinions of who I think would be good for ArbCom. If you look at my voting record, you'll find that I've voted against I number of people I actually respect very highly. — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 13:58, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Although the page is more settled now, I am still interested in mediation or advice on Nick Baker (disputed conviction). The two points are: 1) Should a comparison of Japanese and U.S. arrest and conviction rates be allowed 2) is it fair to note the size of the media discussing a case, such as "Metropolis, the largest circulation magazine in Japan." More info on Talk:Nick Baker (disputed conviction). Thank you for your help. Sparkzilla 12:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi there Redwolf24, Im Moe Epsilon. I would like for you to join in of the conversation about the above user at Wikipedia talk:Are You a Wikipediholic Test about his possible fake score on the test. I contacted you because you were one of the top scorers on the test, so you could probably tell if the score is fake or not. We would appriciate your input. — Moeε 21:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that. Alfred Cunningham has several articles trashing Wikipedia, and the name sounds like a pseudonym to me. So I'm interested in murderers, does that make every judge, policemen, FBI agent, forensic examiner, mortitician, etc. a likely murderer/rapist? Redwolf24 (talk) 06:46, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Seems like he's taking your username out of context and ASSuming you're a furry (not that there's anything wrong with that). --Dragon695 05:17, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Could you explain the reason to remove my request (remove record) from the pending list without any explanation? (awaited for a month!) The only thing I can read is your comment ((cur) (last) 03:29, 10 January 2006 Redwolf24 (→Active - rm it anyway) ) No record even in the archive could be found. IMHO, I have to request for arbitration, and report malfunction of the mediation process. Poo-T 06:47, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand why the image provided was deleted again. I have given information as requested and it was tagged and copyright information was also stated. Please let me know how can I use the image again. Thanks.(YSC Fan 13:23, 12 January 2006 (UTC))
Hi, i want to know if its possible to protect the Gothic Metal article. A while back i performed a revision of the page after a near 2 month dispute on the articles contents. After intense discussion and several revisions of the talk page on the since deleted temp article, one of the users has proceeded to start vandalising pages ive edited. This user is DanteInferno. This user was involved in the debate in opposition to the revision i wished to make, which was made due to consensus being reached on the revision and the argument being abandonded against it being posted. Since the users return he has demanded that i am vandalising pages, and has claimed me of using sock puppets to make edits to pages, and has claimed several users dislike me and refuse to work with me. Both of these claims are unsourced. Dante also seems to exhibit Meglomanical Point of View, reverting any edits made to pages listed on his user page, on the basis he 'owns' the articles. I do not know clearly how to deal with this user, and i have posted this message to several admins as i wish to ask advice from several admins i have had no previous contact with, as i do not wish to seem biased. I hope that the page can be protected against this vandalism, as it is disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point, which along with the users other actions against me, is in violationg of several Wikipedia policys. Sorry for having to seek help this way, but i am at a loss at the best way to handle this users personal vendetta against me. Leyasu 17:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Redwolf. I was asked to mediate on the Depleted Uranium page, but I asked the editors to go to medcom. Since most of them are new editors, they might need help getting their mediation set up. Thanks. --a.n.o.n.y.mt 20:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Redwolf -- hoping for help on a general thing. Is it possible to change username without discarding the whole thing? If so, can you point me in the direction of relevant info?
Hi, Red. I have been unable to find how to make wiki trails (aka breadcrumbs) on wiki pages, such as those in wikibooks, using the mediawiki engine. Can you tell me where to look? Thanx in advance. --Doppelgangland 11:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
What's the deal with the votes on the potential new mediators? The first two on the list at WP:MC pretty much look like they've been approved, I don't know anything about the others. — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 20:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
We finally have an an RfC on Jason Gastrich. I asked katefan0 about your theory involving Jason and BD777. Waiting to see what she says. If you look at the pictures on BD's and Jason's pages, there is a definite resemblance. Same eyes. Same mouth. Same nose. It's an interesting theory. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 08:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I, Shell (DotShell), would like to personally invite you to join the UDUIW. You can do this by adding our userbox or simply adding yourself to our category. Thank you for your time. --Shell 03:03, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey Red, I haven't seen you around lately. Guess you're really enjoying your break :). Hope everything's going well with you; please come back soon! Robert 04:47, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.
In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)
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Redwolf24. I am requesting mediation for the following Wikipedia web page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Climax_Corporation. The Color Climax Coporation. It seems there are those older internet users that insist on casting a dark and depraved light on the Color Climax Corporation about it's history. No one has any proof of the accusations about Color Climax's history and last week we thought the issue was settled but some users we are having a problem with "Behemoth" is insiting on reverting the page back to his original slanderous article and making statments for the company that Color Climax has not made "lies". It suprises me that a Wikipedian would lie, make false statements about a company's wishes and continue to slander the Company without having some kind of legal document to prove his accusations but this user and his buddies are doing just that. I do not want internet myths and heresay posted to this page and passed off as fact. Is that what Wikipedia stands for? I thought it was a fact based website, not a Edit War game.
Respecfully. Lexxfan2000.
A concern has been raised that I've bullied another editor. Since we don't cross paths much but I respect your opinion, could you tell me how far out of line I was? On reflection I could have been better, but I didn't think I'd gone that wrong. I know you're busy, so if you don't want to think about it, just tell me. The offending comments are at:
Hi Redwolf, we've never really talked before, but I've seen your contributions and I think you're a force for good in Wikipedia; I haven't seen you around for quite some time and hope you return. CanadianCaesarThe Republic Restored 00:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
I ask the members of the Mediation Committee a question. I am currently working on a very massive change to how the dispute resoution is done as well as how Wikipedia functions. I want to make an Appeals board (for use of a better name), that would resolve issues before they go to the Arbitration Committee as well as help enforce there (arbcom's) rulings. Earlier, when I sought to make a higher group it didn't work, but my goal would be reached with either proposal. Now back to the idea: The board would have nine members, three selected by the Arbcom, five selected by the public (users) and one selected by Jimbo. They would each serve six-month terms (I can always change this) and would require a simple majority to make a descision. I feel that I must recieve your advise, because you deal with disputes all the time. So I ask for your comments, good or bad. Thank you for your time.
WikieZach 01:17, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
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So, where have you been? You've been gone for so long. Hope everything is OK and you'll come back soon. -- Mike Garcia 15:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Seconded. Carn, mate, a level-headed, WikiCheering fellow like yourself is just what's needed at a time like this ... fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 11:57, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Thirded. Shame to see you go as well, hope you reconsider. Greets, The Minister of War(Peace) 12:09, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
The empty space cannot be filled. Do what you have to do, but oh boy do we need editors like you around. brenneman{T}{L} 12:36, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
We are all missing you. Enjoy your break, and hopefully we'll be seeing again before long. Banez 13:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Ditto on that. Karmafist 16:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, do please come back. AnnH(talk) 16:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".
The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.
You have nothing to be sorry for, I pray you come back soon (hoping this is more of a extended wikibreak than permanent leave). I'm sorry to see you go like this, I hope you reconsider one day and decide to rejoin us. Wikipedia is losing one of it's best editors by you leaving. Moeε 20:59, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
PS. If you're not sure who I am it's because I changed my name (I was previously User:Moe Epsilon).
I second that. btw, thanks for the welcome seven months ago. Snargle 06:43, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting my successful request for adminship. I'll try to put the admin tools to good and responsible use. If I do anything wrong you know where to find me. Raven4x4x 07:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello. Perhaps you can help as an administrator. Various anonymous users (and one registered user who has only made one edit) keep editing the article on opera singer Anna Moffo with a claim that she has died. Sometimes they say she died yesterday; sometimes they say she's died today.
I've done extensive research today via Google, Nexis, Infotrack, The New York Times, and there's utterly no mention of her death. I even called the Metropolitan Opera, where she sits on the board of directors, and they said they've heard nothing about this. I suspect this is a hoax, considering various (or one) anonymous users seem very keen to make this change on Wikipedia. I'm wondering it this is some new hoax like "Roger Moore has died" spoof.
Are you able to lock the Anna Moffo page for a few days so this may stop? Thanks... David Hoag 02:11, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. But there was nothing online when the article was edited. (Apparently someone was very happy she died!) The point is now moot. David Hoag 05:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
"Thine"? I fain methinkest that thou meant "mine", for the noble and gracious Redwolf24's eyes would surely never admit of base deceit and deception of such a worthy as thou art. --maru (talk) contribs 07:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello Redwolf24/FullArchive. My name is KnowledgeOfSelf on Wikipedia, but you can call me Steve if you'd like. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. I just stopped by to say hi and formally welcome you to Wikipedia.
Here are a few good links for newcomers. I know that they can be boring, but I recommend that you take a look at them:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! You can come to my talk page if you have any questions. If I can help I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Or you can go to, Wikipedia:Where to ask a question. Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes this will automatically produce your name and the date. Again, welcome! Have fun! KnowledgeOfSelf 07:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I'll be officially coming off my break tomorrow myself! Glad to have you back really!
And as we celebrate, please read my essay that I just wrote. It is just a draft, so feel free to change it. I'm planning to publish it on Wikipediology.--ExirKamalabadiJoin Esperanza! 13:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
HE'S BACK! HE'S BACK! HE'S BACK!!! Woooooohooooooo!!!! Our vigil was not in vain! --Durin 16:07, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Welcome back. We miss you and hope you were OK. Hope you'll stay as long as you can. Mike Garcia 05:47, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank God that Redwolf never came back. What a pain in the a.....Redwolf! How's it going? Good to see you! :) Glad to see you're back from your extended wikibreak. I made a minor change on User:Redwolf24/Bootcamp heading; hope you don't mind. Ral315 (talk) 13:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Are you interested in participating in a Wikproject I just started? It's Wikipedia:WikiProject Punk music. Please list any pages you can think of that apply to the relevant sections, or create your own. Mike Garcia 16:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Welcome back. Although I'm not sure we've had any real contact, I am one of the silent majority which reads a lot nonetheless. I recognise the good work you've done around here and was saddened to see you go. Therefore, as a bribe, consider this cute little fawn as an offering, in the hopes that you will gorge yourself and decide to stay with the pack once again! :-)
A watered-down version of the proposed policy against censorship is now open for voting. Will you knidly review the policy and make your opinions known? Thank you very much. Loom91 10:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm glad to see you are back amongst us, and I hope real life schoolwork doesn't get too stressful for you. Vandal-whacking is always a fine way to relieve frustrations! :) Best wishes, Xoloz 17:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I'd grant you a happy first edit day greeting, and hope you are enjoying your wikibreak. MyNameIsNotBob 00:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Happy first edit day, may many more of your edits enlighten the world. (Why not be a tad bit dramatic? :) ) RyanGerbil10 01:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Happy anniversary to you Redwolf, for a year of productive and informing edits to the community. Regards,ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 02:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC).
I think the header says it all, but am I the only one who finds it humorous that your first edit was on 4-20? In any event, enjoy the day, and happy 1 year. -Mysekurity [m!] 04:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Ahh, Seattle time! 'Forgot about that! (It's still 1:30 here in the Big Apple). In any event, I'm looking to get rested up for tomorrow (today); big day ahead! Don't go doin nothin crazy! -Mysekurity [m!] 05:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for welcoming in me to Wikipedia on July 16th of last year.I know it has been a long since you have welcomed me but thank you because I was just a stray editor without a home who just wanted to work on the band Foreigner but you showed me that there was more to wikipedia and now I've got nearly 600 edits and have created many big beautiful articles on my own and am proud to be a wikipedian and it never would of happened without you, thank you. Patman2648 06:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Its good to see you back again. I don't edit much anymore but I do try to clean up the usual Microsoft-related article when I can. Hopefully you stay, or at least find a place where you appreciated because you really brought some light into this place. Lately, things have been very involved and hard to follow here.
Hey, I just noticed that you're on the list of former members at WP:ESP/M. Are you going to join us again now that you've returned? --TantalumTelluride 15:23, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Are you the guy that made that old Jack Thompson article? What happened to it? I can't find it, except for this other, not as good, one. So, yeah, what happened? :/
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As a party who has an insight in the continuing stalking I recieved, I feel you may want to comment at [102].
I feel User:Moby Dick is stalking me and has a good chance of being a sockpuppet fo davenbelle. I was told a checkuser is imposible since it has been over a mnoth since davenbelle made an edit.
Hello, Redwolf24/FullArchive — The highest Thank you for your support on my recent Nomination for Adminship. It succeeded with a final tally of 85/11/6 and I am now an administrator. Be sure to let me know what I can do for you. Bastique▼parlervoir 13:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
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I orphaned it as it's not a Template:Sportsposter as it was tagged as the template is only for sporting events posters. I been orphaning all those images that recently as almost all are copyvios including the Norris as a free use image can be replaced on it. Thanks Jarandawat's sup 17:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
On second thoughts I'm tagging it as promotional for now and replacing it back in the article as I didn't see a copyright tag in the website the image is from, my mistake. Jarandawat's sup 17:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I saw some images that were messing up the layout so I {{-}}-cleared them. Hope I didn't disturb anything. Master of PuppetsFREE BIRD! 04:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Redwolf24, I couldn't resist making the following userbox after reading the attached link. Feel free to remove this from your talk page if you don't appreciate the humour. = )
I notice you protected an AOL talk page about 10 months ago, I think it's probably safe to unprotect --AOL account (205.188.116.200) 16:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I did no such thing... Redwolf24 (talk) 00:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey there, my name is Nick, my username is Potters house and I have encountered a problem with trying to provide any information about Johnny Lee Clary. I have posted this post off to other staff members also. I am not sure if this is the best route to resolve this, but can think of no other way.
The article Johnny Lee Clary has been deleted. I have known Johnny through telephone conversations and email for a short time now (about 3-4 months). He recently came and shared his life story in for our church group for the first time just two weeks ago. Before I met Johnny I became interested in his story i.e. his conversion from the head of the KKK in the US, to being a Christian Minister who now teaches against race hate groups. I found the article Johnny Lee Clary as it still is today, deleted, except for some small talk. If you read the talk you see what I have said at the time (notice I have gotten no reply, probable my fault as I don’t know heaps about WIKI policy). From my understanding Johnny Lee Clary was posting as The KingOfDixie and looks like he tried to change a few things on Wiki concerning the KKK. While this is a controversial subject, Johnny being the former leader of the KKK would probably know a thing or two and be able to contibute, but that’s another story. He eventually made an article about himself i.e. Johnny Lee Clary. Johnny being quite new to Wiki and ignorant of rules of conduct found himself at odds with some admins and had his site deleted.
Whilst observing Johnny over the last 3-4 months I have noticed that he is very outspoken against race hate groups such as the Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK etc. This, more often than not, lands Johnny in the hot seat. He has experienced persecution from racist groups for his departure from the KKK and voiced opinions against these racist organizations on his webpage, www.xkkk.org. Johnny has also received multiple death threats.
Because of his bold stance against these racist groups Johnny has become accustomed to hatred directed at him by those same groups. Johnny concluded that perhaps the guy who deleted the page Johnny Lee Clary was a white supremist. I am hoping to clear this up. Before he told me this, I started to create J L Clary, after hearing nothing from posting in user talk on Johnny Lee Clary's article. I wasn't 10 minutes into the J L Clary article when it was issued a deletion notice, and then before I had time to reply (about 5 minutes) it was deleted! I was amazed. I told this to Johnny and he said the main reason he was told that he couldn't have an article was because he was not prominent enough.
When David Wilkerson came to our town hardly anyone knew or cared, yet David Wilkerson is allowed an article (and rightfully so), but more people know of Johnny. As to whether he is famous or not, just Google search him and see all the TV interviews and radio interviews he does. He hangs with some of the most prominent Christian leaders in Australia. Besides this, just being the former KKK leader should be enough for an article (he doesn't even get a mention in the KKK one, and would be deleted). He was also a Pro Wrestler. So he is prominent in Christian circles, he is prominent amongst race hate groups, and he is also prominent in the WWE wrestling.
Johnny asked me to test the waters for him to see if he was being persecuted by someone from a race hate group. So I created some sites, John ClaryWade Watts and Operation Colorblind - the name of Johnny's Ministry. These have been fine until yesterday. I cannot understand why these sites are just issued a deletion notice? Just because they mention JLC? I was hoping to discuss these things but they are just deleted. The one on Wade Watts is about a black gospel preacher who was one of the leaders in the civil rights movement in the US and was good friends with Martin Luther King. He took Johnny Clary under his wing and even ordained Johnny as a minister (to this day Johnny is the only white man ordained in the All Black Baptist Church). But his article is up for deletion because I mentioned Clary and had a link.
That is why I am writing to you to see if you can help. It seems to me that the person(s) deleting all articles which even mention Johnny Lee Clary has an agenda. I thought that wikipedia admins had to keep a neutral stance on every article. It seems like this guy has a vendetta against JLC. Why delete the Wade Watts article. That is guilt by association and could be proof that all deletions are because of racial discrimination! I hope this is not the case and would think that it is politically motivated, as Johnny is a strong supporter of George Bush and Antaeus Feldspar of Kerry.
My hope is that Johnny will be able to have an article like any other famous person, minister, former KKK leader, or pro wrestler, and that Johnny and anyone connected with him and his ministry will in future have certain rules set in place that do not allow the wholesale deletion of the articles associated with him, but that they will be at least discussed.
I thank you for reading this long winded post. I have only been using WIKI for about a year myself so I need your help, I don't really know what else to do. I hope you can help. I personally think that Johnny's story is one that is beneficial to the cause of reconciliation between races and to the3 unity of society as a whole. It would be a shame if WIKI became known for having covert racists. Of course I hope that this is a misunderstanding and that all will be cleared up soon.
Also note his contributions:
Featured articles:
· African American literature -- My first featured article. Thanks to everyone who gave feedback. While I didn't start the article, I obsessed on it for an entire month and wrote most of the copy.
· Ku Klux Klan -- I began work on this article after it became a featured article. Since then I've mediated several editorial disputes on the article (including one of which kept the article from being delisted as a FA) and made a large number of edit. Potters house 00:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Nick.
I've set up the Virtual classroom (VC), which is a forum for the discussion of advanced Wikipedia skills. It differs from the help forums on Wikipedia in that major topics of discussion are scheduled and once started remain continuous.
The reason I'm contacting you is because one of the class assignments is a comparison of our user interfaces. A lot can be learned from individual users, who usually have developed their own ways of doing things. I noticed you used to edit a lot, so you no doubt have some tricks you've learned over the years. I'm hoping that you will stop by and share your wiki-expertise for the benefit of others, to pass on your wiki-knowhow to a new generation of Wikipedians (whose lifespans are measured in their participation here). I've also constructed a tools page which presents everything learned from these discussions, and it is growing -- there are some pretty powerful techniques on there now. Even Interiot, Rich Farmbrough, and CBDunkerson have stopped by the VC to show off their tools and methods. It's been a lot of fun, and you are invited. The interface topics are called:
Given your extended absence, I doubt you'll see this for a while, but I archived off your talk page in the spirit of nostalga; I really miss having the opportunity to wander my way over here more often. Essjay(Talk) 06:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
If you'll note Redwolf24's contributions, you'll find he hasn't been active in quite some time; you might have better luck asking on a more active Wikipedian's talk page. Essjay(Talk) 02:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
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Just for the record: I searched for a source for this image and was unable to find one. I've replaced the image with a free one from Commons out of respect for Redwolf24, who was an excellent contributor and who is no longer available to provide the source himself. Essjay(Talk) 10:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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Awesome.
Eh. Awesome as in you are going to be more active? KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 04:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Awesome as in there was like 90 messages after I was dead and gone talking about images from an era where we weren't so paranoid. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I saw em thanks to that handy watchlist. Well if you're not going to be active again, it's still cool to see you drop by. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 04:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Somebody on Wikipedia likes short shorts, per the corollary to my first law. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 04:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
No one in the site has ever had a problem with vandals. The problems are trolls (though if you don't take things too seriously you should be okay), POV warriors, but most of all how much people seem to dislike eachother here. Like actually dedicated users really dislike eachother a lot. It's kinda sad. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Meh true, true, but hey I like Tito, and hey I like RedWolf24 too, all is not lost, just most of it. :p KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 04:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I am having a dispute with a user on FGC. I noticed your previous contribution and hoped you might provide some third-party commentary on a dispute at Blackworm’s objections. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Phyesalis (talk) 01:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really active at this point. Try the WP:MC. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for the suggestion! Phyesalis 02:29, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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Hello. I'm part of a research group at the University of Washington (Seattle campus), and my group is reaching out to Wikipedians in the Puget Sound area. We're hosting a focus group designed to gather information on what Wikipedians would like to know about each other when interacting on Wikipedia. Our end goal is to create an embedded application that helps people quickly know more about others' history and activity on Wikipedia, and we feel our design will be much more useful if it's based on insights of users like you.
I'm hoping that the chance to help out local researchers, to engage in lively face-to-face discussion with other Seattle Wikipedians, and to contribute to Wikipedia in a new way will entice you to join us. The session lasts 2 hours and snacks are provided. Sessions will be held on UW Seattle campus - directions will be sent after registration. Your contribution will be greatly appreciated!
Willing and able to help us out? RSVP here. Want to know more? Visit our user talk page . Please help us contact other local Wikipedians, too! Commprac01 (talk) 01:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
So I was glancing through my userpage and I saw a barnstar you left for me many moons ago.
"I, Redwolf24 hereby award you this barnstar for several reasons: You have over 8000 edits, you're funny, any wikipedian who's been around for more than a week should recognize you, I haven't seen you being uncivil, and you are all around a great user."
Is that true? Would any wikipedian recognize me? :P I always thought I flew a bit under the radar, my two runs for office notwithstanding. Anyway, I probably thanked you before, but belated thanks again. --Golbez (talk) 22:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
I have sent you an e-mail. --Tenmei (talk) 16:48, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your time and consideration. As a gesture of appreciation, may I share a rhetorical question from the Analects of Confucius: "Is it not pleasant to learn with a constant perseverance and application?" --Tenmei (talk) 00:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hello. You previously voted in the 2006 AfD for Suri Cruise. At the time, Suri was less than 10 days old, and the ultimate verdict was to turn the article into a redirect to her mother's page.
Since then, Suri has become much more notable in her own right as a toddler fashion icon, with over 13 million hits on google image search. After getting an administrator to lift the protection on the redirect, I recently restored the article as a stub, but an editor who believes that "6 year olds are not inherently notable" has again requested deletion.
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:BrianDennehySP.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.
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Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
Research: The most recent DR data
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Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
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I was watching VSiN today. I saw Joe Peta, someone who's professional life I follow closely, mention Prophet Exchange. I want to create them a Wikipedia page as none exists. I was told to contact you since you deleted a prior attempt.
Hello Alex, Redwolf24 has not edited since November 3, 2011, so I do not think they will be able to reply to you. IMiss2010 (talk) 15:25, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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hi me at pt 22:01, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
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hi me at pt 08:42, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
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Thanks for the barnstar, I'm glad you got the e-mail. Ha, ha. D. J. Bracey (talk) 
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Ryan Norton T | @ | C 06:12, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
It's not as hard as it looks: Build; don't destroy. As Mom used to say, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." Or, "Do as you would be done by."
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HIPPO BIRDY TWO EWES!
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-- Essjay · Talk 21:13, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
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Dragons flight 22:09, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
*Please stop permabanning people using AOL sharedips every ten seconds I get block messages telling me I'm this blocked user or that blocked user, It's impossible to edit from AOL anymore, just about.. OMG, it's not even the same user, each time It tells me my ip has recently been used by "etc.. yada yada" and each time it's a different name, this is getting kind of silly, can you reset the autobans on AOLs shared proxies or what?--64.12.116.74 23:11, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
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smile! 21:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
smile! 22:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
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I've also constructed a tools page which presents everything learned from these discussions, and it is growing -- there are some pretty powerful techniques on there now. Even Interiot, Rich Farmbrough, and CBDunkerson have stopped by the VC to show off their tools and methods. It's been a lot of fun, and you are invited. The interface topics are called:
Following a community discussion in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative permissions of users who have been inactive for one year (i.e. administrators who have not made any edits or logged actions in over one year). As a result of this discussion, your administrative permissions will be removed pending your return if you do not return to activity within the next month. If you wish to have these permissions reinstated should this occur, please post to the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard and the userright will be restored per the re-sysopping process (i.e., as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised and that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions). This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts.
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