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=== Wikimedians of Slovakia's Annual Report 2018 === |
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Basically the same report, in 2 languages: |
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* [[Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/en]] ([[Special:PermaLink/19643306|original version]]) |
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* [[Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/sk]] ([[Special:PermaLink/19816639|original version]]) |
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The text below is from the English version. The Slovak version have the same issue, with even stronger wording. |
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The report contains false and libelled information about me (Michal Matúšov). The organisation haven't reacted on Meta for 7 months; private consultation (regarding the file on WMSK's website) is ongoing. The false, libelled information is in the section "Board changes" and texts "Michal Matúšov resigned his position as well as his membership in the organization on 20 December 2018. As a result, Radoslava Semanová, the deputy chair, became the only board member able to act in the name of the organization. However, she was staying abroad at the time. Accordingly, the board asked Michal Matúšov to register the organization for 2%. The then chair asked for a 100 euro reward for such action. The board, knowing the potential outcome of the 2% registration accepted it." More information on the topic is on the [[Talk:Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/en]]. |
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See also [[:c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:WMSK – Výročná správa 2018.pdf]]. |
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--[[User:KuboF Hromoslav|KuboF Hromoslav]] ([[User talk:KuboF Hromoslav|talk]]) 19:05, 3 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:I will only add that the matter has been brought to the attention of AffCom. WMSK and I personally have been supportive of this inquiry and we have offered all the necessary information and explanation to AffCom. I hope you, KuboF, have done the same. Be well!--[[User:Jetam2|Jetam2]] ([[User talk:Jetam2|talk]]) 14:14, 4 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:: Just a correction: WMSK, Jetam2 personally and ex-member of Audit Committee [[User:Luky001|Lukas Mikulec]] was in fact very unsupportive of this inquiry. During 7 months they made absolutely no reaction on [[Talk:Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/en]] nor on [[Talk:Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/sk]], during more than 1 month no reaction on the [[:c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:WMSK – Výročná správa 2018.pdf|original RfD]] and even was [[Special:Diff/20190031|covering-up]] the falseness of the information in the report. Good to know that this is the "support" that WMSK is providing for the Wikimedia movement... |
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:: But back to the topic: The report spreads false and libelled information about living person for 5 months. I again ask admins for deletion. --[[User:KuboF Hromoslav|KuboF Hromoslav]] ([[User talk:KuboF Hromoslav|talk]]) 19:36, 4 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:::I (and we) do not believe it is best practice to keep reacting and rereacting and rerereacting. Issues in the reports and others have been explained many a time on sk.wikipedia where they were first raised. See, especially [[:sk:Wikipédia:Kaviareň/Wikimedia Slovensko|here]]. There comes a point where more explanation will not advance anything. That is why we welcome AffCom's interest into the matter. Let AffCom judge our participation in the inquiry.--[[User:Jetam2|Jetam2]] ([[User talk:Jetam2|talk]]) 20:26, 4 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:::: [[User:Jetam2|Jetam2]], please keep this discussion on topic - its topic is the concrete report ([[Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/en]], [[Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/sk]]), not ''any'' report (I am also not going to write here about bylaw violation of WMSK's functionaries here, simple because it would be off-topic...). I have raised objections about this specific issue on [[Talk:Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/en]] and [[Talk:Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2018/sk]] but functionaries of WMSK was only covering up the issue without solving it. As the report is spreading false and libelled information about living person for more than half a year, I ask admins to proceed the request for deletion. --[[User:KuboF Hromoslav|KuboF Hromoslav]] ([[User talk:KuboF Hromoslav|talk]]) 10:48, 5 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::::: I wish you took your own advice and not spread libelous information about a cover up etc. In any case, I now understood that the chronology was indeed reversed. I corrected it.--[[User:Jetam2|Jetam2]] ([[User talk:Jetam2|talk]]) 12:14, 5 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:::::: Please refer to the report discussion page.--[[User:Jetam2|Jetam2]] ([[User talk:Jetam2|talk]]) 13:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC) |
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[[User:KuboF Hromoslav|KuboF Hromoslav]], would it help to just replace your real name with your username for now? (While as I understand other people are still figuring out what is going on). It definitely does not look constructive to delete the whole report. --[[User:Base|Base]] ([[User talk:Base|talk]]) 23:26, 12 August 2020 (UTC) |
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: This may sound usable at a glance, but it introduces another problem. The text presented is an official document. Changing its content without clear decision of the Generally Assembly would break its integrity. As a, not the best, compromise I have emptied the page and put up into the listing direct link to the original version. Hopefully admins can delete it quickly and WMSVK correct it officially so the document will contain only truthful information. --[[User:KuboF Hromoslav|KuboF Hromoslav]] ([[User talk:KuboF Hromoslav|talk]]) 14:24, 28 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:: Blanking is hardly a compromise. For more information, I [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedians_of_Slovakia/Reports/2018/en&diff=prev&oldid=20414608 added] a longer explanation of the contexts. Thanks!--[[User:Jetam2|Jetam2]] ([[User talk:Jetam2|talk]]) 18:15, 1 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Can I exactly know what is the basis of deletion? I really can't follow this discussion even after reading several times. Thanks much, willing to do what is needed. [[User:Camouflaged Mirage|Camouflaged Mirage]] ([[User talk:Camouflaged Mirage|talk]]) 10:35, 1 October 2020 (UTC) |
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::::{{re|Camouflaged Mirage}} Took me a bit to unravel this as well. As I understand it {{U|KuboF Hromoslav}} has alleged that the report contains false and defamatory information, which is specified in the nomination statement. This has been disputed by {{U|Jetam2}}. In any event I've added my thoughts below, but what is really needed is an investigation by AffCom or whoever is responsible for sorting out these disputes. <span style="background-color:#EEE; font-size: 1.2em; padding:.15em .45em;"><b>[[User:Quantocius_Quantotius|<span style="color:#800000;">𝒬</span>]][[User_Talk:Quantocius_Quantotius|<span style="color:#800000;">𝔔</span>]]</b></span> 21:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC) |
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{{Comment}}, the essential question here is whether the section is defamatory as alleged. If so then deletion is appropriate as we should not host libel, or at the very least the offending section would need to be removed and previous versions revision deleted. If not however, an official report certainly fails within meta's [[Meta:inclusion policy|inclusion policy]]. <span style="background-color:#EEE; font-size: 1.2em; padding:.15em .45em;"><b>[[User:Quantocius_Quantotius|<span style="color:#800000;">𝒬</span>]][[User_Talk:Quantocius_Quantotius|<span style="color:#800000;">𝔔</span>]]</b></span> 21:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC) |
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:::::Thank you for your work on this. AffCom is looking into it and WMSK is cooperating as requested and required. Be well!--[[User:Jetam2|Jetam2]] ([[User talk:Jetam2|talk]]) 02:11, 20 October 2020 (UTC) |
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:::::Shall we defer to Affcom decision? I think there are members on Affcom who have rights to delete pages here, shall we let them do the necessary? [[User:Camouflaged Mirage|Camouflaged Mirage]] ([[User talk:Camouflaged Mirage|talk]]) 17:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC) |
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:::::::{{reply to|Camouflaged Mirage}} yes, '''defer to AffCom''' is my current position on this in a nutshell. I guess we'll have to wait and see if any other independent observers feel differently. <span style="background-color:#EEE; font-size: 1.2em; padding:.15em .45em;"><b>[[User:Quantocius_Quantotius|<span style="color:#800000;">𝒬</span>]][[User_Talk:Quantocius_Quantotius|<span style="color:#800000;">𝔔</span>]]</b></span> 17:07, 25 October 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Deferred to Affcom''' - the meta administrator team had discussed about this issue at length, we cannot determine unilaterally what the best cause of action here. I had send an email to Affcom just a while ago today regarding this issues, and will be willing to help implement their determinations. With respect to the pages, it will stay fully protected per consensus among sysops and we will review the protection again when Affcom get back to us. [[User:Camouflaged Mirage|Camouflaged Mirage]] ([[User talk:Camouflaged Mirage|talk]]) 19:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Note: Please do not archive this section in order for Affcom to access this discussion easily. Thanks much. [[User:Camouflaged Mirage|Camouflaged Mirage]] ([[User talk:Camouflaged Mirage|talk]]) 14:20, 17 February 2021 (UTC) |
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{{Section resolved|1={{ping|Camouflaged Mirage}} its been long enough Affcom can use a permalink if they want to. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)}} |
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:Deleted. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:39, 29 March 2021 (UTC) |
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This is an outdated translation request, when there wasn’t Translate extension. I don’t know what to do with actual translations, but I think they can be deleted too; do you agree? --Pols12 (talk) 22:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Any reason it can't be marked "historical" or "archived" and leave it as is? Why does it has to be deleted? — regards, Revi 07:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- The only page which links to this page is Translation requests/Guidelines for future chapters/status which has no related page.
- However, I have looked at some other old Translation requests, there seem to have several practises:
- target page was the /source page; when ready, it has been moved, so /source is now only a redirection.
- target page content is copied into /source page.
- target page was transcluded in /source, then it may have been updated to use Translate extension, so /source unexpectedly displays translate tags.
- I don’t know what was the usual policy regarding translation requests. Very few pages include Template:Translation source: were the other ones deleted? Pols12 (talk) 14:15, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keen to just mark it as historical/archived per -revi. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:58, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- So I tagged it with {{archive}}. I think this discussion may be closed. --Pols12 (talk) 22:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keen to just mark it as historical/archived per -revi. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:58, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why RFL pages need translation, anyway, this project is already existing. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:21, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Plus all translations (subpages).
Imported from Wikiversity to use Translate tool (which was finally not used). It is still available on Wikiversity, and fully translated to English there. No page has linked to it on Meta. --Pols12 (talk) 18:30, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- If it's an exact duplicate of the Wikiversity one, then I think it can be deleted. Leaderboard (talk) 18:36, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes That's OK for me and Sorry about forfoted to ask it my self... Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 20:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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