Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georgia Fowler (2nd nomination)
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The result was keep. Although a late one, there is a consensus that Fowler has enough sources that pass WP:GNG while also passing WP:NMODEL. (non-admin closure) Jovanmilic97 (talk) 22:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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Model with inadequate evidence of notability-- no substantial references DGG ( talk ) 05:59, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete: Lacks significant sources and coverage. --Danozzz (talk) 08:17, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:BASIC. Clear failure of WP:BEFORE. See here 1 2, Vogue and Harper's Bazaar are both RS publications for fashion. Please do the necessary work to substantiate an AfD, and explain your reasoning (not a one-sentence proposal unless the case is really, really straight forward) before wiping out the work of other editors. FOARP (talk) 09:29, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- It can be difficult in this field to distinguish between PR and encyclopedic coverage. Of the references mentioned above, perhaps a case could be made for the first being actual journalism, but I do not think it could for the second. DGG ( talk ) 02:18, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete PR coverage is not a sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. No third-party in-depth coverage. The Vogue article is an interview and not WP:RS for notability purposes. Fails WP:NMODEL. Narky Blert (talk) 15:05, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Lady was featured in two news article in The Sydney Morning Herald and in Arab News and another Australia newspaper; refs added to article.--the eloquent peasant (talk) 21:08, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- See also here in Harper's Bazaar. --the eloquent peasant (talk) 00:48, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- WP:NACTOR states notability is met if the model "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." Georgia has 780K followers on her Instagram. That seems like a large fan base. The company she models for, Victoria Secret, has the 8th largest following on Instagram.--the eloquent peasant (talk) 10:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I added a few more references to fashion magazines that feature interviews with Fowler and a couple from News Corp Australia Network. The Victoria Secret Instagram following is over 63,531,983. Would the fact that she's one of their top representatives help her notability case? --the eloquent peasant (talk) 20:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- WP:NACTOR states notability is met if the model "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." Georgia has 780K followers on her Instagram. That seems like a large fan base. The company she models for, Victoria Secret, has the 8th largest following on Instagram.--the eloquent peasant (talk) 10:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- See also here in Harper's Bazaar. --the eloquent peasant (talk) 00:48, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:20, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:58, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:58, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep TV presenter as well as model, meets GNG. MurielMary (talk) 10:00, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:31, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:31, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Victorias Secret Fashion Show is huge. Inclusion in three is a major gig. Definitely keep. Kevinh456 (talk) 06:50, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Three Victoria's Secret shows + presenting Project Runway New Zealand should satisfy WP:NMODEL. Bondegezou (talk) 17:46, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Although some of the references seem like 'fluff pieces', enough are from sufficiently reliable sources to make her notable. Ross Finlayson (talk) 16:18, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Notable and enough of the references are good. (Dushan Jugum (talk) 19:41, 4 January 2019 (UTC)).
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