Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sonbarsa Raj

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, retitle, and reframe‎ as an article about the place. The argument that there is an inhabited place with a related name that would meet GEOLAND has not been rebutted. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:27, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sonbarsa Raj

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This article has only two sources and that too donot cover it in depth. They fail WP: THREE and definitely don't fulfill WP:GNG. ~ Admantine123 (talk) 19:18, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. Admantine123 (talk) 19:18, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History and Bihar. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. For a dynasty that's claimed to be in existence for almost 300 years (assuming the dates in the article are reliably sourced) find it surprising there isn't more coverage. Only just come across this AfD and request a relist please to allow time to look into this. Rupples (talk) 03:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: to make things confusing, there's a town by this name, too.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 04:46, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@A. B. Good point. I'm thinking along the lines of whether this article could be kept as part of the history of the village/town, if it can be reliably established the two are linked. Rupples (talk) 15:37, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:28, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment/recommendation. This article was significantly refocussed in January 2022, when the infobox for the 'block' was removed. Official sources (2011 census and govt websites) indicate "Raj" has been dropped from the place name. Sources don't seem quite sufficient to satisfy GNG for the historical raj itself but the material does form part of the place/area's history. Suggest renaming the article "Sonbarsa, Saharsa"; reinstating infobox settlement; removing the raj infobox and keeping the existing text in a History section. Basically this amounts to a keep and move recommendation with presumed notability for the place under WP:GEOLAND. Rupples (talk) 12:29, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and move - I concur with Rupples's assessment that this is something of a hijacked article. N.b. there's a Sonbarsa in Nepal that would be in need of hatnote disambiguation. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.