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Bash Luks

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Highly dubious notability. Sources seem to be all press releases and promotional interviews. Full of promotion (" Bash Luks is known for singing inspirational and advocacy songs" and trivia (a section on his own description of his tattoos). Bishonen | tålk 20:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Uganda. Shellwood (talk) 20:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Part of a promotional walled garden based on PR. Sources read as pure ridiculously over the top promotion. Not independent. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello duffbeerforme,

I understand that the sources may seem questionable and not entirely independent. However, I'd like to clarify that I am an editor from Uganda, and those blogs are widely recognized and trusted within the Ugandan media landscape. Bajaj250 (talk) 19:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)— Bajaj250 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete looks like a potential notable musician except that the sources are from gist blogs and interviews, a further research for WP:BEFORE subject is not in verifiable in independent sources, hence subject fail WP:GNG Tesleemah (talk)
Keep. Are we looking at the same article and sources? Clearly passes WP:SIGCOV. Appears to be the primary subject of multiple by-lined articles written in mainstream Ugandan media. The articles used aren't blogs but newspapers and independent online media with editorial oversight. There's no reason to believe that the sources are A. not independent (they have by-lined authors who are journalists) or B. Unreliable (they are from publications with editorial staff). The fact that some of the articles go into trivial content like tattoos is not surprising. This is no different than an entertainment journalist writing about Cher's wigs, or Michael Jackson's nose. Celebrity coverage is often vapid in the press.4meter4 (talk) 23:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4 You are not identifying which you think are good here so I base this on your comment on the Lot Fire afd. First you say Kampala Dispatch is a reputable newspapers. Is it? A (admittedly quick) google search didn't impress me much on this magazine. Here one writer has five articles on him with overly promotional language. "The composition not only highlights the duo’s musical prowess but also showcases their artistic vision, appealing to both their established fan base and new audiences seeking innovative sounds. The song serves as a testament to Bash Luks and Off Ryine’s steadfast commitment to their craft, setting a commendable standard for their forthcoming releases." Looking at their entertainment section it appears he is their only writer. and He's praising Big Size Entertainment in glowing terms in September 2024 [1], how they are "championing local talent while highlighting the rich diversity of Uganda’s musical traditions." despite being shut down in 2018. Next came Tower Post. [2]. More than one writer but there does not seem to be many articles in this publication. Only ten in the last year, half being for Lot Fire artists. "The visuals are equally awe-inspiring, captured and directed by Almagic Uganda. The video showcases Jim Siizer relishing the breathtaking outdoor scenery alongside stunning models." "Through his music, Jim Siizer seeks to initiate a thoughtful discussion about the diverse attitudes towards homosexuality and the implications they hold in different societies. The song serves as a platform to address the complexities surrounding this topic, fostering a broader understanding of the cultural differences and social norms that shape these contrasting views." That's not independent journalism. Next News Ghana (of Michelle Tyson fame). [3] no byline. "His exceptional musical talent and unwavering ambition provide him with the necessary tools to ascend to the pinnacle of success." PR blurb. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Kampala Dispatch and The Tower Post have an editorial staff and a staff of independent journalists. Generally when we evaluate magazines and newspapers that is what we look for. Critical assessments can be positive; because after all they are the opinions of the critic writing the piece. Most small papers only have on-staff entertainment journalist/critic, so its not surprising they have the same author. You of course are free to disagree, but I would suspect that the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard would support that the articles are indeed independent given they have by-lined authors and they are local media with staffed editors and journalists. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would love to see the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard tested with the prose from these sites. I'll order the popcorn, will I? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 16:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

4meter4, could you point us towards Kampala Dispatch's editorial staff? Thanks. And then have you found any other journalists they have other than Michael Wandati. In any section, not just entertainment. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete with fire. We really, really don't need to know about his tattoos. This coverage isn't just vapid, it's rampant, blatant, purple PR puff. Fails WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:MUSICBIO and WP:MILL. There’s no evidence of passing any factor to prove notability as a musician. Producers are so common as to be presumed not notable: unless they have significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 02:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]