Disney acquires 21st Century Fox

[-JKR-]

Originally Posted by John1701D

Please tell me exactly what "I laugh at the concept of people who watch Friends in the 2020s" means then.

The ignore button has made my time on this forum much, much better. In some cases it's mandatory.

[garyd97]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

That goes for pretty much everything, tho.



Disney is actually still a hugely profitable company. Part of the thing about starting a new division (same as starting a new business altogether) is that in order to set it up and make it grow, you need to invest in it before it can start yielding profits. If setting up a new business was free, then everyone would be doing it.

Obviously was referring to Disney + and not Disney as a company with my comment. Disney + has been going almost 3 years now, and continue to bleed more and more money. The only way to become profitable in 2024 is to significantly raise prices without losing subscriptions, or significantly cut back new programming without losing subscriptions. They are not going to do it on subscriber growth alone.

[BluBonnet]

Time will tell.

[mwynn]

Disney+ revenue in 2020 was 2.6 billion.
2021 was 5.2 billion.

Most of thier losses are probably in infactructure.

[Jennifer Lawrence Fan]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Disney now owns the original Buffy film, which canonically makes Buffy a Disney Princess

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

No, that would be I Love Lucy.

The Honeymooners begs to differ.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by garyd97

Obviously was referring to Disney + and not Disney as a company with my comment. Disney + has been going almost 3 years now, and continue to bleed more and more money. The only way to become profitable in 2024 is to significantly raise prices without losing subscriptions, or significantly cut back new programming without losing subscriptions. They are not going to do it on subscriber growth alone.

That's why the ad tier is coming, and that's why Disney owns all their content. No licensing headaches. I'm reminded of Walt justifying spending on Disneyland when it first opened. He had planted all these trees and said they're going to grow -- we're going to continue adding to the park -- it will just get more beautiful every year. The money that's been spent on new content isn't going anywhere. That library is going to continue to grow, might even be a generational keystone. Bigger library, more legacy content, more Fox titles as their licensing deals expire. Just going to grow.

Kenobi cost something like $90 million, it's Disney's forever...Netflix paid far more than that just to keep Friends for one year. And now Poof! Gone.

[John1701D]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

The Honeymooners begs to differ.

Three's Company begs to differ.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

That's why the ad tier is coming, and that's why Disney owns all their content. No licensing headaches. I'm reminded of Walt justifying spending on Disneyland when it first opened. He had planted all these trees and said they're going to grow -- we're going to continue adding to the park -- it will just get more beautiful every year. The money that's been spent on new content isn't going anywhere. That library is going to continue to grow, might even be a generational keystone. Bigger library, more legacy content, more Fox titles as their licensing deals expire. Just going to grow.

They have the biggest library...

[Deadend45]

So I will be able to watch Beyond the Valley of the Dolls on Disney+?

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by Deadend45

So I will be able to watch Last Tango in Paris on Disney+?

Amazon owns United Artists.

[Deadend45]

Fox released a BD of Last Tango in Paris in Canada.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by Deadend45

Fox released a BD of Last Tango in Paris in Canada.

Fox had distribution rights to MGM titles in the US and Canada before the Disney buyout finalized. Afterwards, MGM transferred distribution to Warner and Universal got new to video releases.

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by Deadend45

So I will be able to watch Beyond the Valley of the Dolls on Disney+?

Hulu...maybe

[mwynn]

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...eptember-long/

[mwynn]

From Sept. 8-19, AMC will screen Disney films like Encanto, Rogue One, Cars and Thor: Ragnarok, with $5 tickets. Buyers of those tickets will get a Disney+ poster, and a concession discount. Disney also extended its offer with Uber, giving Disney+ subscribers 6 free months of Uber One.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...4c9ce9541f3e30

[mwynn]

�Doctor Who� Heading to Disney+ in Landmark Streaming Deal
All new seasons of the BBC's cult favorite � including those with incoming Doctor Who Ncuti Gatwa � will stream exclusively on Disney+ outside the U.K. and Ireland.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...0f0740c6f56c40

[mwynn]

Bob Iger: Disney Will Reduce Costs On Films, TV Shows to Focus On Quality, Not Volume
"It comes in the form of reducing the expense per content, whether it's a TV series or a film, where costs have just skyrocketed," the Disney chief told an investor conference.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...0f0740c6f56c40

[Wummyhulk]

When Bob Iger steps down again, I hope the next CEO of Disney does a better job.

[Ernest Rister]

Thank God. Did Walt's ghost visit Iger? I know most film studios are run by people who are businessmen first who never got their hands dirty working on a shoot, but Walt had made over 100 short productions before ever beginning the Mickey years. He was over the moon watching Steamboat Willie come together (and had probably had a few drinks) when he shouted, "This is it! We're gonna kill them with quality!" Meaning making the brand stand for something, something novel and unique and the best in animated entertainment. That ethic worked, big time. Walt and Roy took the profits from the Mickey shorts and put them right back into R&D, experimentation, codifying discoveries so they could be shared and learned from and progress further, eventually paying the highest salaries in animation to lure top talent and train new talent. The public responded, the films got better, the techniques more advanced...Walt went from Steamboat Willie to Snow White in something like 108 months.

Quality. How the studio's various leaderships post-Walt ever forgot that lesson is, frankly, bizarre. Watching Disney+ last year was like eating a tainted burrito, and it's going to take time to vacate the resulting Chapek diarrhea out of the studio bowels.