Module talk:gl-verb

Irregular verbs

@MedK1 IMO, <i-e> alternations and the like should not by themselves cause a verb to be considered as irregular; and I think this applies even more strongly to Spanish o-ue and e-ie alternations and such. Yes, these alternations aren't predictable but they feel in a different class from true irregularities like fiz/fez of fazer in Portuguese. That's why I created separate categories for these classes of verbs. Benwing2 (talk) 22:26, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

@Benwing2: I agree, but the thing is that they're traditionally considered "irregular" under pretty much any dictionary/grammatical source for both Spanish and Portuguese.[1][2][3]. Oddly enough, I can't really find similar affirmations for Galician. This source says "partially irregular" and I was able to find mentions of "semirregular" verbs, but I'm not positive that's an 'official' classification. This website implies "partially irregular" verbs are considered irregular, though, as it states irregular verbs are ones that 'present variations in their stem or in one of the vowels in their paradigm'. Either way, seeing the precedents with Spanish, Portuguese, and other Romance languages, it'd make the most sense to consider them to be irregular here rather than regular. MedK1 (talk) 02:09, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

@MedK1 My main concern is that if we categorize them simply under Category:Portuguese irregular verbs, they will swamp the category and make it non-useful. What do you think instead of putting the vowel-alternation categories as subcategories of Category:Portuguese irregular verbs etc.? That way they are still considered as "irregular" but the actual category for irregular verbs only contains the true irregular ones. An alternative is to categorize them as something like Category:Portuguese lightly irregular verbs, which would be a subcategory of Category:Portuguese irregular verbs; or to put them under Category:Portuguese irregular verbs but create an additional category Category:Portuguese true irregular verbs for the ones with the more unpredictable irregularities. Benwing2 (talk) 03:01, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

@Benwing2: I like the first solution, making them subcategories of Category:Portuguese irregular verbs and keeping 'true irregulars' as-is. It's perfect to me! MedK1 (talk) 03:12, 8 December 2023 (UTC)