Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ilham Nazarov
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Geschichte (talk) 10:24, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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The article has been refbombed so it appears to be notable. After a closer inspection however, we can see that the most are namedrops, non-independent publishers and/or sources with only a few lines dedicated to the subject (per WP:SIGCOV they have to be detailed). I’ve made an extensive source analysis on the Turkish Wikipedia, which shows that the only good source is this.
The argument the user gave against deletion on the Turkish Wikipedia is that it was (somehow) kept on the Russian Wikipedia. With different projects having different notability guidelines, I don't see how that's a legitimate reason.
The non-Azerbaijani pages have been created around the same time, and all pages are created by, in my opinion, the same person (en, tr, az exactly same user, user from ru-wiki has only created the article). I'm sorry but I smell a paid contribution here. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 15:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 15:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 15:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 15:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:57, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Strong keep The person who submitted the request to delete the page did it wrong. There are many references to the opera singer, and they are all reliable sources. Has performed on world famous opera stages, is an honored artist, laureate of the country's presidential awards.--Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 00:02, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- I did wrong what exactly? I don't want to go off topic here, but whenever you comment on an AfD, whether it's the Turkish or English Wikipedia, you manage to stun me by saying something I completely don't understand. You need use the policies, not personal comments. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 19:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: enough to pass notability, but the article needs some work! Kolma8 (talk) 22:35, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Kolma8: you really want me to translate the source analysis, which shows why it in fact isn't enough, into English? If there is a need for that tell me please. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 12:41, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- I looked through RUS-net and there was enough to pass GNG for sure. I am not sure about AZE/TUR sources as I don't speak/read those languages. Respectfully, Kolma8 (talk) 20:32, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Kolma8: you really want me to translate the source analysis, which shows why it in fact isn't enough, into English? If there is a need for that tell me please. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 12:41, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:17, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - I'm going with keep. The article surely needs clean up for cruft, but, I think if we had a few more editors skilled in non-English reliable secondary sourcing this article would be a-okay. I believe the subject is notable in Azerbaijan. He's sang a duet with Joss Stone[1] and he's the subject of a scientific paper[2]. I'm convinced the guy is notable in his home country and would qualify if we had the right sourcing. Missvain (talk) 18:23, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per admin Missvain, Kolma8, and Elshad. The person is notable but the article needs work. When this happens, it's better to try improving the project rather than destroying it. Various templates can be placed at the top of the page if there's concerns about lack of references. Dr. Universe (talk) 04:44, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:58, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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