Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eamonn Cooke

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 09:24, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Eamonn Cooke

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First, as nothing more than the perpetrator of some sexual assaults, Cooke does not meet notability requirements of WP:CRIMINAL. Neither has it been established that he was a notable DJ. And most importantly, there is the policy about biographies of recently-deceased persons. The man had not been charged with anything to do with the Cairns abduction, nor has anything been proven. The investigation is ongoing. It's not our job to report salacious gossip. — Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 13:19, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete as nominator.~~ — Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 13:20, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Struck duplicate !vote from nominator; the nomination is considered as your !vote. However, feel free to comment all you'd like. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:14, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

He was also a notable (albeit minor) figure in the history of Irish broadcasting. He is also the subject of much media coverage over some despicable criminal acts but if that's a reason not to have a Wikipedia article is does Al Capone or Rudolph Hoss the subject of Wikipedia articles ? Keep 86.146.222.51 (talk) 13:26, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Because Capone and Höss were world-famous criminals with a proven record of major crime. We do not have articles on everybody who has ever been convicted/charged/suspected/rumoured of anything. Again, WP:CRIMINAL. — Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 14:32, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

But Cooke's notoriety does not solely derive from his status as a child molester. He also played a role in the development of Irish broadcasting. He may have been a despicable character but so was Jimmy Saville and nobody is questioning whether he merits a Wikipedia article. 86.146.222.51 (talk) 15:02, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete none of his various criminal activities recieved the type of widespread coverage to establish notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:44, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

But his broadcasting related activities were the subject of extensive media coverage down through the years and were extensively covered in at least one book. 86.146.222.51 (talk) 13:50, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:40, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:40, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:40, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - he was the owner of a well-known Dublin pirate radio station and had apppeared in newspapers in connection to the station many years before the convictions, thus a minor celebrity on a national scale. There is no article on Radio Dublin, which is where material on him might otherwise go. Given that WP:RS credited an Garda Síochána with stating he was a credible suspect, it seemed more than mere salacious gossip. Admittedly, I have overlooked WP:BDP and am not entirely sure how this should be dealt with. One approach may be to shorten the part on the Cairns disappearance in the article to say that he is being investigated as a viable suspect in the diasappearance by an Garda Síochána without specifying the allegations further. Another would be to excise any mention of the Cairns disappearance until a definite conclusion is reached by an Garda Síochána or WP:BDP no longer applies. (The latter may occur due to forensic tests being inconclusive.) The 2007 convictions and the conviction for arson on the home of a complainant in an assault case would seem to be ouside WP:BDP as they were reported by WP:RS and could have been included in an article written while the subject was alive. Autarch (talk) 22:32, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - certainly a notable figure in the history of Irish broadcasting, and IRA membership seems to be grounds for notability on many other articles. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 21:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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