Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aroc
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 05:07, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Aroc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Not notable per WP:MUSICBIO. His group Weekend Excursion is mildly notable per criterion 10 (although that being the only claim is usually not enough to warrant an article), but members of bands are "not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band". Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
KeepAroc has had his voice on national television on MTV's the Real World, and Dawson's Creek. Notable per WP:MUSICBIO criterion 6. Not only this, as related in the article he is and has been active in his local community providing philonthropic charitable donations and activities: transportation services and proper channeling for needy individuals and families to name a few. Furthermore, he is still with the group from time to time performing along side Jeff Foxworth of the "Ontic" and Sam Fisher of Lucas Gambit Records, an notable independent label that has sponsored the final CD he has appeared on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royaloats (talk • contribs) 12:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: Criteria 6 says "musician who has been a reasonably-prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles". While Weekend Excursion might qualify as notable due to the Dawson's Creek and Real World appearances, he has not been a prominent member of a second independent notable ensemble (appearing from time to time is not prominent). The charity work you mentioned doesn't establish notability without significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:12, 11 April 2014 (UTC) - Comment: I can't even find a reliable source that states that he was in "Weekend Excursion" when the songs that aired on TV were recorded, nor can I find any reliable sources that state that he still performs with the group. Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:07, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: Criteria 6 says "musician who has been a reasonably-prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles". While Weekend Excursion might qualify as notable due to the Dawson's Creek and Real World appearances, he has not been a prominent member of a second independent notable ensemble (appearing from time to time is not prominent). The charity work you mentioned doesn't establish notability without significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. --Ahecht (TALK
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:33, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:33, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
KEEP https://www.facebook.com/weekendexcursion?v=info GIVES A TIMELINE OF EVENTS IN REGARDS TO THE BANDS MUSICIANS, HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT HE WAS THE SECOND FRONT MAN FOR THE BAND WEEKEND EXCURSION.[1]
- Comment: Preceding unsigned comment added by Royaloats (talk • contribs) 00:34, 13 April 2014. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:03, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
KEEP I ALSO ASK THAT YOU KEEP THIS ARTICLE BECAUSE THIS GENTLEMAN IS ALSO INVOLVED WITH THE JIMMY V FOUNDATION PERFORMING ANNUALLY WITH THE GROUP TO SUPPORT CANCER RESEARCH AT THE LINCOLN THEATRE RALEIGH, NC[2][3][4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royaloats (talk • contribs) 00:34, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I appreciate your enthusiasm and desire to contribute to Wikipedia. While I have no doubt that this person is an important member of the community and does a lot to support cancer research, please note that the test for inclusion within Wikipedia is notability, not fame, importance, or popularity. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:20, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
KEEP A COLLECTION OF ALL HIS SONGS REMAIN ON SALE YEAR ROUND TO SUPPORT THE JIMMY V FOUNDATION AND CANCER RESEARCH, A PORTION OF THESE CDS SELLS GO DIRECTLY TO CANCER REASEARCH.[5]
- Comment: Preceding unsigned comment added by Royaloats (talk • contribs) 01:59, 13 April 2014. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:03, 14 April 2014 (UTC) - Comment : WOW!
- Preceding unsigned comment added by Royaloats (talk • contribs) 07:31, 17 April 2014. I removed the copy and paste of Edwin McCain. Please don't copy and paste entire wikipedia articles into an AfD discussion. Also see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Thanks. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:47, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Preceding unsigned comment added by Royaloats (talk • contribs) 07:31, 17 April 2014. I removed the copy and paste of Edwin McCain. Please don't copy and paste entire wikipedia articles into an AfD discussion. Also see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Thanks. --Ahecht (TALK
References
[edit]- ^ https://www.facebook.com/weekendexcursion?v=info
- ^ http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/weekend-excursion-mark-kano-band/Event?oid=2726399
- ^ http://www.godowntownraleigh.com/event/weekend-excursion
- ^ https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.38474673430.46765.38460778430&type=3
- ^ http://mbasic.facebook.com/weekendexcursion?v=timeline&timecutoff=1385477802&page=2§ionLoadingID=m_timeline_loading_div_1325404799_1293868800_8_2&timeend=1325404799×tart=1293868800&tm=AQBUxhMdetoXdQoh
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 14:01, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- DELETE - Seems more promo than anything, As above fails WP:MUSICBIO. -→Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 16:20, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:08, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: I've struck the multiple keep mentions, as those are all by the same editor, User:Royaloats. Royal, AfDs aren't decided on a vote - it's decided on the weight of the arguments and making multiple keep "votes" (I use that in parentheses because it's just an easier way to term them) will not add to the one you've already made. You can make more comments, but please do not open each argument with "keep". Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:14, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per Ahecht. SpinningSpark 17:41, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:04, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- Well, there does seem to be some substantial coverage for the band Weekend Excursion. I'm not seeing any for this individual. So I would say Delete unless someone wants to completely rework the article into something about the band and note this individual there. Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:36, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.