User talk:Swampyank

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Paul's Bridge

I had to chuckle at the troll under the bridge edit I made to your Paul's Bridge entry. Sorry to leave that little bit of graffiti, but I promise to you that I improved the entry. I was looking at the nomination form while I wikied it, and decided to add to your entry. I am currently an intern for the DCR at Boston and I am filing firsthand documents such as the one I referenced in the article. I did in fact explain the historical significance of the name, something I would encourage anyone to do when writing anything of historical merit. I also thought the boundary explanation was a bit too conversational, so I hope my embellishment is appreciated. Thanks for creating the entry, best wishes. 146.243.4.157 (talk) 20:10, 16 March 2011 (UTC)Kevin

Thanks for adding and sourcing the article. Swampyank (talk) 03:52, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

the red house manor

Hello, my name is Patrick de Friberg the french-canadian writer. In your page, you wrote "The Fairbanks House (1636-1640) is the oldest timber frame house in North America". I am living in the oldest one, near Quebec city, built in 1608-1610. In 1652, when Sir Bertrand de la Garenne bought the place, he found "a solid ruin with a 5ft stone fireplace. In 1764, the captain Cazaux built a second stage. You can see pictures in my facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=817&id=1604288524&l=29c3a9c9a8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.20.86.120 (talk) 22:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

John Dunjee

I deleted the category before I read the entire article. I think he would be considered an alleged Presidential child, at least for now. It is very interesting though and even more interesting if true. It deserves investigation. Tyler was quite the baby maker! Jjmillerhistorian 23:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello...

Great adds to the Bates College article, thanks! Lostvalley 03:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi - I see that you posted an example of a JD cert from Suffolk - my son just enrolled at Suffolk for the fall summester, and I wondered if you might be able to give us some pointers to life and acedemia at suffolk law school - contact me at m_a_p@hotmail.com, if you're able. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.166.171 (talk) 22:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Bamford

Are you related to Suffolk in anyway? Feel free to email me. Yanksox 18:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I figured that. I think I'm going to try to see Bamford and Carrol speak, it looks good. Yanksox 20:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Providence, Rhode Island

Editor, I've noticed your contributions to the Providence, Rhode Island article. I've just nominated it for Featured Article status. FA page is here. Your feedback and assistance would be greatly appreciated.--Loodog 04:32, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Smile!

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Good start

I was doing some newpage patroling, and I wanted to tell you that you made a good start with Frank J. Williams. After all, everyone needs positive encouragement once in a while. Keep up the good work! —ScouterSig 06:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Wanton-Lyman-Hazard House

What a happy coincidence that you created the article the day before I got back from a recent trip to Rhode Island, right before I was going to upload the pictures I took in Newport in February. Funny how things work out here ...

I have expanded the article, brought it up to WP:NRHP standards a little bit, and now I'm going to list it for DYK (you'll get credit for creating it). Daniel Case (talk) 10:10, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Old Colony House

Thank you again for your work on this article (it took a while to decide what we should call it, but I'm satisfied with this name). I was able in my recent expansion to keep the picture; I have nominated it too for DYK, and included you in the crediting. Also good work starting the Munday and Isham articles too. Daniel Case (talk) 06:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Oldest buildings in the United States

		The Original Barnstar
		For the creation of Oldest buildings in the United States, which is a very good idea, I hereby award you this barnstar. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:30, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

5/4 DYK

On 4 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bellevue Avenue Historic District, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford 20:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome

Belated acceptance of your thanks, now that Flying Horse Carousel finally has a picture, the last of the RI NHLs from my trip there two weeks ago. I can now move on to expanding some of the newer ones, hopefully earning you and me more DYKs. Daniel Case (talk) 05:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiCookie

Just stopping by with cookies for those editors who started new articles today. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places articles

I noticed you've been doing a number of articles about properties on the National Register of Historic Places, and I'm impressed that you've created so many articles. You've obviously been doing a lot of work.

I thought I'd mention that I have a copy of the National Register database loaded on my Web server, and I have some query tools that might be useful. From this site, you can find an infobox generator that generates the {{Infobox nrhp}} code for any given property, including the degree/minute/second coordinates for most properties (where they're published, anyway). I also have listing tools for cities and counties. You're welcome to use them if you're interested. Also, you're welcome to check out Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. Again, good work on the articles! --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 04:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Mr. SwampYank,

My friend, Woldhagen, is currently in jail on minor charges and would be thrilled (as soon as he's released) to see his name in the article on the Canon Ranch historic windmill. The information I added is accurate (except for the part about my friend being so handsome). Please leave it alone until he can see it. I'll personally remove it immediately as soon as that happens (couple more weeks, tops). Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGonzoGoatRancher (talk • contribs) 10:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I noticed you joined WP:NRHP. I know that you have created many nice articles and know your way around already. Glad to see you finally joined! :)

That's a nice pic you just added to your John N. A. Griswold House article. I just added more material to the article; as you see i kinda specialize in adding sources. Perhaps you'll find the NHL nomination PDF document, now linked, helpful in further developing the article. I eventually get around to adding that stuff to articles about NHLs, for which such PDF documents are usually on-line. Let me know if you ever want quicker service... :) Anyhow, keep up the good work! doncram (talk) 01:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Uploading images

You have uploaded some really good photographs. I wanted to suggest that you consider uploading them to http://commons.wikimedia.org so that they can be used in all Wikipedias, including the English-language one. Once you've done so, you could add the pictures to the appropriate articles in each of the other languages without having to upload the image to each Wikipedia. --Eastmain (talk) 02:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Portsmouth RI

Thanks for the historical additions! jmcdaid (talk) 11:33, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

When I was a kid living in Portsmouth, I would wait for the bus near the Historical Society. This old schoolhouse was in back. I have seen it hundreds of times. A little spooky to see it again... The Yodling Crosspicker (talk) 19:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

SULS

I see you are a libertarian SULS alumnus. Did you ever have Professor Rounds? DickClarkMises (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Good to hear about the class with Prof. Rounds--I have Trusts with him in the fall. I was never able to find enough people to sign on as members of the libertarian group, but I managed to avoid that problem by becoming the president of the Federalist Society chapter. Since FedSoc bills itself as "Conservative/Libertarian" I guess we'll just focus on the latter at Suffolk. Mostly I just wanted the ability to reserve rooms in which to hold speaker events, so this will work just fine. DickClarkMises (talk) 22:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Nice image!

I love your image of the plaque marking Edgar Allan Poe's birthplace in Boston... it is much better than my version. I was wondering, however, why it wasn't uploaded to Wikimedia Commons (commons.wikimedia.org)? Media uploaded there can be utilized on all Wiki-projects, including other languages. Oh, and, if you feel like it, it might be worth cropping just a little bit off the left of the image to help center the plaque (but, hey, that's just my opinion). Keep up the good work here! --Midnightdreary (talk) 23:10, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Question on Clark Cook House

You recently created the article Clark Cook House — indicating that it was in Newport, Rhode Island and is on the NRHP. However, when I search NRIS on Newport, RI, it does not appear. Can you direct me to the information via the NRIS link in the article? Thanks. — ERcheck (talk) 16:18, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks like it's been removed from the National Register. I did a query by city and didn't find it, but when I queried by the reference number I found it. I had to recheck my copy of the database, where I found that it had the status "RN", meaning "removed from the National Register". The next question is, "why was it removed"? --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 19:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

What is the implication of "RN"? Is it no longer a "registered" site? If this is the case, why? — ERcheck (talk) 23:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank YOU!

Thank you for the creation of the article on Theatre-by-the-Sea. I've tried to create an article about it, but no no avail. Thanks so much!68.226.93.158 (talk) 23:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

NHLs in ME, RI, and perhaps MA

Hi Swampyank -- I know u created NRHP stub articles for many articles in RI, ME, and MA. I wonder if you could help, in a current focussed effort, to improve the NRHPs that are National Historic Landmarks, namely on List of NHLs in RI, List of NHLs in ME, List of NHLs in MA. Specifically, in a "Fourth of July, or bust" campaign, a bunch of us in wp:NRHP are trying to ensure that NHL designation date is included (with NHL summary webpage reference) in NRHP infoboxes for relevant articles. Also, I notice that you created some articles but did not add them to wp:NRHP, by putting the NRHP wikiproject, the state wikiproject, and reqphoto on their talk pages. Please know if you might be willing to help. I currently am working on another state, trying to stay ahead of a NHL-checking editor who is evaluating their quality, but we are getting to List of NHLs in ME soon! Cheers, doncram (talk) 04:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

windmills

Hey, i noticed u created articles for windmills, perhaps marching thru the list of red-links i had set up at List of windmills for the U.S. NRHP ones. I am flattered and pleased... and added my pic for one, the Iron Turbine Windmill, in AZ. cheers, doncram (talk) 17:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Fourth of July, or bust, Thanks!

		The Fourth of July, or bust, Barnstar
		I award you this Barnstar for your solid, witty, creative, supportive, learned, timely, cheerful, eloquent, and/or otherwise generally great contributions on U. S. National Historic Landmarks' articles. Yippee o yay, we pretty much met our goal of a well-started article for each of 2,442 NHLs by today! Thanks, and have a great Fourth of July! -- Doncram, 4 July 2008

Hey, thanks for your many contributions of, or in, articles on NHLs in ME, MA, RI ! You and we done good, with creating 2,442 NHL articles, at various stages of development, by today! Thanks! doncram (talk) 18:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Lapham Institute

Wow, it's REALLY shaping up. That's awesome. Well done, btw :). Aepoutre (talk) 17:49, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey there! I wanted to hear your thoughts: I'm requesting that Lapham Institute be moved to the current redirect page Smithville Seminary. "Smithville Seminary" was not only the institution's original name, but the name it held the longest, by far. It's also the name used by the National Register of Historic Places, which I know you've done a lot of work with, as well. The article content is already set up to use Smithville Seminary as its primary designation; all that's left is to swap the article names. I'd normally consider it uncontroversial, but I know that you've also worked on this article quite a bit and I'd prefer not to be unilateral about things, haha. --Aepoutre (talk) 03:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

NRHP Listings

Great job keeping up with the NRHP listings / templates. I have been concentrating on the photos I have in Bristol County, Mass., but I have other counties also. I will have a "to do" list for the photos I do not have.

Do you know if there is any way to research if NRHP listings have been deleted? There is one mill in Fall River, Davol Mill, which I swear was on the list several months ago, but it's not now. It really belongs there. --Marcbela (talk) 17:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

You can go here, enter each week, and search for "removed".--Appraiser (talk) 18:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! Swampyank (talk) 20:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I tagged the most recent article. Aren't there guidelines for public history in your state? Ottre (talk) 00:04, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• I have noticed that the website: Nationalregisterofhistoricplaces tends to have lisitings that do not appear in NPS.gov. Do you know if one is "more" correct than the other? Is it possible the nps database just isn't updated? It does not seem possible that so many listings were strickened from the register. --Marcbela (talk) 15:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Bristol County MA NRHPs

Funny how we always seem to be working on the same places at the same time! I am now pretty much done expanding New Bedford Historic District, and I want to thank you for saving me the effort of creating Central New Bedford Historic District, because I realized we needed separate articles with hatnotes distinguishing the two, and we have them now.

After some touchup on the New Bedford ones, I'll be uploading a few more MA and RI pics, mainly ones I didn't upload earlier that I took in April. I also, as you may have noticed, tried to tone down the blown highlights on your pic of John N. A. Griswold House; I hope now it looks a little better. Since we have the RI NHL list fully illustrated, I think I may be writing some introductory text and putting in refs soon so we can take it to peer review and then, hopefully, FLC.

BTW, Northbound and Southbound Stations already exists as Attleboro (MBTA station) ... the address is different, but it's the same two buildings (and one of the pics I'll be uploading). I think we could just leave the one you created as a redirect.

Also, I really think that we ought to have a separate list for at least Fall River's RHPs ... it has 110 out of 358 in the county, about 30 percent. New Bedford and Taunton also deserve strong consideration for that, too, and maybe Attleboro as well. I haven't counted the entries for the latter two. Daniel Case (talk) 21:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I know Taunton has over 100 entries too. --Marcbela (talk) 12:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Historic places

Hi thanks for your work on starting these places. However is there a way you could rethink using the generic template and create more specific ones by county e.g List of Registered Historic Places in Barnstable County, Massachusetts to connect article together within eahc county. This would be far more useful than the generic plate used in every article ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what you mean or how to do it. Swampyank (talk) 20:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Create a navigation template at the foot of article containing all the historic places within that county as featured in the list. So every article you access within a given area they are directly connected ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thats cool you're of French Huguenot, English, Scottish and Swedish heritage the same as me, although I also have Jewish ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:16, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll have to try to figure out how to create a navigation template and add one to the stubs I've created. Thanks for the advice. Swampyank (talk) 23:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I think Blofeld of SPECTRE is not aware that you are marching through a list or lists of NRHPs, and the list-articles provide a lot of that navigational functionality. Navboxes (Navigation templates) are used more in some other wikiprojects, like wp:ships, though there are some on NRHPs within wp:NRHP. Personally i don't really like them in NRHPs. I think the state- or county-wide list-articles on NRHPs serve the same purpose better, accomodating short descriptions and, especially, photos.

About your many new NRHP articles, though, why aren't you creating corresponding Talk pages, at the same time, adding the articles to the state wikiproject and to wp:NRHP? The Elkman generator output even gives you a perfectly usable, properly formed copy of the basic Talk page material, ready to copy and paste into the talk page. And the articles do not appear in the wikiproject articles count, until they are added to the wikiproject by the Talk page entry. If you don't do it for each article as you go through a given county or state list, can you at least go back and visit all the articles and paste in the same basic starter, adding to wikiprojects, when you get to the end of any given list? Cheers, doncram (talk) 21:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Right, I'd rather go back and add talk pages at a later date. It seems more efficient to do the two tasks separately rather than copying the talk page text over and over again for each article. Those few seconds can add up to extra hours wasted if thousands of talk pages are created at the same time as the articles. In the meantime, some editors are adding talk pages before I get to them. Swampyank (talk) 21:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

However, given that several of your new articles are being put up for speedy deletion, i think you should stop creating new articles and go back and create all these Talk pages now. And put in Talk pages right away with all new articles. In my view it is fair for editors on new page patrol to be disturbed by the flood of stubs, and to put them up for speedy deletion. The multiple speedy deletion notices should give you pause.

Your making more effort with the new articles, including adding them to the appropriate wikiprojects, would help. I also suggest your adding a standard comment in the new Talk page (or perhaps in the article proper) about the availability of NRHP nomination text and accompanying photos by request to the National Park Service. Something along those lines would alleviate other editors' legitimate concerns about these articles. I mused about this in discussion of the Article-for-deletion on one of your articles below. I will post about this at wt:NRHP, please continue there. doncram (talk) 17:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) Just to let you know, I've invested some time in getting set up to use wp:AWB for semi-automated editing, and have just now applied it to visit the Talk pages of all 174 NRHP stub articles in "Category:Barnstable County, Massachusetts Registered Historic Place stubs". I added them to wp:NRHP, added a reqphoto, and a bit more. It took me 70 minutes or so, working off the framework of the category. Only about 5-10 had wp:NRHP already. I asked for feedback at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Massachusetts and, after any discussion there, I will probably continue with the other counties in MA. This complements what you did stubbing just the articles, although there is some slippage relative to what you would have accomplished if you had done the talk pages as you went along or soon after. You probably processed through a few stub articles that already had photos and didn't need the reqphoto that i have now added (erroneously if there is already a good photo). And there are some articles which you started or processed that are no longer stubs or otherwise lack the Barnstable-NRHP-stub tag, and I would have missed any of those. There are 181 in the List of Registered Historic Places in Barnstable County, Massachusetts, and i processed 174, so i missed 7 and have no way to know which ones those are, and which could use some Talk page fixup. Anyhow, I think this is mostly addressing what I was focussing upon in our prior discussion. Any further comment or feedback at the wp:MA talkpage or to my page or at wp:NRHP would be welcomed. doncram (talk) 21:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Historic District stubs

I just wanted to let you know, I've noticed the work you're doing on the various Historic District stubs, and I'm impressed. We need more nose-to-the-grindstone editors like you! S. Dean Jameson 17:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

An -> a

You are creating articles using "an" where "a" should be used. --mboverload@ 20:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm going back with AWB to fix em =) --mboverload@ 20:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info...it seems like quite the debate about "a" versus "an"...although both usages are common now according to this site Swampyank (talk) 20:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh...I'll stop. hmmm --mboverload@ 20:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to change them if you think it is more correct...I don't know too much about the specific usage beyond what google tells me. Thanks for monitoring the edits. Swampyank (talk) 20:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm getting from my research [1] as well as users of the EnglishForums IRC channel that "a historic" is the more correct version. I just don't want to step on your toes or push my view of what is correct. --mboverload@ 21:05, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah, ok...I'll try to break my habit. Thanks! Swampyank (talk) 21:07, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I also went ahead and scanned Wikipedia for other articles with that in them. 6,077 articles to go... =) --mboverload@ 00:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Ouch! Swampyank (talk) 03:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. This is interesting. I always change them to "an historic" when I see them. I'm sure that's what I was taught. That's how it is worded in the 1966 National Historic Preservation act.[2] This probably dates me; I suspect it's akin to "alot" becoming a word.[3] But I'll try to remember to stop changing them since it is now common usage.--Appraiser (talk) 15:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Wait a sec on the article creation

Just a sec - not a problem or anything I might just have an idea for you. --mboverload@ 04:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

If you got a bot flag then your articles wouldn't show up in new page patrol. --mboverload@ 04:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Do you know how to get one? Swampyank (talk) 04:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Creating a bot and/or automatically generating stub articles for NRHP sites has been discussed previously at wt:NRHP. As i recall, there wasn't a lot of support in the past, but things could be different now. One difference is that the basic output from the Elkman NRHP generator has been improved in various ways, since then, such as it now provides for Talk pages with wikiprojects and reqphoto, etc. (which could be included in the automatic article creation). You could look up the old discussion(s) in the archives, and open a new discussion there. doncram (talk) 19:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom I added you too

After all my work out in RI and MA (hope you appreciated that), I saw you had started Major Jacob Hasbrouck Jr. House in my backyard, so to speak.

Well, I took a picture of it and just got done expanding the article (its nom form is 42 pages long! Lots of info). Take a look. I nominated it for DYK with you credited as well. Daniel Case (talk) 04:48, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Stub on Ocean Park, Maine

Thanks for making this stub. I had noticed a few months ago that nothing existed yet. While my family has a long history within this community, my own involvement is indirect at best; I have access to plenty of anecdotal information, but providing independent verification is a challenge. I'll see what I can do to expand this article. Bill Holt (talk) 19:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Rhode Island Historical Society

I don't believe Rhode Island Historical Society is on the NRHP or NHL, so I've removed those categories. Perhaps it is a new listing though. So let me know if I should add back one of the categories. Thanks.--Appraiser (talk) 19:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The Society's headquarter's Nelson Aldrich House and its main museum, the John Brown House are NHLs. I'm not sure if that would merit NHL categories in the article.Swampyank (talk) 17:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

The two sites both have NHL infoboxes and the NRHP template and they are linked from the Society's article. I guess since the Rhode Island Historical Society is really an organization rather than a "property", the categories should remain off.--Appraiser (talk) 18:35, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Coordinates for Providence Fruit and Warehouse Company Building

Can you go back to whatever source you used to determine the coordinates for the Providence Fruit and Produce Warehouse Company Building to check that you trascribed them correctly? The coordinates seem to point to the Nicholson File Company Mill Complex, which abuts Kinsley Avenue, rather than Providence Fruit, which is on Harris Avenue. I cannot find a usable source for the coordinates, or I would correct them myself. I have added a note to this effect on Talk:Providence Fruit and Produce Warehouse Company Building.Caldust55 (talk) 20:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I used Elkman's infobox generator. That's my sole source for the coordinates. Hope this helps.Swampyank (talk) 21:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The Elkman's infobox includes coordinates from the National Register Information System (NRIS), but these are often a bit off. There are some outright mistakes. But, most of them are a bit off, because the coordinates system that was used in US Geographical Service quadrant maps was a bit off, relative to the current highly accurate GPS system used by Google maps and all other modern map systems. So, if you know the coordinates are off, you should feel free to correct them. I use the Google map system to get coordinates. There are useful links and tips on getting coordinates in a few places in wikipedia; i noted some links in wp:NRHPMOS. In this case, I hope either of you will use Google plus these tips and revise the coordinates. doncram (talk) 00:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

your photos

Wonderful photos. The organization I work for is coming to Providence, RI for an annual meeting in April. Some of your shots would be perfect for our program (tours are going to Newport, Mystic Seaport, Blackstone River Valley, and many other places). How can I get permission to use these pictures? We would like to give you credit for them, so may we use your real name? Please email me at ncph @ iupui.edu. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iluv2dig (talk • contribs) 20:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Template request for NHL pages

Hi there! Great work with the historic places pages. Just wondering if you'd mind adding this template to the talk pages?

{{WikiProject National Register of Historic Places|class=}}

Thanks! -- Zanimum (talk) 18:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure no problem, I planned on doing them all at one after creating a few articles. Swampyank (talk) 18:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, good! I presumed you would be, but just in case, I thought I better suggest. Thanks! -- Zanimum (talk) 18:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Fort Ninigret

I, too, like stubs, for exactly the reasons you mention. And yes, I will likely be adding on to this article in the near future. Have been doing lot's of stuff related to New Netherland, and feel pretty well-versed, so it's always a pleasure to get a juicy new tidbit like this. Thanks. Djflem (talk) 04:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Fort Ninigret (and Dutch Island) are very interesting and their Dutch connection is a bit controversial. Good luck with your additions! Swampyank (talk) 04:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Counting error by someone

You and I got different totals for the NRHP sites in Middlesex County — my number was 1300, gained by piling all the listings into a list and putting a # before each one, so the total number would display. Did you use a different calculation device? Nyttend (talk) 05:43, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Swampyank, I saw in your note at Nyttend's talk page that you said Massachusetts "has the second most NRHPs of any state". I believe you, but I wonder what is your source for that, and/or if the source provides counts as of any date for other states. I just have not found any such source and would like to. Thanks! doncram (talk) 19:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Russell House, Andover

Thanks for adding that category with the date of construction. Have a good evening. MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Again, many thanks. You're a very active wikipedia contributor, I know, in the New England area. I hope we can collaborate on things in the future. Enjoy your evening. Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

List of RHPs in MA

Hi Swampyank. I'd like to work to improve the List of RHPs in MA, in part to respond to some indications of interest at some of its articles, and appreciate that you have done a lot on the state. I note there are list-articles which need Elkman-style tables, and there is wikiproject tagging to do, and so on. Perhaps we could coordinate about those and more, at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Massachusetts? doncram (talk) 16:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Category sorting

Just a reminder that the DEFAULTSORT markup uses a colon, not a pipe – for instance, {{DEFAULTSORT:Tower, Horatio, House}} not {{DEFAULTSORT|Tower, Horatio, House}}. —Paul A (talk) 01:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, that's my mistake, because my infobox generator was miscoded. I recently put in something that would apply the DEFAULTSORT keyword, but I made the error by using a pipe instead of a colon. I fixed that, but I suppose there are several thousand pages that need to be fixed now. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 02:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Picture replacements

Hi. Just to let you know, I've replaced three of your pictures with ones by me here. It's not that I consider myself a better photographer - far from it. However, yours were a little cut off and I think it should be a priority to show the whole of a building, right? Anyway, if you have any objections, do let me know. - Biruitorul ^Talk 00:43, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

That's fine. I have no objections to adding more photos. Swampyank (talk) 18:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Overusing Category:Architecture

You've added a bunch of great articles, but can you please stop using Category:Architecture in all of them? It's a parent category which should have an absolute minimum of articles directly under it, as the articles should be put in as specific a category as possible. Otherwise every single building in the world would be listed under "architecture". That aside, keep up the good work. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:20, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Picture confusion

Hello Swampyank.
The picture you used at the top of the Union Village article has a caption indicating it is Peleg Arnold's "house", yet the JPG is "Peleg Arnold tavern". Are they one and the same, or what? Best wishes, Hamamelis (talk) 14:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, they're the same. Swampyank (talk) 02:38, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Hamamelis (talk) 23:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Blazo-Leavitt House

Hello again. I noticed you'd contributed to this entry. I would like to go in and attempt to straighten out the grammar issues (considerable) from the previous poster's efforts and put it back in some semblance of readiblity, but I'm sure as soon as I do, she'll revert back. Hmmm... It gets discouraging with some of these entries, where one gets users who don't reply to messages left on their pages and who simply want to undo what's done. Ah well, I guess I'll try to figure a way around it. Just wanted to give you a heads-up on it. Thanks for your previous help. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

St. Paul's Episcopal Church

Swampyank,

I would appreciate it if you stop deleting my post about St. Paul's Episcopal Church. It is actually older than a few of the buildings listed on the page. It was built in 1736 in Edenton, which was then the capital of North Carolina. If you do not believe me, look it up yourself.

Your addition looked like vandalism on the page because of the lack of formatting and chronology. Also, the church doesn't seem like the oldest building of its kind in the state, so it probably doesn't belong on this list in my opinion. Swampyank (talk) 19:44, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

NHRP

Re:Methuen, thanks. It is my intention of photographing those locations and adding more data to each WP entry. I think many of them are now unrecognizable, and it I am not mistaken several are gone. I know for certain there was a court case involving the demise of the house on Broadway. EraserGirl (talk) 19:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Question. I am trying to figure out what to do with the list of NRHP from Methuen, I didn't realize there was so many, and created a list in the middle of the Methuen article. Now that I see how many there are, I need to strip them off to their own subpage. Can you point out the standard formatting for this type of page? would it be a table like the County Lists? I don't want to do all that formatting wrong the 1st time. EraserGirl (talk) 03:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi !

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Celia Thaxter

Hey, nice photo of the Thaxter house in Watertown. That sort of thing really perks up an article. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 07:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:MPS

Do you ever work with Multiple Property Submissions? I've just created a new directory page, WP:MPS, where these can be listed and more information filled in. If you want to edit there, please consider the second paragraph of the text at top. Nyttend (talk) 21:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with MPS. Swampyank (talk) 17:14, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

List of the oldest buildings in Connecticut

I had to remove Loomis House from list because it's a redlink. You can add it back once you've created a page for it. I checked NRHP listings and couldn't find one for it, otherwise, I would have created a page from there. BTW, I played sports against Loomis Chafee, beautiful house/campus. Tomticker5 (talk) 12:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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merged RI village and historic district articles

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King's Chapel

Nice additions to that list of burials, some eminent Puritan divines. MarmadukePercy (talk) 10:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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NRHP construction dates

Greetings. A friend of mine lives in the Thomas Cook House. After I pointed him to the Wikipedia article he informed me that it was incorrect: The article claims it was constructed in 1850 but the house was constructed prior to that. The house existed at the 1850 census but the actual construction date is not known. I'm wondering if this may be a systematic error in the creation of these articles, i.e. a documented date being taken as a construction date. --Gmaxwell (talk) 18:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It is true that not all of the NRHP dates are exactly accurate to the year. Some of the dates occur when a significant event or renovation took place in the house's history. Other houses are difficult to date using records or dendochronology, so the build dates are often approximate, but for the vast majority of houses the contruction date is approximately accurate, but of course open to editing for those with further information. Hopefully this helps, and feel free to change any of my edits. Maybe it would be better to phrase it "built on or before" the NRHP date as a stub starting point. Swampyank (talk) 18:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes… I was thinking perhaps the pages should say "on or before". Is this something that would be acceptable applied in bulk to all of the pages like this which are still in their initial stubish form? --Gmaxwell (talk) 23:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Brookwood Farm

Thanks for your kind words. Let me praise your attitude toward stubs -- "Despite receiving several complaints about my brief NRHP stubs, I believe minimal stubs are better than nothing at all. The sooner the stubs are up, the sooner everyone can add to them. Feel free to drop me a message on the the talk page!" I agree entirely and have been stubbing out Maine Lighthouses along the same lines, thinking that creating a new article (particularly with the two infoboxes required for NRHP lighthouses) could intimidate some people. However, since I live next to Brookwood Farm, I decided to go a little farther than I usually go when adding photos. . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Trinity Church in Holderness, New Hampshire

Hi Swampyank - You are doing an excellent job assembling articles on all these NRHP locations; thanks a lot! Could you take a look at Trinity Church (Holderness, New Hampshire)? It looks like the info you placed in that article actually was for Trinity Church (Cornish, New Hampshire). I corrected the coordinates and town name in the text and infobox, but I don't have the correct info for the architect and dates. Would you mind fixing those? Thanks again! --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

The church is probably closer to the town center of Plymouth than it is to the center of Holderness, but it's within the Holderness town limits. Also, I found another one for you. County Farm Bridge (Wilton, New Hampshire) has data that belongs in County Farm Bridge (Dover, New Hampshire). Same problem with identical names but different towns. I could probably just move the article to the Dover name, but I don't want to mess up your workflow. Have a good one, --Ken Gallager (talk) 18:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I think they're fixed, but feel free to correct or move any of my errors. Swampyank (talk) 04:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

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Articles

If you don't mind me asking, how do you create articles so quickly?  Btilm  04:13, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I just use the Elkman infobox generator and copy and paste text. Thanks for the barnstar. Swampyank (talk) 04:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Your new articles don't appear to have county categories; would you be willing to add them on all future articles? Nyttend (talk) 15:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I just use the Elkman info. I could add quite a bit more per article, but it is probably easiest if they're added to the generator. Swampyank (talk) 17:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll look into adding county categories into the infobox generator. Most of the time, they'll be straightforward, but some of them (like parishes in Louisiana or independent cities in Virginia) might make things tricky. Also, I'm looking at classifying articles into categories based on their historic functions, like houses for anything listed as a single dwelling, and so forth. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 17:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciate it. Swampyank (talk) 17:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. When you make a change to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to Cuisine of New England. Doing so helps everyone to understand the intention of your edit and is especially useful when reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. BMRR (talk) 20:31, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'll try to avoid being lazy. Swampyank (talk) 22:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, again

I've said this before, but User:Sswonk and I are almost done with illustrating all of the NRHP sites in Quincy. I've just finished adding images to all of the articles for which I took them, and having your stub has made it a great deal faster. . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 17:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Well done, Swampyank!

Your dedication to local history is admirable. The photos are great, too. :) BeantownTexas (talk) 23:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Ellen Swallow Richards Residence

Is there any particular reason you created this article with this name? If not, I'm going to have it moved to Ellen Swallow Richards House as

• that's the NRHP name
• "house" is more usual than "residence" for such.

. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 14:07, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

No objections. Swampyank (talk) 15:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

RFC at my talk page

In an effort to create a navbox for urban parkways in the Boston metro area, I have come to the realization that what is really needed is something that ties together the entire system first envisioned by Charles Eliot in the late nineteenth century. I feel that this should be a cooperative effort, probably created as a subproject of WP:MASS. However, initially I am seeking comments and/or assistance from several editors that have contributed in various ways to elements of the scope of such a project. This note is being posted to the user pages of Beland, CaribDigita, Denimadept, EraserGirl, Grk1011, Hertz1888, Jameslwoodward, Markles, NE2, Polaron and Swampyank. I apologize in advance to anyone who wishes to comment that I have left off of the list of users, as I may have unintentionally forgotten them and others. Please feel free to comment on my talk page under the heading I have created, linked here. Thanks – Sswonk (talk) 05:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Eureka Schoolhouse

Greetings - Just wondering what kind of image you were looking for of the Eureka Schoolhouse as I'm back in the area for a few days. Cheers H0n0r (talk) 16:19, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Newport Hospital

Thank you so much for posting the historical postcard/photograph of Newport Hospital taken from the southwest at the turn of the century. Would you please post more Newport Hospital photographs if you have them or point me in the right direction to find them? Again...thank you. Bradfordaugust (talk) 23:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Providence Libraries

Hi, I work for the Providence Community Library (http://www.provcomlib.org). We're a new organization that took over management of the nine former PPL branches on July 1st, 2009. I ran across your articles on Rochambeau, Smith Hill, South Providence and Wanskuck today. Very nice. I tried to update them to reflect their new status (switched out "Public" for "Community" removed references to "branches" as we no longer call them that (long story), and added photos for Rochambeau, South Providence and Smith Hill. Hope you don't mind. Thanks for starting these in the first place! If at all possible - could the titles be renamed to reflect the fact that these libraries are now part of the "Providence Community Library" and not the "Providence Public Library"? I don't have the appropriate level of access to do that yet. Thanks again! Ddvorchak (talk) 22:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Providence Libraries

The new names are pretty simple. It'd just be "Rochambeau Library - Providence Community Library", etc. Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddvorchak (talk • contribs) 22:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Myles Standish Burying Ground

You're quite welcome for the edits. Thanks for your kind message. I'm actually hoping to expand this article in the near future. It's on my list... Historical Perspective (talk) 01:46, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

nrhp docs

Hi Swampyank, i notice you active on the RI nrhp articles that happen to be on my watchlist from time to time. I wonder if you are aware that NRHP documents are now available on-line for almost all of CT, and I've been told they've all been scanned and are nearly on-line for RI, too. I wonder if you'd be willing to help improve some of the CT articles now, in particular by adding the NRHP doc to existing articles. As you know there has been running contention about NRHP HDs in CT, but (knock on wood) that seems to have settled down mostly, and in fact I believe that all of Fairfield County is settled. I've been adding NRHP docs to many articles as part of the process of bringing forward information, in a process coordinated now at a Talk subpage of Acroterion's. Anyhow, it is always helpful to add NRHP documents to NRHP articles, and I hope you might consider chipping in for List of RHPs in Fairfield articles and more. There's a related note by me at Talk:List of RHPs in CT#NRHP docs now available online for Connecticut. Cheers, doncram (talk) 19:54, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. Yes, I'd like to help add the NRHP doc to the articles. Unfortunately, I've been having some problems with PDFs on my computer though, so it might take me a while to be able to do so. Swampyank (talk) 20:27, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually i just noticed that you worked on National Register of Historic Places listings in Windham County, Connecticut for a while in October. I was off-wiki for a while and wasn't particularly aware that you had. I see something else needed for those is to return and add Talk page info, so there are reqphotos on the articles that don't have pics, and so that they are included in appropriate wikiprojs (usually just NRHP and Connecticut, but also can be Trains, Bridges, or other). That would be a help, not requiring PDF reading.  :) I'm just generally interested in seeing the CT stuff move along to a better point. I do think you did very well with RI. --doncram (talk) 22:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it would be good to see an improvement in the Connecticut NRHP breadth and depth. I'll look around and see if I can add some more.Swampyank (talk) 23:20, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

St. Peter's Presbyterian Church

Thanks. Yeah, I saw you had created that one a long time ago. I was going to drop you a note. Any personal connection to this one, like you had to the Major Hasbrouck House in New Paltz? Daniel Case (talk) 04:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, as you probably learned from the article Spencertown, like much of that region of New York, was largely settled by expatriate New Englanders (usually the second and third sons of successful farmers or merchants, who weren't going to inherit them but were often just as good at those fields as their older brothers) first right after the French and Indian War made it safe and then in earnest after the Revolution. They brought a lot of their building traditions with them, including those meetinghouses. Daniel Case (talk) 04:48, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Bradford College

Greetings. I have reverted your edit to Bradford College. It is absolutely impossible for John Taylor Jones to have been an alum. Until 1970, Bradford College was a women's only school.THD3 (talk) 19:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

OOPS. Nevermind. I forgot it was Bradford Academy during the 19th Century. I should have known better, I went there (but not during the 19th Century). I have reinstated Jones' name.THD3 (talk) 19:31, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Episcopal Churches in Maine

Thanks for the clean-up -- I caught it about the same time you did. Next time, just drop me a note -- "Hey, doofus, you goofed," or words to that effect. No reason you should be cleaning up my multiple mistakes. . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 21:15, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

NRHP Notability

I would just like to apologize for my edit[4] to Wellesley Town Hall. I did not realize that NRHP sites automatically are notible. Sorry any inconvenience I may have caused you.

Also, it's nice to see another New Englander editing Wikipedia after midnight. Allanlw 05:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

St. Michael's Church, New York City

I was making some additions to an article you created: St. Michael's Church (New York, New York) when I discovered an older article St. Michael's Church, New York City. Do you know how to merge articles?AMuseo (talk) 14:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Spare yourself some work?

Just wanted to let you know — you may want to spare yourself some work by not creating articles for churches in the Land of the Cross-Tipped Churches. Most of my recent on-wiki work has been creating DYK-size articles on these churches, so there should soon be articles on all of them even if you don't do anything. For examples, see my article on St. Henry's Church that I wrote last month, or the greatly expanded Holy Rosary Church article that I completely rewrote tonight. Of course, I'm not trying to tell you to stop if you don't want to; I just don't want you to work on something if you'd rather not expend the effort. Nyttend (talk) 03:43, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll hold off. Swampyank (talk) 04:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

First Presbyterian Church (Glasgow, Kentucky)

The location of the church does not seem to match the title. The text seems to point to a church in Lexington, Kentucky, not Glasgow (my birthplace). What gives? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 04:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I'll fix it. Sorry about that. Swampyank (talk) 04:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

blocks

I created a category for the 'block' articles on NHRP in Massachusetts. Another editor objects to my category (and to the block articles themseles, blaming you for them/their names). Is there a more generic name for a category collecting these articles? Thanks Hmains (talk) 19:07, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I believe Hmains is referring to my comments at User talk:Hmains#Categorization. I'm inclined to nominate Category:Blocks on the National Register of Historic Places in Massachusetts for merger into Category:Buildings and structures on the National Register of Historic Places in Massachusetts. --Orlady (talk) 04:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Taverns

I created a drinking establishment category for the 'tavern' articles on NHRP in Massachusetts. Another editor objects to my category saying taverns are not drinking establishments. What is a better generic category name? Maybe 'hotels' to cover these and other articles. Hmains (talk) 19:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

There's a CfD discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 April 4#Category:Drinking establishments on the National Register of Historic Places in Massachusetts. --Orlady (talk) 04:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Need your opinion

I'm having a bit of a discussion with another editor in Talk:History of education in the United States. I would appreciate having your opinion. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 11:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Chadwick Square Diner

Interesting new paragraph from an IP user. Entirely unreferenced. I'm torn between leaving it, as it's probably right and quadruples the size of a stub and deleting it on the grounds that we do like to have refs. I note you put it in the right place -- did you have any of the same thoughts? . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 21:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly. A reference would certainly help. Feel free to delete it if you'd like. Swampyank (talk) 23:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Noyes.jpg

Hi Swampyank. Please add a license to File:Noyes.jpg. I'm guessing it's public domain. Regards, Theleftorium ^(talk) 10:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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Oldest Bldgs in NJ

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St. Michael's Protestant Episcopal Church, Parish House and Rectory

Do you have any objection to shortening the article name St. Michael's Protestant Episcopal Church, Parish House and Rectory (which you originated) to St. Michael's Episcopal Church (Birdsboro, Pennsylvania)? This was suggested by ​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship}, and I agree with him. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 12:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

No, that's fine with me. No objections. Swampyank (talk) 12:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

House of C.S. Peirce

Hello,

You have a photo of the birthplace of C.S. Peirce posted on the wiki page for him. What is the address of that house in Cambridge?

Gardlv2 (talk) 20:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC) Devin

I don't specifically remember taking that picture, but I took it on a day when I walked from the Harvard T stop to the Mount Auburn Cemetery on Mt. Auburn Street. So it was somewhere in approximately between those two places, but certainly in area immediately surrounding Harvard Square. I'll take another look sometime and see if I can find a more precise location. Swampyank (talk)

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Okay then. Thanks for all your help! There are only 4 churches whose denominations I am not sure of. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 02:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

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List of the oldest buildings in Pennsylvania

I like the List of the oldest buildings in Pennsylvania‎ that you have created. I added something about Elfreth's Alley to the talk page, but I am fairly sure there are other quite old buildings in Philadelphia and nearby which should be on this list. For example, there are several buildings in Independence National Historical Park older than 1776. Consider:

• American Philosophical Society Hall
• Carpenters' Hall, home of the country's oldest extant trade guild.
• Christ Church
• Congress Hall, U.S. Congress met here for ten years
• Deshler-Morris House
• Old City Hall, where the Supreme Court met.
• Philosophical Hall of the American Philosophical Society

User:Smallbones and I are among the editors adding to the early Philadelphia buildings, especially photographs on Wikimedia Commons.--DThomsen8 (talk) 12:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Discrepancy between title and content of Maxwell E. Perkins House

Hi, thanks for creating the page, but could you change it so that the content refers to the title? I think you've got the Maxwell Perkins House (which is in New Canaan, Connecticut) mixed up with another place in Norwich, Connecticut, at the other end of the state. At some point I'd like to expand the Maxwell article. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 03:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Done. Swampyank (talk) 11:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! -- JohnWBarber (talk) 02:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Early RI Biograhies

Hi, I'm just beginning to get familiar with some of your articles, and have been impressed with the breadth and depth of your work! I've been doing some work on two early RI biographical articles on William Arnold (settler) and Benedict Arnold (governor). How do I get these included in the Rhode Island portal? Also, I'm not sure why the articles are not showing up on the lists to which they've supposedly been tagged. Can you help with this? I'm a beginner wikipedian. Many thanks.Sarnold17 (talk) 08:38, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback and help with portals. I had assumed that this is something that some editor-at-large took care of, but with your help I was able to include the portal references on the discussion pages.Sarnold17 (talk) 22:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Union Meetinghouse (East Montpelier, Vermont)

Hi, you created the article Union Meetinghouse (East Montpelier, Vermont), but the information seems to be about a different church in Ferrisburgh. I can't link to the references you cited. Where is this church located? I found an article about a historic church in East Montepelier, so I wanted to check. http://www.central-vt.com/visit/nr/cv33.htm Thanks. Jllm06 (talk) 12:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Westerly Burial Ground

Thank you for working on the Westerly article. I wanted to fix the article title, but my research so far suggests that "Westerly Burial Ground" may be as correct as "Westerly Burying Ground", the term used at the physical site. (Can you construct a redirect so that both phrases go to the one article?) There are some hints that the bare term "Westerly" may have been used. There are no true historic markers at the site, only modern-times markers (undated!). We need to get pictures of the two entrance plaques into the article. I wanted to expand the stub by copying the material from the West Roxbury article, but I am going to work on fleshing that out first. All of the Boston cemetery articles need improvement, and better integration. It would be nice to have an article on the Boston Historic Burying Grounds Initiative to tie them all together. But the website material seems to be stubby/dysfunctional, and I'm not sure the HBGI is still active -- will try to contact city hall and maybe local history society... (Thank you for starting stub articles -- as a diligent anon contributor, my hands are tied when there is no appropriate article to add material to.) I was very frustrated by the NRHP website database -- I could find no way to get a URL linking to their Westerly page! And their actual detailed underlying contents are not online yet... -71.174.187.78 (talk) 22:45, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

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List of cemeteries in Boston, Massachusetts

Thank you for your work on List of cemeteries in Boston, Massachusetts! However, it claims to be in alphabetical order, but is not... maybe founding-date order? I wasn't sure where to put my addition, just tacked it on at the end.

I think the List of cemeteries in the United States article should be broken up into fifty articles -- you seem pretty bold... -71.174.187.78 (talk) 22:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your work on the baptism article

Thanks for your support. It is clear that those two have had their way with this article too long, and are refusing to use WP:RS, simply inserting their POV. I will keep on revising this article, and will go to arbitration if necessary.--Taiwan boi (talk) 15:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad someone else is interested in fixing the article. It is really tough to defend the normative viewpoint when people have a strong agenda. Thank you for be willing to revise or go to arbitration. Swampyank (talk) 16:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm interested in your history of experiences with Lima/Esoglou. I have discovered others who have lengthy experiences with him as an obstructive and POV editor, and would like to know what your experiences have been. I can see for myself that you've found it difficult to work with him.--Taiwan boi (talk) 04:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. I may ask you to supply some diffs if I take this to RfC.--Taiwan boi (talk) 06:38, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok Swampyank (talk) 06:39, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Since you've been involved in the "Immersion baptism" article, you may wish to comment on the current dispute I have with Esoglou over the 'Archaeological evidence' section. Compare my edit here, with his edit here. I would appreciate your comments on the Talk page.--Taiwan boi (talk) 12:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Emory Lindquist

Hi! Oxford College shouldn't be unknown.
It isn't. Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pdfpdf/List_of_Rhodes_Scholars/USA-K-L
Emory Lindquist USA Kansas Jesus College 1930
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Resolved? Pdfpdf (talk) 11:53, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. Swampyank (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

St. James Church, Elmhurst

The nomination form is surely a copyright violation? Corvus cornix_talk 04:47, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I didn't put it there, but was going to try to glean/cite some information from it before deleting it. I don't know if its worth the work though. Swampyank (talk) 04:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

It would be useful to add more information from, but it would need reliable sources. What is the copyright status of things like that? If it's PD, it could probably be put into Wikisource and linked to. Corvus cornix_talk 04:52, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure although I believe it is a form submitted to the Federal Government, so probably in the PD but I'm not certain.Swampyank (talk) 04:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

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How do I contact you by email?--Taiwan boi (talk) 10:00, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Some editors have been able to email me somehow through Wikipedia, so I thought you might be able to do that as well. I'm loathe to put my email address up here, as it will certainly be harvested and distributed who knows where. Is there another way to do this?--Taiwan boi (talk) 07:21, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

You can contact me by email through the Toolbox on my user page. Please email me, I have a question for you. Thanks.--Taiwan boi (talk) 04:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

I didn't see the email function in your toolbar, but I activated it in mine, so feel free to email me. Swampyank (talk) 06:27, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

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Haven brothers

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Your photo of Haven Brothers would be helpful in an upcoming article on Providence. If we use it, how would you like the credit line to read? 208.65.144.247 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:19, 9 December 2010 (UTC).

Leave me an email address, and I can contact you with further information. Swampyank (talk) 00:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Request permission to use a photo

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Thanks, Judy

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starter NRHP articles

Hey i notice u online by ur recent edit to Slatersville, Rhode Island, somehow on my watchlist. I wonder if u might be willing to help start missing NRHP articles in Connecticut, where a lot has been done since u were most active there. NRHP articles for all of Tolland and Windham counties have been started. I'm occasionally plugging away at Middlesex County now. I have programmed an alternative to the Elkman generator which provides minimal draft articles (cut-and-paste ready, but hoping for some additional editing) at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Middlesex County, Connecticut/drafts. Is there any way i could interest u in helping start these? Or in an different county? Cheers, --Doncram (talk) 05:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

RfC

Thanks for your contribution, much appreciated.--Taiwan boi (talk) 02:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

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I did receive one email to which I responded by email. Did not receive a second that I am aware of. Swampyank (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Years

I understand your concerns, but if a category is for a specific year, then then the facts need to support that. Having said that, going through this one tree has caused me to have concerns about how we categorize by years. I have been considering an RfC about this. My thoughts are that we do away with decade categories in most cases. The exception being decades in specific areas where they have meaning. By creating these we just add navigation overhead within the category structure. By making the lowest grouping at the century level, you get a reasonable number of entries on each page and navigation is simple. Within the lower level categories, a template can be used to navigate to the surrounding years. If consensus was that this type of approach leads to no needing century categories but to millennium ones I could live with that.

As to the cases of articles without a specific year. At some point they need to be categorized. The question is where? If you take something that is about 1838-1842 if could be in two decades. So it probably should be placed directly into a 19th century category as the fail safe. It would not be correct to list it in two decade categories and listing it in only one could be misleading if in fact the wrong one was selected.

As I have been going though this, I have also found a substantial number of errors. Between all of this, my opinions on how this should be structured has changed.

I'll also add that in the area of buildings, the reconstructions is problematic. How significant and notable does this need to be to deserve a listing in a category? If it stays in the architecture category, how is it categorized since the building may already be completed. So in the end a lot of questions. For now I probably need to drop the unclear dates into the century category to keep them somewhere. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, I just removed the category from another one. There are two estimates for when the building was finished. They are 80 years apart in two different centuries! Vegaswikian (talk) 00:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, if it says in, I'm taking it to mean that it was built in that year since in leaves no ambiguity. Doing something so that you can categorize an article in a specific year is not correct if we don't have a source to support it. This is why many academicians think poorly of Wikipedia. By removing unsupported information, the quality of the wiki is improved. Now, if the register says it was built in a specific year, then that could be included in the article text and cited. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:18, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ransom Dunn

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Long Cane

Swampyankee - nice article on Long Cain Church. Do you have a connection there? It's quite obscure IMO. Tiptopper (talk)

Thanks, no particular connection. I was just adding articles on churches listed on the NRHP. Feel free to add to it if you have further knowledge about the subject. Swampyank (talk) 13:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Article on John Coggeshall

Hi Swampyank. I've been working on Rhode Island's colonial governors, and see that you have written many of the stubs. I've completed the stubs on all the colonial governors, and am now in the process of writing articles. I've just finished beefing up John Coggeshall, and would like you to take a look at it while it's still in my sandbox. It can be found at User:Sarnold17/sandbox. There are three or four places where I don't have a reference for the material given, and since you did some work on the article, I'm asking you to see if you have any of these references. Also, I can't seem to find the "citation needed" tag that wikipedians use--I've run across these many times, but now that I'm looking for it, I can't seem to find it. Anyway, before I go public with this version of the article, I'd like to elicit your comments first. Many thanks!Sarnold17 (talk) 18:34, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I've done some googling, but haven't found the specific sources mentioned in the article. I'll keep looking.Sarnold17 (talk) 20:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations

Thank you for your contributions to articles on Rhode Island history, especially the colonial period and its governors (both colonial and independent American). A senior editor with an apparent bias against northern Baptists appears to be on a campaign to vandalize the article by eliminating verifiably accurate contributions to the improvement of the article made by other hardworking editors who have actual knowledge of the state and the historical period. You may be interested in reviewing the recently deleted sections of the article and/or the recent attempt by the same editor to delete the entire British America article. One point worth considering is that Rhode Island is a small state with not to many allies and experts knowledgeable in its history. That might also explain why this article was in need of improvement from the beginning. It's surprising that an editor would work so hard to degrade the condition of an article and, frankly, it's frustrating to others who donate their time and knowledge to the cause of expanding knowledge of the state and its history. Thanks again for all your hard work.

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Hello

Hello. In order to be transparent, I figured I would message you. I work in the Interpretive Projects department at the Connecticut Historical Society. I hope to improve articles relating to Connecticut history as well as improving the Connecticut Historical Society's page with appropriate use of WP:COI, WP:V, WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, and WP:RS.

In order to provide better encyclopedic articles, please call me out if you think I am straying from any guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crofut (talk • contribs) 16:05, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Guidelines for NRHP private residence?

Hello Swampyank! I was in RI last week, and had a chat with an old friend of mine who lives in the Edward Searle House in Oaklawn. I would eventually like to update the wiki stub on that property, and include a current picture. Is it OK to include current photos of private residences with the owners approval? I ask, because most of the historic homes that are private seem to have old photos attached. To what extent do we ensure privacy on privately owned historic properties? I appreciate any guidance you can offer. Best regards.Sarnold17 (talk) 12:11, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback on my talk page. I was just concerned about privacy issues, but I guess it's OK to include a photo of a private residence in a wiki article.Sarnold17 (talk) 15:58, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

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Roger Williams

Swampyank,

Talons06 here. I see on your page that you are a direct descedant of Roger Williams, as I am also.
I am in need of info for my research of our family tree. Please contact me on my Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/Waterbug01#!/ I'll give you my email address.
Roger is my 9x Great grandfather.

Thanks in Advance.Talons06 (talk) 19:00, 22 October 2011 (UTC) Talons06 --Talons06 (talk) 19:00, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

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List of oldest buildings

I've reverted you there. I'm not sure you can call the Great Wall of China a building, but in any case Mutianyu wasn't built in 500 BC and the photo you added is of the rebuilt wall and that was dated to around 1569. I was there last spring, by the way, it's magnificent. Dougweller (talk) 06:58, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

NRHP articles you're creating

It would be helpful if you could tag all of these NRHP stubs as low importance as you create them. I figured the nearly 40 articles that I just tagged would have shown up on your watchlist, but I guess not. You still seem to be creating them without the tag. Normally articles would need to be subjected to our importance guidelines, but since these have just about zero information on them, the precedent is to tag them low importance, and if future information comes out (e.g. a local register listing or high local significance) the importance can be upped. Thank you!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for completely ignoring this.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 18:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for that. I didn't see that you had created Talk:Green City Presbyterian Church with the low importance tag after having seen my edits.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 18:38, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Is it absolutely necessary to create a small one-sentence stub for every single church in the country? There is no deadline. Is there a reason for creating all of these right now?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• Why not? Creating stubs of notable structures builds the web, creates a beginning for newcomers to create more content, and reduces redlinks. Dudemanfellabra: you've been equally rude to me on this exact issue, so knock it off.--GrapedApe (talk) 03:35, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, friend

A Roger Williams descendent -- impressive! Anyway, I was goofing around outside my field a little this evening and came across a short bio bit on Canonicus, a Narragansett tribal leader from the American colonial period. Anyway, I notice you uploaded the "mark" of Canonicus as a graphic -- but it was only a 2 kb file and looks like a pixellated blur at a realistic size. I note that he signed with a bow and arrow, which seems significant. I was wondering whether you could point me to where you found that graphic so that I can put it up at a higher resolution. Thanks! Carrite (talk) 05:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't recall because it was several years ago. A quick search on google, google books and google images hadn't led me back to the source either unfortunately. Swampyank (talk) 18:57, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Catholic Belltower

FM? Is this Federated States of Micronesia? Just trying to work out what the template should be on the talk page.--Traveler100 (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Exactly, thanks. Swampyank (talk) 14:49, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Swampyank; I was happy to see your added material on Gideon Cornell. I had no intention of working on him yet, but since he was originally under the wrong name in wikipedia (Gideon "Cowell") I felt I needed to fix this. As I was working on the Stephen Hopkins article, I felt I needed to sort out all the times that Hopkins served as the RI Chief Justice, so I dug into Smith's RI Civil List, etc., and doing that decided to put together the List of Chief Justices of the Rhode Island Supreme Court. Unfortunately, Smith ends at 1800, and his 1800-1850 book does not appear to be online. After 1850, I don't know where to look for the later justices. Since you are a lawyer, I was wondering if you were aware of any available resources that could be used to expand the list of RI Chief Justices. The state website does Attorneys General, but is mute on the Chief Justices. Thanks.Sarnold17 (talk) 08:53, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Spencer Fields?

Hi again. You were the creator of the List of lieutenant governors of Rhode Island. You have Spencer Fields as a very short term deputy governor in 1751. Where did his name come from? It is not in the official state list, and I cannot find him anywhere on the web. Thanks for any insights.Sarnold17 (talk) 22:00, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Permission to publish your perfect photo

Dear Swampy Yank,

You have have a photo of the gate of the Touro Cemetery posted at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Touro_Cemetery_in_Newport,_RI,_USA.jpg

i would like to publish it in an article in a scholarly Journal. On Egyptian revival architecture.

I understand that the image is free use, but I would be deeply grateful if you could send me a jpg by email, which i think will produce a sharper image.

I believe that I have just registered this account in a manner that will allow you to send it to me by email.

I would be deeply grateful

If you would like a photo credit, I can certainly publish one with the photo.. Or some other acknowledgement I can certainly arrange that. Or could, if I knew how to communicate directly. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhotoRightsNeeded (talk • contribs) 17:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Kudos for the RI Chief Justices

Where did you find the remaining RI Chief Justices? I was hoping you'd be able to dig them up; many many thanks! Looks like you were up all night surfing the web. Pretty soon you'll have a complete article on Gideon Cornell. I will likely do one on his immigrant ancestor, Thomas Cornell, in a few weeks/months, to include his son who was accused, and executed, for matricide. The first Thomas Cornell was in New Netherland with Anne Hutchinson, and I'm wondering if some of his family perished during the Indian massacre in which most of the Hutchinson family perished. Later...Sarnold17 (talk) 14:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Pembroke Academy

I have a photo of Pembroke Academy circa 1864 from family files. Would appreciate assistance in uploading to Pembroke Academy stub. Mselegans (talk) 16:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)mselegans

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Pembroke Academy

Swampyank,

Thanks for your offer to post my picture of Pembroke Academy. I cannot figure out how to email you, as you suggested. I do not see a button for that purpose, either on your "user page" or your "talk page" thanksMselegans (talk) 03:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)mselegans

Swampyank,

Still want to send you the picture of Pembroke Academy circa 1864 -- your toolbox does not seem to have an "email this user" option. Please clarify. Thanks for your help. Mselegans (talk) 05:33, 19 September 2012 (UTC) Mselegans

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Hi Swampyank! I recently voiced a complaint about the new tagging of RI and other state articles under the WikiProject United States, and have gotten into a discussion about it. You are the only editor I know who is active on the Rhode Island project, so would you mind taking a few minutes to look at the discussion and give me your thoughts. I need to know if I'm barking up the wrong tree. The discussion is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States#What is going on here?. Many thanks!Sarnold17 (talk) 15:06, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Gideon Cornell House

NRHP plaque for Gideon Cornell house

Hi again, Swampyank. First, I just let the above issue die; don't think there's enough support for another change. Second, the Gideon Cornell house has a NRHP plaque on the outside, but there is no article for it. I think you created most of the other RI NRHP articles, so wonder if you want to add another for this property. My wife and I have been visiting RI cemeteries for a few days, but stopped to get photos of a few homes as well. I added a photo of Philip Sherman's house to his article, but it is not a registered house; I think I'll add it to the oldest houses in RI article. We talked to the owners, and they say the house was started in 1670 based on their paper trail of previous owners. I want to add another house to the old houses article. My family owned a 1685 house in Frenchtown, and I have some photos of it. The property was commandeered by the US Navy in 1942, and they tore down the house. The property, and old family cemetery, are now on Camp Fogarty, along Route 2.Sarnold17 (talk) 12:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Here's an image of the plaque on the house. Can you tell from the plaque whether it deals with a group of properties or just the single property? I know the plaque on the Stephen Hopkins house in Providence is different, and has more information on it.Sarnold17 (talk) 09:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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Stephen Northup

Hi again, Swampyank; I just finished doing a short article on Stephen Northup. It was tough, as there are very few sources on him, and even fewer sources on the Stephen Northup house.

I would like to change the title on the article Stephen Northrup House to Stephen Northup House to correct a very annoying error to those of us who descend from Stephen Northup. Even though the NRHP got the name wrong, I don't think we need to keep the error alive. Therefore, if I have your approval, I will plan to change the name of the article, and add a redirect from the existing name. Later...Sarnold17 (talk) 17:31, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for changing the name of the article; now I won't get annoyed every time I go to it. I ended up finding more material on Northup than expected. The old Rhode Island Genealogical Register that was around for 10 or 15 years had an article with some good material. Still nothing on the house, though, except for the two sources I quoted in the article.Sarnold17 (talk) 01:44, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Ways to improve Hammock House

Hi, I'm Olowe2011. Swampyank, thanks for creating Hammock House!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. This page is interesting, However I would advise further information and linking it with the state's portal. Otherwise good work. If you would like further assistance don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. —Preceding undated comment added 14:37, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, Your article on the Woonsocket and Pascoag Railroad is interesting. I think a few old photos of the railroad would make it even better. I hope you're thinking about putting some in.

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Thanks, I plan on including some photos of the old railroad line.Swampyank (talk) 19:34, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

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Poland Presbyterian Church and Cemetery

As with my #Carolina Methodist Church comment above, please use the more specific by year categories, in this case religious buildings. I would really like to do other editing other then cleaning up articles you create. Thank you. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, will try to remember to do so, I primarily use Elkman's generator, maybe there's a way to modify it or create another one. Swampyank (talk) 00:17, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Please exercise more care when creating these substubs; First Evangelical United Church of Christ stops in the middle of the word because of an NRIS error, while Evangelische Lutherische Emanuels Kirche, Brethren in Christ Church (Garrett, Indiana), Lemmon Presbyterian Church, and Shiloh Presbyterian Church (Ireland, Indiana) all erroneously say that the churches in question are in places that are actually nearby or several miles away. I'm not asking for you to do massive amounts of work, but it would help if you did with these what you did at Pleasant Hill Church. Additionally, ones such as Poland Presbyterian Church and Cemetery or St. John's Lutheran Church and School aren't just a church; if you write about the church only, please use a truncated name for the article. Nyttend (talk) 23:32, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Hammock House in Beaufort, NC

Hello, Swampyank. Regarding your listing of the Hammock House (c1700) as the oldest building in North Carolina, could you please provide some primary source documentation, or at least a link to a NRHP nomination form? While undoubtedly dating to the 18th century, and quite possibly the first half of that century, there is absolutely no evidence that the Hammock House was built as early as its commonly attributed dates - from 1698 to 1709. Based on my research and personal contacts within the North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources, the house isn't listed on the NRHP, primary sources citing the extant structure (as opposed to simply a structure on that site) only date to the middle of the 18th century, no dendrochronological studies have been undertaken, and no solid archaeological or other academic work has been conducted on the structure or its site. There was a book published some years ago about the house, but much of it is based on conjecture, oral traditions, and local legend. None of those are evidence of, well, anything. Most of the other listings at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_buildings_in_North_Carolina appear to have NRHP documentation available and primary sources are easily accessible. The two that don't (aside from the Hammock House), the Lane House and Woodleys Manor, were only recently discovered to have pre-1776 origins within the last six months. Research, documentation, and NRHP nomination is currently ongoing on both structures. After mulling this issue over for the past couple weeks and contacting several officials and professionals in-the-know, not wanting to step on your toes by removing the listing myself, if the date usually attributed to the Hammock House can't be supported, at the risk of damaging the owner's and town's ego, it should be removed. At the very least, it should be given the earliest date that can be documented by primary sources definitively identifying the current structure. Thank you for considering my suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hbh36674 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

It sounds like you've researched the issue quite extensively. I just did a cursory search on Google Books when assembling the oldest buildings list and was hoping others would add more detailed information to wikipedia article as new information came to light. I've moved Hammock House down the list per your request.Swampyank (talk) 05:31, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Rhode Island villages

Great job starting the new articles on Rhode Island villages! If you write any more, would you mind adding them to the county navboxes so they're linked from the other village articles? Thanks, TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 06:49, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, for letting me know. Think I'm done for the night, but I'll have to remember to do that going forward. Swampyank (talk) 06:51, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

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George Soule is my 9th great grandfather. I am preparing a family history book for private publication to family members. I would like to use this photo, but it is not clear to me how to properly attribute the photo to Swamkyank. I am new to participation on Wikipedia. From what I have read on the site, the photo is licensed to use freely, as long as a proper attribution is included.

Thanks Emersong (talk) 23:51, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

If you look to the right side of this "User Talk Page" you will see an option "Email this user." If you email me, I will give you my personal information and you can attribute the photo to me for inclusion in your book. It is nothing too formal. I am a 10th great-grandson of Soule myself through one of his daughters. Swampyank (talk) 00:10, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Mount Olive Cumberland Presbyterian Church

Hi, i wonder if you could create an article at Mount Olive Cumberland Presbyterian Church, Arkansas, which currently redirects to a Mount Olivet Cumberland Presbyterian Church, in Kentucky. I am building out List of Congregational churches in the United States and List of Presbyterian churches in the United States, by the way. Your helping with other redlinks would also be appreciated. --doncram 15:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. Nice work on those lists...they should be pretty useful as a reference tool. Yeah, I had been working periodically on creating stubs for all the NRHP church buildings, so I'll probably get to some of those redlinks eventually. Swampyank (talk) 20:25, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your prompt help! And whatever more you can do would be great. I think there's only about 20 missing NRHP-listed Congregational churches, and if those were created then I'd add (or you could) the corresponding coords and photos to the list-article. By the way, please consider my further two edits, trying use of a "distinguish" ( not-to-be-confused-with ) template, which you could feel free to reverse or change, on the Mount Olive one and on the Mount Olivet one. And i think the "start" template is not good to use, is not prevalent, and usually doesn't make sense for church articles. Usually the NRHP infobox built date is not the founding date of a given church, so I am not choosing to use that. Again, thanks! --doncram 20:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, further! The Congregational list is looking better and better. FYI, i started Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Oak Hill Welsh Congregational Church‎ which, when approved, will fill in the last redlink on that list. --doncram 22:37, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

And that one came into mainspace, so the Congregational list is all bluelinks for NRHP-listed places. Thanks for your help!

I'm developing out List of Presbyterian churches in the United States now, have all the NRHP ones listed, and see there are about 60 or fewer redlinks. Lots bigger list than the Congregational one. It would be great if you'd take an interest here, too! I appreciate v. much how you get photos and bring them down to the individual articles, then I see them and can bring those pics up to the church list-article.

I do think these are great reference lists, thanks for saying. What a huge contribution, to the next person writing a book about church architecture, or about any one denominations' historic churches, or otherwise interested, i think. :) Also, see you past contributions in this map of "articled" NRHPs by county, under discussion/development at wt:NRHP. Cheers, --doncram 00:51, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I notice you actually already created a bunch of the Presbyterian ones, including several on March 26, when i look at edit history of some. FYI, i went to "what links here" and then to the corresponding county NRHP list-articles to look for photos and found that photos were available already for several of these. I was working on Idaho and Indiana within the List of Presbyterian churches in the United States and observed fewer photos in the linked articles than I thought should be present. I also noticed that coords were missing from one which had a street address in the infobox. Perhaps you aren't very aware, but for virtually all NRHP listings that have a street address, the coords are now available at the county list-articles, even if they are not provided from the NRIS-based infobox generator system. SanFranman59 and others routinely look up coords for any missing coords on a list-table. Any way you want to work is fine, but it would add more value for me if you chose to check the county list-articles for photos (and occasionally coords or any notes available in the county list-article Description column), when you start one of these articles. While developing the church list-articles, I hope to go down to the individual place article and grab what is available. Either way, it's still really helpful for me that you start the articles; i can do the photo-checking if you don't want to, and currently you can create the articles more conveniently than me. Again, thanks for all you've done and are doing. cheers, --doncram 23:13, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

NRHP church substubs

O Swampyank!

You've created, and continue to create, a number of very short stubs on NRHP-listed churches, e.g. Saint Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church. I'd like to try to dissuade you from this practice.

Your userpage suggests that I may be doing nothing more than adding a voice to the chorus. However, I know that some of our brother editors regard a sufficiently fervent expression of indignation as an adequate substitute for a reasoned argument. On the chance that you've heard chiefly from such editors, I'll see if persuasion can accomplish what fulmination couldn't.

The root of our disagreement, I think, is this statement on your userpage: "...I believe minimal stubs are better than nothing at all." I must differ, and differ for several reasons. First, the existence of substubs can actually impede the work of other editors, and can hinder the creation of a better article. Second, I think it's reasonable to assume that little or no research goes into the creation of these stubs, so errors and misstatements in the National Register database are unlikely to be spotted and corrected. Third, these two-sentence stubs strike me as a breach of our implicit promise to Wikipedia's readers: "If you click on this link, you'll find something interesting."

Substubs as impediment

The proliferation of substubs impedes the work of other editors—among them, Yr. Correspondent.

My chief contribution to the NRHP end of Wikipedia is photography. I'm based in Nebraska, but do a lot of cross-country travel; and as I drive from A to B, I often pick a random county along my route and try to photograph some NRHP sites there. When I do this, I check up on all the bluelinks for the county. First, they might point me to particular features of a site that need to be photographed. Second, if someone's working hard on an article and trying to push it toward GA status, I want to help them by supplying illustrations.

A world of bluelinks would make this impossible. If there are half a dozen for a county, it's worth my time to check them. However, if there are twenty or thirty for a county, and if the first half-dozen are two-sentence stubs informing me that X is a historic building and was added to the NRHP in YYYY, I'm likely to give up and just photograph whatever's easiest. This means that I'll miss the substantial article that's 12th or 15th on the list, and that would have let me know that I really needed to get a photo of the bullet-holes in the front pew, or the tabby foundation, or the slave burial plot out back.

The existence of a substub might also tend to preclude the creation of better articles. There are editors going through various regions and trying to create good-quality stubs or better for all the redlinks. The presence of an existing article might well keep such an editor from creating a better one: seeing a bluelink, he or she would move on to the next subject.

A justification set forth for the creation of substubs, as expressed on your userpage, is "The sooner the stubs are up, the sooner everyone can add to them." The presumption is that even a very minimal stub is more likely to be expanded into a reasonable article than is a redlink. This is seems reasonable on the face of it; but it doesn't appear to be consistent with the facts. Some months ago, I tried testing the proposition as applied to articles created by User:Doncram, another prolific creator of robo-stubs. I checked the NRHP articles that he had created over a ten-day period two years earlier. Of the 55 articles, 54 were still rated as stubs after two years; and the single exception was an article on a historic district that he had created at someone else's request, which the someone-else had gone on to expand. I suspect that I'd find similar results if I conducted a similar survey on the stubs you've created: after several years, few if any would have moved beyond stubhood.

Error

Regrettably, the NRHP database isn't error-free. WikiProject editors have compiled an impressive list of mistakes that we've found: misspelled names, incorrect dates, wrong addresses, and much more. Some of these have been obvious; others, however, have been discovered only when someone was consulting multiple sources, or when a photo revealed that a cornerstone date conflicted with the one in the NRIS (as was the case, for instance, with Christ Temple AME Zion Church in Dandridge, TN).

Unfortunately, errors in WP are likely to propagate themselves. A bright young parishioner decides to create a webpage for the historic church; and when urged to include a "History" subpage, goes to Wikipedia and parrots our information, errors and all. Future Wikipedians, in turn, find the errors on the apparently independent chuch website, and conclude that they must be correct. (Randall Munroe describes the phenomenon in cartoon form.) This obliges us as editors to be fervent about fact-checking: once misinformation finds its way into Wikipedia and thence spreads into the rest of the world, it becomes much harder to detect and correct the original errors.

Editors who're genuinely interested in a subject and are trying to produce a quality article consult multiple sources, which makes them very likely to catch errors; even someone producing a stub based on, say, the NRHP nominating form alone has some chance of finding contradictions within the form. Auto-stubs produced from nothing more than the NRIS database include no such fact-checking process, and are much more likely to contain errors that'll pollute other information sources.

Disappointing the readership

Consider the non-editing Wikipedia reader who discovers that there's an article about the local church. Our reader eagerly clicks on the link, only to discover nothing more than "St. Madesyn's is a historic church in Sedgewick, Nebraska. It was built in 1913 and added to the NRHP in 2003".

I suspect that for the great majority of readers, the reaction would be along the lines of "What kind of [adjectives, more colorful than polite, deleted] article is this?" If the experience was repeated often enough, the reader's low opinion of the article would spread to cover Wikipedia as a whole.

In principle, of course, our angry reader is supposed to be motivated to hit the local historical society, research up the church in question, and expand the article. In practice, this will probably not occur in the vast majority of cases. Indeed, by creating the impression that WP has an abysmally low standard for its articles, we risk steering our readers away from WP altogether.

A better course

Please forgive the length of this: while invective doesn't require all that much verbiage, argument often does.

Rather than continuing to produce low-quality stubs, why not revisit some of your old articles and expand them? All of the South Carolina nominating forms are now online at the State Historic Preservation Office website; the reading I've done preparatory to my photography expeditions indicates that a number of churches whose stubs you've created have fascinating histories. Wikipedia would be better served with a few dozen good articles than with hundreds of minimal stubs. I can't help but thinking that you'd find the exercise more enjoyable, as well; the mechanical creation of stubs can't be very intellectually satisfying.

Best wishes to you in your Wikipedian endeavors; and I hope that this is in time to stop you before you produce a substub for my childhood church

—Ammodramus (talk) 03:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

tl;dr. The way to coverage is by starting the articles. For one thing, that allows locals to add pictures and information, when they would not if the articles were not already created. Ammodramus, if you wish to cover your childhood church, please do start an article for it. --doncram 03:50, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Further, Ammodramus, please consider simply helping to develop the articles. I believe you contributed photos for several articles Swampyank started in Nebraska, such as Zion Presbyterian Church (Clarkson, Nebraska), Saint Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church, and Presbyterian Church (Bellevue, Nebraska). Each of which was just developed a bit more by me, by adding the NRHP nomination documents that are, happily, available on-line for most Nebraska NRHPs. Wikipedia works fine as a collaboration, with different people contributing what they want to do. I would be happy to work with you to further develop Nebraska articles if you like, A, but we must appreciate Swampyank for getting them started. It's time to start them all, frankly, and get this done, and it's time to stop criticizing those who are just working ahead, complying completely with all Wikipedia policies and guidelines. --doncram 04:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Ammodramus, I understand your perspective that a small amount of information (to which further information may be easily be added) is worse than no information at all because it looks we have low standards and that will disillusion "parishioners" from editing. Wikipedia editing probably originates from and rests on the assumption of self-interest and pride (similar to other successful systems resting on the self-interest assumption and distrustful of human nature such as capitalism and checks & balances in government), so I have no doubt that a parishioner will come forward and improve these articles if for no other reason than that they are proud that they know certain information and have that ubiquitous, inherent desire to create which has been with us since Eden. We're a broad tent of wikipedians, and I'm a firm inclusionist.

I disagree somewhat with your analysis about the utility of stubs. You mention that your small random sampling of Doncram's stubs show that very few have moved to non-stub status. My guess is that most of the occasional readers who might care enough to contribute to a particular stub would not know how to go onto the talk page and change the status of the article, and not all useful edits would change a stub into a top-rated article. I have thousands of stubs on my watchlist and based on my anecdotal observations, hundreds if not thousands of these have had significant, useful information added to them by random individuals (over my past six-years of creating NRHP stubs for MA, RI and various U.S. churches).

Yes, NRHP stubs sometimes have errors in the date, (and I primarily use the Elkman generator information), but dating a building is sometimes difficult and imprecise, and some information is better than no information in terms of a date. Even using dendrochronology and title searches often only produces approximate dates. If this is your chief concern, perhaps the wording would be better to state "The site's period of significance starts in approximately 1900" etc... You make a point there, but I worry that this may be even more confusing.

If you genuinely care about my "intellectual satisfaction," I do create and add to lengthier articles as well and find it fun both watching stubs grow and actively growing articles myself. Most of the stubs I'm interested in creating have already been created over the past six years. Maybe another hundred churches, and it will be done. I'm not really that concerned at this point...it is just a hobby and I contribute when I feel like it, but thanks for your input. Didn't mean to step on your toes with your home church, but you better act quickly! ;) lol Swampyank (talk) 04:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of School Street School for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article School Street School is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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File descriptions (Watertown MA)

Hi. The file descriptions for two of your Watertown, Massachusetts photos should be revised. Captions in wikipedia articles moved me to visit the Files, but such problems will recur or be reproduced in other uses if the descriptions are retained.

I drafted this at the Watertown talk page but noticed that you are the source of both photos and determined to post here instead.

Image captions and descriptions

Some captions need revision here and in neighboring articles. I know how to do that but not how to edit a File description, as at File:Gerry Landing.jpg (Gerry didn't land, marker is not in Watertown). That one may be complicated for two reasons.

• It is written in the first person, so to speak, "My 2008 photo of the Elbridge Gerry landing site plaque in Watertown, Massachusetts." To me it seems best to retain that in quotation marks and to correct it by extension.
• It is stored at Wiki Commons, where I have never registered.

Another one is File:Perkins School.jpg (school moved in 1912).

[signed P64]

I'll be happy to suggest descriptions if that suits you. One point of the first bullet point is I am uncertain whether it is appropriate for me to edit the description of a file you contributed.

At Watertown i will not revise the caption myself without some change in the history it illustrates (Talk: Watertown, Massachusetts#1628–1630), and for that I expect to wait out the weekend. There is great interest in Watertown now at least, there was yesterday ;-) and I hope that some other editors show interest in improving the history.

--P64 (talk) 18:58, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

presbyterian churches

First Presbyterian Church (Cookeville, Tennessee)

Could you possibly please help create a few missing NRHP articles for List of Presbyterian churches in the United States?

• First Presbyterian Church (Cookeville, Tennessee)
• New Providence Presbyterian Church (Brownsburg, Virginia)
• United Presbyterian Church of Shedd, Oregon
• First Presbyterian Church (Wilson, North Carolina)
• Greenville Presbyterian Church Complex, Greenville, New York
• Hebron Presbyterian Church, Pink Hill, North Carolina
• First Presbyterian Church (La Grange, Missouri)
• First Presbyterian Church (Shreveport, Louisiana)
• Pisgah Presbyterian Church (Versailles, Kentucky)
• First Presbyterian Church of Peoria (2012 listing)

The above are all of the missing NRHP ones. It's very few, actually, on a really huge list. Your having already created a whole lot of the ones on the list is appreciated. --doncram 01:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

King Phillips Rock

Hi Swampyank, I am studying King Phillips war and most recently stumbled onto your Wikipedia photos of the Miery Swamp stone and have found the location on my own. I am having a harder time finding King Phillip's rock. Any advice on how I may find it? I can not rest until I see it with my own eyes. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Also why do they call the Yankees the Yankees if it implies New England heritage?

-Joseehan (talk) 14:04, 28 May 2013 (UTC) Josette         frusciante_674@hotmail.com

King Phillip's Rock is part of the Haffenreffer Museum of Anthropology in Bristol, RI. It is probably less than a quarter mile from the museum building in Bristol. One of the museum workers can probably point it out to you. I'm not sure about the New York Yankees, but many New Yorkers with colonial heritage self-identify as Yankees. Swampyank (talk) 01:56, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting

You are invited to the 2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting, on 20 July 2013 in Boston! We will be talking about the future of the chapter, including GLAM, Wiki Loves Monuments, and where we want to take our chapter in the future! EdwardsBot (talk) 10:19, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

NRIS-based articles

I recently returned from an expedition to Arizona, in the course of which I photographed a number of NRHP sites. One of these was St. John's Episcopal Church (Globe, Arizona), on which you wrote the WP article, sourcing it to the NRIS.

In categorizing my photos, I discovered that the NRIS was wrong on the coordinates, the street address, and the construction date of the church. (They were, however, spot-on on the fact that it was a religious property.)

In trying to find a reliable source for the church's construction date, I ran into a number of websites that offered the erroneous date. Fortunately, most of these were obvious echoes of the WP article, using the WP text verbatim, and none of the URLs suggested that they might be authoritative sources on Episcopal churches in Gila County, Arizona.

However, I'm afraid that this corroborates a point that I made earlier: If we rely on the NRIS alone for our articles, without checking the information against other sources, we risk spreading the NRIS's errors through the entire Internet. Although it didn't happen in this case, there's a very real possibility that a parishioner constructing a website for a church would use WP data in that website—and if I'd found the mistaken date at the parish's website, I'd have accepted it as correct.

I hope you'll forgive my returning to this point—it's been five months since my last, which I hope is enough time to acquit me of charges of obsessive harassment. However, it's a point about which I feel rather strongly: that minimal-research one-source stubs aren't helpful to Wikipedia, or even merely innocuous, but can actually thwart our goal of getting useful error-free information out to the public. Ammodramus (talk) 22:08, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of James Sokolove for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Enoch Foster justice on the Maine Supreme Judicial Court.jpg

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Nomination of Redeemer Seminary for deletion

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New England Wikipedia Day @ MIT: Saturday Jan 18

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Proposed deletion of House at 105 Marion Street

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Well, it was until I added cited material which you reverted. Feel free to discuss your objections on the [[Talk:House at 105 Marion Street|article talk page]. There are hundreds if not thousands of articles like this on Wikipedia. Magic♪piano 02:20, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Adrianne Wadewitz Memorial edit-a-thons

Adrianne Wadewitz edit-a-thons in Southern New England

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Dyer Island

Hi Swampyank! I've been away from wikipedia for about 18 months, but someone put one of my articles up for good status, so I had to come back to do some work on the article because I wasn't yet ready to advance it. So I'm back doing some edits, and saw your edits on Dyer Island. Don't know if you put in the material about William Dyer being buried on the island, but if there is no documentation supporting that, then it should be removed. I put a short blurb on the talk page about Dyer's probable burial location. Hope all is well with you. BTW, I now have two RI articles up for good status--William Coddington and Samuel Gorton. I hope to get the Antinomian Controversy article back on the block pretty soon.Sarnold17 (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Bethel Presbyterian Church (Alcorn, Mississippi)

Hello. Thank you for creating Bethel Presbyterian Church (Alcorn, Mississippi). A reference I've added suggests the current building was built in the 1840s, not 1828, although the congregation was established in 1826. It is possible that the church was thus established before another building (the current one) was erected.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Seventh Day Adventist Church (Petoskey, Michigan) for deletion

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Nomination of St. Mary's Episcopal Church, (Flandreau, South Dakota) for deletion

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Nomination of St. Mary's Episcopal Church (Fayette, Missouri) for deletion

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Nomination of St. Mary's Episcopal Church (Franklin, Louisiana) for deletion

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Nomination of St. Mary's Episcopal Church (Middlesboro, Kentucky) for deletion

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Maynard, Massachusetts

The interest in fleshing out Maynard's article is appreciated. I have been deleting or changing content that I believe to be inappropriate or in error, but always with the interest in improving the article. David notMD (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

I am more of a merger than a splitter. My thinking is that people are likely to look for an article on Maynard, meaning the town, and that is where all the information should be. Very unlikely anyone would search for an article on Maynard, Amory. And unlikely that anyone would search on "Assabet Woolen Mill" (which I have nominated for deletion).David notMD (talk) 10:51, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

There are more than 100 businesses in Maynard, in town and in the mill complex. I do not see a need to call out one or two by name. David notMD (talk) 12:37, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Merge discussion - Maynard, MA articles

You recently created articles for Amory Maynard, Maynard High School (Massachusetts), Fowler School, Green Meadow School, Maynard Public Library and Presidential Village. I am of the opinion that this content either already exists in the Maynard, Massachusetts article, or could be merged into that article without creating too much bloat. Are you open to my starting a merge process for any/all of these articles? David notMD (talk) 21:16, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

If you are going to continue to add content to Maynard- and Assabet-related articles, please stop using maynardlifeoutdoors as a reference. Wikipedia discourages using blogs as references, as blogs are typically the creation of individuals, and should not be considered authoritative sources.David notMD (talk) 10:22, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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Archibald G. Rigg

Hello. I've just created Archibald G. Rigg, who designed the First Presbyterian Church of Whitefish that you created. Feel free to expand it. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:19, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Nomination of Presidential Village, Maynard, Massachusetts for deletion

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Withdrew my nomination because other content and citation found. David notMD (talk) 21:50, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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In 2007(!) you uploaded File:Central Church.jpg. There are churches called "central church" in cities around the world; I don't suppose you remember in which town that one was? Thanks. DS (talk) 17:46, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Central Congregational Church in Providence, Rhode Island, USASwampyank (talk) 13:42, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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NRHP followup, thanks

Hey, there was a program which generated a report upon authorship of "substub" NRHP articles (i.e. just sourced to NRIS database), which a year ago showed you as having (barely) more than the next editor (per this copy of the report's output copied by me to a userpage of mine. The report no longer works. But since then a whole lot of your articles have been developed out by me and others, and I am quite sure that your tally would be a lot lot lower, and lower than at least one other editor. In particular all the Colorado and Louisiana and many other states' "NRIS-only" articles have all been developed more, while little dent has been made in Florida where another editor had about 700 articles. It has been a help overall that you created the articles. I have been glad to expand them rather than taking more time to create new stubs. Many of the short stub articles attracted pics and categorizations and other edits adding value, which wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been created by you. Thank you for your contributions! --Doncram (talk) 04:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

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Renmage of "L'Eglise du Precieux Sang"

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Shouldn't L'Eglise du Precieux Sang be renamed to Église du Précieux-Sang ? "Eglise" and "Precieux" are typo error and not French (and church usually use an hyphen in their name in French, and not using the article at the beggining) but maybe we should follow the sources and the more common name. But I don't know this church so what do you think?

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Thoreau siblings

Article about Henry David Thoreau, but none about his siblings. Published content on John and Helen is minimal, but there may be enough about Sophia to warrant an article. David notMD (talk) 17:55, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Seems like starting an article on her could be useful; you're right, there are a lot of sources out referencing her. Swampyank (talk) 03:13, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

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minimal archeological site articles in Maine

Hi Swampyank, i see the creation of a bunch of articles on archeological sites in Maine.

But, taking Archeological Site No. 121-52a as an example, I see problems. In that article an NRHP document is claimed to be a source, but the link does not work. Do you in fact have an offline copy of the document? If not, then the document is not in fact a source. And, you attribute something about Thoreau(?) to that source, but if that is not in fact the source, then the assertion should be removed. And the article then would be properly categorized as a "NRIS-only" minimal stub article, and IMHO we don't want any more of those. By the way, the numbers of NRIS-only articles in each state and county are shown in wp:NRHPPROGRESS, and the total has been brought down to about 1500 by the efforts of me and other editors.

Offhand, I think all the articles should be merged into one combo article, or perhaps all the articles should be redirected back to the county list-article. Taking Archeological Site No. 143-79 for another example, there is zero information in that article not included in the county list-article except the assertion that it is a three-acre site, which could be put into the description column in the list-article.

Do you want to comment here, or should I open a combo AFD about all of them to discuss them all together? That would perhaps be proper to involve NRHP editors and non-involved editors. --Doncram (talk) 13:49, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Maybe i should acknowledge that fairly often i create new NRHP articles in part using the "NRHP infobox generator" which is apparently what you used, which includes a drafted reference to an expected NRHP document and accompanying photos. But right away I will be developing the articles, and i will immediately discover if either the document or the photos does not exist, and I will develop the article in different ways. Very rarely i will ask for deletion of my own new article, if in fact i cannot find any sources to develop it to provide substantially more than what is already in the corresponding NRHP county list-article. This is about 21 new articles, including also:

1. ‪Archeological Site No. 143-53‬
2. ‪Archeological Site No. 143-52‬
3. Archeological Site No. 143-5
4. ‪Archeological Site No. 143-23
5. ‪Archeological Site No. 143-16‬
6. ‪Archeological Site No. 143-15‬
7. ‪Archeological Site No. 143-12‬
8. ‪Archeological Site No. 142-8‬
9. ‪Archeological Site No. 142-6‬
10. ‪Archeological Site No. 142-5
11. ‪Archeological Site No. 142-14
12. ‪Archeological Site No. 142-13
13. ‪Archeological Site No. 142-12
14. ‪Archeological Site No. 133.8‬
15. ‪Archeological Site No. 133.7‬
16. Archeological Site No. 122-4a‬
17. ‪Archeological Site No. 121-71‬
18. ‪Archeological Site No. 121-59‬
19. Archeological Site No. 121-52B‬

--Doncram (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2019 (UTC) Swampyank (talk) 23:56, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

That's fine with me merging them into one combined article. I used the MPS source in the infobox which seems to function for me, but I should have used as a separate reference. That's good to know about the NRHP objectives. Swampyank (talk) 23:56, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, and i am sorry if I came across too negatively or too strongly. I do want to support rather than detract from yours' and others' ongoing efforts to cover NRHP places. In this case, I liked that it addressed an empty spot for the county in the map of NRHP coverage at wp:NRHPPROGRESS. :)

I do see that you must have done some reading in the MPS source, which is linked from within the NRHP infoboxes in some or all of the separate articles. But the text you put into the articles is attributed by you to separate NRHP documents which simply do not exist, and is not attributed to the MPS source. It is not just you who sometimes copy in "NRHP infobox generator" stuff and fail to check the links it sets up; there are occasionally other new editors who do that until they are advised otherwise. But leaving bad links in a new article, for either the photos or the NRHP text, is unacceptable in my view. You conceivably might view it as part of a cooperative process with other editors who will follow, but IMHO that is not okay at all...it puts burden onto me and/or other NRHP editors to actually make corrections and/or to remove false information or false sourcing. I don't think it is bad to leave an article quite short (though IMHO it must contain at least one substantial source besides NRIS and it must give info for readers than is already available to them in the corresponding county-level list-article, or one is wasting readers' time). And I am willing/interested in following other editors sometimes and adding additional information to expand short articles, but I think we have to be individually accountable for what we put in being factually correct and properly sourced.

Here, i checked for a few and find no mention at all in the MPS source of the specific archeological sites. The MPS source does support the general idea that Thoreau spent time in, and wrote about the area, but that is quite general, not specific to any one. It looks to me like combining them all into one article would be best. Perhaps it could be named Archeological sites in Piscataquis County, Maine. If we know they are all within the smaller area of Northeast Piscataquis, Maine, it would be better to change the accordingly, but NRIS as a source only tells us they are in the county. By the way another gripe is that I note the articles contain false statements about locations, e.g. for Archeological Site No. 143-79, it is stated that it is a "historic site in Chesuncook, Maine"; I simply disbelieve that. NRIS does support it being "near" Chesuncook (but by the way does not suggest how near/far that is, it could be tens or even hundreds of miles away). It is likely that Chesuncook was the nearest "substantial" community that the NRHP nominator knew about; nowadays there may be others closer which could be better to mention, although it would still be okay to say Chesuncook is "near" without defining what "near" means.

Anyhow, now, to remedy the situation, could you please go ahead and create a combined article, merging/redirecting each of these separate ones, providing a list of them all together there? And construct a proper reference with title and author(s) and date of preparation and so on for the MPS source, and report on some of what that MPS source says, including linking to the Thoreau book. This would be an improvement upon the current situation and should be an improvement upon the previous situation (where there was no coverage besides mention in the county list-article). I would appreciate very much if you would try to fix up the situation that way. Sincerely, --Doncram (talk) 21:05, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Maine redirects

Also I see you created a number of redirects. For example, Stephensons Landing, Maine now redirects to Pemadumcook Chain of Lakes. But the latter has no information about any "Stephensons" anything. I assume this is not a joke by you, right? Could you comment please? For this and others, I suppose these could be discussed in a group topic about redirects to be deleted or otherwise changed, at wp:RFD(?). Honestly, I don't want to be involved in this kind of discussion at all, but it would be worse to have a bunch more NRIS-only type permastub articles and nonsensical redirects created. --Doncram (talk) 14:12, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay, i opened an RFD discussion so that others than myself can be involved about this one. Again i would rather not have to figure all this out myself, hopefully others will be more informed about general practices. Please discuss there. --Doncram (talk) 16:47, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

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It is my understanding that Stephenson's Landing is a beach on Pemadumcook Lake where the archaeological site was located.Swampyank (talk) 23:53, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting there. I have commented further there, please see. --Doncram (talk) 20:42, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

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