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Please join the discussion at Talk:United States House of Representatives elections, 2008#Charts.—Markles 16:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Deaths in 2006

Hi, I already cleaned up Deaths in December 2006. Prior to that month it's a mess, a real dog's dinner. Redlinks aplenty, many nationalities missing, format problems etc. There's a challenge waiting there ... I have thought about it from time to time, but kept putting it off. Perhaps you might like to begin with Deaths in November 2006 and see how it goes? It's probably easier to do one day at a time, breaking up the task into smaller units. If you find that it's a do-able task, then I will try to find the time (and patience) to join in on some other months. Regards, WWGB (talk) 02:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing user pages

I would appreciate you NOT editing my user page. If you notice something is out of date you may mention it on my Talk page.DerbyCountyinNZ (talk) 10:09, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comment on List of the verified oldest people

A request for comment has been initiated at Talk:List of the verified oldest people. As you have been involved in the issue, you may wish to comment there. Cheers, CP 00:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

May 2008

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Colin Murdoch and Deaths in 2008#7

Have a look here and New Zealand. Read them and learn from them. I concede that 'New Zealander' sounds cumbersome, but nevertheless it is correct, and as such should be used in an encyclopeadic article. If the word really upsets you that much and you want to use an alternative, then maybe try 'New Zealand-born'. Finally, I took the effort to enter a hidden comment asking that any edit such as your's be explained on a discussion page; if you are editing in good faith, please make some effort to argue your change with citations and/or examples rather than the somewhat meaningless 'wrong context' in your edit summary. Mannafredo (talk) 18:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does sound cumbersome, but the main reason that I would change that is that that is WWGB's opinion on the matter Star Garnet (talk) 18:40, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Murdoch's article begins "Colin Albert Murdoch MNZM (6 February 1929 – 4 May 2008) was a New Zealand pharmacist and veterinarian". Why, then, would his death notice not read "Colin Murdoch, 79, New Zealand inventor ... "? Why is New Zealand inventor any different to New Zealand pharmacist? Would you describe Helen Clark as the New Zealander Prime Minister? WWGB (talk) 22:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But for this, I would have argued that both articles were wrong, and that just because something sounds cumbersome, does not mean it isn't correct. Read the first line of this article. Regards, Mannafredo (talk) 08:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Emigration and citizenship

Hi Star Garnet. Re our "edit war" over Fred J. Taylor (only joking), there are many people who emigrate to Australia without becoming Australian citizens. Their status is permanent resident but not citizen. (I know because my wife is in this category). There is nothing in the article to suggest that Taylor ever became an Australian citizen, hence it is not appropriate to refer to him as Australian. The fact that Taylor returned to live in the United Kingdom suggests that he never renounced his British citizenship. That's why I would just refer to him as British. Regards, WWGB (talk) 01:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the insight! Star Garnet (talk) 02:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Howard Dill

Sorry, I didn't realise that Howard Dill already redirects to Atlantic Giant when I reverted. I hate those dumb pages that redirect to something else. It makes Howard Dill look like a blue link when there is no article about him. I look forward to his entry being deleted in one month! Regards, WWGB (talk) 14:19, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does notability have geographical boundries?

Hi, as some of your past edits have inspired me to ask the above question, I thought I might pass you a heads-up to my edit on the Wikipedia talk:Notability page. I'm putting this on WWGB's talk page also. Regards, Mannafredo (talk) 13:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Keenan

Do you have a source describing him as a peace activist? --RaiderAspect (talk) 03:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you do not have a source, I must ask you to cease editing the entry to claim he was a "peace activist". --RaiderAspect (talk) 15:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths in May 2008

Hi, I curious as to why you are removing redlinked names from this page? Is there some sort of guideline behind this? Surely if a persons death is covered in obituaries by mainstream media then this would confer notability and these redlinks should on day become blue? Indeed, I myself have seen redlinks on these lists in the past of figures I am interested in an created articles for them. Why therefore are you removing them?--Jackyd101 (talk) 00:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The established rule for the recent deaths is that redlinks should remain for a month after the date of death. The general belief is that an article would have been created if they were significant enough to warrant one. Happy editing! Star Garnet (talk) 00:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, although it seems a bit odd to me. Presumably that means that if people want to see any redlinks from more than a month ago they have to go trawling through the history to find them. Where is this rule laid down, I'd be interested in seeing it?--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tell me about it. That's exactly the point I was making when I brought the subject up on the notabilty talk pages, here. Mannafredo (talk) 09:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting...

You might want to see this. I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 01:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also note the statement "when considering adding red links to lists or disambiguation pages, editors are encouraged to write the article first. Red links should not be created for topics that are unlikely ever to have articles" which comes from the same source. Regards, WWGB (talk) 02:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section Editorofthewiki links to leans much more to the retention of red-links in death pages than the statement you have chosen above. Your statement is misleading on two levels. 1. 'editors are encouraged...' to write the article first. The article wasn't written first and we can't go back in time and change that. Live with it, it's no reason to then delete the link to person who belongs on a 'list of notable people who have died'. 2. '...should not be created for topics that are unlikely ever to have articles...' relates, as stated, to things like 'every chapter in a book', not people who have more or less been proved notable by their appearance in other WPs. Mannafredo (talk) 09:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"it's no reason to then delete the link to person who belongs on a 'list of notable people who have died' ". How do we know they are notable? Because the authoring editor claims? How do I get to challenge that assertion of notability?

Conversely, if I write

Michael Meehan, 53, British backhoe loader driver, machine plunged over cliff. [1]

then the entry cannot be deleted? If it can be deleted, who decides? WWGB (talk) 12:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

'How do we know they are notable?'. We look around the media available to us; google news, newspapers, other wikis etc, and then make the call to keep, dump (both are perfectly bold) or go looking for consensus. Each and every case should be addressed on its merits alone. Some should survive as a red-links and some deleted. If creating a stub is easy, then the media search I describe here is even easier. Although a stub is preferable, it should not be a prerequisite to recognising notability. Systematic deletion of 'all' red-links just because they are red, especially in list-type articles/pages, seems to me uncalled for. I would also argue that it is irrelevant whether the red-link has been red for one month or five years. Regards, Mannafredo (talk) 13:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]

There is no way to decide what to keep and what not to fairly, so the only clean option is to set a deadline for the creation of an article. Besides, there is no point in making a stub that is orphaned apart from the deaths page just to keep it on the list. Star Garnet (talk) 21:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that many articles I have created were, upon creation, not linked except for the recent death page; Mary Meader, which I added the first link (to Deaths in 2008), is currently at GAC. The community should decide which redlinks should be included and the ones not to include (the one WWGB provided would be uncontroversial). Just because it doesn't have an article doesn't mean its not notable, and it could deprive the encyclopedia of content if we remove the one and only link. I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 21:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have to say that this sounds quite sensible. For example, I recently added Reg Flewin to the Deaths in May 2008. Flewin was a top professional footballer in England during the 1930s and 1940s who clearly qualifies for notability on several different criteria. Under the current rules however, unless someone creates the article in the next 20 days (and I had no intention of doing it myself until I read this discussion), his name will be deleted and it will be up to someone who creates the article at some point in the future to add the name back to the correct deaths page. It seems to me that this is a bit of a waste of time for all involved - every person listed at the deaths page has to given a reliable source mentioning their death and indicating their notability already, so I don't really see the need for this extra round of deletions.--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As another thought, would it not be more sensible to list all month old names that have no article at Wikipedia:Requested articles and allow the people there to decide whether or not to create an article on them using the source provided on the page here? If they create it then these lists will be all blue and if they do not then the name can be deleted from here then.--Jackyd101 (talk) 00:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UK Cricket Clubs

Hi, the convention in UK is to refer to County Cricket clubs as just name of the county, e.g. "Yorkshire", so I've reverted your addition of "Club" as it would jar with a Brit. --Rodhull andemu 15:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The only thing is that the wording seems out of context for those who don't know the workings of cricket. Your call. Star Garnet (talk) 15:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

Can you explain your comment on the AfD page for Appeasement of Hitler? I am very interested. Thanks. 129.71.73.243 (talk) 21:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unexplained revert

It is not good form to revert an edit without explanation. Could you explain why you feel the Manual of Style on Capital letters, which is clear that official job titles are proper nouns deserving of capitalisation, does not apply to this particular article? There is an ongoing debate at Talk:Deaths in 2008. Sam Blacketer (talk) 08:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Members of the Canadian Senate

Sorry, my revert was a mistake. — Xavier, 22:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Star Garnet (talk) 22:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion

I know you don't like to use edit summaries, but reverting someone's edit without any explanation is a little rude. Can you explain how this guy is notable? WP:NOTNEWS. Tan ǀ 39 17:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

His notability streams from his being a CEO, and even more from the nature of his death at the Beijing Olypmics will probably lead to an article for him in the near future. Compared to many people listed on the deaths page, he has a fair amount of significance. Star Garnet (talk) 17:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree; CEOs are not inherently notable, and you're presuming that he will be the focus of significant coverage (HIM, not the event, which has already obviously had significant coverage). The person needs to be notable in their own right to be included on here, not just a participant in a news event. Tan ǀ 39 17:10, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even though he may not be overly significant he will be removed from the deaths list if an article is not written for him within a month. And if those such as murder victims recieve articles, I believe it is worth giving this guy a chance. Star Garnet (talk) 17:14, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, okay. I guess I want notability first, inclusion second... but it's not really hurting anything, is it? Thanks for sourcing it. Tan ǀ 39 17:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I guess that I have to say that I believe that many people listed on the deaths pages aren't really worthy of an article, but you just have to please as many people as you can. I wouldn't write an article for Bachman, but over the months that I've watched the deaths pages, I've learned that someone like Bachman would just be added again after they've been deleted. Star Garnet (talk) 17:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMPORTANT

Please see Talk:Deaths in 2008#Bare references. Regards, WWGB (talk) 21:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbabwe / Rhodesia and the FIA (SAm Tingle)

Hi Star Garnet,

I noticed you reverted things on Sam Tingle.

Here is what I am trying to communicate, so maybe we can work together for a good solution: Sam Tingle raced as a Rhodesian per the FIA in Formula One motorsport. Therefore he was a Rhodesian. Rhodesia inconveniently changed its name to Zimbabwe, but Tingle never raced as a Zimbabwean, so he was a Rhodesian.

Any ideas how to condense this while listing Tingle as a Rhodesian per the FIA? -- Guroadrunner (talk) 22:07, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I actually think that it shouldn't matter, and that he should be listed as Zimbabwean. Scottish, Nothern Irish, and Welch footballers are listed as British, and ex-Soviet athletes are listed are Russian or whichever ex-Soviet state they hail from. Since Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe, this standard should be applied to all sports notables. Star Garnet (talk) 23:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Senate Seniority

Sorry I undid all of your revisions. I will see what I can do about putting them back.--Dr who1975 (talk) 23:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the IP guy put all your edits back. I compared to make sure. Sorry again.--Dr who1975 (talk) 01:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Award

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Solomon Islands

Hi. I don't want to take our friendly 'edit war' any further, especially since Donald Luddington may well be a deleted redlink in one month's time anyway. It frustrates me that there is a difference between his titles and terms at worldstatesman.org and at rulers.org. Do you know if one site is more reliable than the other? It just seems funny that he could have two titles/positions at the same time. Regards, WWGB (talk) 06:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I managed to find about six backing worldstatemen and none backing rulers, but that doesn't mean much; however, I did discover that he had been knighted. Star Garnet (talk) 00:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Austin Denney

Thank you for removing Austin Denney from the deaths for January 20. I realize he was a football player who had a lot of notability, but that you had removed him was of great relief to him and his family, whom I have know since the mid 1970s. Your deletion is greatly appreciated on this. Chris (talk) 14:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting months far too early

I entirely disagree with edits like this one. I've brought this up on the talk page. Michael Hardy (talk) 04:54, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Vandalism"?

The fact that you disagree with a particular edit does not make it "vandalism". Michael Hardy (talk) 18:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would hope that you would know standard policy by now. Determine consensus before making a change in long-standing policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Star Garnet (talk • contribs)

I wasn't proposing to change a policy, but rather to create a policy where there was none before. (If such a policy existed, please point it out to me.) It differs from what had been customary, and in that it resembles edits I make every day to articles, in which I change material that's been there for a long time. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting months

Star Garnet, it was never proposed that months be split as you implemented. What editors wanted was for ALL of February deaths to remain on the Deaths in 2009 page until 3-7 days had elapsed, then to transfer the whole of February to Deaths in February 2009. That is how I have implemented the suggestion. By March 7, all February deaths should then be moved to Deaths in February 2009. Regards, WWGB (talk) 11:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of members of the United States Congress by longevity of service

IT looks like we were inthere the same time... it's weird... I didn;t get an edit conflict.--Dr who1975 (talk) 16:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian senators

Good work with reformatting that list! Makes it much easier to use. I think you already have seen that I added a column. There are two entries I wasn't sure about. Would you have a look at: Talk:Senate_of_Canada#Senators_appointed_in_1965. -- User:Docu

Thanks for your answer. -- User:Docu

Living former members of the United States cabinet

Thanks so much for working on the page. Great start so far. I wanted to do something similar after I initially created the page, but the job seemed so overwhelming. Thanks for taking over! Memworking (talk) 16:17, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Memworking[reply]

Longevity

I left the incorrect note because I didn't want to make an edit just to change a note... I guess once I'd made the error I was also wondering if anyone would catch it. I see you picked up on Don Young moving today too... good catch.--Dr who1975 (talk) 02:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Longest living United States Senator

I'm not sure what your proposal is. Could you explain? -Rrius (talk) 04:26, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see you added Alan Dixon with the death of Bellmon. That raises the question of where you get this great information and whether we can add the next few in a comment at the end of the list so they are right there when the next person on the list dies. -Rrius (talk) 01:03, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Legislatures

Hi Star Garnet. Just wanted to let you know that I finally responded to your comment over on my talk page; haven't logged in in a while. Cheers! Qqqqqq (talk) 22:33, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hassan al-Hakim

Hi could you explain this edit? What is "general Arabic consensus" and what is your source for it? Thanks and Cheers, CP 00:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Band members

Under WP:MUSICBIO, band members are redirected to the band article unless they are individually notable. I have always cut some slack in this area, but you are right - death notices for band members could be deleted if they have no article. I am not aware of any particular discussion around this topic. Regards, WWGB (talk) 02:02, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert McIntosh

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Zakaria Mohieddin

What source do you have to state that Mohieddin is "legally" dead? --Dangermouse600 (talk) 09:14, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still interested in the answer to my question. What is your source to declare that Mohieddin is dead? --Dangermouse600 (talk) 23:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As now is clear, who had no source to add his death. Not able to read the Arabic Language you added a source you did not understand, washing away those who pointed out that the passing of Mohieddin wasn't said in this source. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate your work in Wikipedia, but this was bullshit! Please be more careful in the future. Kind Regards --Dangermouse600 (talk) 08:58, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I love false accusations... Star Garnet (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Desmond Fernando

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Regarding our edit war on List of Game of Thrones characters, most TV show cast pages now have the appearance table at the bottom as the table becomes too large (depending on the number of seasons) and takes away from the point of the article - descriptions of the cast. This information should precede the appearance table.

A 'recurring' appearance is appearing more than one time in a season while not being part of the main ensemble. If an actor/character only appears once in a season, they cannot be recurring - this makes it a 'guest' appearance.

I have updated the table to include lots of major recurring characters who were not on it before the edit. Please do not revert the table. This table and it's format is in line with other tv show wikitables. BSCD128 (talk) 05:25, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Which shows? There are very few comparable to GOT, and most that are (ST, etc.) don't have tables at all. When there are tables, they are almost always at the top, as they are generally a focal point of the article. This show has too many people with opinions on this show to have an arbitrary standard for who would qualify for the recurring table. Added to how ugly the table you mangled is, and your edits border on vandalism. Star Garnet (talk) 06:09, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't hard to decide who has a recurring role - it is quite simple - any actor who has appeared more than once in a season but is not part of the main cast. That's a recurring role, not much to debate about.

The table layout is exactly the same as it was before - not sure how it's 'ugly' or 'mangled' now. More content has been added - that's it.

Not sure how updating information on a table is considered vandalism.

I'm fine with leaving the table at the top of the page, but do not undo the updates to the table. Many major recurring characters have been added including updates for season six.

Which shows? Every one I can think of, except maybe Dexter. BSCD128 (talk) 06:27, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you please show me where Samuel Conti is still on the court? I know FJC still says he's in senior status but I don't see him listed as an active member of the court in any of it's divisions. According to this press release he retired in October 2015.

Is there evidence to the contrary?

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Both Judges Fullam and Harvey have retired and are still listed as Incumbent. WatersR 13:54, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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Why are you removing an official judicial photo just for a "better" image? Snickers2686 (talk) 17:42, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Snickers2686 A blurry thumbnail photo? A photo like that should only be the lead photo when necessary (so, fair use or when nothing else is available). You can of course replace it with his US attorney photo or insert the thumbnail below. Star Garnet (talk) 17:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your list of oldest leaders is missing Biljana Plavšić who was in Bosnia's collective presidency briefly (including the period after independence) and is older than many featured leaders. --Killuminator (talk) 15:36, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I just want to thank you or your passion for uploading pictures for federal judges. I have uploaded numerous pics including most of President Biden's nominees, but some of the older judges are harder to get pictures for. The senate judiciary committee website videos for the nominees don't play on their site so I'm happy to see you have been able to find some of the judges' pics I have not been able to find. I think between you & I, we can get most of the circuit court & a majority of the district court pics uploaded.

There is one remaining circuit court judges that have not announced retirement that I have not been able to find a picture for;

Harris Hartz

All of the Obama, Trump & Biden district court judges have pictures. Here are the active GW Bush judges that do not have pictures.

Clay Daniel Land, Jay Christopher Zainey, Christopher Charles Conner, David Charles Godbey, Jose E. Martinez, James Edgar Kinkeade, Alia Moses,Thomas Alexander Varlan, Philip Peter Simon, Louise Wood Flanagan, Earl Leroy Yeakel III, Robert David Proctor, Ronald Allen White, Marcia Ann Cain Crone, Kenneth Michael Karas, Paul Steven Diamond, Jane Ellen Jackson Boyle, Robert Bryan Harwell, Timothy Carroll Batten Sr., Thomas Edward Johnston, Aida Milagros Delgado-Colón, Susan Davis Wigenton, Renee Marie Bumb, Thomas Lamson Ludington, Gregory Kent Frizzell, Robert James Jonker, Timothy D. DeGiusti, William Lindsay Osteen Jr., Martin Karl Reidinger, Sharion Marie Aycock, Robert Michael Dow Jr., Joseph Normand Laplante, Thomas David Schroeder, James Randal Hall, Mark Steven Davis, Paul G. Gardephe, Glenn Thomas Suddaby, Cathy Seibel, Eric Franklin Melgren

Thanks again

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Page moves

I notice you have been making many page moves with the rationale "common name" eg in the past 24 hours:

Stephen Benton Elkins --> Stephen B. Elkins
John Tyler Morgan --> John T. Morgan
Joseph Lafayette Rawlins --> Joseph L. Rawlins
William Freeman Vilas --> William F. Vilas
Shelby Moore Cullom --> Shelby M. Cullom
John James Ingalls --> John J. Ingalls

It just seems like shortening the middle name by default, then justifying the page move as "common name" with no real rationale why that's actually the common name. -- GreenC 13:12, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GreenC: And there are roughly 150 more senators' pages left to move to finally bring them into compliance with WP:MIDDLE ("Adding given names, or their abbreviations, merely for disambiguation purposes (if that format of the name is not commonly used to refer to the person) is not advised."). This is a relic of the pages largely being named after their congressional directory biographies, which use the most complete name available in congressional files, and the status of most of them as some of the oldest pages on WP while not drawing significant attention. I expect roughly 20 moves to require discussion largely due to disambiguators; I'm saving those till the end for what will hopefully be a bulk discussion. Thanks to the era in which most of these improperly named pages were well-known (1850-1950), roughly 80%-90% of the moves will result in First M. Last, rather than First Last. (I'm sure there are some currently at First M. Last that should be a First Last, and vice versa, but I won't be diving into that except for a few brought to my attention by a comparison with [4] and other states' corresponding pages.) There are a handful that will end up at F. M. Last, but I avoid that unless it's overwhelming. I've already moved most of those that went by their middle names, although there are at least three on the docket left to move to F. Middle Last. I rely primarily on newspapers.com in determining a common name, aided principally by WorldCat and HathiTrust. While I run through permutations of names and nicknames, this particular set of moves, with minimal exceptions, match the senate's list linked above (note that while the senate's historian controls 90% of the list, recent senators have control over how their name is displayed; thus Katie Boyd Britt rather than Katie Britt, Gordon Douglas Jones rather than Doug Jones, and Thomas Hawley Tuberville rather than Tommy Tuberville). Star Garnet (talk) 17:31, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok great, sounds like you are on top of things and know what you are doing more than me :) Wanted to check and make sure as some users might have a more simple view (ie. change all middle names to abbreviated). Thanks for noticing this issue and making corrections and taking the time to explain. -- GreenC 18:20, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, it's good to check in on such things, and perhaps my attempt to WP:FIXIT is trying to be a bit too efficient; I could leave a note on the corresponding talk pages before moving. Star Garnet (talk) 18:43, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever Featured articles are moved, it will get flagged for attention, as is currently happening with William O. Bradley at Wikipedia:Featured_articles/mismatches (a report I wrote). Same with Good articles at Wikipedia:Good_articles/mismatches, but that report is less significant in terms of concern. -- GreenC 14:39, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Ralph Owen Brewster

Please return the page to its previous name and engage in a discussion. As you can see on the talk page, I started a discussion in 2021, in which you are welcomed to participate. Unilaterally changing the name of a contested page is not acceptable.--User:Namiba 02:08, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Namiba: There's nothing unacceptable about reverting a move that was based on faulty info (using sources that commonly use full names to demonstrate that a full name is a common name). To expand on what I said on the Brewster talk page, here are the newspaper mentions broken out by era:

Era	Ralph Owen Brewster	Ralph O. Brewster	Ralph Brewster	R. O. Brewster	R. Owen Brewster	Owen Brewster
with governor/gov.	30 (0%)	13,178 (85%)	1,913 (12%)	169 (1%)	8 (5%)	218 (1%)
with representative/rep./congressman	5 (0%)	5,258 (77%)	1,397 (21%)	114 (1%)	2 (0%)	23 (0%)
other, 1910-1945	75 (0%)	16,880 (58%)	8,765 (30%)	950 (3%)	109 (0%)	2,426 (8%)
with senator/sen.	428 (1%)	8,662 (11%)	2,761 (3%)	154 (0%)	152 (0%)	67,145 (85%)
other, 1945-1960	51 (0%)	429 (2%)	3,485 (14%)	110 (0%)	792 (3%)	20,070 (81%)
obituaries (1961)	75 (7%)	17 (1%)	94 (8%)	4 (0%)	6 (0%)	956 (83%)
posthumous in Maine	117 (10%)	113 (9%)	336 (28%)	2 (0%)	9 (1%)	639 (53%)

This is clearly a case of WP:NAMECHANGES where the changed name was/is widely used by RS and the change was dramatic. Ralph Owen Brewster certainly is not his common name, and Ralph O. Brewster ceased being his common name in the early 1940s. If you still feel that there is a better page title, you're welcome to propose it. Star Garnet (talk) 04:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there certainly is something wrong with moving a page without first participating in a discussion about it while a discussion is clearly needed. You can make one determination about the name and I may make another. We should be building consensus, which you clearly did not do. So again, I ask that you move the name back to where it was for years and let's discuss it on the talk page.--User:Namiba 04:20, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As WP:COMMONNAME states, "In determining which of several alternative names is most frequently used, it is useful to observe the usage of major international organizations, major English-language media outlets, quality encyclopedias, geographic name servers, major scientific bodies, and notable scientific journals." The name used by obituaries is much less important than how he is remembered today, which is overwhelmingly not Owen Brewster.--User:Namiba 04:27, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Why are there so many changes on article names of a lot of elected politicians and making their middle names into initials? NewDealChief (talk) 11:30, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is quite rare that a person's full name is their WP:COMMONNAME. There are exceptions, like William Howard Taft and Philip Seymour Hoffman, but they are just that (exceptions). Oftentimes, articles with a First Middle Last title are named such because they were labeled as such in an encyclopedia or database, where that is the common format, and nobody bothered to check what their common name (as gauged through newspapers, books, etc.) actually was/is. As for why most get moved from First Middle Last to First M. Last rather than First Last (or F. Middle Last vs. Middle Last), a) up until the 1950s, most American public figures were commonly known as such, and b) even if they're not the most common form of someone's name, they're generally the next-most common, and provide WP:NATURAL disambiguation rather than parenthetical. Star Garnet (talk) 21:56, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also curious about what your plans for this draft are. Cheers! BD2412 T 01:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ABA rating on an Obama nominee

You definitely seem to know more about this than me, I had a question about a nominee of Obama's; they appear to have gotten a rating of Q/WQ without any majority/minority subheadings, are you familiar with this? I'm not sure how to sort it. Nevermore27 (talk) 15:34, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Darrin P. Gayles is the nom btw

@Nevermore27: I'm not sure in this instance. Possibilities include: 1) a transcription error, 2) a tie where they forgot to list a recusal, and 3) a tie when there was a vacancy on the board and they didn't bother to have a re-vote when they got back to full capacity. I'd probably sort it between WQm/Qmin and Qm/WQmin. Star Garnet (talk) 16:39, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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