Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ted Gambordella

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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ted Gambordella

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Restored PROD'd page - Advertisement/Vanity page for non-notable individual - no reliable primary sources Peter Rehse (talk) 04:06, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.Peter Rehse (talk) 04:07, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. (And, if kept, the page certainly needs improvement.) I do feel that somebody who's written that many books has probably acquired enough independent coverage to be notable, but I can't find that coverage anywhere. (And, yes, I know that feeling somebody ought to be notable is not enough.) Although Google News turns up very little (actually, it mostly seems to be about political disagreements with his son Ted Jr, and Ted Jr's school wrestling(?) achievements), there are some hits on Google Books. The first two pages are entirely Gambordella's own books but, from page 3 onwards, there are mentions in a variety of martial arts and sports coaching books, including a page-long anecdote here. A lot of the other books aren't online enough to gauge how much they talk about Gambordella but there might be notability in there. Ironically, the article claims media coverage in a variety of places but, instead of citing the coverage, it cites a claim in one of the books! Dricherby (talk) 11:07, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:19, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete There are a lot of claims, but they're not independently supported. I can't find independent reliable sources that show "he is often referred to as "the Father of Modern American Jiu Jitsu" ", or that he's won numerous U.S. championships, or that "He is also recognized in the list of five most influential American Jiu Jitsu teachers ever." The sources for these claims all seem to be his websites or sites selling his stuff (blackbeltinabox.com, really?) or blogs that are dead links. The only claim that might be supported is as an author, but I didn't find independent reliable sources to show he meets the notability requirements for authors, either. Jakejr (talk) 15:44, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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