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The WikiEagle - January 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, March 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Oswald Boelcke

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I have corrected your previous concerns about the above assessment. Are you going to return to this assessment and finish it?Georgejdorner (talk) 22:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your assessment of the above.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:28, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022

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False claim of vandalism

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Do not make claims in edit summaries that valid edits are vandalism as you just did at Hermann Hoth. Not only is that extremely poor wiki-etiquette, but it is highly misleading and just wrong. It is also disruptive, and you have been here long enough to know that it is not ok. If you make an edit and it is reverted or substantively changed, then follow WP:BRD and start a discussion on the talk page. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:58, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Peacemaker67: sorry, I assumed vandalism because it is self evident that it is an improvement. Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 12:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I completely disagree. It clearly is not an improvement. It adds confusion. Adding the literal translation doesn't help the reader's understanding one iota. English speakers will easily work out that Generalmajor translates as Major General without being told (likewise Generalleutnant), but adding it doesn't help their understanding at all, because that wasn't the equivalent rank at the time. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 13:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Peacemaker67: Let's agree to disagree, but you are the boss here and subsequently the gatekeeper of information. I can agree to you latest edit which adds "equivalent to". We are all good here MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In the WWII era, Generalmajor and Generalleutnant are one rank below the literal translations that you provide. Generalmajor is equivalent to brigadier and Generalleutnant is major general. The Germans had General der XX which is their equivalent of the American/Commonwealth Lieutenant General.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Precisely Sturm. I'm hardly the "boss" or "gatekeeper" MB, and I resent the assertion that I behave in that way. You initiated this by reverting my legitimate edit as "vandalism". If you want to have a substantive discussion about the merits or otherwise of your edits versus mine, let's have one on the talk page in question. Consensus will rule, as it should on WP. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:38, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Sturmvogel 66: @Peacemaker67: May I remind you of that my edit was: Generalmajor (Brigadier General—lit. 'Major General') and Generalleutnant (Major General—lit. 'Lieutenant General'). I did this to reflect exactly what Sturmvogel 66 said, a German Generalmajor semantically equates to a brigadier general while linguistically it translates to major general, likewise for the Generalleutnant. My addition was therefore 100% factually, semantically and linguistically correct. As said, how to reflect this ambiguity in translation is a matter of style and I am okay with the current "equates to" result. Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 04:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022

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The name's not familiar, but I'll check my bookcase and get back to you.Georgejdorner (talk) 23:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Winterfelt is not listed as an ace. However, the five victory standard for recognition was not a universal measure in WWI air forces. The Imperial German Air Force laid emphasis on the fourth and tenth victories.Georgejdorner (talk) 05:14, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CC, December 2022

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Hello! Please tell me why this person is present simultaneously in two mutually exclusive lists: List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (D) and List of foreign recipients of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross? Other Belgians, Latvians, etc. in the service of the Wehrmacht are not included in the list of foreign recipients and other foreigners are not listed by letter. Wild Child (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wild Child (talk • contribs) [reply]

ok, i got that point, thanks. please tell me then this: 7321 recipients of the Knight's Cross and 43 foreign recipients are indicated. How is Léon Degrelle counted? Not twice? Wild Child (talk) 15:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.151.28.170 (talk) [reply]

The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023

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Friedrich-Karl "Tutti" Müller

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The Bugle: Issue 213, January 2024

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List of World War II aces credited with 100 or more victories

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It seems to me that the title of this article should include either German or Luftwaffe. I think a reader might expect to find all World War II aces with 100 or more victories from every country under the current title. If you think there is a good reason not to include this, let me know. From limited knowledge and a quick look at a few other lists, I think it is likely that no other country had aces with that many victories. Perhaps that should be mentioned as well (or maybe instead?).

I think it would be good to include a reference in the introduction since there is nothing in the article which mentions this information with a reference. I will not go so far as to say it is required, but I could see someone sticking a cn tag on it in the future.

Let me know whether you agree with these suggestions. Then I will go ahead with the assessment. This is a great article and I look forward to putting the BL assessment on it. Donner60 (talk) 10:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the 100+ victory aces are German. Other nations rotated their pilots between combat and training duties, operated inferior aircraft or just saw sporadic combat in response to Allied attacks.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 214, February 2024

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Hartmann Grasser

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I have assessed Hartmann Grasser as B class for all projects. I took the liberty of changing "United States Armed Forces" to "United States Army" as the force which took Grasser prisoner at the end of the war. United States Armed Forces is a general article about all service branches. It has a template that shows it needs substantial improvement. More to the point, only the U.S. Army would have been taking prisoners after the Nazi surrender. The U.S. Marines did not fight in Europe. If you believe my change is an error, please change it. As info, there is also an article on Military history of the United States during World War II. I looked through part of it quickly but did not see a direct reference to taking prisoners by the U.S. Army. However, I would not expect such a long overall article to have that level of specificity. Thanks for your work on this. Donner60 (talk) 02:17, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bugle: Issue 215, March 2024

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Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Organization of the Luftwaffe (1933–1945)/1

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I saw this article was up for reassessment when I looked at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history tonight. I thought you might be interested if you haven't seen it. The request for reassessment notes there are 24 citation needed tags on the article. Donner60 (talk) 03:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Arthur Godenau

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The Bugle: Issue 216, April 2024

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List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (G)

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Hello! The preamble to this article it is written that there are 380 people awarded. However, when the list is recalculated, the result is 381 people. Where did the error creep in? Wild Child (talk) 03:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024

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I have assessed the article as B class. I assume no information is readily available about whether he was married and had children. I think it would be good to add this if it is available without spending much time on it. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 03:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024

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The Bugle: Issue 219, July 2024

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The Bugle: Issue 220, August 2024

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The Bugle: Issue 221, September 2024

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Peter Duttmann

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I have reassessed the article as B class. I am going offline for several days so I thought I would clear this one because there is only one small issue. Please add a citation for the last sentence in the first paragraph of World War II: "He downed another 24 by the end of the year." I suspect that the citation after the preceding sentence is the source but I don't have access to it so I cannot confirm this. If you do not have a source, deleting the sentence is an alternative. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 02:57, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Emil Bitsch

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I see this is tagged for American English. While I am adamant about adding this tag to US unit articles, I wonder if it's needed for a German. Also there's a reference to Jafü Holland. Isn't this short for Jagdführer Holland? I didn't check to see who started the [[refgroup=note]] for the Notes. I've used that format myself, but {{efn|}} is available and lists notes alphabetically. Good work, BTW. Lineagegeek (talk) 20:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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