Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seven Sons of China

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:36, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seven Sons of China

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Probably an original research with no notability. The article title is not commonly recognizable, almost no Google search result match it. No article in Chinese Wikipedia corresponding this. Only three references and all of them are not directly linked to the topic of the article. Techyan（Talk） 10:17, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Jupitus Smart 12:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Jupitus Smart 12:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - These seven cities or areas just described by a series poems, the concept does not exist.--xiliuheshui※MESSAGE BOARD 16:20, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to Wen Yiduo. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:15, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment zh-wiki does have an article on the poem zh:七子之歌 Snuge purveyor (talk) 19:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment True, but even in the Chinese Wikipedia it's a very poorly sourced one. There's a dead link pointing to a Tsinghua University article (which we don't know if it's a balanced analysis of the works' significance or a POV piece supporting Chinese territorial claims) and a dubious source merely transcribing the poems' Chinese original text. If kept, the article should be rewritten as one primarily describing the poems (although a section describing objectively the political background may be useful), removing all geopolitical analysis (infoboxes, graphics, statistics, "concept" claims and so on). Links to Chinese nationalism and One-China policy on the "See also" section should be added instead. --Urbanoc (talk) 05:43, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The dubious source does have some background a scroll past the poems, but with your points I agree in entirety. Delete. Snuge purveyor (talk) 07:05, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I checked again and indeed you're right, it has a fair amount of background under the poems' text (albeit in a rather panegyric-like tone, especially towards the end). Thanks for pointing that out. --Urbanoc (talk) 07:13, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete At this point, I fail to see enough sources to back a Wikipedia article on the subject. However, the author is somewhat known within the PRC and his works seem to have government support there. A future article centring on the poems and not on their geopolitical implicancies may be possible. --Urbanoc (talk) 05:43, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:48, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Article creator is pushing these poems by adding a link to the lede of every relevant Wikipedia article , i.e. here. However, I don't see their significance or notability reflected in a range of reliable secondary sources, as required by Wikipedia policy. Citobun (talk) 13:33, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.