Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 Palmetto High School fight

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 20:31, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Palmetto High School fight

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Fails WP:LASTING (the single burst of coverage was when the mom was arrested), fights happen all the time, what makes this one different? E_F⁵ 17:42, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:NEVENT fail. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:49, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Events, and Schools. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fail WP:EVENT. Fights between students are a dime-a-dozen. When I was in high school, football games didn't count if there were less than three fights under the bleachers during the game. - Donald Albury 19:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Time to let it to rest. Geschichte (talk) 21:30, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm sure these now 30 year-old women would be chagrined that this article exists and the tone of the article body violates WP:BLP deeply; I really do feel like I've participated in an AfD involving this same incident in the past and it was deleted based on that consensus, I just wouldn't remember what it was called. Nate • (chatter) 01:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. A high school fight on Wikipedia? Seriously? Procyon117 (talk) 15:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This isn't just any fight. It's a case of child abuse that should teach something about parenting and how schools should handle things like this. What makes this particular incident stand out is the fact that one of the girls' mothers was involved, cheering on her daughter instead of breaking up the fight, which is basically contributing to the delinquency of a minor. It's because of this that the altercation drew significant media coverage and the mother faced charges even though nobody got hurt during the incident. Again, this was beyond a simple high school fight and speaks to us about the responsibilities of parents and schools. Jake Choke (talk) 00:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“Contributing to the delinquency of a minor” and “this was beyond a simple high school fight” mean nothing if the event isn’t notable. E_F⁵ 00:26, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are the page creator, so understandably would like to keep this, but have a read of WP:EVENT which says An event is presumed to be notable if it has lasting major consequences or affects a major geographical scope, or receives significant non-routine coverage that persists over a period of time. Coverage should be in multiple reliable sources with national or global scope. There is no WP:LASTING coverage of this. Your sense of it may be exaggerated by your closeness to the situation, but it is really not that unusual and not at all significant. It is, at most, a footnote that could belong in another page, but I would probably revet it even from the school page if I saw it. There is nothing encyclopaedic here, and all your sources are primary (news reporting of the event). That is not an encyclopaedic article (a tertiary source) - you are writing a history (secondary source) and an argument that this is a significant case of child abuse is your own thesis, which is original research. This one will not be kept, and neither should it be. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment As I said before, these women are now thirty, and a very issue in their childhood shouldn't be following them into middle age, especially one where neither of them could possibly consent to the footage being released. Before everyone had a recording device, nobody would have cared. Nobody cares now about it in 2024, and the girls deserve peace at this point. Nate • (chatter) 02:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:EVENT. Imagine if every high school fight gets an article on Wikipedia? I don't see any reason why this is worthy of notice. ZyphorianNexus (talk) 03:03, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've explained above why it is. Jake Choke (talk) 04:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fact you want to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS does not make this fight notable. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Non-notable fight, fails WP:EVENT. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.