Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chowdhury Hasan Sarwardy
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The result was keep. Nakon 03:39, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
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Military officer with trivial coverage in two related news; doesn't have significant coverage. nafSadh did say 13:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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Delete- can't find significant coverage, I don't think the award it mentions satisfies WP:ANYBIO, “Senabahini Padak” all comes back to his WP article so who knows what it is. I put his name in Bengali on the page and though there are a huge number of results, outside of some brief articles mentioning his promotions, he's only giving quotes or getting mentioned. —МандичкаYO 😜 14:09, 27 May 2015 (UTC)- Delete because there isn't any significant and notable coverage with searches here, here, here and here. SwisterTwister talk 20:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- The articles say to me he is notable. He coordianted major operations. Just because Western Media choose to not give coverage to the actions of Bangladeshi generals does not mean they are not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:06, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep as a general officer per WP:SOLDIER, which while an essay is the accepted standard for military bios amongst those of us who write them. No article on an American or British officer of this rank would have a hope of being deleted. We need to combat systemic bias, which is obviously going to exist against individuals from countries like Bangladesh which don't dump everything onto the internet. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:08, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Only a few Bangladeshi army officers of this rank. The article can be improved but should not be deleted.Sarwardy received the gallantry award 'Bir Bikrom' for displaying courage during a counterinsurgency operation in the Chittagong Hill Tracts, he captured the enemy camp after he had been shot. Bir Bikrom (Bengali: বীর বিক্রম; literally, "Valiant hero" in Bengali) is the third highest gallantry award in Bangladesh. There is systemic bias against articles about non-western topics. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 05:46, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Lt Generals are default notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:02, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Unless those advocating for deletion are fluent in Bengali and have searched sources in that language calling for deletion is premature.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:04, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notability has been challenged and it requires verifiable evidence, however the subject has a considerable chance of notability (due to the subject's ranking in an national armed force), so more discussion is beneficial. Esquivalience t 00:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Esquivalience t 00:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Notability has been challenged and it requires verifiable evidence, however the subject has a considerable chance of notability (due to the subject's ranking in an national armed force), so more discussion is beneficial. Esquivalience t 00:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Esquivalience t 00:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. As suggested above, a Western officer of this rank (especially one so highly decorated) would be considered inherently notable per WP:SOLDIER and an article about them would stand little chance of being deleted. Due to the Wikipedia's general focus on online English-language sources, it's hard not to fall victim to systemic bias, but we should strive to avoid it. As a thought, is there a suitable project anywhere were we could ask Bengali speakers to try to find some more sources? Mr Potto (talk) 01:22, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- WikiProject Bangladesh is your best bet. I added his native name to the article (as is frequently done in Bangladesh-related articles, but not necessarily in other South Asian articles) so you can also search on your own. The Bangla coverage appears to be much like the five English-language newspaper articles already cited. Plenty of quotes whenever he commands a factory collapse rescue, and mentions every time he gets promoted or attends an event. No in-depth coverage focused specifically on him though. Worldbruce (talk) 18:59, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - changing my recommendation as I was not aware he qualified per WP:SOLDIER —МандичкаYO 😜 13:07, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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