Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conor Molan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conor Molan

An Irish footballer who does not meet the inclusion guideline of WP:ATHLETE for an article in the encyclopedia as he has not played in a fully professional league. Limerick F.C., the club that he played for up to Nov 2007, does not play in a fully professional league. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:ATHLETE, hasn't competed in a fully professional league. No other claim to notability. Nanonic (talk) 00:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; non-notable. Giant Snowman 01:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I was under the impression that this was a professional league, but I appear to have misread the article for Limerick. Them From Space 02:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above + the subject apparently wants it gone as well.--EchetusXe (talk) 07:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I would have to cast doubt on whether the editor claiming to be the subject is such, as an edit he made preserved the claim that he is currently at Limerick F.C., but his name is not mentioned at that club's site. Previous versions of the page link him with Melbourne F.C. and/or Whittlesea Zebras: might he have made A League appearances with either of them (I note that Whittlesea won the Victoria Premier League in 2004, and were runners up in 2007, and am guessing that these might have earned promotion). Kevin McE (talk) 08:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, fails notability for sportspeople at WP:ATHLETE and general notability at WP:N. --Jimbo^[online] 08:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'm struggling a bit to find evidence one way or another for the professional/amateur status of the FAI First Division, in which Limerick compete - can anyone give me a cite to confirm it's not a fully pro league? I don't doubt it, would just like a concrete confirmation.

FWIW we also only have the objecting editor's say-so that he's the subject of the article; there's been no formal verification. Again, I've no reason to doubt the claim, I just want it made explicit that we're taking it on good faith. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was an article on Setanta recently about how the Premier Division is not fully professional (it has since been removed, but you can see it on Google searches), so if the Premier isn't, I very much doubt the First is. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 08:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds plausible. I've got more circumstantial evidence: Wexford Youths F.C., who also play in the First, are described (as of June 08) as "completely amateur" (presumably in the literal sense, and this isn't just a journo being harsh!) in an article here; this Irish Times article asserts that "a growing number of First Division clubs struggle even to meet the criteria that would normally be applied to the term “semi-professional”." But I'm wary of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH, and I'd still like a flat-out confirmation. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Hassn't play in a fully pro league, thus failing WP:ATHLETE. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 08:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A Conor[1], Connor[2], or Conner[3] Molan played for Whittlesea Zebras FC in the Victorian Premier League 2008. But AFAIK the state premier leagues aren't fully pro. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:ATHLETE. لenna vecia 19:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE. ukexpat (talk) 20:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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