Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Daly (scientist)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Lourdes 13:11, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Daly (scientist)

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Does not meet WP:ACADEMIC, only source provided lacks independence from the subject, no substantive coverage in suitable sources to verify notability. KDS4444 (talk) 04:56, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Daly led the team that developed Haploview. He was also heavily involved with Genehunter software development. His research in genetics is widely cited. Because his name is so common, a very careful search is required to separate the wheat from the chaff. This stub should be expanded rather than being deleted. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Haploview— looks borderline notable; Genehunter has (as yet) no Wikipedia article at all. While I recognize the difficulty in identifying the specific "Mark Daly" who is the subject of this article, claiming that "sources must exist" is one of the arguments to avoid in a deletion discussion, yes? Is there wheat? Where is it? KDS4444 (talk) 09:01, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Whether or not a specific one of his research projects has a Wikipedia article is utterly irrelevant as to whether or not this scientist is notable. The sources that confirm his notability under WP:ACADEMIC do exist, and you would have seen them if you had searched for them as recommended by WP:BEFORE. Why don't you report back to us how often this scientist's published research is cited by other scientists? Once you do that, I predict that you will withdraw your nomination. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:20, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This appears to be a failure of WP:BEFORE. A few seconds on Google scholar turns up >40 papers authored by Mark Daly (yes, this one specifically) with greater than 1000 citations. In total, his publications have been cited 189,806 times. This individual has clearly had a significant impact in his field of study. Deli nk (talk) 18:42, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: While personally, I agree with Cullen and Deli nk's views (and this Afd could probably be closed as a keep), I am giving it one re-list just to be sure.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes 05:38, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Citations are always a gray zone for WP:ACADEMIC, and I tend to be a deletionist in cases that focus mainly on that, but I would say this case qualifies at least for a stub. Kingofaces43 (talk) 18:18, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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