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How long will Newspapers.com be unavailable?

It has shown the statement "temporarily unavailable" for a few days now. Might have been earlier, but I only recently came back to heavy editing. That was a gem and I'd love to be able to use it again. Thank you! Fortunaa (talk) 17:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Here to ask the same. About 6 weeks, is a long outage. -- GreenC (talk) 06:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

@Fortunaa and GreenC: Please see my update at T322916#10036209. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

No access to the journals of the "Royal Society of Chemistry" (RSC)

I should currently have access to the Royal Society of Chemistry (RSC) Gold collection including several scientific journals - as also indicated on my Wikipedia Library landing page. When I attempted to access an article published in the RSC journal "Energy and Environmental Science" that should be included, I could not access the content, i.e., the content was beyond the paywall. Are there any known changes or problems? Kind regards, Espresso robusta (talk) 19:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

@Espresso robusta Thanks for the heads up, looks like our access has lapsed. Unfortunately we haven't heard from our contact there in a little while so I'm not sure how quickly this will be resolved, but we'll do what we can. I'll flag this access issue in the library for other users. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:05, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your efforts! Best wishes, Espresso robusta (talk) 18:30, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

On the bright side, that journal has a 25 % open access preservation rate, vs. a 15 % average for RSC, so you might have good luck by using Unpaywall in your browser. :) Nemo 20:24, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Samwalton9 (WMF) I set this up when I was Wikimedian in Residence there. Would you like me to reach out to my contacts? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:29, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Access problem with De Gruyter

Access to the De Gruyter collection seems to be interrupted, since approx. 27. August 2023. De Gryuter indicates, that an "internal server error" did occur. This only happens when using EZProxy. So this seems to be related to an internal change at De Gruyter breaking access over EZProxy. Flyingfischer (talk) 07:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Problem with FindMyPast

I have trouble with getting access to FindMyPast. I was approved in May, but did not get any access code for two months. Complaining in the application's discussion did not get any replies whatsoever. I finally made a renewal application in July and did get an access code, but it did not work. I did exactly as instructed: I created an account with FindMyPast, logged in, then went to https://www.findmypast.co.uk/voucher, entered the code as instructed and clicked Submit. As a result, I only got an error message saying "The voucher code entered doesn't seem to be working." Two more complaints, but no reply. So I made another renewal application. Got the code yesterday, tried to redeem it today, again did exactly as instructed (see above), and got the same error message "The voucher code entered doesn't seem to be working."

Something must be fundamentally wrong here. But what? Why does this not work? I've gained access to some other sites through the Wikipedia Library, and those always worked. Rosenzweig (talk) 16:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

@Rosenzweig We've been having a number of problems with BNA and Findmypast voucher codes unfortunately, including having them all revoked and reinstated with a new batch. You're not the only one facing issues with Findmypast at the moment, so we're in contact with them again to investigate. Apologies for the confusion, there's only so much we can do when Findmypast keep telling us things should be working! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:48, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Samwalton9 Any news about this? I just found out today that I can't access newspapers.com anymore as well, so the "Wikipedia Library" experience is rather negative for me at the moment :-( --Rosenzweig (talk) 22:23, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

@Rosenzweig I'm frustrated about all the problems at the moment too. In terms of Findmypast/BNA the situation is potentially turning out to be more complicated than anticipated so we're trying to sort through this to provide clear information to folks. The Newspapers.com issue is being tracked at T322916. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:38, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

The British Newspaper Archive

Applied for access to this and was just granted, thanks, but I'm having trouble accessing the collection; searches work ok but when I try to click on hits it redirects me to a page inviting me to make an account. Am I doing something wrong? Espresso Addict (talk) 23:58, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict Did you receive an email from us with instructions on how to redeem your voucher code? It seems a number of users have been either missing these or not receiving them for some reason. Could you check your spam folder if you don't see it in your inbox? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:10, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Samwalton9 (WMF) -- Ah, found e-mail, activated voucher but it still seems to only be offering me the 3 free articles that go with its basic free login? Espresso Addict (talk) 17:51, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict Hm, that's odd. We're just trying to clarify how these codes should work with BNA because they recently told us they should be activated via the Subscribe page instead, but that seems to require entering payment information. We'll update when we know more. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:32, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

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@Samwalton9 (WMF): I can suddenly no longer access BNA articles, even though my WL profile says my BNA access doesn't expire until 28-Oct-2024. I get a message telling me I have to pay for a subscription. Muzilon (talk) 03:31, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

ProQuest

While searching the ProQuest database earlier today, I encountered the following error: "Available Product Permission Error. An error has been detected in the configuration of the account's product permissions. This is an error in the ProQuest account setup; please contact your library to report this error or contact ProQuest Customer Support to correct this issue." I also noticed that when I click "Access collection" from my Wikipedia Library home page, my browser no longer navigates to the ProQuest site; instead it says "This site can't be reached". Sunnya343 (talk) 06:07, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Now tracked at task T350303. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:49, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

I tried to reach a book digitized by the Royal Library Copenhagen and got We're sorry, your institution doesn't have access to this article through ProQuest. ProQuest seems the only way for non-residents of Denmark to access the digitized collections of the Royal Library. Could the ProQuest subscription be amended? --concord (talk) 14:38, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library now available as a link in Google Scholar

A quick announcement that you can now add The Wikipedia Library as a link from Google Scholar results! This should match our holdings and send you through the library's proxy, so if you find a result in Scholar that's in the library, you can get quick and direct access to it.

1. Go to https://scholar.google.com/ while logged in to a Google account.
2. Click the hamburger menu in the top corner and click Settings
3. In the 'Library links' menu, search for Wikipedia
4. Check the box next to "The Wikipedia Library - The Wikipedia Library"
5. Click Save.
6. You should now see "The Wikipedia Library" links next to applicable search results.

One minor issue with this is that the first screen you'll end up on from the results page will usually error, and you need to click the "open the page in a new window" link at the top. We're looking into this to see if we can resolve the problem. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 16:50, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Do those links take precedence over open access links like scholar.archive.org? If so this sounds like a regression. Nemo 07:09, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I've checked myself: in at least one case, they didn't (before and after). Nemo 07:15, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

It looks like the error I noted in my first message has now been fixed. Please let me know if it reoccurs. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 17:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

OCLC Classify is being discontinued

I have been using the OCLC Classify service to add OCLC work identifiers to books on Wikidata. Today I read at https://classify.oclc.org/classify2/ that "Classify is being discontinued on 31 January 2024." Is there any plan to give Wikidata editors access to one of the replacement services to find OCLC work identifiers? Daask (talk) 18:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

@Daask Thanks for bringing this up - we'll look into it. Has this been discussed anywhere on Wikidata in a way that I could get a sense of how important this is? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:30, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

May need a bot

I found out that when we use newspapers.com as a source we should create a clipping and link to it. However, when I did that, JPxG corrected my link. I asked this person what the procedure was and got no response. But if I copy the link to the clipping directly, I am asked to sign in, and I guess the objective is to allow anyone, signed in or not, to see the clipping.Vchimpanzee (talk) 22:24, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

See en:w:Wikipedia:NEWSPAPERSDESCHMUTZ; www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org should be changed to newspapers.com. The proxy link doesn't let people view the clippings unless they're logged into TWL and have active n.com subscriptions, so while it's still possible to cite them, it's far less helpful. The browser extension I wrote to cite these pages fixes these URLs automatically, and otherwise there's an AWB script (at the deschmutz link). JPxG (talk) 22:33, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm getting "syntax error". Also, what do I do with the script?Vchimpanzee (talk) 23:03, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Generally speaking you should never use any of the links coming from The Wikipedia Library, unless you suspect the URL itself is citable (as opposed to the work it carries). See also, for the English Wikipedia, w:en:Wikipedia:Citing sources#Convenience links and w:en:Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Say where you read it. Nemo 07:01, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

But we are asked to provide a link to the clipping.Vchimpanzee (talk) 17:06, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

If you cite a proxied link on the English Wikipedia I believe Citation bot should come along and correct it - elsewhere you should ideally cite non-proxied links in the first place. I appreciate that's unfortunately a cumbersome process. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

How exactly do I do that once I create a clipping?Vchimpanzee (talk) 17:18, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Two options:

1. After making clippings within the library, navigate to newspapers.com outside of the library, log in to your Newspapers.com account, and go to your clippings and copy the URL(s) from there.
2. As JPxG explained above - change www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org in the URL to newspapers.com.

Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:46, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

TLS

I'd hoped to be able to access the TLS (formerly the Times Literary Supplement) via Gale, but apparently it's not available there. Or am I missing something? Muzilon (talk) 03:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Muzilon We're not sure on this one - I believe we do have some TLS content in Gale, but it's possible that they don't aggregate recent content due to an embargo. Often times these aggregators only have content up to some number of years ago. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia Library emails are currently broken

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T347512

This is a quick notice to let you know that Wikipedia Library email notifications are not currently working as intended. You may not receive emails such as application approvals or access instructions until the issue is resolved. We will endeavour to manually re-send emails on a regular basis but apologise if the service isn't reliable over the coming weeks. We're exploring some other options for notifying users, such as using Echo notifications and directing users towards information in the library, and we'll let you know when we have opportunities for input into those potential solutions.

If you have any questions or expected to receive an email that you didn't, please let me know. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:36, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Unable to validate login credentials

When I try to search the library, I get the error message:

We are unable to validate your login credentials. Please contact your institution for assistance. Please note, Referring URL authentication may have been prevented by antivirus or privacy control software. [Authentication Error Code 103]

at https://search-ebscohost-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/login.aspx?bquery=Foo&lang=en&custid=ns253359&groupid=main&profid=eds&scope=site&site=eds-live&direct=true&authtype=url

I have tried disabling Privacy Badger, to no effect. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Sorry you're facing this issue. Just to understand fully - are you navigating to https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/, then searching in the bar at the top? If not could you tell me the steps you're going through to search. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:12, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): Highlighting text on page (say "Foo") and using a browser plugin that opens a tab with the URL https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/search/?q=Foo Manually opening a tab end entering the same URL gives an identical result.

However, if I use the method you describe, I am redirected to https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/users/my_library/ and if I search using the field there I get the same error, albeit at https://search-ebscohost-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/login.aspx?custid=ns253359&groupid=main&profid=eds&scope=site&site=eds-live&direct=true&authtype=url&lang=en-gb&bquery=Foo Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:22, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Do you have any other privacy extensions installed? The software checks the referring URL (i.e. what page you came from) to verify you are able to use search, but some privacy extensions block this information. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 16:27, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): I do (I'm using Firefox), but neither whitelisting the sites nor disabling the add-ons makes any difference. I've also tried deleting cookies. I can search without issue in a different browser. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:52, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Unfortunately I'm unable to reproduce the issue in a newly-installed Firefox. I've filed T353868 in case other users report the same issue. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Unsafe security certificate

Since at least 3 months I'm unable to access JSTOR and some other collections (gale) because my antivirus blocks the access saying that the security certificate used by wikipedia library in relation to these collections is not safe. Is it a real issue or just a false flag by the antivirus? Can I safely go on? Please note that not all the collections are blocked, as it's not blocked the access to the homepage of the Library.Friniate (talk) 21:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Friniate Connections to these websites should be safe provided the web address you're connecting to looks something like https://www-jstor-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the URL is "www.jstor.org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org". The antivirus says that the name of the security certficate is not valid. The security certificate was released by OCLC TLS Issuing RSA subCA R1, from 24/05/2023 to 23/05/2024. Friniate (talk) 13:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Ancestry login issues

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T354428

Ancestry search results usually redirect to Ancestry's Customer Login page. Flod logic (talk) 16:51, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

@Flod logic Are you still seeing this issue? Another user reported it but then said it was resolved. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:41, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

It was happening more often than not over the past few days, but seems to be better as of yesterday. Thanks! Flod logic (talk) 17:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Nice to see, that I can now access Ancestry records for research, thats helpful. However I still, cant log into my wiki Ancestry (personal) account and build a tree, or access trees I previously made. We also can't submit any proposed corrections to individual records, should we find errors. As a concession, if that's what's required, even permission of creating a tree of maximum 50-100 names woud be helpful. Broichmore (talk) 17:02, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

JSTOR "archival" access

From late last year:

Thanks for flagging this, it looks like there's an archival collection that we don't have access to, and we haven't matched this up properly in EBSCO Discovery Service (the search software we use). We've updated the JSTOR description and are going to ask them if we might be able to include this content. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:57, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm still getting "Your institution does not have access to this journal article on JSTOR" errors with older material (e.g. stuff from the 1940s to 1970s, as far as the specific items I was trying to read). Examples include [1] and [2]. The thread about this got archived with the clean sweep of 2023 stuff off this page, but this one remains unresolved. Is there a Phab ticket or something to keep track of?  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  14:18, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

@SMcCandlish Apologies that there was no follow up here. I've filed T354632 to track the work on this. We're going to ask JSTOR to add these collections, but in the short term we'll see about removing them from the search indexing so there's less confusion. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

ACS Guide to Scholarly Communication

Is there any means via TWL of accessing this publication? Its main URL seems to be https://pubs.acs.org/page/acsguide (and it is no longer a paper publication; the last of those was the 2006 edition).

There doesn't seem to be an ACS entry on the main TWL page, and this work is not inside JSTOR. I'm not really sure what other TWL avenues might lead to it. I really just need a specific sectional quote from it (on punctuation of quotations; it's been claimed several times that ACS uses the same or nearly the same "logical quotation" system as Wikiepdia, and I'm trying to verify this for the w:en:Quotation marks in English article).  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  14:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

@SMcCandlish Unfortunately we don't have this anywhere else - it seems to be an ACS-specific publication not indexed elsewhere. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Okey-dokey. I asked on Facebook, and someone near me says that their local library has access to it, and also someone suggested the Libby app ("Gives you access to local libraries, if you have a library card"), probbaly US-only, though I dunno yet.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  13:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

De Standaard

I requested access to De Standaard last month and received approval on the 31st of December, but it was in my spam folder. Now I wanted to use it recently but De Standaard say on their website that the offer was valid to the 31st of December. What to do? Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 10:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

@Sjoerddebruin We're just setting up some new codes for De Standaard - we'll reassign new codes to you once we've done so :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 15:04, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Just received the updated code, it was in my spam folder once again though. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 20:51, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Suggest Page vs Phabricator

I am confused by something in the latest newsletter:

The Library Card Platform Suggest Page allows you to recommend new resources to be added to the library. You can upvote suggestions on that page to assist with prioritization. It's not been obvious where these suggestions go historically, so we're actively trying to do a better job of linking these to corresponding Phabricator tickets, where we'll post updates on our progress, so you can subscribe to tickets to learn more about how things are going with any particular organisation. Once partners become available they will also be announced in this newsletter.

I looked at each of the entries I have raised on the 'Suggest Page', there are no Phabricator tickets mentioned against any of them.

I looked on Phabricator and can see no entries for any of the suggestions I made (examples: Royal United Services Institute; RIBA Journal; The Railway Magazine), except one, PressReader, where there is a suggestion for the same site made by another editor (Phab:T351856), with no mention of my earlier suggestion.

Am I missing something? What has changed? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Thanks for the question! Adding suggestions to Phabricator takes a non-trivial amount of time so at the moment we've prioritised the suggestions which have received the most votes (~50+ for now) and seem like viable partners. We just don't have the time to action every suggestion we receive, so this also reflects our internal priorities about who we might try to contact. Since Phabricator is an open platform anyone can simply make a ticket directly on the board (as that user did) and I don't see much use in closing the ticket, which is why there are a few examples like this. Does that make sense? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Your reply makes sense, but seems to tell a different story to the newsletter text. There seems to be no link between the Suggest Page and Phabricator, nor vice versa. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Time out error for all wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org links

I seem to be running into a time out error for all of the proxied resources through TWL. Do you know if this is a common issue? -- Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 20:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@Guerillero From a quick check I can't reproduce this issue. Have you tried clearing your cookies for oclc.org? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

I've been getting this today too. My browsers (Firefox and Brave) show that Cloudflare is running a security check that does not resolve. The error message it shows is

"www.newspapers.com Checking if the site connection is secure This check is taking longer than expected. Check your Internet connection and refresh the page if the issue persists.

Ray ID: 84cb7d10db286167 Performance & security by Cloudflare" My internet connection is fine so I think something else may be going on. Let me know if I can provide more details. Jessamyn (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm getting the same error when trying to access newspapers.com through TWL (https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/). Accessing the site directly using https://www.newspapers.com/ works fine. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:30, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Other links from TWL, for example NewspaperARCHIVE.com, appear to be working fine. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm having this problem right now. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Me too with newspapers.com. Luckily I found someone else clipped what I needed for this time. Hopefully this is addressed soon. StefenTower (talk) 02:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bruce1ee, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, and StefenTower: It looks like the Newspapers.com issue should now be resolved! Please let me know if you have any further issues. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): It's working fine now from my end. Thanks for your help. —Bruce1ee^talk 11:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Works for me! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:25, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Working fine for me too. Thanks! StefenTower (talk) 15:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Not working for me. :( Magiciandude (talk) 03:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Zootaxa

I see that the Suggest Page currently has three separate proposals requesting access to Zootaxa:

• https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/#suggestion-card-129 (30 votes; as part of "Magnolia Press")
• https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/#suggestion-card-412 (14 votes)
• https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/#suggestion-card-543 (2 votes)

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:52, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I've merged the second two suggestions but I'll leave the first since it's a broader request. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

And thank you. Due to an uptick in interest, the combined level of interest is now over 50. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:17, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Access to newspapers.com through TWL

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T322916

Hello. I'm unable to access newspapers.com through TWL--just started today. Have tried Edge and Chrome, cleared history, etc. Don't know if there's an actual issue with it. This is the message: "Checking if the site connection is secure www.newspapers.com needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding. This check is taking longer than expected. Check your Internet connection and refresh the page if the issue persists." Cloudflare. Has been this way all day, and the first time I've seen this message in all the years I've been accessing. Thank you very much. Caro7200 (talk) 21:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

See Talk:The Wikipedia Library#Time out error for all wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org_links above. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

When searching for articles, I'm consistently getting the error message "Oops, we are having trouble loading results. Try again." I don't have this problem with my personal (non-TWL) Newspapers.com account. Muzilon (talk) 06:55, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

@Muzilon Please try clearing cookies for oclc.org and let me know if that fixes it. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:38, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

A new problem - I can't make any "clippings". I get a message telling me to Register or Log In. When I try logging with my personal email address, the "sign in" button is greyed out. Have tried logging out and clearing cookies. Muzilon (talk) 09:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

@Muzilon That's odd - logging in with your personal email address should work. Please try going to https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/signin/?next_url=/ and logging in and let me know if that works. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 20:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

OK, that worked after going into private browser mode, thanks. Maybe a browser issue (Firefox). Muzilon (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

...But now the problem is recurring, and private browser mode isn't working any more :( Muzilon (talk) 10:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

The Railway Magazine

There are now duplicate entries for The Railway Magazine, on the Suggest Page. Please merge them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:04, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Done Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:13, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Problem at Brill accessing their online encyclopaedias

Hi there, I am being sent to a http-style authorisation page when accessing articles at Brill. After successfully searching for an article, eg, "ecclesia et synagoga" and attempting to follow a link, eg to the Ecclesia et Synagoga article, I get an http-style authorisation page asking for a user name and password. I have tried using Safari and Brave on Mac so far, and FF on LinuxMint. The value ?rskey= changes, but the request for http-auth is consistent. I tried removing oclc.org cookies in case that helped, but without any luck.

I get the same problem accessing the Neo-Latin Encyclopaedia articles via this search. I have accessed this encyclopaedia previously without trouble.

Thus the problem seems to affect the online encyclopedias specifically, book titles are accessible. JimKillock (talk) 17:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

@JimKillock I've been largely unable to reproduce this issue unfortunately. I see it sometimes, including at the link you provided above, but I can't actually find that link at your first link, so I'm left a little confused - access still seems to mostly be working for me. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:10, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Try a search for ""ecclesia et synagoga" and then follow the search results for the encyclopaedia JimKillock (talk) 14:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

@JimKillock Clicking the first search result (the one which is "in Enzyklopädie jüdischer Geschichte und Kultur") takes me to this page which seems to be the intended destination. The issue seems to be that the URL you shared is to referenceworks, but I can't reproduce getting a search result to send me there. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:13, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF) That's really odd. Your link takes me to the referenceworks URL and http-login. Something to do with my account or some section of accounts?

Here's two possible ways forward: (1) Is it possible to see what is happening in the logs for my account, or switch logging on for it so we can see; and (2) if not, could I nominate a second WP account for access? I have an account I have used for some limited second reading proofing on Latin Wikisource, where I returned to the pages after 12-24 months and gave them a second proof. Trying with a second account might also give some clues as to reproducability. JimKillock (talk) 12:28, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@JimKillock One quick thing to test is could you clear cookies for oclc.org? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Sure. I did this at the start :) And by using four different browsers which wouldn't have contained cookies! But happy to give it another go. JimKillock (talk) 21:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

well it is working now! Ours not to reason why I guess! JimKillock (talk) 21:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Very odd. Please let me know if the issue reoccurs :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia Library: Can't access {Banned from ru.wiki}

Hello, i would like to access Wikipedia Library but i cannot as i am banned from the russian Wikipedia, as my name contains "oppio" and i guess they do not like it. I would like to note that i am from Italy, i speak Italian and English, and i can't comprehend anything in Russian. I never even made an edit on that wiki!

Rather than that I am not banned nor had any problems on any other wiki, i would like to use the Wiki Library for a page i am developing.

Would it be possible to make me access anyways this Library? Thank you in advance. :) Ashoppio (talk) 00:26, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

@Ashoppio No problem! I've added an exemption to your account so you should now be able to access the library. You may need to log out and back in for this to take effect. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

The Oxford English Dictionary (OED)

Is the OED part of the Wikipedia Library collection? Is there away we can access the OED through Wikipedia? If not I would propose that it be added to the collection. I know it may sound like a hard sell but for a free, community-based, collaboratively edited English language encyclopedia, a good, comprehensive, well sourced and well dated dictionary is of the essence.

I know there are a lot of free access English dictionaries out there but 1. They are slowly going away (Oxford Dictionaries and Macmillan both ended their free access, although some, not all, content of Oxford Dictionaries can still be accessed via Google, and other free dictionaries might disappear too in the future) 2. They are lacking. This may take a lot of time to explain but as someone who studied linguistics in university I could point to a lot of shortfalls of free online dictionaries including even the best ones like Merriam Webster and Cambridge. I can't remember how many times I have been frustrated by their lack of accuracy or comprehensiveness. Pomodecon (talk) 20:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Free contents - OA resources in the Wikipedia Library ?

Hi! It intrigues me that while the free encyclopedia offers its contributors a wide selection of commercial resources (great!) I can not see many free information resources in the library (DOAJ, DOAB, BASE, CORE, etc.). OpenEdition is there, O.K. Is that because those free resources are ubiquitous, and they are free anyway? Is it because the underlying discovery system searches in some of those? Yes, good reasons. But. I would prefer to proselytize the use of free resources. Somehow the commercial companies are always there to advertise their goods, and even professional librarians tend to use those, over the free. In the field of academic publications OA is already wide-spread. Visible for the big search engines, but still invisible in many other ways. Can we do better? Andrasholl (talk) 14:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

@Andrasholl Thanks for your comments. We agree in general that OA should be promoted and encouraged for use by Wikimedians. The search system does already index BASE, CORE, and others - as you suggest, so OA results will be surfaced through general searches. The reason that we haven't included OA resources in the library as prominent collections is one of scope. It would require additional product work to figure out how and where to add these resources in the library (e.g. alongside paywalled content or in another view), and how to decide which collections to include - there's an almost infinite number of websites which could be in scope, so we'd need to draw a line somewhere, and I'm not sure what the best answer is there. I made some notes at T326812 about one potential approach. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Andrasholl (talk) 13:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Unable to access UK Who's Who

Is this still available? I'm getting a not found error at https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/76 Piecesofuk (talk) 06:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

@Piecesofuk No longer available, unfortunately. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Newspapers.com acts like normal website, proxy does not have an effect

I have been trying to access newspapers.com for a bit now, but the proxy is not working properly and instead restricts the content to a premium account, just like on the regular newspapers.com.

Tanline666 (talk) 21:29, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

@Tanline666 Could you provide me with some example URLs where you have been unable to access content? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Same problem for me too. The entire proxy has lost Publisher Extra access. For example, https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/image/874667972/?match=1&terms=mariah, https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/image/130781451/?match=1&terms=mariah. In addition, we never had access to The Lima News pages for some reason even before this. Heartfox (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Newspapers.com changed their search interface so it might have messed things up. Heartfox (talk) 16:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Same thing here. Was able to access yesterday, no longer able to today. Acebulf (talk) 22:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

We're aware of an ongoing issue where some Publisher Extra content isn't available - we're working with Newspapers.com to track down the issue. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I cleared cookies for the proxy and it works fine for me now. Heartfox (talk) 18:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm seconding this solution, I had the same issue for the past week or so and clearing the associated cookies (specifically wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org and oclc.org) worked like a charm. NGPezz (talk) 02:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Cant get access to the library

So I can't get access to the library due to me being banned on the Arabic Wiki. I have never used the arabic wiki, from a rough google translate. I think i'm banned due to user name. However I can not find what criteria makes my username invalid nor can I find how to be unblocked on there. I dont speak arabic and don't plan on editing that wiki. What can I do? OlifanofmrTennant (talk) 19:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

To request access while you are blocked on projects you may apply for manual approval by contacting TWL. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Problems with Brill

I can't access any publications on Brill's site anymore via the library - I essentially get the same options as while browsing their site without being logged in. No similar problems occur with any other publishers, so should I assume access has expired? It would be a shame. HaniwaEnthusiast (talk) 12:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

This works for me, but this does not. Srnec (talk) 00:39, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

I have the exact same issue. Ali Khomami P (talk) 15:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I am experiencing the same problem. Antiquistik (talk) 15:29, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Ditto. Brill Primary Sources in particular seems to show no access anymore. What's up? I found it very, very useful, and am disappointed it seems to have suddenly stopped — would be nice to know what the "schedule" is for these things, if there is one. Was just using it a few weeks ago. NuclearSecrets (talk) 20:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Problems with Newspapers.com

I can't access Newspapers.com right now. I am able to log in to my own account, but I can't access non-clipped newspapers. I tried logging out of the Wikipedia Library and Newspapers.com and re-logging into both of them, but it did not work. RoundSquare (talk) 19:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Problem solved. I looked earlier on the talk page, cleared my cookies, and the site is working properly again. RoundSquare (talk) 20:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Haaretz should be removed from the bundle

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Task T367864

Haaretz English does not provide Wikipedia Library users with more access than can be obtained by members of the general public. I raised the issue enwiki over a month ago(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:The_Wikipedia_Library#Haaretz_English), and more recently via email, and received not even a single response. Thus I have to assume that this is a feature and not a bug. By not providing Library users access, their listing on the Wikipedia Library Bundle page is a form of advertising and it needs to stop. If they are willing to provide access, fine. Remove them from the bundle until it actually happens. Coretheapple (talk) 15:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Sheesh, I feel like I'm talking to myself.

Further troubleshooting indicates that English Haaretz does indeed provide access, but only to articles of a few days age or more. It's not clear what the cutoff is or if some older articles are not available. Obviously even some access is better than nothing, but it might be helpful if the description of English Haaretz indicate that access is provided to some articles. Coretheapple (talk) 18:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

This seems to be an issue with the proxy configuration and we are working with Haaretz on fixing this. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Haaretz Hebrew is 404 through the library

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Task T367864

I'm not sure that it's exactly the same problem that User:Coretheapple experiences, so I'll mention it separately.

I'm trying to access articles on the Hebrew Haaretz website. The main page opens correctly. When I click on an article, it initially appears, but after a few seconds, the page changes to a page with a black background that only says "500 זה לא אתם זה אנחנו" (Hebrew: "it's not you, it's us", and "500" probably refers to the HTTP error). After a few more seconds, it shows a page with a white background, and a large image of an astronaut floating next to the numbers "404".

Several other Hebrew Wikipedians reported the same problem. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I checked and yes, I have that problem too with one article I clicked on, not with another. My problem still exists. As I said, I don't believe it is a bug. It is Haaretz using the Library interface as free advertising, drawing in editors and not providing access. Coretheapple (talk) 18:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

See previous section. Is it a question of article age in the Hebrew Haaretz as well? Coretheapple (talk) 18:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure that the date is important with Hebrew, but I do see something different now from what I described earlier. I no longer see the black screen and then the white screen. Articles appear to get loaded, but some dynamic content is not loaded. Dynamic content includes sidebars, which I can live without, but some articles also seem to have something like a "continue reading" button after a few paragraphs, but even that button doesn't get properly loaded and there's no way to read the rest of it. So something is definitely still broken. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Certainly some content is better than nothing, but the description of these two outlets should indicate that only some content is available. That would resolve the issue for me. Editors then can take what they can get and not expect everything to be available. Coretheapple (talk) 14:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

This seems to be an issue with the proxy configuration and we are working with Haaretz on fixing this. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Brill

Is the subscription to Brill defunct? There appears to be no subscribed resources. See e.g. here. A search with "subscribed resources" toggled turns up nothing. NuclearSecrets (talk) 20:53, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@NuclearSecrets Apologies for the delay in responding - this should now be resolved :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I very much appreciate the attention to this! But it still seems to be the same situation, though. If you go here you'll see there are no accessible resources. If you search for "subscribed content" in their main search portal, it says "No search results." (I have tried this on different browsers, etc.) NuclearSecrets (talk) 17:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Login error

I keep getting this message on EBSCO Host login when I try to use the library and search for resources: We are unable to validate your login credentials.

Please contact your institution for assistance. Please note, Referring URL authentication may have been prevented by antivirus or privacy control software. [Authentication Error Code 103]

I appreciate any help on this matter. Klaul (talk) 08:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

@Klaul This was a temporary issue and should now be resolved. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

No access to De Standaard

I recently requested and received access to this Dutch-language Belgian newspaper, but it seems that they no longer provide Wikipedia access since the end of 2023. I suggest to remove this free advertisement from our meta page. Lieven Smits (talk) 12:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Rock's Backpages

Hi, I am having access issues with Rock's Backpages as when I click on 'access collection', it wants me to subscribe or login in order to access their archive. My application to access their collection was approved on 5 May, but I have received no means of a login or code to use. The application status is listed as "Finalized", although I see under 'revision history' it has "Sent to partner" on 5 May, so am I waiting on RB to contact me with instructions or am I doing something wrong? Ajsmith141 (talk) 15:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ajsmith141 It looks like our access has expired - we're in contact with them to renew this. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah I see! Thanks for letting me know. Ajsmith141 (talk) 18:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ajsmith141 This should now be resolved! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks, yes it seems to be working now. Ajsmith141 (talk) 05:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Unable to access newspapers.com

I have been unable for several weeks to access content on newspapers.com through my Wikipedia Library access. After I log in via Wikipedia Library at https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/, the site seems like it does not recognize the login and asks me to begin a free trial. Mehendri Solon (talk) 23:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Is this a known issue? Is there something I'm doing wrong? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Mehendri Solon (talk) 15:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Clearing your browser cookies should do the trick. I had the same issue. If you want to be selective about it, I think it was just the wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org and oclc.org cookies that need to be cleared. Search above for the solution given by NGPezz to the same issue. RecycledPixels (talk) 17:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi again, thanks for the advice. I tried it but it did not work. Instead, the newspapers.com page refuses to load at all, and gives me the error "wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org refused to connect." My access to https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/ does work, though. Mehendri Solon (talk) 22:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

It appears that TWL is not working at the moment. Please see the section below this one (#TWL outage?). Alalch E. (talk) 00:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I see - thanks! Mehendri Solon (talk) 03:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

TWL outage?

Unable to access any of Brill, De Gruyter, Cambridge University Press, Jstor, Project Muse, Oxford Academic. Quit trying after those. Folly Mox (talk) 17:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Also unable to access anything. "ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED". Alalch E. (talk) 17:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

While trying Springer: no connection to wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org--Avron (talk) 18:14, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I have the same problem :( פעמי-עליון (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm having the same problem as well. Gottagotospace (talk) 02:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Checking in to report the same problem. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 04:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I too am having the same problem. Ambrosia10 (talk) 05:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Also unable to access any journals CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Having the same problem, I tried using a VPN to see if it had anything to do with my IP but then I finally checked over here. First discovered the issue with Taylor and Francis. Salmoonlight (talk) 06:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

It's working again! פעמי-עליון (talk) 11:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Possible error

First, I apologize if my English is not perfect. I don't talk so well this language. Second, the important part: Recently, when I was contributing in the Spanish Wikipedia, I received a notification telling that now I'm able to access the colections in the library, but I only have got 450 contributions (in Spanish Wikipedia), and not 500 like it's needed. I didn't ask for the access. Is this an error? What happened? Waiting an answer,

Gepetto123 (talk) 18:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Gepetto123, your English is well understood :)

It is indeed weird, since you have only 476 global edits. Maybe you have been active in projects like Translatewiki.net? פעמי-עליון (talk) 19:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I think I don't, but I don't know what's Translatewiki.net. Is it the beta function to translate easier Wikipedia article's? Gepetto123 (talk) 19:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Well, I can't detect how did you get access to the library... Translatewiki.net is not for tranlation of articles but for translation of the interface of wikipedia פעמי-עליון (talk) 20:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

In that case, definitively I haven't been active in Translatewiki.net Gepetto123 (talk) 21:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

I have been using the wikipedia library for a couple months now without any issues. However today I noticed that any time I try to access a collection i get a page saying:

This site can’t be reached

wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org refused to connect.

Try:

Checking the connection

Checking the proxy and the firewall

ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

I know this is usually a network inssue but I've tried reseting my chrome settings, using an alternative browser, using my phone, restarting my laptop, disconnecting and reconnecting to my wifi, troubleshooting my network settings, disabbling all firewalls (I don't have any extra security on my laptop asides from Windows defender), clearing browser cache, flushing DNS cache, and changing my DNS server but nothing worked. I also had the same issue when using data and not the internet on my phone. I understand this isn't a tech support forum but I'm at a complete loss as to what to do. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

EDIT: I now see that this is currently an ongoing issue. I did not see that topic when I last checked a few hours ago, my apologies. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T365553

I have created a Phabricator task for this. Best, --Sandro Halank (WMDE) (talk) 06:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath This issue should now be resolved - I appear to be able to access content again, please let me know if you're seeing any different. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

It's working for me as well! CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 02:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

ScienceDirect time limited into the past

For my literature researches I often need access to the papers on ScienceDirect.com, especially "Icarus" or "Planetary and Space Science". While writing my most recent articles, at least about ten times I came across the situation that I needed to have access to important "Icarus" articles older than about 30 years (I cannot say more exactly where the limit is). Unfortunately, these are not accessible for the Wikipedia Library. Could you please check the possibility to extend the time limit for "Icarus" (and related papers) articles further into the past? Best regards, Ayyur (talk) 09:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

We are following up with this partner. We will keep you posted as soon as we have a response from them! Best, Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Ayyur. Could you share the link to the articles you mentioned? It would help Elsevier locate the issue. Thanks. VSj (WMF) (talk) 11:25, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for investigating this issue. I did not keep record of every individual case, but I tried to look up some examples for you. Here are the links to a couple of them:

• https://www-sciencedirect-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/science/article/abs/pii/0019103575900214
• https://www-sciencedirect-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/science/article/abs/pii/001910358490099X
• https://www-sciencedirect-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/science/article/abs/pii/001910359290195D
• https://www-sciencedirect-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/science/article/abs/pii/0019103579900319
• https://www-sciencedirect-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/science/article/abs/pii/0019103589901863

I hope this might help. Best regards, --Ayyur (talk) 11:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, this is helpful. I have reached out to Elsevier and they are looking into it. I hope these collections will be available to us shortly. VSj (WMF) (talk) 13:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Something seems to have changed in the meantime! I have access now to articles deep from the past. For example, today I could download the PDF of an old "Icarus" article from 1977, so obviously at Elsevier they could eliminate the problem (whatever it was). Thanks for your help, VSj, and best wishes to you. --Ayyur (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Last update: Everything seems to be working now in a stable way. During the last three weeks I did not encounter any problems with Elsevier. I think you can close this issue. Thanks again, --Ayyur (talk) 20:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Good to hear that, @Ayyur. Thanks for updating us. VSj (WMF) (talk) 15:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Brill subscription still not working

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Task T366427

Brill still does not provide access to any of its Primary Sources collections that it did up until a few months ago. See here for evidence of this.

In general, I don't think Brill is giving access to *any* subscribed content. If you use their search engine, and select "Subscribed Content," it returns no results:

No Search Results

You searched items for Access: Subscribed content Search level: All

No results matching your search request were found.

some observations: The only material that can be accessed on the website, as far as I can tell, is the same material that is open to non-subscribers.

If Brill is giving no more than the Open Access/free content, it should not be listed as part of the Wikipedia Library. If Wikipedia Library is paying Brill subscription fees, it should get a refund or ask them to fix this. Thank you. NuclearSecrets (talk) 16:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

some observations: I have "Uneingeschränkter Zugang Angemeldet über: Wikimedia" to this book: https://brill-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/display/title/63258 --- Reference works are accessible via https://referenceworks-brill-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/ and if I understand this correctly: https://referenceworks-brill-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/page/mrw-summary I have access ti reference works via https://brill-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/search?q1=Bengel -- Ettiwdreg (talk) 16:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Newspaper Archive Authentication Failed

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Task T349831

When trying to access Newspaper Archive I get this message:

"If you are seeing this page after clicking a link from your library or institution then there was a problem with the authentication. You can check with your host library or institution to confirm they have an active service. You can also email clientsupport@worldarchives.com to report the library or institution you are attempting to access through."

Just posting this incase it's an ongoing issue. Jimmyjrg (talk) 12:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Oxford Academic‏

I tried to access content in Oxford Academic and it was showing a paywall, anyone else has the same problem? Is there a way to solve it?

In details: after I saw I can't access Oxford Academic content, I saw some collections in the Wikipedia library site labeled "Service issue" and "Temporarily unavailable", so I reported my issue to wikipedialibrarywikimedia.org‬ when. I could access the same content via Wikipedia library a couple of days ago, and I still can access content in other collections right now so the problem is probably with the Oxford Academic site. פעמי-עליון (talk) 20:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

The conversation continued by email. It should be working now. Let us know if you experience any other issue. :) Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Trizek (WMF): Ditto. When trying to access a book via Oxford Academic, I'm getting the message "You do not currently have access to this chapter." Muzilon (talk) 00:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I personally can access Oxford Academic books right now. Did you try to access other sites via Wikipedia Library? may the problem you are having is not specifically with Oxford Academic. פעמי-עליון (talk) 11:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

TWL just helps proprietary publishers get linked-to by Wikipedia articles

Somewhere in the rah-rah text about how great the Wikipedia Library is, giving you free-free-free access to get behind some paywalls, there should be a mention about why the vendors are doing this. It isn't because they love open science. It's because anytime you improve a Wikipedia article by citing their source, that means that later readers will be clicking that citation and coming up against their paywall, and some fraction of them will waste their money paying the vendor.

The TWL pages should be clear about this -- and should encourage Wikipedia editors to cite these resources when they need to, but normally they should cite resources that an ordinary Wikipedia reader can follow for no trouble and no money.

 -- Gnuish (talk) 00:54, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Gnuish, and thank you for your question.

We are not promoting paywall contents. We are an open-access oriented movement, but we have to work sometimes with contents behind paywalls.

The Wikipedia Library is a good opportunity (and a solution) to have more users accessing these contents. Any experienced user at your wiki can be asked to check anything accessible through the Wikipedia Library. Instead of having contents locked behind a paywall, we actually have more users accessing these ressources, which improves the venerability on the contents published in Wikipedia articles.

Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Has the foundation ever considered spending it's own money to receive database access for their users w.r.t to those publishers that don't donate the access in the Publisher Donation Program? - hako9 (talk) 00:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

@Hako9, we have not considered purchasing accesses, mostly for the following reasons:

1. If we start paying some publishers, it will undermine the current partnership model we have with our existing partners. Partnerships is an opportunity too for us to let publishers know about Wikipedia's mission and ask their support. Currently, we have partnerships for over 100 content collections with partners across the world. We are trying to partner with more publishers and diversify in terms of language and region.
2. Subscriptions to these databases can be really expensive.

Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Some Haaretz articles just keep "spinning"

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Task T367864

I tried accessing this Haaretz article via the wikipedia library, but I just get a spinning wheel and never see the article.Vice regent (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

This seems to be an issue with the proxy configuration and we are working with Haaretz on fixing this. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

ProQuest searches just keep “spinning”

From the Library landing page > select ProQuest “Access database” > ProQuest loads up > type any search, such as the term “Graphene” without quotes > Graphene autocompletes > ProQuest spins forever.

This has held for me for the last 12 hours, with the term graphene as well as others. Thanks in advance, XavierItzm (talk) 18:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this. I am unable to re-produce this issue. Could you clear cookies for oclc.org and try again? I would also suggest opening this page in another browser.

If this issue persists, it would be great if you can send us an email with the URL, and a screenshot or screen recording of the error you're facing. VSj (WMF) (talk) 11:18, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you VSj. Problem workaround found. Can confirm that ProQuest works on Safari 17.5 on MacOS but not on DuckDuckGo 1.92 on MacOS. All other known Wikipedia, Wikipedia Library and WMF sites/pages appear to work fine in the DDG browser. XavierItzm (talk) 13:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Rename twl interwiki

There's currently an interwiki prefix twl: that points to The Wikipedia Library site with relatively few uses. I suggest this be renamed to something else, both because it conflicts with a Wikipedia in the Shona language and because "twl" is an ambiguous acronym. See m:Talk:Interwiki map#twl. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 18:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Pppery, thank you for the ping. We need to take a decision between the options we have (removing the shortcut while it is not used very much, or keep it as Shona Wikipedia doesn't exist). The person in charge is away for now, please be patient until they return. :) Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 13:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Springer-Nature not working

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T368865

As of the last week or so, closed access material from Springer-Nature journals no longer seems to be accessible when using the Wikipedia Library. Hemiauchenia (talk) 00:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Hemiauchenia.

Thanks for reporting this. We have emailed the partner to restore our access. VSj (WMF) (talk) 13:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Japanese newspaper archives

I am an editor on the Japanese edition of Wikipedia and the amount of poor quality, unsourced information on there is a serious issue.

This has been covered in an article in Slate (https://slate.com/technology/2021/03/japanese-wikipedia-misinformation-non-english-editions.html), which I recommend.

I believe that the best way to remedy this problem is to allow Wikipedia editors access to the archives of the major Japanese national-level newspapers (Nikkei, Asahi, Yomiuri, Mainichi, Sankei), which are either prohibitively expensive for individual subscribers or else not available to individual subscribers at all (only institutional subscribers).

If Wikipedia is serious about tackling this issue on "the most visited edition of Wikipedia after English" (see the Slate article above), please prioritize this request. Thankfully, entries for all four papers I mentioned above have been submitted now on the suggestions page. Nullibiquite (talk) 10:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nullibiquite.

Thanks for you message and sharing that article. Diversifying the language representation in the library is a priority for us and I have noted down the newspapers you suggested.

As you may already know, building partnerships with these organisations take a considerable amount of time. I appreciate your patience on this matter. VSj (WMF) (talk) 15:18, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

A problem with Wiley

For some reason I am not able to access content of Kirk-Othmer Encyclopedia of Chemical Technology, Ullmann'S Encyclopedia of Industrial Chemistry or The Encyclopedia of Polymer Science and Technology. It worked fine on monday the 15th when I last tried it. Nitraus (talk) 11:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

And what is even weirder is that trying to access the page [3] redirects me to here instead. I have no idea what's going on. --Nitraus (talk) 11:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

And now it works as intended, and you can mostly ignore these messages. But I'm gonna stand by my claim that there was some kind of issue that seems to have get fixed by itself. --Nitraus (talk) 11:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I can confirm the problems with the access to Wiley Online Library. When trying this Wikimedia login link, one is instead directed to the run-of-the-mill "Login/Register" homepage, where nothing is freely accessible. For example, when subsequently trying to navigate to this document page, no PDF download is possible without institutional login. Could you please try to achieve a permanent Wikimedia access to the Wiley pages? Best regards, --Ayyur (talk) 20:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Update: Login is still not possible, but Wiley has added the following information on top of the login page: We are aware of an issue impacting some readers trying to access content via their library’s proxy service. We are working to resolve this as soon as possible and apologize for any inconvenience. So there is hope... ;-) Cheers, --Ayyur (talk) 09:20, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi!

Yes, this seems to be a problem at their and we should have a fix soon. Perhaps we can wait for some time and if this doesn't improve, we can write to Wiley. Thanks! VSj (WMF) (talk) 15:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Update: The notice about the "Issue" has meanwhile been removed from top of the Wiley page. I tried to access some articles and it is now possible. So it seems that the problem has been solved. I will keep an eye on it occasionally. Best regards, --Ayyur (talk) 11:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

MathSciNet

Is MathSciNet included in the library. I have tried to log in to it with the library and did not suseed. Thanks a lot. Aizenr (talk) 01:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

It's not listed as one of the default "My Collections," or the "Available Collections," which you can request access to. -- Zanimum (talk) 00:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Mohr Siebeck - e-books not accessible

Mohr Siebeck's e-books are no longer accessible (UTC 2024-08-06T11:08:56+00:00). A few days ago, access was still largely possible. Ettiwdreg (talk) 11:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Which database did you access them through previously? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

De Gruyter

Search works, but when clicking on found item only response on any of the listed results is "Max challenge attempts exceeded. Please refresh the page to try again!" Oclc cookies have been cleared, but result is the same. Anyone else having this issue? SusunW (talk) 16:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC) (please ping me)

@SusunW: I have exactly the same issue, and I wanted to write about this. But you were first. Anyone else? Some solutions?--Nous (talk) 06:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@SusunW and Nous: This seems to be working for me as intended. Are you still seeing this problem? If so could you share some URLs for me to test reproducing it? Thanks! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF):Yes, I still have this problem. Test link for you: [4]--Nous (talk) 10:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Nous, thanks for posting. That rules out that it is a "Mexico thing", unless you are in Mexico too. Samwalton9 (WMF) Still happening to me too. This is where I get the message; This is the search. Doesn't matter which result you select from the search, result is the same. SusunW (talk) 13:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah yes, I'm seeing the same issue here. I've contacted De Gruyter about the issue and filed T372402 to track progress. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@SusunW and Nous: I have been told that "as of tomorrow you should no longer get this error." I received that message yesterday, so I'll check later today to see if this is resolved - I still get the same error at the moment. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Samwalton9 (WMF). As of now, I am still getting that error, but hopefully it will be fixed by later today. SusunW (talk) 13:44, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok, now it works for me. Thank you SusunW for posting. Thank you for your work Samwalton9 (WMF). Have a nice day, both of you:)--Nous (talk) 08:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Excellent :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:31, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Works for me too. Thank you both. SusunW (talk) 13:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Newspapers.com search

Anybody else having a problem with searches on Newspapers.com? I can browse issues but when I try searching, all I get is a red box that says, "There was a problem loading the search results. Please try again. If the problem persists, please contact us.". I've tried in private browser sessions and on different computers. RecycledPixels (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@RecycledPixels: For the ongoing Newspaper.com access issues, have a look at Phabricator task T322916. —Bruce1ee^talk 07:23, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

@RecycledPixels Please see my announcement below. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 16:08, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Automated message that I am eligible for the Library, but then - I am not eligible, after all

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T354117

I used to have access to the Wikipedia Library years ago (since year 2017, methinks).

Today I have received automated message in Polish (which I am backtranslating to English): "Congratulations! You are now eligible to use the Wikipedia Library. Click here to browse a wide collection of free, authoritative sources". Yet upon clicking thru to relog to WMFLabs servER (using the WP token as authentication, I presume) I have seen the following message that conflicts with the initial notification about my access: "Sorry, your Wikipedia account doesn’t currently qualify to access The Wikipedia Library: 500+ edits, 6+ months editing, 10+ edits in the last month, No active blocks. It looks like you have an active block on your account. If you meet the other criteria you may still be permitted access to the library - please contact us.".

Which I am doing hereby. Indeed, I have had a block on enwiki for some years (mostly due to interactions with these guy(s), who have since been blocked as sockpuppets, simplifying it and condensing it a lot), but after one (admittedly: feeble and non-standard) unblock attempt, I had given up on UTRS-ing etc. it back, as I have been mostly active on the Polish and some Japanese or Chinese or French wikis, Wiktionaries etc. since then, see my Global.

Thus I am contacting yous as per link quoted above, to (re)gain my access to the Library or to discuss it further. (For transparency's sake and for similar operational reasons, I prefer to do also this in the open and not by email.) Zezen (talk) 12:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

The people that can actually process your manual approval are best reached by email, you should email them and possibly leave a link to this discussion. We can look in to the bug about getting that notice when you are not eligible. Can you be specific about where the notice was delivered? (Was it in echo notifications, a popup, an edit, an email, etc) — xaosflux ^Talk 13:30, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

1. It was an Alert aka Notification; at a local wiki equivalent of this, now still visible only at the GUI of the qualifying wiki - I guess, due to the user (re)tripping the "500+ edits, 6+ months editing, 10+ edits in the last month" local condition.
2. I shall wait some days or weeks, before emailing anybody, as per above.

Zezen (talk) 21:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, see not below on the notification. As far as contact, your choice of course - especially if there is no urgency in your request. — xaosflux ^Talk 23:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

• The notification part seems to be known bug phab:T354117 - has been on the backlog for a while. — xaosflux ^Talk 23:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

@Zezen I've added an exemption to your account so you should now be able to access the library. You may need to log out and back in for this to take effect. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

That works fine! I have just tested it (upon relogging). Thank you. As a present for the Wiki community: two new articles that I have just rescued from scratch today with lots of such references, ready to transplant to enwiki (I cannot do so, as per above):

Anchutka (a Slavic trickster demon)

Itzcuintlipotzotli (a Mexican cryptid that may have actually existed, after all) Zezen (talk) 11:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Advertisement of user script in newsletter

It strikes me as a little irresponsible for WMF to recommend a script written by, and hosted in the userspace of, a volunteer in a newsletter without any warnings about the risks inherent to importing a non-permalink, user-hosted script. I suggest you add some kind of disclaimer and tone down the recommendation. Nardog (talk) 16:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

@Nikkimaria and Samwalton9 (WMF): Nardog (talk) 19:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Nardog Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this - do you have any suggestions for the disclaimer or guidance you think we should add? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:55, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

If there is a team that wants to maintain this, it could be gadgetized, with directions given on how to load said gadget. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Definitely remove Feel free to install this script and try it out! or replace it with something like You may install this script and try it out.

And then something like Neither the Wikimedia Library team nor the Wikimedia Foundation are responsible for the script. It may stop working at any moment due to upstream software changes. Importing a remote script in the manner described above is susceptible to malicious code injection if the host account is compromised. Nardog (talk) 16:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks - added a note. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, but please mark it for translation ASAP. Nardog (talk) 02:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

A dedicated VPN?

My university library used to issue VPN credentials. That way, if the university provided access to a resource, my request would be automatically rewritten through a EZproxy. It was very convenient because I could browse the web without worrying about gaining access at all. Does something like it exist for the Wikipedia library? Amayorov (talk) 18:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Amayorov The Wikipedia Library integrates EZProxy, which you can access by logging in to the library and clicking 'Access Collection' next to any of the publishers. This simply uses your Wikipedia credentials, rather than issuing new login details. Does that answer your question? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

I understand. But I still have to log in to access each collection individually. Sometimes, I've got to search for the work I'm interested in again. Sometimes, URLs need manual rewriting. With a dedicated VPN, it's much simpler: once you're connected, it's like browsing the web from a physical library.

If it doesn't exist, it's not a big deal, just a suggestion for improvement. Amayorov (talk) 14:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

@Amayorov Ah I misunderstood - I see what you mean now. Unfortunately we don't provide this service and I think it would take some effort to do so. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Newspapers.com access is being restored!

TL;DR: To regain access to Newspapers.com please go to https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/26/ and click Apply. Access requests will be processed and sent to Newspapers.com over the coming weeks.

Newspapers.com have agreed to move back to our old method of granting access, whereby users must first register at Newspapers.com, then apply via The Wikipedia Library, and then accounts are upgraded to a subscribing one by Newspapers.com. We have updated Newspapers.com to accept applications in the library, so you can apply now! This change is unfortunately mutually exclusive with the limited proxy-based access working, so any of the technical workarounds that have been discussed here should no longer work, along with any proxy-based access to Newspapers.com. I hope you agree that this brief bump will be worth it in the long run. As a reminder, this change means that you will need to renew your access on a yearly basis. If you have an email configured in The Wikipedia Library you should receive an email a few weeks before this expiry to remind you to submit an extension request, but brief yearly loss of access may be a side effect of this access method. The good news is that this access method means that you shouldn't encounter any technical problems besides normal operational problems on Newspapers.com's end, which should be few and resolved quickly - otherwise the website should work just as if you were a normal customer.

We are planning to directly notify all users who have used Newspapers.com via the proxy over the past year separately to this announcement.

Thanks may be directed towards @VSj (WMF), who has been working tirelessly to find a way forward with Newspapers.com :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 16:08, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

This is such great news! I applied for access but also realized I had other "expired" access from before so I wasn't sure whether to renew or re-apply and I did both. Hope that is okay. Thank you everyone. Jessamyn (talk) 18:10, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@VSj (WMF): Thank you for the good news! Anyway, I now am able to log back onto my Newspapers.com account, but my account is still basic and not subscriber extra like it was before. What steps should I take to see if I can get back subscriber extra, if it is still available? Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 04:03, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

NVM. I have it now. Thank you! WhisperToMe (talk) 03:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

I applied for permission to Newspapers.com, but there is no Publisher Extra

As the title. Wwpmoe～ (talk) 03:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Wwpmoe～ Your account is unlikely to have been upgraded at all yet, as applications were only sent over to Newspapers.com yesterday. Please give it a few days and try again :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Reference to TWL

I don't exactly know how to "fill in" the {{cite ...}} template, when using TWL.

For instance: in w:en:Karl Marx: The Story of His Life, in the section on "Reception" I made a reference to the review in Books Abroad by A.K. (1936). I used as value for "url-access" subscription. But I actually did not subscribe, I used TWL. Is it useful to create a special value for that? Or what? Thanks for helping, --Dick Bos (talk) 10:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Dick Bos There's no need to include any special citations referencing The Wikipedia Library - feel free to just follow the usual citation guidelines and include bibliographic information about the source that you used. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF). Thanks for your quick response. I understand that there is no special need to mention TWL, but I do think that it might be a good way to promote TWL (and to thank the publishers that make their info available for TWL as well, by the way). But perhaps TWL does not need it, or even does not want to be mentioned, this way. --Dick Bos (talk) 13:12, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

The massive newspaper archive Trove in Australia has a "cite this on Wikipedia" took which winds up including the citation in the normal way but also appends a via notation at the end. You can check this article and drop down to the references and see the "via National Library of Australia" notation at the end of some of the refs. Perhaps something like that might be what you're looking for? Jessamyn (talk) 17:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

How and where do I apply (to ScienceDirect)?

I wanted to check this reference

Boehm, H.P; Setton, R; Stumpp, E (1986). "Nomenclature and terminology of graphite intercalation compounds". Carbon 24 (2): 241–245. doi:10.1016/0008-6223(86)90126-0. 

and remembered reading about this fine Wikipedia Library initiative. Wikimedialibrary.wmflabs.org knows about me; if I click [Start new application] I can browse partners, go to Science Direct and find the paper; but I can't download, I can't login with my e-mail, and if I name-drop "Wikimedia Foundation" ScienceDirect says

We cannot find a way to give you access via:
Wikimedia Foundation

What am I missing? Thanks! (This isn't urgent, I "found another way.") -- skierpage (talk) 23:12, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Skierpage Unfortunately it looks like we don't have that specific paper in the collection of content we have access to via Science Direct. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:32, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Oxford Research Encyclopedias

Oxford Research Encyclopedias are listed as a collection I have access to, and when I access them it recognises me as "Signed in as: The Wikipedia Library" but I no longer seem to have any access to any of the material they host. It was working last week, and I can access things through the various other Oxford University Press collections (e.g. Oxford Academic, Oxford Bibliographies). Does TWL no longer provide access to this? Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 18:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

The Wiley collection seems unavailable

While connecting to Wiley, the wikipedia access is not recognized and the articles stay unavailable. Is there an explainantion ?Anonyme973 (talk) 12:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

There is currently a "service issue" with Wiley. See task T376807 —Bruce1ee^talk 13:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

How to access my recently-approved newspapers.com account?

My access was approved the tenth, but I don't see it in My Collections. So how do I access it now? Thank you so much for your time! ~~ Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 23:05, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

@Oona Wikiwalker You will receive followup communication once Newspapers.com have been able to set your account up :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:16, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

But I already have a free account there. I submitted the email address of that account in my application. Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 11:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@Oona Wikiwalker That's right, but we need to wait for Newspapers.com to upgrade that account to one which has access to content. The approval you received an email about was just our team saying "Yes, this person should get an account", but then we send those details over to Newspapers.com to do the actual account configuration. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:51, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

I really appreciate your efforts and your patience with my questions. I know this is more work for you and for them. Thank you! Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 02:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Access problem with Loeb

It gives:

403 Forbidden Request forbidden by administrative rules. Spiros71 (talk) 15:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)