Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brutal Assault

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#1. The nomination does not present a valid rationale for deletion, and there are no delete !votes present in the discussion. It also appears the nominator has withdrawn, in which they stated "I agree - withdrawn" in a comment in the discussion. Additionally, per WP:NRVE, topic notability is based upon the availability of sources, rather than the state of sources within articles, and AfD is not in place to promote article improvements. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:38, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Brutal Assault

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This article has stood for almost four years. How come no-one has added anything to suggest that this might pass WP:GNG? Laun chba ller 17:29, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Czech Republic-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep, not sure the article in its current format as a neverending list of bands is appropriate, but the festival does seem to be notable. iDnes seems to report on it regularly[1] [2] [3] and so have lidové noviny [4] - filelakeshoe (t / c) 21:29, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In all honesty I think the entire article from the start of Brutal Assault 2014... to the end of Brutal Assault 1996... should be WP:TNTd. I'll blow it up, and see if I encounter any opposition.--Laun chba ller 21:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Distinctive title. There is notability, and when there is notability you have to write the article. It is good to see that 19 sections have been erased from the article. I think there are no serious issues with the article anymore. OccultZone (Talk) 03:02, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - withdrawn.--Laun chba ller 07:15, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that Nasuman has reinstated the cruft with no added edit summary.--Laun chba ller 10:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a serious issue? ..I mean the extensive list of bands performing at Brutal Assault? Or the dates and locations? I don't think so. The list needs refs and maybe better layout but it is informative and I believe it is correct. It also shows that many famous bands played there which might suggest to you that Brutal Assault is not an unimportant local concert for 20 villagers. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 12:33, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes - as far as I can see, its existence on the article violates WP:CRUFT.--Laun chba ller 12:41, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that WP:CRUFT is an advice/essay rather than policy or guideline, see the template {{essay}} at the top. We have many articles constructed in a similar way, see i.e. Glastonbury Festival 2008 or Hammerfest (festival). --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 13:09, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, notable and well known hard rock festival, the biggest event of this kind in the Czech Republic, widely covered in the mainstream national media: [5], [6], [7], [8] (iDNES), [9], [10], [11], [12] (novinky.cz), [13], [14], [15], [16] (Lidové noviny) etc etc. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:11, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Reasonably well-known, and easy to add references. RomanSpa (talk) 12:56, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as above. This nomination is nonsense. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 21:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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