Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Percy Taylor
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 17:57, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
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Not notable. This fits a minimum guideline on WP:Notability-sports because he played in the Victorian Football League, but there's no other reason why he'd be notable, and I don't think every single person who appeared in any professional sporting event is, by that fact, notable. Djcheburashka (talk) 02:57, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk to me 03:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk to me 03:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as per the long and well established consensus that playing in the highest level of a sport is notable. WT:NSPORTS is the place to argue against it if you don't like it. The-Pope (talk) 04:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- WT:NSPORTS says there is not a consensus that appearance in a single competitive match justifies notability. If this person was a particularly notable player, then the page should say that with WP:RS. If the page is so-modified I will self-revert my deletion proposal. Djcheburashka (talk)
- Keep played 41 games in the VFL, the highest level Australian rules football competition. Meets WP:NAFL. Jevansen (talk) 05:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- WP:NAFL does not say that anyone who played in Australian football is notable. It says that someone who played may be notable. Someone in the last few weeks seems to have gone in and tried to create bare-bones entries for, apparently, dozens, if not every, player in the Australian football league, ever, almost all of those articles cited only to the Encyclopedia of Australian Football (or whatever its called). Is that really what we want? Djcheburashka (talk) 05:57, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- That would be me, and the number is in the vicinity of about 2000. We have thousands of articles on tiny towns and cities, is that what we want? The idea of an encyclopedia is to contain encyclopedic knowledge, and you aren't going to be interested in every article. That doesn't reduce its' notability or relevance. There are numerous more references for these players if you want to go digging through scanned newspapers. Terlob (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- And we still have another 4000 or so to go. And on a lot of these stubs, myself, Jevansen and others have already added more (referenced) info, whether it be more personal (family connections), more football achievements or details of their pre/post football life. Once the article exists, adding the info is easy. Creating the article is hard. And you are completely misreading the NSPORT guideline, it says that such a player is likely to be notable enough for an article, and is really designed to avoid wasting our time on this board defending articles, on these fully referenced/verified generally non-BLP stub articles.The-Pope (talk) 11:26, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- That would be me, and the number is in the vicinity of about 2000. We have thousands of articles on tiny towns and cities, is that what we want? The idea of an encyclopedia is to contain encyclopedic knowledge, and you aren't going to be interested in every article. That doesn't reduce its' notability or relevance. There are numerous more references for these players if you want to go digging through scanned newspapers. Terlob (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- WP:NAFL does not say that anyone who played in Australian football is notable. It says that someone who played may be notable. Someone in the last few weeks seems to have gone in and tried to create bare-bones entries for, apparently, dozens, if not every, player in the Australian football league, ever, almost all of those articles cited only to the Encyclopedia of Australian Football (or whatever its called). Is that really what we want? Djcheburashka (talk) 05:57, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep There exists here on Wikipedia a strong working consensus that professional athletes who have competed at the highest level of a professional sport are notable. I support that working consensus. To answer Djcheburashka's question about whether we want dozens of "bare-bones" articles about Australian football players, cited to a reliable encyclopedia about that sport, then my answer is "Yes", that is precisely what we want. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:NAFL. And I agree with Cullen 328 re what we want Wikipedia to be. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 00:33, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep meets WP:NAFL and I second the seconding of what Cullen328 said. Mellowed Fillmore (talk) 03:42, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
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