Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amanda Poach

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The result was no consensus. No consensus to delete the article. Joyous! | Talk 01:36, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Amanda Poach

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fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL Joeykai (talk) 15:38, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 15:49, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 19:12, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not notable enough. Retired player and did not play in senior World Cup. Only a junior player. Spike789 ^Talk 22:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete does not meet our notability guidelines for soccer players.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:07, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - agree with the above that the player fails WP:NFOOTY as has only played college football and made junior international appearances. However, a simple google search suggests enough significant coverage to satisfy WP:BASIC:

SISTERS WITH A PASSION FOR SOCCER G. BRIDGE SIBLINGS CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF SPORT THEY LOVE - seemingly dedicated article on the player and her sister. Appears to be of reasonable length, but don't have HighBeam access, but is clearly non-routine coverage.
The New Faces of St. Louis Athletica - Covers a number of players, but a dedicated 270 word summary of the players career to date.
Special Episode 05 - Amanda Poach and Maxine Goynes - dedicated interview the player
Bowie High grad shines out west - lengthy local news article on the player's college career
Poach Leads Excel To Final; Bethesda Team Tops Dallas Sting - again behind a paywall, but the two available paragraphs indicate non-routine coverage going beyond match reporting and discussing the player in general.
Wilkerson, Poach Provide Something Extra for Bowie - no HighBeam access, but although apparently a match report, there seems to be significant content on the player.

In addition, there is a fair bit of routine match reporting and primary sources which whilst they don't impart notability can be used to flesh out the article into something much more lengthy. Would be interested to hear from @Joeykai: @AlessandroTiandelli333: @Spike789: and @Johnpacklambert: as to why they feel the above does not satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 09:49, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Fenix down: These are all small articles about an athlete who plays for a junior/college team. If she was professional, than maybe I would have second thoughts. Spike789 ^Talk 20:37, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have highbeam access? Have you paid for the full articles on the other sites? I'd be interested to hear what they said if they are apparently small. They don't look like it to me, they seem like dedicated coverage of the player. The level she played at is irrelevant for notability, it is the level of coverage that matters. Happy to reconsider my view if you can elaborate on the content of some of the pay walled sources. Fenix down (talk) 23:02, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Not convinced that the coverage is anything substantial tbh. Giant Snowman 18:51, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meets WP:SPORTCRIT. Additional references available via Google search. Article could use expansion, not deletion per WP:ATD. Hmlarson (talk) 21:04, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meets WP:GNG looking through the references in the article, and those listed in this discussion. Articles are over a lengthy period of time. Nfitz (talk) 19:11, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 16:33, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Passes WP:GNG (per User:Fenix down) so it doesn't matter if it fails WP:NFOOTBALL. St Anselm (talk) 04:23, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I agree with St. It passes WP:GNG, despite failing WP:NFOOTBALL. She didn't have a pro career, but has enough notability. --SirEdimon (talk) 22:00, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 20:06, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. She played in a FIFA world tournament. That should be enough to pass the notability guideline according to WP:GNG and WP:COMMONSENSE...Rameshnta909 (talk) 18:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.