Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 15
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| Scientology – Further comments to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/COFS – 11:12, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Scientology, again
A couple of Scientologist editors have engaged in large numbers of edits apparently intended to whitewash the main Scientology article. Their responses to other editors have not been WP:CIVIL both on Talk:Scientology and in edit comments. Two of them have been blocked (see links for details) but this does not seem to have helped much. Is there anything that can be done? SheffieldSteel 14:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Actaeon Films – 6 articles deleted – 08:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Actaeon Films, Nightwalking, Amelia and Michael, and others→ See also: A Fitting Tribute Afd + Nightwalking Afd + Amelia and Michael Afd + Make Me a Tory Afd
In July 2006, Actaeon Films and Daniel Cormack were deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Actaeon Films and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Cormack respectively. Daniel Cormack has stayed gone, but now the company is back. The two registered users created all but one of the film articles and recreated Actaeon Films (which will probably be re-deleted again per WP:CSD#G4) and the IP comes behind to embellish the articles. These aren't film masterpieces and there's not much about them to reference, and all have been sent to AFD. These people may have more film articles that I haven't found, but at least we've found these. - KrakatoaKatie 14:12, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Development and Underdevelopment – Deleted – 08:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Development and Underdevelopment (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Subrata Lahiry (talk · contribs) The user who created this article is the author of the book that is the subject of the article. The article needs an extensive re-write. This may need to be deleted and started from scratch. Bearian 17:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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| 3G Studios – Deleted – 08:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC) |
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and made dubious additions (removed) about their unreleased, unannounced video game to:
--Piet Delport 00:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Vlad Muzhesky – Deleted – 08:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Creator User:M01agency, admits to being Vlad Muzhesky on his userpage. It is just about the only article he's done. Article had a clearly erroneous internal wikilink -- mixing up SFMoMa and MoMA (I've been to both) and it was on Alex's Bot list. POV and false links. Bearian 01:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Sorry, fixed syntax. Bearian 01:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| Gina Genovese – Deleted – 08:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| User:208.69.24.156 – Drive by edit – 05:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC) |
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208.69.24.156 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) The above user has removed critical material from Mel Sembler. I have reverted his edit [1] (his only edit) and placed a {{subst:uw-delete1}} on their talk page. I clicked on "Whois" and the IP's net name is "THESEMBLERCOMPANY". I hope this is the correct place to post this - I'd like to know what to do next. Thanks in advance. Trugster 17:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Edina Lekovic – Sockpuppet of banned user blocked indefinitely – 11:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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That account has been confirmed as a sockpuppet of His Excellency. DurovaCharge! 04:32, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Follow-up: User:Flamgirlant is a confirmed sockpuppet of User:Kirbytime, see Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kirbytime.Proabivouac 03:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| Etheric boxing – Deleted – 02:20, 7 July 2007 (UTC) |
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→ See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Etheric boxing
Fairly obvious, article has somewhat spammy tone. DNS lookup is
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| Credit Action – Deleted – 13:50, 6 July 2007 (UTC) |
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According to the source of Image:CreditActionLogo.jpg, the author works for the organization. Videmus Omnia 17:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
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| 21 Ventures – 6 articles deleted – 02:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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→ See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/21 Ventures
Walled advertising garden, seemingly promoting business ventures that the two listed users are involved in. Looks like at least one other article (Voip Logic) has already been speedied. --Calton | Talk 06:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Microsoft Say Macedonia – Deleted – 03:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Obvious conflict of interest, spammy article. Creating editor and article name are very similar. Screams POV. Nominated by another editor for possible lack of notability. See talk page for more info. I added stubs in case the consensus is to keep it. Bearian 01:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Fixed typo (small m). Bearian 01:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| User:Cdavies 45 – 2 articles deleted – 03:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Cdavies 45 (talk · contribs)
Film articles created by the writer/director of the films. Videmus Omnia 14:54, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
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| SilverSpirit – Deleted – 03:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Band article created by band member. Videmus Omnia 03:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Dharmanidhi Sarasvati – Deleted – 05:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC) |
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The article creator, Sasisekhara (likely the same as {Sasisekhara.sarasvati (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)), has admitted representing the Trika Institute of which Dharmanidhi Sarasvati is founder.[2]. Though this editor isn't active now, other single-topic editors have been defending this article (eg [3], [4]) with assertions of knowledge that smell of inside involvement. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dharmanidhi Sarasvati is ongoing. Gordonofcartoon 13:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| WhiStle Radio – Deleted – 02:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| National Comprehensive Cancer Network – Copyvio removed – 04:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC) |
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(I've seen a similar pattern of adding copyvio one para at a time a few days apart from different ips before--I assume such is intended as attempts to fly beneath the radar. ) DGG (talk) 22:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
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| User:Iantresman – Blocked, indefinitely. Discussion to WP:CSN#Iantresman – 02:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC) |
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This user has been editing articles related to Immanuel Velikovsky and catastrophism despite having an abiding coflict of interest as he sells a CD-ROM on the subject. As he stands to benefit from advertising these subjects at Wikipedia (even if he doesn't spam for the actual products) I have placed a COI warning on his talk page. Other Wikipedians may wish to comment as well. See his personal web page for more information and the website where the CD-ROM is offered for sale.--Velikovsky 18:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
However ... I think the basis of this needs a bit more examination. This current complaint comes from an extremely new account, Velikovsky (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), whose operator also appears to have an agenda, and has posted a bogus warning template [7] to Iantresman's page. Gordonofcartoon 15:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
This is an all part of a familiar pattern of behavior from Iantresman. He's already on arbcomm probation for "aggressive biased editing" per Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience. Any biased editing or edit warring at any of the articles listed here are blockable without further discussion, and should be just be listed here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience#Log_of_blocks_and_bans Self-promotion is a particular form of biased editing and is something we'll need watch for moving forward. FeloniousMonk 16:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Comment. Iantresman (talk · contribs) has been blocked indefinitely by another admin.[8] Vassyana 21:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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| John Cremeans – didn't require intervention in the first place – 08:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Most of the edits to John Cremeans are by User:JCremeans, and all of his edits have been to his article. I have put a {{uw-coi}} on his talk page. Seems notable enough that we should edit instead of deleting. Tualha (Talk) 22:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Fran Gray – 2 articles deleted – 02:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC) |
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...both created by User:Fgray. (See User talk:Fgray for my query to this user.) It's also unclear as to whether these meet the WP:MUSIC criteria. -- Karada 16:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Moot point; protection already downgraded. Issue already discussed at ANI. Non-admin closure. The Evil Spartan – 17:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Editors who are fans of the book seem to be attempting to subvert policy discussion in order to prevent the article discussing an online leak of the book, even though the mention of the leak is reliably sourced and contains no information about the contents or location of the leak. While I am sure that they believe that they are acting in good faith, I am worried that these fans are acting in the interest of the book hype and "protecting" the release date because they are afraid that mention of a leak will somehow spoil the release. The contention is that since the leak "can't be proven true beyond a reasonable doubt" it is violation of WP:V. I believe that the policy has nothing to do with courtroom standards of "reasonable doubt" but proper attribution. Whether or not the leak even is real is irrelevant - major news sources have reported it, including the LA Times and SkyNews, which constitutes a verifiable source. Thank you, Girolamo Savonarola 17:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Richard Parnell Habersham – Article survived AFD, tagged for {{COI}} and {{unverified}} problems – 14:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
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→ See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Parnell Habersham
Article created, edited by article subject. RJASE1 Talk 00:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Gwen Shamblin – See below – 14:24, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
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→ See also: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Gwen Shamblin and NPOV's "N"
The above account is a single-purpose account editing the Gwen Shamblin article. Videmus Omnia 15:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Bruce Wydner – Problems appear solved per AFD; content stubbified; please relist of spamming continues. Nonadmin closure. The Evil Spartan 14:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC) – 14:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Dbp653 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) seems to be on a crusade to insert this Bruce Wydner (only 200 Google hits) and his company into a pivotal role in the development of machine translation, apparently on the basis of a personal association self-described here: "I have been working with Bruce Wydner for several years and I decided to tell this story through Wikipedia ... Your attempt to furnish an unbiased opinion on this article is in poor taste, and is much uninformed ... please feel free to ask myself or Bruce Wydner any questions, or even better yet give him a phone call, he is very nice and polite and he doesn’t mind talking, if you would like, just tell him that I told you to call him, we are the best of friends". The same editor has been using the address 207.160.210.214 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), and Brucewydner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has also been involved with some of these articles. I've posted a {{uw-coi}} warning to User talk:Dbp653. Gordonofcartoon 11:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
This is getting problematical: now Bruce Wydner himself has posted a lengthy justification for Wikipedia being coopted into revealing this story - in the US national interest, no less [9]. Brucewydner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has also restarted editing his own article. Help would be appreciated.
Resolved via AFD consensus to delete. Just needs cleanup on Eyring Research Institute and Bruce Bastian. Gordonofcartoon 04:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| European Roma Information Office – Resolved – 14:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| Unruh's interferometer – Article deleted – 14:50, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Article seems mainly to be a summary of very recent controversial research by originator of article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.229.58.191 (talk • contribs) 9 July, 2007.
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| Rei Kimura – article deleted – 14:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Article is obvious self-promotion by the author. COI warning was left on User Talk page, but this person was active for only one day. Also added herself to Kimura. Askari Mark (Talk) 04:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Mike Torchia (fitness trainer) – Deleted – 08:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Operation Fitness is an enterprise run by the article subject. Based on the promotional tone of the article and the source/licensing information given on the images uploaded by the above user, the author is either Mike Torchia or someone associated with him. Videmus Omnia 16:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| Rodney Keith Moore – Nothing to do – 10:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC) |
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These accounts don't seem to get the idea behind conflict of interest or notability, having created both Rodney K Moore and Rodney Keith Moore. Both articles have been deleted, one by speedy deletion, the other by AfD (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rodney K Moore). Continue to add Moore's name to various lists and categories of polyglots as well as people from Alabama. --A. B. (talk) 22:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| Frank R. Wallace – Duplicate issue, see below – 07:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC) |
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User:Bi may be involved in WP:COI edits. (Talk Page: External Links.) This users website has been noted to be a competitor on an official Frank R. Wallace (1932-2006) homepage (last paragraph notes the spoof site Pax-Neo-TeX). Although User:Bi editing as a competitor affects the whole article (i.e. nominating it for deletion three times), the editor has also linked to a site he operates. To note, the link was deleted 8 times by 5 editors. Each of those 8 times, it was re-added by User:Bi (operator of linked website). Besides editor being in a COI, the self-promotion link to his site seems to constitute WP:SPAM ..."Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam...” User:Bi is persistent about keeping his website linked into the article. Given that the user is editing an article related to his organization or it’s competitors, COI guidelines seem to suggest that User:Bi should avoid or exercise great caution in linking to his personal website, editing the article or participating in it’s Afd discussions. This is my first time involved in Wikipedia, is this a proper course of action to seek remedy? I hope this is okay. Thanks. 162.40.164.81 00:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
As I am a regular on the COI/N page, I investigated, and found that the spam-ridden site that User:Bi attempted to include was inappropriate, objected to by several other editors, and I removed the link. He has since retaliated, and gone around reverting edits I've made in other articles indiscriminately, and launched personal attacks on me on the talk page of Frank R. Wallace. Can an administrator take action against this disruptive SPA? THF 19:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Railpage Australia – Content dispute, no COI – 07:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Railpage Australia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - Dispute over commerciality amongst other issues. Tezza1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - The user appears to have a COI resulting in overwhelmingly negative and argumentative viewpoints, and seems unwilling to reach consensus. Check the Railpage Australia Talk page for my post detailing the possible conflict of interest on Tezza1. 59.167.89.251 06:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Mr Irresistible – Deleted – 08:33, 21 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Unsourced edits to Mr Irresistible (aka Matthew Ray Hendrickson) plus mentions in other related articles. Disclosed identity here. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr Irresistible is ongoing. Gordonofcartoon 11:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Informatics college – Deleted – 02:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Blatant COI2, so tagged. Bearian 23:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Team D1 – Deleted – 02:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Team member Exhumed seems to be the same as the user. Bearian 23:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| Columbia Non-neutral Torus – Issue resolved – 09:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Creator of the article has the same name as the creator of the device. Bearian 18:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Bearian 18:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Jim Schembri – Deleted – 08:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Both users' only edits are to the article in question. I have tagged the article and warned the users, but I have not touched the article content. Please cleanup or list for deletion, depending on your evaluation, and thank you. Shalom Hello 03:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Eddie Amador – Copyvio – 05:23, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Author claims to be subject's PR agent. -- But|seriously|folks 08:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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| User:70.255.181.93 – Nothing to see here – 05:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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This IP address recently has been adding spam about practice software to various articles. I hate to violate WP:AGF, but I think it is a software company salesperson doing this. I reverted one edit, but don't have the tool or tools to do the whole job. Can a sysop check into this? Bearian 22:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Appalachian Voices – Copyvio, deleted – 09:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Text of article copied from About page on organization website. — Athaenara ✉ 23:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
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| SAC Capital Partners – No COI edits since February, inactive – 08:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Ip address that whois's from SAC Capital Partners has edited the article for SAC Capital Partners and [11] the BLP for the person who runs it. Piperdown 17:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
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| User:Hmartincalle – No edits in 25 days, inactive – 12:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Appears to be H. Martin Calle [12] of Calle & Company [13]. In every article he's edited to date he's added material about himself, his company, or what I assume is a relative. I've notified him of WP:COI and removed some of his edits. --Ronz 17:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Knowledge creation – No mainspace edits in 37 days, inactive; article kept on afd – 11:19, 1 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Knowledgemachine (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), account of Bruce LaDuke of hyperadvance.com / instantinnovation.com recently rewrote Knowledge creation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) in response to a {{prod}}; the new version reads like ad copy from his website. --Piet Delport 19:24, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
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| Zelma Mullins Pattillo – Deleted – 08:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC) |
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User name and article name share a surname. Subject seems notable. Article is a poorly-written orphan. Bearian 01:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Railpage Australia – Resolved – 11:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Railpage - Withdrawal of COIMy last request (28 July) I believe was a definite WP:COI backed up with hard online documentary evidence. I've since been advised I'm not permitted to disclose it under guidelines. If this is the case I'm very surprised and apologize. I have requested that record of that information it is permanently deleted here. If you are an Administrator who has a alternative viewpoint with why I was asked to remove this information, please refer to history for the details before it is permanently deleted and discuss with Administrator [14]. Thank you. Tezza1 22:12, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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ScientologyUser:Bravehartbear made a lot edits to Scientology even though he's a Scientologist, I don't really know the policy (after all, is a Christian allowed to make edits to make edits to Christianity) but if you look at the difference, [15], it's pretty different and I'm technically on a Wikibreak. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 19:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
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I'm seeking "third party evaluation" to the edits made by User:Bravehartbear to Scientology between 02:31, 22 June 2007 and 17:00, 25 June 2007 because I am temporarily not in a position where I can do that. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 22:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with most of the editors here that possible WP:NPOV issues and adherence to any given religious faith aren't sufficient to establish WP:COI issues. That said, I continue to observe troubling aspects in the Scientology discussions at this board and WP:CSN. For example, this edit history demonstrates that the Bravehartbear user page was created six weeks ago by Lsi john with a smiley-face-wink ASCII icon. This creates an appearance of impropriety (per WP:MEAT) when they both come to the same noticeboard a few hours apart to voice similar opinions at the same thread. I repeat my recommendation of mentorship: if these editors are acting in good faith then some coaching would help quell the concerns of impartial observers. DurovaCharge! 05:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
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Paid editing again: http://spam.home.com/An owner of a company is offering $30-$100 to write a Wikipedia article on it. See [16]. Based on the user profile and this (which I found googling the company name and location), I believe the company involved is home / Home / home / Home - can someone pass the salt, please? Their website is http://spam.home.com/ (remove the spam). tech-home.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com Original report on enwiki-l. MER-C 09:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi, can someone please look at the contributions of User:Terry Tolkin. He/She had been adding content (and adjectives such as "legendery") to a number of indie music articles about an A&R man of the same name. I've reverted a number of the edits, but do not want to go on a spree without a second openion. Thanks Ceoil 19:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
All reverted by various editors. We're done here. MER-C 14:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC) |
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apparently affiliated with the organizers of the article subject, has developed a habit of removing content that he doesn't like for some reason, constantly reverting other editors' work. --Latebird 10:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Report→ See also: Special:Linksearch/*.eserver.org
Similar SPAs:
See also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam/2007_Archive_Jun#eserver.org and Wikipedia talk:External links/Archive_17#Links to online libraries. --Ronz 02:56, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Let's put away the torches and pitchforks. This appears to be an electronic library that makes literature available for free to the public. It's sort of like Project Gutenberg. I checked a few of the articles that contain these links, and I did not see an intentional linking campaign. Is see a large number of independent users citing this database from various articles and discussions. Example: [17] An even better example, added by Administrator User:Doc glasgow: [18] Enforcing COI is very important, but I think we need to be more careful to investigate these things fully before jumping to conclusions.
User:Geoffsauer needs a friendly warning. I predict he will behave impeccably once he is informed. Jehochman ☎ / ✔ 06:53, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I started going down the list of 322 links found by this linksearch. As User:Jehochman has correctly observed, some of these links are to individual digitized books in the style of Project Gutenberg. I have no objection to these so long as they are appropriate to the article and are added with local consensus. Other links, such as the one that User:Geoffsauer added to our Technical communication article on in this edit on 28 March 2005, present a directory of links in a style reminiscent of DMOZ. I personally think that Sauer's Eserver link to http://tc.eserver.org should be removed from the Technical communication article, since Wikipedia is not a directory. In fairness, that article probably has more external links than it needs. If anyone has time, I suggest they randomly look at some other items found by the same linksearch and see what they think. This editor doesn't seem to be a bad guy, but the profusion of DMOZ-style directories raises a warning flag. EdJohnston 16:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Edits by this IP are troublesome: 12.216.41.63 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - active May 8 & 18 2007 Shall we send Geoffrey Sauer a friendly email and ask him to look at this thread and explain? If he is using anonymous IP's in a sneaky way to add links, that's a real problem. Jehochman ☎ / ✔ 16:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Link subsetsComment. I shrunk down the original set of 322 links to a more modest 14 links to be studied:
These 14 links provide 'web directories with commentary'. So they may run into the rule that Wikipedia is Not a Directory unless they are really notable enough to deserve articles in their own right. Having articles would require reliable third-parties to have commented on their value. (A couple of the above links are not directories, but actual web periodicals, like http://bad.eserver.org, which is an online journal called 'Bad Subjects'.) I am not sure we should be accepting the above 14 as external links, unless they are notable enough to have their own articles created. Especially we shouldn't keep them if Geoff Sauer is not willing to discuss the situation, because we'd like the Eserver people to acknowledge our policies and agree to cooperate with them. Your comments are welcome. EdJohnston 15:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I read this discussion with interest, though I'm not a skilled Wikipedia user and don't feel qualified to contribute to the policy debate here about external linking. I'll respect your collective judgment about when external links are appropriate, and won't add any more without a clear policy decision that would encourage me to continue. In my judgment I have never added off-topic or poor-quality links to a Wikipedia entry, and would not do so. But I won't post here again, now that I see how my past contributions might be seen as self-serving. To clarify my past intent adding links to entries, as a professor of English with a speciality in technical communication I have edited entries and added links to online resources which I considered appropriate, as I understood it from my research, my reading of Wikipedia guidelines and existing entries. I don't know about an Iowa bias in posts about the EServer, though I do teach as many as 150 students per semester, all of whom use the site, and it may be that my students have posted some EServer-related entries. But I have never meant to injure Wikipedia's neutrality or credibility, and am concerned that anyone might consider my edits to have done so. I'll do my best, however, to answer any questions I can to clarify the reasoning behind any particular edits I have made.Geoffsauer 06:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia's best purpose really is not as a convenient transfer point to draw readers to external sites, whether eserver.org or any other. Can this be dealt with properly? — Athaenara ✉ 10:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Linking continuesThe Special:Linksearch/*.eserver.org count, which was 322 when it was first reported, is now up to 353 - click "(500)" on the linksearch page to see that. — Athaenara ✉ 16:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the blatant spam that was added by the socks on the WTSPAM list. The eserver.org linksearch count is now 256. The {{prod}} tag from the Geoffrey Sauer article was removed by an SPA User:Jefferyev who also added some references. An SPA doing this with such a similar name is suspicious. I hope this doesn't mean that the eserver.org spamming will continue but now in a covert fashion. (Requestion 16:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC))
See also: "Overzealous "linkspam" deletion" section on WP:AN/I. — Athaenara ✉ 21:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I have been reading through these comments in order to understand the nature of the problem. It is extraordinary that an online public scholarship project that provides digitized primary source documents and educational resources on slavery has attracted this sort of attention as a putative link-spammer. While User:Requestion expresses doubt that this project qualifies as a reliable source, quite a few university libraries and teaching faculty have no such doubts. We contributed both links and, where appropriate, text to selected articles on historical writers on slavery, many of them little-known. These are educational and research resources related to and contributing to understanding the biographical articles in which they appear. There are no links to any articles on topics other than the history of slavery. User:Requestion appears to make unilateral decisions on the quality of external links and, despite interventions by User:Moorlock and User:Rbellin, insists that he/she will have final authority in the matter. I find that attitude objectionable too. Those links were made in a spirit of idealistic contribution towards educational resources, and it would contradict that same spirit were there to be a revert war. If there is not a quiet and reasoned resolution here, I would prefer not to link Project resources to Wikipedia articles on slavery. Cheers, --Jlockard 00:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
User:Requestion, unilateralism is poor policy and worse practice. You clearly do not have the consent of a number of users to continue removing links on slavery-related articles, and it would seem wiser to desist and discuss the matter calmly. As for Geoff Sauer, you mistake walking away with contempt for a person's agreement. This is a marvellous way to get users who have an enormous amount to contribute positively to Wikipedia to throw up their hands and leave.--Jlockard 02:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Content and substanceIt is content and substance which make an encyclopedia what it is. Some of the particulars of the policy known as WP:NOT, which developed as a response to many differing perceptions, apply here:
This encyclopedia's external links guideline supports that policy:
For those who wish to add external links to articles, and who do not wish to be involved in developing article content and citing references, the best participation is to post them on the article talk pages with clear explanations of how the links support our encyclopedic purpose. — Athaenara ✉ 04:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
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not sure what to make of these, seems these bios are about fairly accomplished individuals, however if some one can have a look it would be appreciated. //Hu12 05:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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This user has created a bunch of COI articles; I stumbled across one on AFD. The others might deserve a similar fate. Shalom Hello 23:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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If you block me, you need to block everyone who volunteers for the American Cancer Society from editing the Cancer article. You need to block all volunteers period. I have nothing to gain from my association with the MRF. The fact that I write letters in support of my position can't preclude me from editing the article, unless you also preclude Herd (see below) who has an entire website devoted to saying that Morgellons is a mental illness. His website reaches far more people than my letters. The wiki article has for years been very biased towards saying that it is a mental illness and discrediting the MRF. There is growing evidence that Morgellons is not a mental illness. If you look at the history of the article, anyone who tries to edit the article to add the perspective that it is other than a mental illness is harrassed, attacked, and blocked. These editors keep insisting that the article must be biased towards saying that Morgellons is Delusional Parasitosis (DP)because it is "the majority point of view." That is not the case. They primarily rest their case on 3 letters to the editor which were determined to be inappropriate to be included in the article and articles which cite these letters. If you look at the history of Herd and Dyanega, you will see that both of their edits are heavily biased towards DP. They call the idea that Morgellons is not DP "fringe" despite the fact that the California state health department opined that it is not DP, despite the recent statement from the CDC which calls it a disabling, serious disease with multiple systemic symptoms and a growing public health concern. The article should be neutral and present both sides, with a STRONG emphasis on the fact that no one knows for certain what morgellons is, whether it is infectious or contagious, what causes it, how to treat it. Dyanega has strong personal beliefs that it is a mental illness. He is an entomologist and for years entomologists, like him, have been dismissing morgellons sufferers, telling them that they are delusional. If it is found not to be the case, his profession will be discredited as a whole and he could find himself personally subject to lawsuits. Herd of Swine, has devoted the past several years of his life to discrediting the disease and he runs an entire website which is devoted to doing so. www.morgellonswatch.com. If it is found to be an infectious disease, he will be discredited and he may be subject to lawsuits for slander and libel. If I have a conflict of interest and am blocked from this article, these other two editors also do and should also be blocked. They have continously deleted cited material from reliable sources which does not support there position. They do so without making any comments on the discussion page or reaching any consensus, other than between the two of them. I believe that this article should be deleted from wiki entirely until the CDC investigation is complete. It has a very long history of edit wars (many that do not involved me -- anyone who believes that Morgellons is not DP is blocked) and its neutrality and now its factual content are questionable, as posted at the top of the article. If it must remain, I agree that it should be very brief and unbiased. I would happily stop editing this article if Herd and Dyanega are also blocked. It's a huge drain on my time and energy to try to keep this article neutral -- that is why I have reached out the past couple of days to try to find unbiased editors to really look at it. Pez1103 10:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Users Herd of Swine and Dyanega and the Morgellons Article
Dyanega has strong personal beliefs that Morgellons is DP. He is an entomologist and for years has received samples from Morgellons sufferers, and he has examined the samples and determined that they are "textile fibers" based on only a visual examination. (Examination by forensic scientists of these morgellons fibers, however, prove that they are not textile at all.) As an entomologist, he has been dimissing the morgellons sufferers who have sought his professional opinion as delusional for years. If it is found that Morgellons is not delusional, particularly if it is found that there is an unknown parasite involved, he will be personally discredited and he could find himself subject to lawsuits. Herd of Swine, has devoted the past several years of his life to discrediting the disease and he runs an entire website which is devoted to doing so: www.morgellonswatch.com. If it is found to be an infectious disease, he will be discredited and he may be subject to lawsuits for slander and libel. I believe that both editors should be permanently blocked from this article.Pez1103 12:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Where did I make a legal threat? I'm not threatening to sue them. I've never sent anyting to an entomogolist and I don't frequent herd's site. I am just mentioning that they could be affected monetarily if their POV is disproved. I was blocked the first day I started using wiki because I didn't understand any of the rules and didn't realize that I was getting messages on my talk page about the changes I was making. I was immediately unblocked. If you look at the changes made by Herd and Dyanega -- they are predominately to make the article biased toward DOP. It's a fact. Calling me "fanatical" is inappropriate. Pez1103 12:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC) This is an excerpt from the discussion page made by a completely unbiased observer of what happens on the Morgellons article all the time. There is no cooperation, no collaboration. Anyone who does not support the DP theory is subject to personal attacks and bullying. Note the words "unjustified, mean-spirited, hostile prejudice" : "Why so much anger and hostility? Six weeks ago, before I happened upon this article, I had never heard of Morgellons. After reviewing the article, its sources, and this discussion--and some active participation in the discussion--I have one major question: What is it about Morgellons, and its support group the MRF, that inspires so much anger and hostility? What is it about an almost unknown medical condition, that reportedly affects an unknown number of unidentified patients, including children and infants, that makes some editors demand that Wikipedia ruthlessly condemn them as fakers and loonies? I've seldom seen so much bitter, mean-spirited, hostile prejudice, without even a hint of justification for it. Mukrkrgsj 03:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)" That was made on May 6 -- I was not involved with the article at all thenPez1103 12:55, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Please keep your statements to under 200 words, as the propensity for editors to read a comment(s) is inversely proportional to its length. Thanks. MER-C 13:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
This board isn't the place to talk about editing issues on the article as a whole, just about COI. Editors who mainly use their accounts just on one article, are usually suffering from COI. Anyway, the problem on this article is not necessarily COI, IMHO,it is irreconcilable differences which could go to ArbCom in the rare event any admin thought it was a serious enough article to warrant it.:) (this is me, User:Merkinsmum, sorry, doesn't look like I signed earlier)
However, this is a board about COI, not about the content of the article.:) Far from being anti morguellons/pro-scientific fact as Pez claims, often I've seen the article in a state completely POV towards Morguellons being a disease etc. I think there is actually a danger that people reading the article in some of it's incarnations, would start fearing morguellons is a new, extremely dangerous infectious disease effecting thousands of individuals, and get really frightened/misled. Unfortunately there are other editors as devoted to Morguellons as Pez.Merkinsmum 20:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC) P.S. Other pro-Morguellons editors have never been blocked, so Pez's claim they are being censored/their POV suppressed or the blocks are some sort of conspiracy, is not true.Merkinsmum 20:33, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
People should be concerned about the disease. Continued efforts to dismiss it as a mental illness hurt everyone. The CDC has stated that: "Morgellons is an unexplained and debilitating condition that has emerged as a public health concern. Recently, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has received an increased number of inquiries from the public, health care providers, public health officials, Congress, and the media regarding this condition. Persons who suffer from this condition report a range of coetaneous symptoms including crawling, biting and stinging sensations; granules, threads or black speck-like materials on or beneath the skin; and/or skin lesions (e.g., rashes or sores) and some sufferers also report systemic manifestations such as fatigue, mental confusion, short term memory loss, joint pain, and changes in vision. Moreover, some who suffer from this condition appear to have substantial morbidity and social dysfunction, which can include decreased work productivity or job loss, total disability, familial estrangement, divorce, loss of child custody, home abandonment, and suicidal ideation." The CDC further calls this disease an "emerging public health problem."
Administrator determinationRegardless of the merits of the WP:COI question, one thing is clear: Pez1103 has made multiple legal threats.[34][35] I've blocked that account indefinitely on that basis and as a preventative measure I've semiprotected the article for two weeks. DurovaCharge! 22:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC) |
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This user is adding diagrams without proper copyright, and the diagrams contain information presented as fact without a proper source. This looks like it could be a campaign to promote Elliance Inc. The user's contributions are virtually all problematic. Jehochman Hablar 06:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Seeking ClarificationI apologize if my intentions weren’t clear. I was simply trying to add value to the community by sharing our knowledge resources. Please note, I paid special attention to ensure every image coincided with the topic. Our intention by creating these graphics is to help those who are new to SEO better understand entry-level concepts. For verification of our images’ accuracy and authenticity please refer to http://searchengineland.com/lands/search-illustrated.php. Each week our work is featured to help the SEO confused. If you can please assist me in understand what license to post these images under or what posting frequency you feel is appropriate I hope our graphics will become of value to wikipedia users. Thanks, - Jeff— JeffMHoward (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 15:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC).
____ Sounds good, I appreciate your patience in resolving the issue. I will speak with our staff today about this and make sure our ducks are in a row before we post any images. Also I will notify you here once I post a new image and from here out take it one at a time under your lead. - Jeff— JeffMHoward (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 11:55, 9 July 2007 (UTC).
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No new mainspace links. MER-C 12:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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I stumbled across this page while tracking back some vandalism. It looks like there is a lot of vandalism on the page, but it looks like the subject of the article is trying to police the page and is possessive of it. I'd like someone more capable to look at the page and the situation and see if something needs to be done. (The talk pages of some of the article contributors may provide some context, as well.) GargoyleMT 04:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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Herd of SwineI believe that Herd of Swine has a Conflict of Interest which should preclude him from editing the Morgellons disease article. He runs a website devoted to debunking Morgellons disease. He stands to lose a great deal of credibility if the disease is found to be, as the CDC has stated, “a newly emerging public health condition.” He continually violates wiki rules to promote his POV by using weasel words and cherry picking. He makes changes without consensus from people with opposing view points. He jusifies this by saying his is the majority POV, but this is not completely accurate. He should not be allowed to use Wiki as a soap box to promote his propaganda. The fact that he maintains “morgellonwatch” is well known by other editors. Here is a quote from the Morgellons article by another editor to Herd “I - and the other editors- know that you have an endless source of information like this from maintaining your debunking website. I see that you posted this same link on your website today.” I believe that if you review the edits made by Herd, you will see that they are overwhelmingly biased towards saying that the disease is delusional or a mix of existing medical conditions. He consistently uses weasel words and cherry picking to support his position and discredit any statements to the contrary. He does not maintain a NPOV. He is intent on promoting the propaganda from his website. Despite the fact that the CDC has described Morgellons as an debilitating, emerging public health concern; despite the fact that the CDC has reported that an increasing number of health care providers and public health official have contacted the CDC urging them to investigate this disease; and despite the fact that the CDC has received reports of the disease's serious systemic manifestations, he (and a few other editors) are determined to convince wikipedia readers that the disease is delusional. The article is biased. It emphasizes any statements that support the idea that the disease is delusional and minimizes (by weasel words, by their placement in the article) or removes any references that support the idea that it is not (without getting consensus from anyone with an opposing point of view). If you read the discussion page, you will see that anyone who tries to make the article more neutral by adding references that support the idea that the disease is not delusional is bullied and ignored and efforts are made to try to have that person banned from editing. In the words of an unbiased editor who reviewed the article, "I've seldom seen so much bitter, mean-spirited, hostile prejudice [directed at editors who do not believe the disease is delusional], without even a hint of justification for it" see the discussion page). This should not be allowed to continue. The result is an article which has become downright hurtful to patients with this illness.Pez1103 17:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Pez1103 himself has much more of a COI, as he is a volunteer for the Morgellons Research Foundation, the organisation for believers in this disease and an organisation with a stated aim of disseminating their beliefs about it's existence.Merkinsmum 00:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
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--David Shankbone 04:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Since Shankbone can't be bothered to follow WP:COI/N procedures in his harassment, here is the appropriate link:
Compare my edits with his over the last couple of days:
Response I am a highly-regarded editor and you will not find one other editor on this site who will say I have ever wiki-stalked or harassed anyone else. I am a consistent vandal fighter and pretty much every edit I make is substantive. This report on its face raises serious issues that Ted has simply cast away and not even addressed. Ted appears to think that the simple disclosure that he has COI issues means, well, he no longer has COI issues. I have not Wikistalked Ted almost every page (Al Franken, Jackass Number Two, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Artificial controversy, et. al) edits I have made pre-date edits Ted has made, some by months, until I realized he was agenda-pushing with WP:COI problems. My contributions, reputation and edits stand on their own and can be seen in my edit summaries and my User page. --David Shankbone 04:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment This is the third time the pattern I described above for the Competition law page is being repeated, by these two apparent partners: Ted and Luke. They both fit the definition of trolls in my view; since I posted the message above on this COI page, you can see that nobody has done any work to the Competition law page to make it a properly readable article. The only intention of these people seems to me to come in, trash others' work, stick up a load of notices about neutrality etc and then move to another place on Wikipedia where more accusations of hippie tree hugging can be thrown about. This kind of practice represents a kind of organised and politically motivated attack on the flow of information. It is worse than common vandalism. The epilogue to the story on the Competition law page since the users' edits (which mainly involved cutting referenced material), which I've just checked for the first time in a month, is that the most recent comment, lo and behold, is "this looks like it has been written by Cheney". Wikidea 11:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Most of the issues raised in this thread sound like ordinary editor disputes rather than COI issues. The only potential COI involved here is the mention by User:THF (Ted) of an article that he wrote. If, as THF states, he has not cited this article in any article but has simply mentioned it on talkpages as a resource that other editors might or might not choose to employ, I believe his edits are consistent with policy. As I had to do in a prior thread involving this user, I also feel compelled to strongly warn all editors against making personal attacks, even against those who have different ideological backgrounds or make edits they disagree with. Newyorkbrad 17:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC) The latest revelation Other editors may be interested in this edit of User:TedFrank on the Conflict of Interest noticeboard - Wikipedia_talk:Conflict_of_interest#Nutshell_Take_Two - where he appears to be changing the rules on Conflict of interests! Wow, that's pretty bold editting don't you think! In light of that, I'm not sure that Newyorkbrad's quite right! It's not just edits that people disagree with, it seems to be more or a messianic campaign than anything else. Or, as I said before, being a troll. And quite frankly, I'm not interested in any more of his silly replies, like the one above. Wikidea 19:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
(Why would my employer care about the thousands of edits I do for vandal control?) Would you like my single-spaced quarterly report listing the projects I'm worked on over the last four months and will work on for my employer over the next two years where the word Wikipedia doesn't appear once? Editing Wikipedia is an economically irrational hobby that costs me money: it's time I could spend trying to find additional $450/hour outside consulting gigs, writing free-lance stuff, or playing poker. Ripe has been warned multiple times about baseless personal attacks, and the repeated accusations after denials despite a lack of evidence violates WP:AGF at a minimum. Does WP:NPA mean anything? Two administrators have already rejected Ripe's COI allegations, and he's still attacking me under the false guise of "investigating COI", and now he's WP:STALKing me and reverting edits I make indiscriminately. THF 22:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC) Okay, can everyone please just calm down and stop the mudslinging, which seems to be coming from both directions (or should that be all directions?) as it really doesn't help anyone try to get an objective impression of what's going on. SamBC(talk) 22:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Unless there is a good reason to the contrary offered in the next 24 hours, I'm inclined to close and archive this thread, after deleting some of the more vitriolic personal attacks contained in it. Wikiidea, in particular, please review WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL before posting further about this matter. Thank you. Newyorkbrad 02:28, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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| Joseph Di Virgilio – 3 articles deleted – 08:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC) |
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It appears that User:Jdivirgilio is Joseph Di Virgilio. The IP 66.9.131.70 could be either of the two founders, but most likely it is Roland A. Jansen. This account along with the ip's are SPA's, and have no other edits out side this topic. Joseph Di Virgilio is managing partner and Co-Founder along with Roland A. Jansen of Juno Mother Earth Asset Management. I have tagged the userpages and the articles. These may require deletion. --Hu12 05:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juno Mother Earth Asset Management. The founders seem plausibly notable. As for the IPs, COI is
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| User:Frater FiatLux – Duplicate issue, see below – 10:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC) |
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User is a member of the latter order. He's been asked to suggest changes on the talk pages but refuses. He has been reverting to months old versions authored by himself, reverting many intermediate changes and improvements. An example of his COI, he keeps moving his own order to the top of alphabetically ordered lists. He also attempts to bias legal information in favor of his order. Another thing he is doing is asserting "worldwide" scope of his order without any third party supporting references. He has a history of edit warring over these things, showing up every few months to revert to his chosen version. IPSOS (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
What is rally going on here is that Wikipedia is being manipulated by user, IPSOS, and dragged into a 15 year legal conflict betw een esoteric orders. (see Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Inc. below on this page). IPOS, vandalized the page of the other party for two months before getting their page cancelled. IPSOS has admitted acquaintance with the president of HOGD,Inc. Any time that any editor has appeared favorable of the other party, he has subverted Wikipedia 3RR ruless, by falsely accusing all opposition of sock puppetry and reverting ad infinitum. He even accused me of being a puppet which I am not. He managed to silence all opposition, including getting User Fiat Lux banned without any justification, just in time to hold kangaroo court in a deletions discussion of the other party's page. That Wikipedia is allwoing itself to be used as an advertising forum for HOGD, Inc. is shameful and allowing HOGD, Inc., of which user IPSOS is a clear agent, to misreprsent a 15 year old legal conflict and to deprive one party of its legal rights.--Rondus 13:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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| Mr Grant – No COI – 11:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Possible Conflict of Interest Concerning David Gow (Mr Grant)David Gow is the Seattle contact for Citizens for Personal Rapid Transit (CPRT)[39] Mr. Gow also maintains several websites, blogs that promote Personal Rapid Transit (PRT) and moderates a Seattle PRT web forum. All this activity alone constitutes a conflict of interest for his editing of Personal Rapid Transit. I have asked if David Gow (Mr Grant) if he has received payment for promoting Personal Rapid Transit and if so, who has paid him... He will not say whether he is paid or not[40]. David Gow has made many edits on the Personal Rapid Transit page. I request that David Gow be advised not to edit Personal Rapid Transit unless he reveals whether he has been paid for his extensive public relations work to promote Personal Rapid Transit on the web and in the media.....Avidor 22:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Grant may have a conflict of interest, but it goes to far to build a complaint around the innocuous and widely spaced edits here. If he wants to avoid all potential for future misunderstanding he can confine himself to the article talk page. I will not, however, issue a warning since this is all helpful and straightforward contribution. He did do more on the page before this year, but that's ancient history in wikitime. Recommend to ATren a formal withdrawal of the insult. Since it was made a full year and a half ago I won't issue a warning there either. Please open an article content WP:RFC to settle any topical disputes on the page. DurovaCharge! 00:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
That's your opinion ATE and since you and Mr Grant cooperate on and off Wikipedia [43], you are in no position to judge...Avidor 01:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Note: moved to bottom of page, where it belongs. MER-C 13:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Whatever...Avidor 18:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC) I just wanted to say Thanks to Durova and Atren for their balanced, objective and (above all) FACT-based approach to Avidor's charge against me of "possible" COI. You both spent a lot of time on what was clearly a (poorly designed) fishing expedition, and while I never doubted what the eventual outcome would be, I am nonetheless appreciative of the finding. --Mr Grant 18:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Having made quite a study of the COI guidelines recently (feel free to check my contribs), I can say that, of the listed edits by Mr Grant, only one could possibly have been a COI violation simply because the others were non-controversial edits, explicitly allowed without any declaration under the guideline. The one remaining edit might've warranted a COI declaration and following of the recommended procedure (if there is any COI), but it seems to have been overall noncontroversial as well. Given the lack of COI-relevant impact of the edits, there is no reason to consider potential COI, and no reason not to assume good faith on the part of Mr Grant. SamBC(talk) 03:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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→ See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jon A Greenspon - article about a presidential candidate - written by himself, with a clearly spammy username: Greenspon2008 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). The Evil Spartan 18:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
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| Richard Rossi – Blocked, indefinitely – 12:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC) |
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This article has been on WP:BLPN a few times. Those issues are now marked closed. It has been recently brought to my attention that one of the disputants is probably the same Jack Bernstein who is associated with the film company who issued this press release, making this editor an interested party in the article. I thought I should notify this board. - Crockspot 04:14, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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The page Baoli notes appears to be corporate vanity, all edits with content having been made by User:Baolim. This user removed tags indicating that content appeared to be plagarized and all other tags put on the page, although they have now also removed most content. Eran of Arcadia 14:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC) |
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